I used Snapdragon X Elite for a week. This Happened

[@XX-ri1me]

There has to be a "When will Linux run" comment, so here it is

[@LivingLinux]

Ubuntu has an experimental image for Dell, Asus and Lenovo Snapdragon X Elite laptops. Some things still need a new kernel to get working.

[@mbk0mbk]

@@LivingLinux wait doesn't Linux supported arm64 architecture long time ? How is this not done yet ?

[@akshaysrivastavaofficial]

@@mbk0mbk Probably the Desktop Environments does not support ARM as of now. I know the Linux kernel does support arm.

[@examen1996]

@@akshaysrivastavaofficial Not really, it's the kernel modules/drivers that need some attention. Desktop environment have not problem with arm

[@LivingLinux]

@@mbk0mbk arm64 support is only the CPU. The Snapdragon chip also has a GPU, NPU and some other parts. And a laptop also needs support for wireless (Wifi/BT), USB ports, power management, etc.

[@IAmAfgath]

Thanks a lot for making all these dev oriented laptop reviews... Dev tools can be tricky and it's great to have someone fighting the ARM issues now so in the future I don't have to haha

[@lil-skeleton]

It usually better if the sponsor in the video in no way associated with the content in the video. It will give more validity to your view on the product

[@AZisk]

Usually, yes. But I took this one because I actually believe in it.

[@404willum]

@@AZisk isn’t there a legal requirement to adequately disclose whether a video is a sponsorship?

[@kaltimoktober]

@@404willumhe did at the very beginning ???

[@404willum]

@@kaltimoktoberthey sent me this LAPTOP :O VS I am being paid money to create a video on this product

[@frankwong9486]

People on internet : If media say something is nice , he must be paid for doing that If media say something is bad, he must be paid by a competitor of that brand If media not reviewing or commend ,he must be paid by not telling anything to public Reality : many honest media was starving and difficult to get any nice paid and brands selected media to review / support Guys , please be nice to rare media which still operate at 2024 , they are already got annoyed by PR/marketing person who doesn't know how tech works

[@voxtelnismo]

Dude you’re filming and editing game is on point.

[@voxtelnismo]

Your

[@AZisk]

Thanks! That's a lot of work!

[@PaperBoat.]

Thanks for confirming about the sponsorship.

[@GreenElectricEarth]

Hi from Portugal here! Hope you liked the stay an enjoyed Pastel de Nata with a real expresso.

[@tiscover]

That's some solid Drum & Bass mixing skills...

[@AZisk]

dnb is probably some of the easiest things to mix

[@weynnetarranza7304]

@@AZisk Hi! Is the djay pro you used are running natively and using npu on xelite or just you use emulation on this application? i really want to know. thanks!

[@AZisk]

@@weynnetarranza7304djay pro runs natively

[@matthewblott]

Rocking that drum n bass Alex 👊

[@kallaway1]

I've actually found that Snapdragon laptops have the most insane sales going on, so I got my Snapdragon laptop for significantly less than an x86 equivalent. Been loving it.

[@Lee.S321]

I think a lot of people have bought a SD laptop & returned it (for various reasons). I bought one of these Dell XPS 13s & initially loved it, but with a number of critical programmes I rely on not only not having an ARM version, but not even being able to run through X86 emulation, made it a deal breaker (& I wasn't prepared to wait out & hope one day they'd all be supported). A real shame, because I loved the laptop, but couldn't sink that much money into a laptop not knowing if i'd be able to use it long term.

[@Unizuka]

@@Lee.S321 can you please tell us which apps didn't work? it might help me decide to buy or to go with lunar lake when their price comes down, thank you

[@Lee.S321]

@@Unizuka Off the top of my head (if I were at home I could probably list more) Macrium Reflect doesn't work at all (I use it for full system backup & SSD cloning), Google Drive desktop, I think Malwarebytes didn't work (anti-malware/virus software), & Steam games in general (even a 10 year old game like GTA V ran like a dog, but i've been told some older AAA games can run well but you need to spend time finding the correct drivers & software for this to happen. Don't even think games like Cyberpunk 2077 will run particularly well). I really wanted to go all in on Windows on ARM but just can't for now. I'm now considering buying the Intel (Lunar Lake) Dell XPS 13 9350 so there are no compatibility issues at all.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Sure, this is why this video even exists, they still need to do markrting to sell their laptops.. what is actually means they failed to sell the imagined (and also manufactured) amount at release, they still failes to sell it after the discounted price.. so they pay again for video content creators to concience the viewers to "please buy our product".. But after AMD Strix point and Intel Arrow lake release, we have less reason to jump into the unknown, and pray for everything, please let me find a compatible or native version for this program.. because on the old x86 (Strix Point/Arrow lake) there are zero compatibility issue, and also better gaming performances (if that is also a requirements for you).

[@aelaan12]

I am enjoying your LLM experiments. Running an SL7 here and have a large gaming rig for my language model, it is pretty amazing. Thanks for all your experiments and easy to follow guides.

[@deepankarsharma642]

Love your content. Thanks for including things devs care about and testing battery life in a rigorous way.

[@loodwich]

For the sun, you were in Portugal/Spain... but the people are friendly and quiet... so you are in Portugal.

[@TheOnlyGuyWhoPlaysMCPE]

He actually said the country name

[@softwareengineeringwithkoushik]

We need these kind of videos dude !!!

[@akin242002]

Great video for programmers using a Snapdragon X Elite laptop. The apps & software maybe limited to use, but for the ones you can use seem to run great.

[@MiguelMoleiro]

You’re in Portugal 🇵🇹 my home! Run from the food, pastries and wine 😂 Bem-vindo amigo 💪

[@misteryu6819]

Sponsored aside, the problem with Windows on ARM (at least for the current generation), is the Intel Lunar lake is out, it's as efficient (if not better), it's running on x86, probably holds the value better than the ARMs. There's little motivation to go ARM on Windows right now.

[@AZisk]

video coming shortly on that

[@Unizuka]

@@AZisk this week?

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

Yeah, Lunar Lake seems great. Perhaps good enough to ditch dGPU finally (at least pretty close).

[@emanks1094]

always doing a good work, very informative thanks Alex!

[@AZisk]

My pleasure!

[@M1710]

You should have showed the last graph compared to Core Ultra 7 series 200 instead of the previous series from Intel. Other than that I like your video, because I can see myself going on trips like that soon as well but with my newly bought Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Aura Edition. I can for the first time go on a trip with an ultra-thin laptop without feeling down on performance and battery at the same time.

[@alexcastas8405]

Best reviews Alex!! I’m super torn now with all the products coming out, i really like the new core ultras for what I do being mostly MS, but, now way I want to use that with recall spywear. I’m not keen on a snap yet, need certain things to work, but great they are forcing a reaction from the big boys. Waiting to see what apple pops up with, might be an M4 with parallels is the solution.

[@px6497]

Thank you for adjusting the youtube play button. It has been driving me nits for months on end

[@PizzaSlinga]

Ayy finally someone talking about workflows i care about in new laptops

[@angrysob7962]

The opening shots of you in that particular airport gave me PTSD. I travel through there quite a lot and my last experience there was HORRID. As always, great stuff, Alex. I hope the adoption of the Arm standard comes to Windows a lot faster than it did to Mac. Four years later, I'm STILL waiting for a couple of my dev tools to be updated. And I think I read somewhere that Apple won't support running apps through Rosetta forever.

[@JCJW101]

@@angrysob7962 There is ZERO chance it was happen quicker on Windows. The Windows eco system is so embedded in enterprises on such a wide basis that we'll be looking at a 10-15 year migration window at best and more like a 20 year one.

[@migueljardim8177]

Personally, I prefer the Surface Laptop 7 more, but the XPS 13 is pretty good too!

[@jollojakar8995]

Couldn't live with that keyboard, but it looks super slick.

[@MMC-carl]

Hey alex, really love your videos. I have an idea for a future vid, instead of buying a powerful laptop build a powerful desktop and use a cheaper and/or weaker laptop with decent screen, touchpad etc to remote access it using parsec. Anyways thanks😊

[@hnasheralneam]

I've used Asahi linux for a bit, and while a lot of popular open source apps have arm builds some, especially proprietary apps like slack and discord, don't. At the moment, it's still much more comfortable staying on x86 and knowing that everything that can work will.

[@dpereirafaro]

I hope you enjoyed your stay in Portugal :)

[@AZisk]

I did!

[@ecosaviors]

i think the x elite is a best choice because the battery life is great and if you travel a lot the x elite is a plus and because of the portability of the laptop and the battery i think it is a great laptop for traveling long distances

[@L1ckdiznuts]

3:58 truck 👍

[@egorgavriushkin9230]

The DJ part is amazing

[@Gome.o]

I'll be honest, I liked this video for your sick DJ skills more than anything else hahaha

[@AZisk]

It was just a little warmup before the real beats drop! 🎧

[@Executor009]

If the software you need for work has an ARM version then these lasting batteries are game changers.

[@Lemonhandle]

Pastel de nata, nice! I recognise those little guys. Awesome vid as always 🪩🕺

[@thenetworkmystery]

Looks like Portugal to me, given the country code and signs, etc. Been there a few times myself, I love it!

[@dazman88]

My respect for you once I saw you mix DNB 📈📈📈

[@mptcz]

Great Video. Alex, what about cloud GPU rental. Is it worth it for folks looking to mess around with LLMs but don't want the upfront cost of 4090's or other serious GPU's?

[@nikitf7777]

No way we've got Alex DJ-ing before GTA 6

[@MrFBChat]

Dell XPS 13 is the only one that offers 64 GB RAM, so it's a win in my book for a dev machine.. please try it with Docker for Desktop and Kubernetes.. usually the CPU is exhausted before the RAM 😜

[@TheWWWyrm]

8:01 that shot is gold

[@RikuLeppanen]

Beautuful Lisbon. Would love to go there again.

[@dtesta]

He adjusted the KZbin button!!! I can't believe it! Hallelujah, praise the lord! Finally I can sleep without nightmares...

[@AZisk]

🙏

[@carlosgouveia]

Welcome to Portugal 👊

[@JohnWilliams-gy5yc]

Thank you ARM. You are generous enough to save x86 by suing Qualcomm.

[@ashwinjadhav818]

Portugal (guessed from the things written, i definitely did not read the comments 😅)

[@johnadams6249]

He’s going on a trip with a new mobile chipset, zooming through programs. Little Alex.

[@PentagonalAntiprism]

14" macbook pro is heavy, the 16" one is ridiculously such... coming from a X1 carbon at 1.2 kg I feel the 14" macbook pro but do love all the benefits, they beat the extra weight!

[@alexmsmartins]

Bem vindo a Portugal, Alex.

[@Mahesha999]

I know youtubers are mostly behind money, increasing views become more important than actual quality. So, I don't happen to attach much feelings to them. But this man deserves my love !

[@FlorinArjocu]

I do want to see the same test with the Lunar Lake version. It should last more or less the same, but without the compatibility inconveniences, with a wqy better GPU and it should also be better with that LLM activity.

[@Hyp3rSon1X]

Mwahahahah FINALLY! I have the WHOLE COMMENT SECTION FOR MYSELF! I hereby crown myself KING of this comment section! Bow to me peasants!

[@AZisk]

You always have the comment section! Go crazy!

[@arhumaalhor6152]

Intel Lunar Lake is out there , some people tested the battery life and performance and it has an impressive results. We wait you to test it out, i believe you will do it better than anyone 💗

[@AZisk]

testing it now

[@TalynOne]

I've already read Lunar Lake still has problems coming out of standby, waking up with dead batteries and hotter than the sun.

[@fallinginthed33p]

​@@TalynOneTypical Intel problems all over again.

[@sandeepb1204]

We git DJ Ziskind before GTA 6

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

Alex, got x elite Lenovo yoga 13. Love it!!!!😢Intel, bye bye🎉

[@Dmytro-d1m]

Welcome in Lisboa!😊

[@prezlamen]

Portugal has very recognizable architecture it is easy to guess.

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

It's nice but I like a bigger screen or it feels like you're using handcuffs coming off a 5 screen desktop setup.

[@AZisk]

It was an adjustment haha

[@OstageUk]

Snapdragon is the laptop I always wanted and the laptop that is supposed to be.

[@jperih]

Can you build x64 docker containers? Eg, on an Apple Silicon Mac machine, your docker containers can be made to THINK they are x64, but compilation inside issues exceptions regarding binary format. I’m looking at you, Dart.

[@sasmitha8446]

Hi! I'm a guitarist with a SP11 with the Snapdragon X Plus, but I'm yet to find an audio driver that works properly. What driver do you use?

[@igormel0]

Welcome to 🇵🇹

[@MarioCRO]

Nice laptop... Dell and Microsoft are the only vendors I would buy if buying x86/arm64 laptop other than Macbook...

[@peterzosiak7110]

Yeah, it is everything very nice, but there is still lack of support from VPN software (Fortinet for example, not able to even install) and it is showstopper for most of the people who works in corporate world. As well Virtualisation is far behind (no VirtualBox and VMWare support) and it will take years to catch up x86

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

I am looking towards Windows laptops as they have become so good with battery life. Both the X Elite and Lunar Lake get good scores with battery. I saw a comment on Lenovo’s website from a customer who bought one of their latest laptops. It said that program efficiency isnt good. The Windows version of Spotify ate up all the RAM and brought down the power from 10 hrs to 3. Is this something you are aware of? Are other programs also more power hungry than say on a mac? No laptop reviewer i’ve seen on youtube has commented on this How is it on the X Elite?

[@nomad4x]

I would like to see Alex do some of those sorts of test! that would be a deal killer for me if that proves to be the case!

[@davidneale530]

The Spotify comment must have been a troll, or their system was messed up. I have a Yoga Slim 7x and also a Surface Pro 11 with X Plus. Spotify works perfectly and has been a native ARM64 app for years now. I don't like Apple so can't compare but the Snapdragon Windows machines are amazingly efficient, the battery lasts and they barely get even warm in regular use.

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

@@davidneale530 thank you for clarifying. So according to the reviews the lunar lake chip is as efficient as the snapdragon, but the snapdragon seems more efficient with the multi-core tests. The added bonus with the intel chip is everything being compatible with x86. I am also happy that Apple isnt the only one with efficient computers these days. I feel like I get more for my money with a new windows laptop. Almost too good to be true when I look at the specs. Ah you have the Slim X, I love the keyboard on that one and the others like it. Sublime! So you have both an intel version and snapdragon. Ok so the Slim x isnt Lunar Lake, but do you think your snapdragon would be more efficient than the Lunar Lake chipP They seem close.

[@davidneale530]

@@RobertLindberg-cv3vj The Yoga Slim 7x is an X Elite and the Surface Pro 11 is the X Plus, both Snapdragon and Windows on ARM. I knew I would be fine for compatability because I had in the past a Surface Pro X and so I knew just what I was getting. I do also have an Intel laptop and desktops so again the compatability isn't an issue for me personally. From what I've seen, Lunar Lake is not going to compile code as fast as the Snapdragon and to be honest I'm just bored of Intel and x86. ARM just seems more interesting. Only you know your real use cases.

[@konstantinossampsakisbakop6025]

Could you make a video about the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 X-Elite variant. It's the only one so far you havent reviewd and it would mean a lot (battery tests etc)

[@oshinvats7304]

Portugal right? Guessed in 30 seconds when I saw the houses

[@MichelMemeteau]

Now we want the same with Ubuntu Linux , x64 transition layer is already ready

[@donmcarthur9041]

I LOL'd at the DJ scene. Thanks!

[@alexanderzikal7244]

Very nice Information, Thank You! Until now I am using an Apple m1 16GB, 1. series of 2020. this machine is cheaper?!

[@cimota72]

That scrubbing of the 4K video was a little janky surely? Just before you scrolled the interface. I mean I suppose it scrubs....

[@aaaaanh]

every time I want to try a (new) laptop out on a trip, I always have my workstation at home online and connected to my VPN to remote in and do work if the darn laptop can't do something I need 😵

[@shellzrl4179]

I thought you were in Spaaaain, so cloose!

[@IslamMdTanvirul]

the language of the sign shown in the video on 1:09 min was portuguese.... So, perhaps you're in Portugal.

[@joaomoreira1450]

You are in my country. PORTUGAL!

[@AZisk]

nice country

[@larsfio]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but you mentioned that the LLM didn't run on the GPU, can't you run the LLM on the NPU? I thought running thinks like LLM's locally was one of the reasons why they always promote the NPU.

[@AZisk]

the underlying libraries need to target the specific npu in order to do that. but the user facing software isn’t using those libraries yet

[@dezejongeman]

The xps with Intel is more expensive. Release in Europe is today or tomorrow, but can be ordered. Same setup is about 200 euros more expensive

[@peteblazar5515]

An ARM CPUs in a laptop reminds me days of x86 CPUs in mobile phones.

[@carlhicks3491]

Don't think I realized that Alex lived in DC

[@thosko98]

Personally I'd wait a few years until more software has been ported, and there's Linux support.

[@sativagirl1885]

don't leave your camera at cafe! can you do *more or less the same* workload with a Qualcomm Snapdragon gen3ish phone with wireless earbuds, keyboard and mouse?

[@y2an]

So the reason you drew comparisons with a larger screen older processor variant of the M-series MacBook Pro is… ?

[@LucianoEvaristoGuerche]

At first, thought your here in Brazil because of the Portuguese writings on the walls.

[@lightningdev1]

I'd love to have one of these machines, but sadly it's not possible financially

[@jean-philippe7268]

Woaah what did i just see at 0:18

[@ГеоргиЧалъков-щ1р]

What quant did you use for llama 8b and how many tokens per sec did it get. Can you make more videos ruining bigger models like llama 70b on consumer hardware.

[@boghy24]

Does battery life matter? Where in the world would i need a laptop that doesn't have a plug? If you go camping you take a tablet for movies because laptop is too heavy to carry up the mountain and in the city you can plug in everywhere.

[@real_andrii]

Are there still issues with VPN software? That is a dealbreaker for a lot of businesses.

[@mediocreape]

i really hope arm takes off, i watched Qualcomm's event today, the next generation chips are even more powerful and power efficient.

[@vascocarvalho186]

Hope you like the pastel de nata. now I need to get one for me

[@aytviewer2421]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that Android Studio is not compatible with an Arm Laptop? I wonder what architecture most Android devices run on.

[@mohamedtaher88]

Ok lets talk about the real challenges. Installing a windows copy . Testing AI features. To be honest I had very bad experience with Asus S15. The ARM looks promising but the devices and the OS itself is still too immature

[@advaitBA]

1:17 Techlinked!!

[@remigoldbach9608]

Man of culture

[@dzzjj]

Portugal! Now let's talk prizes...

[@gorudonu]

I happy that qualcomm sponsors the video but.... make linux support

[@EduAzevedo82]

That’s definitely my country 🎉🎉 Portugallll

[@yadindominguez1027]

Sadly, this is not the best exponent among laptops with a Snapdragon chip, i mean as a whole. i think that of all the ones i've seen you do reviews on, the ones that come out best are the Surface and the Samsung, i repeat, as a package of laptop features + the new ARM Snapdragon chip. What do you think, Alex? Do you really have a favorite that you would recommend over the rest of the others you've tried?

[@AZisk]

The Samsung is the only one with the top consumer sku. For that alone, I would consider getting it. Otherwise, I prefer the Surface

[@andyH_England]

I have tried them all, and the Surface Laptop 7 (15-inch) is the best. If you want to max out your laptop, the best value is the Yoga Slim X. The worst was the Galaxy Book4 Edge, although its ridiculous launch price is now much lower. However, I dislike its low-travel keyboard and cheap trackpad and am not a fan of the numpad. The HP Omnibook would have been the worst, but I got a new one for half price, and at the right price, I can forgive it.

[@AZisk]

Book4 came out at $1800 here, which was a lot, but they “gave” you a free TV with it, which made it seem like you’re getting an amazing laptop and a free TV, but really it was just a plain laptop (albeit with the best X Elite chip), and they charged extra to subsidize the TV.

[@abulka]

Nice to see the DJ side of you. 🎶

[@Rusty01]

ngl, the xps 13 is the most beautiful laptop on the market (even though they made some bad keyboard design choices, its still the most beautiful)

[@AZisk]

Keys aren't the best, but overall build is pretty good.

[@Unizuka]

if only their keyboard wasn't like that, that laptop would've been amazing.

[@Fakeman]

Software compatibility with existing apps is bad. The GPU is not good. Intel and AMD are catching up in terms of battery life. Plus you need a specific device tree for linux support unlike x86 (assuming you are even allowed to install it). This "arm revolution" in windows has been hyped time and time again, and every time it has been a fail. Only this time it is less of a fail vs before. May be the next time they try push ARM it will work out

[@AZisk]

it won’t happen unless people make it happen, this is true

[@Andre.A.C.Oliveira]

You're in Portugal!? Be careful with "pasteis de nata" they can be more addictive than some illegal substances :)

[@AZisk]

very careful indeed:)

[@vin.k.k]

Select Vulkan in LM Studio otherwise it defaults to CPU.