I Was DOUBLE DENIED for a Citi Credit Card! (Don’t Make This MISTAKE…)

[@MarkReese]

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[@jimmyjames6492]

Double denial definitely stinks! Glad you were able to get the CC via product change. Thanks for the info + video!

[@MarkReese]

It does, but yes, happy to have the card again now that I'm flying AA a lot more & can use their clubs 👊

[@ahnonamos]

I appreciate you doing these application videos. The past four cards I received, I carefully watched your videos first. Thank you!

[@MarkReese]

Glad you like them & find value in them! Congrats on your approvals 💯

[@floridaproductions]

OK we will try again, thank you for the information.Good luck !

[@MarkReese]

💯👍

[@MarkReese]

In the end, I did a product change from my AAdvantage MileUp card (with no bonus) 😬

[@mistaskidda]

Mad lad!

[@MasonsTurtle]

Oh dang. You really wanted that card huh.

[@MarkReese]

@@mistaskidda😂🤙

[@MarkReese]

@@MasonsTurtle- Yep 😬 I even told myself I'd get it again once an elevated offer came around. Well, it came around, but I simply couldn't get it haha.

[@MarkReese]

@@MrBankRelations- They sure are! Used to take forever in the past (weeks!), but lately I've been pleasantly surprised. Way faster now & zero hassle.

[@pachabee]

Thank you for this advice! I will keep an eye on all of this while applying for their cards, even though I don't have one yet. Goal is to get 3.

[@MarkReese]

👍👍

[@MilesSpearman]

Mark you are honestly the best, i always look forward to hearing your stories and the credit cards that you apply for and why you do it. I am happy that you were able to transfer for your card even though you weren’t able to get the bonus

[@MarkReese]

Thanks Miles! Glad the sharing of personal experiences is helpful!

[@Leoprieto74]

You still my hero Mark. Btw, I remember you had this beautiful card a few years ago.

[@MarkReese]

Indeed! I've had the card twice in the past 👍 I tend to pick up the card whenever I'm flying AA frequently, since nowadays that's a requirement to use their club network. In the end I did a product change, so I've got it again!

[@PatrickDKing]

I've pretty much given up on Citi, I find them rather annoying. I had gotten the too low balance nonsense as well a while back.

[@MarkReese]

😬

[@ethanrini813]

Another tip, Citi will not approve you if you have 0 balances on your cards, I know this when I got denied the first time for the Custom Cash at the beginning of the year.

[@MarkReese]

Was that based on your experience, or also confirmed by a bunch of other data points from other people? Did Citi confirm the reason?

[@ethanrini813]

Based on my experience, and what I researched, Citi does not like it when your revolving balances are too low. Even non citi accounts apply.

[@nubianpwr]

Very instructive & informative Mark - thanks for sharing👍🏾

[@MarkReese]

👍👍

[@nelsdawgy]

Of all the videos on CC's I love yours the best! Keep it up. Liked and subscribed!

[@MarkReese]

Glad you like them & thank you! 🥇

[@DJOctober]

I applied for a Citi card with all three credit bureaus locked and they only wanted me to lift my Equifax! For reference, I live in Oklahoma. I hope this DP is helpful for someone! Congrats on the product change! Love your content - Ivan

[@MarkReese]

Legit! Clearly, Citi pulls different bureaus based on location 👍 Totally jealous of that EQ pull (haven't gotten one of those in forever)!

[@AM-nm1oe]

Same thing happened to me mark. Applied last month for citi premier and got instantly denied. Reconsideration line said I have to wait until mailed letter (no email). Then weird denial reasons in the letter and when I call recon line they instantly denied me with no reason or and not even giving any opportunity to change their mind. /'

[@MarkReese]

Such a bummer 😐

[@reyy292]

Saludos, brother desde Puerto Rico 🇵🇷

[@MarkReese]

A ti desde los EEUU! 🇺🇸

[@CreepahKillahRSA]

I figured we’d hear about you applying for this card. It’s a shame you weren’t able to get it. I would have enjoyed hearing your opinion on the Admirals Club membership.

[@MarkReese]

I got it anyway via product change 😁 (MileUp > Executive). I've had the Executive before in past years when I used Admirals Clubs very frequently. I'm a big fan of the AA club network for (a) lack of overcrowding (b) more quiet / business environment (c) relaxing (d) being productive. Historically, they've been awful for food (they're known for cheese cubes and veggie sticks w/ hummus 😂 But now this should be changing as AA is rolling out a new club design w/ elevated food offerings.

[@drrob001]

I had the AA Executive card but downgraded. Couldn’t justify the annual fee and their lounges aren’t the best

[@MarkReese]

All depends on how much you use the lounges & how much you enjoy the experience when using them 😁

[@davidprasad65]

Wow. I am planning to apply for this credit card but I don’t want to call them. Anyway Awesome information. Thanks!🙏

[@mathewmclean9128]

Wow! I never thought I would see that happen... You getting denied for a card that I just got approved for? Wow! I thought it would have been the opposite LOL. When I got approved for the card, I was absolutely shocked as I was expecting to be denied.

[@MarkReese]

Welcome to the credit card game! 😂 Congrats on your approval!

[@SmoothMoneyMoves]

Same thing happened to me when i applied for a personal elevated offer on the Citi platinum aa card. Tempted to apply for the business version but i doubt they will approve me. When i called the reconsideration they were strict and rude. Basically like did you read the letter? The ketter is the reason have a nice day good bye.

[@MarkReese]

Always frustrating to get a denial 😬 What were the reasons on your letter?

[@SmoothMoneyMoves]

@@MarkReese same as yours. Except what was odd was that their was a different score used. Something like from 1-9900 and I had a 9025 and was denied. 8 inquiries on Experian and 6 new cards in 12 months. Experian score was not listed on the letter but was 747 in the app. I have yet to be approved by a single Citi card. Tried last year with 2 inquires and no new cards in 48 months and still denied for custom cash.

[@MarkReese]

@@SmoothMoneyMoves - Sounds like that's their internal scoring system. Frustrating.

[@TheCreditFrog]

My takeaway from this is that you never win with Citi. Thanks for sharing Mark! Sorry you got denied 😢

[@MarkReese]

Well...I've won on 7 other occasions with Citi, so I wouldn't say never 😬

[@urosorlovic86]

That is not true. He just has too many new accounts in a short period of time.

[@CryptoXmen]

@@urosorlovic86that’s a lie, I have tons of opened account recently and Citi approved me

[@itsagreatday9765]

Good video. Btw I love the Citi Premier. Such an underrated card

[@MarkReese]

Thanks! Glad ya like it! A strong earner card for sure.

[@jerryi8241]

Great Video. Is there an easy way to confirm my utilization prior to applying for a CITI card? Also, if denied do they keep the application open for a few months and you can have it reviewed again, or must you reapply with another hard pull?

[@MarkReese]

I just look at my current reported utilization per card / across all cards via Credit Karma. Not sure if Citi keeps their applications open.

[@ToadsandTurbines]

Wish I had seen this video before applying with Citi and getting my excellent FICO score dinged. I think Citi only wants customers who they think cannot pay.

[@PaulHobus]

I think the number one issue you’re running into is the recent accounts and inquiries. Citi is very sensitive to those and having more than 0 or 1 of either within the last 6 months is a huge no go for them. I just experienced this myself and am going to wait another month before reapplying so my accounts and inquiries age out a bit

[@MarkReese]

I think you're right. However, I'd disagree on saying even 1 inquiry or recently opened account in the past 6 months is a "huge no go for them." Of the 7 Citi cards I've gotten over the years, a number of them were obtained with higher numbers than that. I've seen data points on both sides, so I cannot say how often or how strictly they enforce this kind of "rule."

[@mrkitty5581]

Not true. I had 6 INQ and 6/24 when I was approved for the CitiBusiness card a few weeks ago.

[@lunatick555]

@@mrkitty5581key word. Business. That’s why. Business credit card donot check your personal credit.

[@vigi401]

Thanks for making this video, great info. I've had 1 citi card open for the last four years. Also I am guilty of minimum spend on it. Few charges every month or 2 to keep it active. Iam curious on the new citi cards mentioned and also watching the Marriott and MGM partnership. See if it's a good time to jump on one of the Marriott cards.

[@MarkReese]

👍👍

[@ayamaikarim]

How old was your newest card when you applied.

[@MarkReese]

1 month.

[@ayamaikarim]

I do have same issue as you do, many open accounts & inquiries, my newest card is 5 months old, doing my best not to apply for any card till May, have no Chase cards & far way over 5/24.

[@kaw1980q]

i have 7 pulls on my Experian report. i have their double cash and custom card which i use All the time. . i applied for the premier card and was approved for $20k. if I did not use their cards on a regular basis I probably would have been the declined

[@MarkReese]

Thanks for sharing your data point!

[@khanscombe619]

Great Input. I've been monitoring that. However, I don't have any reported installment loans. & I'm not buying a car. What else can. I purchase that way that reports as such?

[@MarkReese]

Not worth taking on any debt to get a credit card. It's not a requirement for approval anyway.

[@Creditkae]

I got the business card aa card

[@MarkReese]

Congrats! ✈️

[@drewbny78]

i got denied for citi simplicity with good credit etc

[@MarkReese]

Frustrating 😕

[@stephenbrown2845]

Hey Mark, I had gotten approved. Citi said my Experian score was 726 and I had 23 inquires prior to the application. I also have 3 personal and 1 business card with Citibank. Maybe my datapoints would intrigue you lol.

[@MarkReese]

Congrats! 💯 Thank you for sharing your data point 👊

[@SleepCycle1]

23 inquiries? Like hard inquiries within 2 years? Brother.

[@stephenbrown2845]

@@SleepCycle1 yeah I went hard last year with apps. Most of them will drop off by the end of the year and the middle of next year. Then I should be in good graces with Chase.

[@rambosidi7634]

Yep

[@MarkReese]

😬

[@kevinManhattan]

Sorry this happened Mark. You win a lot. You lose some. Just the name of the game. I have Citi double cash, Custom Cash, Premier and AA Business card. I applied about 6 month to a year apart between those cards. (Because I was busy applying Amex and others) And I put a lot of spend on them, especially the Custom Cash. Never carried a balance but I constantly spend up to the limit each month. (limits are 6k to 20k in those cards) Not only do they send me new card offer letters but they constantly ups my spending limits. So I say put some time in between applications, (Doesn't have to be as long as a year like me but 6 month or so) and put some expenses on their cards. But What Do I know. You have more cards than me! Thanks for the video!

[@MarkReese]

Congrats on your approvals & thanks for sharing your timing strategy!

[@SolidLiquidFox]

I would normally suggest lowering credit limits prior to applying to improve exposure, but lord knows their algorithms are a mystery and it probably wouldn't matter. Not to mention that, unlike Chase, Citi doesn't allow you to simply reallocate credit lines. I'm already preparing for the Strata cards. I've been gardening for a bit. I see people applying for Bilt cards with no bonuses and I'm like "what???" 😅

[@MarkReese]

Proof that generalized advice doesn't always apply! Haha I'm one of the people who got the Bilt Mastercard with no bonus 😂 Absolutely love it.

[@davew4247]

Why would they give you more cards when you already have 7 of their cards...

[@MarkReese]

Many issuers don't put a limit on the # of cards you can have. Rather, they may cap the total amount of credit extended.

[@davew4247]

@@MarkReese Oh ok...thanks for the explanation...we don't have as many options up here in Canada when it comes to credit cards...unfortunately!

[@lynettecolvin8085]

Does a mortgage count as an installment loan?

[@MarkReese]

Yes.

[@nycste1982]

How hard is it to get the custom cash card and would it make more sense to get a different card (lower or higher) up on citi then get the ccc as the second card then after a year + change the first card to a ccc? I don’t think I would ever want more than 2! :) goal would be everyday spending vs my chase ecosystem thx

[@MarkReese]

I don't have a way of knowing exactly how hard / easy it is to get the CCC. If your goal is to maximize everyday spend with up to 2 cards, then the CCC is a fantastic option 🏆

[@DB6904.]

Hi, Mark. What did you do with the hard inquiries, and how did they effect your credit score, and credit worthiness?

[@MarkReese]

1. I left the hard inquiries on my report. I do not encourage people to report them to the bureaus as 'false' simply because they got denied. 2. Didn't affect my score. Didn't affect my credit worthiness. In many cases, I don't really care about inquiries. Did you watch 12:58 in the video?

[@DB6904.]

Mark, I have a question. Do you think it'll affect me negatively if I get approved for a credit card before applying for a car loan? And since I've never had a car loan before, do you have an idea how much of a hit I'll take acquiring the loan for a car? I'm sitting around a 750 credit score.

[@MarkReese]

Potentially, yes. Getting a car loan will likely be more focused on the credit "range," (example: as long as you're between 700-740, then your APR on a car loan will be the same regardless of what the exact score is). However, a new inquiry will likely drop your score temporarily. If that drop results in falling from a higher range to a lower range, then yes, you could end up paying a higher interest rate on that car. Regardless, I'd personally avoid all credit card applications before things like auto loans, mortgages, personal loans, etc. The credit card game is secondary to financial responsibility & winning the money game overall.

[@DB6904.]

@@MarkReese hey mark I apologize for the redundancy, I think I posted this question twice. Although thank you for your response. I really appreciate it! So a lot is going on right now!! Iam considering a credit card for upcoming medical expenses. Unfortunately, it looks like we're going to be needing a vehicle loan as well. Each needs my attention around the same time. Is there a better way than another to go about both? I'm trying to gather a responsible strategy to handle both situations? Thanks again!!!

[@MarkReese]

@@DB6904. - I'll reply to the first one on the other video here...👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZfUZaKEdpZ0d6s&lc=UgxqbDqbUnelHX7f-6V4AaABAg.A69fSqM7Jg7A6CH46zx36v

[@ihechiturukanu1496]

Citi plays by their own rules i was basically denied for every card ive applied for and citi gave me a 5 digit credit limit

[@MarkReese]

😆

[@1jicks]

Citi is really sensitive right now I have been experiencing similar issues which I never have before.

[@MarkReese]

I haven't had an issue with inquiries or recently opened accounts in the past either.

[@1jicks]

@@MrBankRelations yeah with the rumors of the 2 new cards coming out. I think it’s going to be difficult approvals

[@jeromedrew]

Mark, do a credit union savings secured loan (the higher the amount the better). Pay it down 90% before it starts reporting. You’ll get that 90% back into your savings account to put back on a credit card (if that’s you funded the loan). Then call and ask to setup auto payment for next 24mos. This should eliminate your loan issue. Plenty of videos here on KZbin explaining the Navy Fed “pledge loan hack”, but it can done at all credit unions

[@MarkReese]

Thanks for the tip! However, I'll pass. No interest in opening another debt-based product when it's not a requirement for approval in the first place.

[@onecleangti]

I was approved for this card, never came after two months, so I canceled it which was like pulling teeth! The lady refused to believe I would cancel it

[@MarkReese]

Bizarre!

[@SphygmosProductions]

I just got denied for the Altitude Reserve due to high utilization. They pulled Experian so I logged on and saw my score hasn't been updated since July 23rd. Nasty little surprise.

[@larryivey8118]

US Bank is very goofy in approving applicants especially balances, new accounts and inquiries within the last year and also having a relationship with them helps greatly

[@SphygmosProductions]

@@larryivey8118 So I've heard. I did open up a savings account with them and will aim a little lower with their Cash+ card.

[@MarkReese]

Frustrating little surprise indeed haha. Yep...gotta look at the balances that have been reported...not the ones as of today.

[@frederickjonesel1942]

Does Citi approve anybody????? The denied me in October of 2022 for the Citi Premier after pulling from my Experian Credit Report....Which my "Experian Report" is pretty good & my Experian Credit Score than was a "720"

[@MarkReese]

Did you find out the reason(s) for the denial?

[@CryptoXmen]

Do you bank with Citi?

[@Northernmike100]

I actually got denied twice for a secured card with Citi. And my credit is good! 😮😂

[@shaziaijaz5863]

What is the benefit of getting this card with so high AF?

[@MarkReese]

There are many. The ones I care about are: - Admirals Club membership - Priority check-in, security, & boarding - Earning 4X miles on AA purchases

[@williamfeliciano-w7r]

Y’all heard about the god tri fecta built/curve card?

[@MarkReese]

Yep.

[@sj1547]

Capital One fucked me like this

[@MarkReese]

☹

[@ctbt1832]

It’s amazing how they had his credit score higher on the paper they sent to him. That’s how you know this whole Credit stuff need to be revamped. It’s not accurate and it’s a stupid way. that they do it

[@MarkReese]

Credit scoring is a wild game.

[@divinesovereign8080]

It’s against the law for them to deny you your own credit…

[@MarkReese]

😬

[@nicksky4642]

Of course you get denied to many inquiries . You could get 850 but inquiries will kill you. Just wait 2 year

[@MarkReese]

No need to wait 2 years.

[@CryptoXmen]

15 inquiries and I was approved for this card

[@danielcrotty8697]

Shitty Bank is very petty about too many inquiries. If you have more than 6 inquiries in 6 months, you will be denied no matter what your score and credit looks like.

[@MarkReese]

I've seen arguments on both sides, not sure what to believe. In my experience with 7 of their cards, Citi hasn't been that sensitive to inquiries. For others, the opposite seems true. That said, I plan to have a fairly clean 6 months prior to trying again with Citi 😁👍

[@danielcrotty8697]

@@MarkReese sounds like a plan! I was just denied for the regular AA Platinum for inquiries so I’m gonna probably wait a year and try again. I want that bonus! Haha

[@CryptoXmen]

@@danielcrotty8697it’s not the inquiries, I got 15 and was approved. I recommend banking with Citi and buying flights with AA. Show them you mean business and they’ll add you to the team

[@ovx23]

Woah even you have a low low credit limit on a card? 😱😱😱 i couldn't imagine you would since you talk alot about credit cards

[@MarkReese]

Yep! I've got a number of low-limit cards.

[@ovx23]

@@MrBankRelations I know I'm just surprised that he has that since he has lots of credit cards and I would imagine that he start off with more than 5k on all his cards

[@theTSAguy]

Basically you got denied because Citi knows you’re not a profitable customer.

[@MarkReese]

😂👍

[@paulstein916]

I would have approved you.

[@MarkReese]

Thank you 😄

[@Castle99]

Per your video from 18 AUG 2022 "Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (Full Review 2022)", didn't you have this card in the past ???

[@MarkReese]

I've had this card multiple times over the years.

[@Castle99]

@@MarkReese That makes sense. Wonder how much this factored into them denying you on this occasion. Cheers.

[@TheRich330]

Welcome to the garden. 😬

[@MarkReese]

Thank you 😬

[@MasonsTurtle]

Can’t trust Reddit

[@CreditOneSux]

Especially when the post is over 2 years old, but hey! I applaud Mark for giving us this data point video! Can't have too many DP's

[@MarkReese]

But I can experiment w/ reddit 😎👊

[@danniesingletary4630]

Jeffrey Reese, plain and simple. Too many inquiries!!! That's it!!!

[@MarkReese]

😬

[@marke8743]

Boycott Citi Bank. NO Digital Currency.

[@MarkReese]

What are you talking about? www.citigroup.com/global/news/press-release/2023/citi-develops-new-digital-asset-capabilities-for-institutional-clients

[@marke8743]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKO2cmCwds6UhpY

[@SpencerChewitt]

Double oof

[@MarkReese]

😬😬

[@saangtoaikaa9211]

It's a terrible card

[@MarkReese]

It's got good & bad. I'm not a fan of the overall product, but I am a big enough fan of a few select benefits for me to still get it via product change.

[@CryptoXmen]

I think it’s an incredible card but to each its own

[@berryzedzero]

Mark, I’m worried about you. Maybe you should step back and leave the game for a bit like Ben and myself did.

[@TheyMostlyComeAtNight]

Ben is not out of the credit card game. He just posted another CC video earlier today. I defy you to post any proof Ben is done with credit cards. Too bad you can't. Keep living in your delusional fantasy world.

[@berryzedzero]

@@TheyMostlyComeAtNight that’s crazy

[@TheyMostlyComeAtNight]

@@berryzedzero What, you can't back your statement up with any proof? That sure is surprising!🙄

[@berryzedzero]

@@TheyMostlyComeAtNight damn thats crazy

[@MarkReese]

I may have to do exactly that if I want the Citi Strata Elite 😬 Need to see what the card is like though.

[@Big_Jims_American_Dream]

Haters.

[@MarkReese]

😬