I Was Illegally Fired By Elon Musk For Trying to Unionize Tesla

EXCLUSIVE: Autoworker Richard Ortiz tried to organize a union at Tesla. Elon Musk's company responded by "coercively interrogating" him 3 times, then illegally firing him, federal investigators found. Ortiz is sharing his full story on camera for the first time.
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[@zzez0077]

I mean only thing that makes him different from Jeff Bezos is that he just has a bunch of fanboys to defend him

[@The_Poro_King]

Especially today

[@taxicamel]

I mean ......??????????? .

[@isaacclarke3037]

I work at Tesla Fremont factory and it sucks. 12 hr shift is no joke so I have also been taking a second lunch. You wouldn’t believe how much hate and poorly treated I was because of taking that second lunch. It’s very discouraged because they lose money every second you’re not on the line. It sucks because I love Tesla but they treat employees bad especially me because of my lunch. I denied me a third rest break because I take a second lunch saying my lunch counts as a rest break. It is very illegal what they are doing. Luckly because of me people now get their entitled breaks. Management really tries to take your breaks away so you can work more. Worst part is they are strict on sitting down they force you to stand 12 hr even if there are no cars. Avoid working here unless you want to destroy your body and be restless.

[@rat3diirushii]

Love from K shift

[@abraxasjinx5207]

What do you love about Tesla? Good on you for insisting they meet their bare minimum requirements, they absolutely will take every inch they can.

[@taxicamel]

If you don't like the company, don't work there. No one is forcing you to work there. If you can't get a job anywhere else, ....WHY? .

[@chindilindi888]

Problem with you is that you work in the company that you dont like. Who force you to work there? Shape up or ship out

[@playerzero2236]

Who put a gun to your head and said work there

[@LuisSanchez-by7mh]

Damn Tesla has a lot of negative stuff I never realized. Such as poor and incompetent management, tough working hours, and even illegally firing their employees that boils my blood.

[@theonesolrac9888]

It’s because you’re too small minded to see what’s actually going on here! Sorry for your tiny tiny brain

[@LuisSanchez-by7mh]

@@theonesolrac9888 wow calm down. I was just saying this video opened my eyes to what goes on behind the scenes. Tesla is always being talked about as a revolutionary company building the future that some people never think to question who builds the cars and if their happy working their.

[@infini.tesimo]

@@theonesolrac9888 that wasn't needed or called for at all man. Chill out.

[@Blazeww]

And Musk right there with them. And people get fired for no reason all the time. But a reason like trying to steal workers for a union that will just take thier money and cost the company more money. Guy from UAW. Already in trouble for rippin off workers but talks about Musks richer employees.

[@ricardo8268]

You need to hear both side of the story first

[@oldstatueface6317]

Shittier working conditions is one of big tech's primary "innovations." It's always good to see people fighting back.

[@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051]

What's shitty about Tesla workers condition? Despite no covid restrictions (that's fucked up)

[@supergamergrill7734]

@@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 Everything. There’s no Yellow warning signs because Elon hates yellow so there’s no sign saying don’t go over this line or this isn’t safe

[@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051]

@@supergamergrill7734 Isn't it illigal?

[@supergamergrill7734]

@@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 probably but you know the USA inspectors. They suck at their job

[@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051]

@@supergamergrill7734 That's sad

[@DenNorskeFyren]

I work at a place that is similar except no one is unionizing. Lots of us do more than one job. I in particular run a whole woodshop area by myself. I mean I am used to it and I’m only 26. All I hear from the uppers and the boss is “oh you’re a young guy you can do it” but will go home tired everyday. We had one guy way before me by himself go crazy. What I do is pretty simple I pick up lumber that weighs a good 70lbs and I cut it down to length after I cut all the parts I then rip the order to width. All by myself. I gained a hernia. Bad back and even broken several toes and fractured my ribs there. By I’m a young guy I can take it :) it does make me sad because by OSHA rules there should be 3 others in my area. Other areas there it’s different and more sad. I’m not the only one working alone is an area. I haven’t another another person in my area for more than a year. I only make $11.50 which sucks because I feel I work the hardest. I’m the first part of the job and I supply the whole shop with work.

[@leelindsay5618]

As the country unionizes again, organize a union. Together we stand, divided we fall. I once worked at a non-unionized company & they treat people like dirt (they still do). Now in my union job, if managers try to treat employees like dirt, our union steps in. Being unionized doesn't mean we don't have to work hard, but it means that if Osha says there should be 3 guys, management must resolve the issue or go to court and pay a fine for violating OSHA then put in 3 guys.

[@FollowmedowntheNumberWhole]

Get it on camera and to the right media

[@DenNorskeFyren]

@@FollowmedowntheNumberWhole I no longer work there. I now work at Dots Pretzels owned by Hershey and it’s so much easier on me and I get paid $19 an hour. My sign on bonus was great. All the workers and bosses are great. They literally don’t let us work hard at all. But no I’m glad I got away from my old job.

[@chinemeremohaeri9100]

@@DenNorskeFyren You have no idea how happy I am for you 😁. I was going to suggest you go into the CNA field I'm in. It's so easy, I do my homework there. But it looks like you're doing ok.

[@DenNorskeFyren]

@@chinemeremohaeri9100 Oh yeah I’m still doing good. I make $24/hr now. Job is easier than before. Became a lead in under a year. Learned almost everything.

[@WellActualllyyy]

so embarrassing and childish for tesla to essentially put a worker on time-out because he was trying to unionize by switching him to a part of the factory where no one else was so he would have to be all alone. is corporate management run by 12 year olds?

[@smo-king6504]

No they just don't want to pay their workers what they should get

[@bigcrazewolf]

It's beyond embarrassing and childish it's illegal and management is greedy corporatists. Elon is not our friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6GxfWqDobqjo6s

[@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605]

1900s Henry ford knew that at if he paid his employees enough money they could actually buy the cars they were building.. which started the industrial revolution Henry Ford did this.. Now they have figured out how to pay us less... And Wall Street and banks Is created this massive massive world of finance.. You want it you don't make enough you finance it...

[@BuffaloEskate]

Yes basically!!!

[@YouDontWantItWithMe]

So they should pay someone to actively undermine their business structure? Unions are not all good. And even if I agreed they should unionize. I wouldn’t expect a company to pay the people trying to force them to do something they don’t want to do. If you don’t like the company….quit. They’re not doing anything illegal. Cry me a effing river

[@chynnafong]

My boyfriend currently works for Tesla and the mental and physical toll it is taking on him breaks my heart.... I cry because I want to help but idk what to do...

[@BayMacDre415]

tell him to be grateful that he has a job, and quit whining.

[@EdithEsquivel]

Read about the fire movement

[@perryteo1406]

Er.... Ask him to leave?

[@Supe204]

@@BayMacDre415 why not tesla should be grateful to have an employee dedicating his youth for its growth ??

[@AnandTumurtogoo17]

tell him to join a union.

[@th-cc6ei]

I work for frito lay at the Kirkwood NY location in the warehouse. We routinely get forced to work overtime up to the state limit of 60 hours. If corporations had thier way they would force us to work 7 days a week 16 hours a day. Sadly most workers are indeed scared to even mention the word union. They tried to unionize years ago but one brown noser told corporate and they had a huge meeting. Everyone who signed the union cards got scared and wanted the cards back. If workers really want to make a change then stage a strike. Again though a lot of people can't afford to take the time off to do so. Self interest knows no limit. Both poor and rich people are guilty of it. I personally am trying to find another job with a smaller company so I'm not unnoticeable like at a huge corporation like frito lay. Sure I will make less money but is money really worth being treated like a slave? I used to think so but not anymore.

[@Frank72364]

2:07 That is the problem I have with Elon Musk. It is all about him. Horrible person.

[@MySensualWorld]

Musk looks like a billionaire smuck like Jeff Bezos!

[@habitsrabbit]

@@MySensualWorld well..that might be because he _is_ a billionaire smuck like Jeff Bezos

[@michalesnyder3942]

You’re absolutely wrong, and you’ll be eating those words in the years to come

[@Frank72364]

@@michalesnyder3942 You mean when Musk go to prison? I am 100% right.

[@michalesnyder3942]

He won’t be going to prison, and he’s doing more for this country than any of those workers combined oh wait they all work for him. Received $20 a day with equity……Man they really get it rough. Yikes just sounds terrible.Wish I could work for him

[@kev9617]

The worst part is there’s a generation of new workers who never experienced a union and will probably won’t due to not knowing what they’re good for

[@hithere5553]

Thankfully young workers are starting to wake up to why things are the way they are. Most people I’ve spoken to under 40 are pro union but they just don’t have the knowledge to organize.

[@themodfather9382]

What! Again!

[@michalesnyder3942]

Good.

[@michalesnyder3942]

We don’t need unions

[@iki597]

I'm 23 I've been a part of the teamsters for about 3 years now and I hate it. The leaders are ancient white men who look like they've never lifted a Dean thing in their life. The only thing theyre good for is keeping people who don't want to work from being fired. This one guy showed up drunk 4 times before he was fired and he still filed a claim with the union, not sure how it turned out though. All I can say is my experience with this union has been extremely negative and I've been forced to pick up the slack of those that don't want to work because that's what you have to do if you want to move up. So if you just want to collect a paycheck with just enough money to live and also not do anything to earn it then unions are for you.

[@vbredacted398]

You load 16 tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt

[@hellsgaming8026]

I worked in a union and the long term employees making tons of money were useless. They did nothing while bragging about the 60 bucks an hour they made. Used to say it cost the company 10 bucks for them to take a shit.

[@wokeeye6441]

@Angry Combat Wombat You're the clown if you think anyone would believe that piece of fiction.

[@wokeeye6441]

Notice: the 2 Bots "Hells gaming" and "angry wombat combat" are anti union propagandists. They have been noted.

[@wokeeye6441]

@Angry Combat Wombat Yes. Fiction aimed at reducing pro union sentiment. Fiction composed by consultants and anti union groups and posted on social media. You cannot prove it is true so you lash out.

[@wokeeye6441]

@Angry Combat Wombat The only schizo here is one who is deluded enough to believe the owner actually cares about his workers. Enjoy your 24 hour work day. Your view on labor history is topsy turvy.

[@wokeeye6441]

@Angry Combat Wombat You are the bully here. I never descended into name calling. You have a bully mentality, and that is just what the consultants are looking for when they want someone to intimidate workers. Proves my point

[@andrewd6956]

$20 an hour + equity? Surely that's what I've read about.

[@GORT70]

If what he says about the working conditions is true, it’s a sweatshop. I work 12 hr nights, 4 on 1 off. If he was a line worker, $20 is ok, not great but ok. What are the benefits? 6 days on 12’s is 72. 32 hours of overtime per week. That’s a pretty serious number of hours. The fatigue would be a safety factor….. I’ve seen both sides of the unions, and maybe they have their place. But there would be less need of unions in places that recognized the safety and well-being of their workers.

[@jpete190]

@@larrythorn6265 company’s don’t have any choice now days. Our economy has become global, we have to compete with China, Mexico and other low wage countries. If companies didn’t break the unions they couldn’t afford to keep the doors open. Unions raise cost and company’s cannot be competitive. Don’t blame the corporations, Other countries see that manufacturing raises the standard of living for its citizens so they are copying what the US has been doing for the last 75 years and creating jobs in this sector. For manufacturing companies to survive in the US they have to efficient and lean.

[@toomuchinfo6487]

@@jpete190 or we could just have the government tax companies more when they outsource their labor to 3rd world sweat shops…

[@jpete190]

@@toomuchinfo6487 I’d be down for that..!!

[@toomuchinfo6487]

@@jpete190 I’m glad, that’s really the only solution if we want to have better job conditions than 3rd world countries. It worked perfectly fine until NAFTA

[@jpete190]

@@toomuchinfo6487 I totally agree, our politicians have made to easy to the rest of the world to beat us.

[@iki597]

Good, unions are awful. You can literally curse at your manager and not get fired. You really don't even have to do any work to keep your job. If youre lazy you'll love unions but if youre a hardworker like me all you will see is the people around you getting paid the exact same as you,but only doing 25% of the work.

[@CarpeDiem23]

But on the other hand, workers wouldn't even make unions if they are paid decently for their jobs, plus working under bad conditions

[@iki597]

@@CarpeDiem23 I get that but unions aren't the answer becasue the rights unions give you are taken advantage of by all the people that just want to collect a $300 pay check every week.

[@wideyon5]

@@iki597 so what do you think the answer is? I worked in a factory for 17 years and made 17 bucks an hour. Finally got up the nerve and left that job am now working at a union job making 22 after a year and a half, top out is 30 something in another 2 and a half. Insurance sucks but no worse than what I had but 401k match is pretty decent. However I do agree with you part of my irritation with this new job is the amount of laziness I see and how I feel like because of my work ethic I get taking advantage of by my supposed “brothers” who want to sit back and do nothing and collect their top pay while I do most if not all the work for less money. Just feels like the answers in the middle but neither side wants to give anything, wish I had the answer.

[@iki597]

@@wideyon5 I think the answer is for people to strike without being under the banner of a union. There's no need to unionize if you have a backbone and are willing to compromise your own life in order to change the way the job works or you cab get a new job which is the easier and faster approach and has worked everytime in my case

[@91foxbodyplaya47]

Why ruin a perfectly good company with a union. I’d shut the doors if I was Elon and it become union...

[@gkc1936]

Excellent job Elon Musk. Unions destroy companies destroy the product and ultimately destroy jobs these workers need. Ask Ford GM and Chrysler.

[@damonirvine8910]

Capitalist bootlicker

[@reelsremotes4935]

Good stuff man 👍🏽

[@gkc1936]

@@damonirvine8910 Enjoying poverty?😂

[@Stalkergames916]

@@damonirvine8910 hewo mi nae is danone from chiwa

[@zombiestory6353]

@@damonirvine8910 sorry your poor

[@yocelynlepe3693]

Richard Ortiz is bad-ass. Hell yeah! Kudos to you, sir.

[@ArkhonXIX]

Someone give me an example where a union made a company MORE competitive in the marketplace and didn't ultimately destroy the company in the end because of unrealistic and uncompetitive demands

[@marcuskartsounis8421]

The industrial revolution as a whole so that entrepreneurs actually had people earning substantial wages to buy the shit they mass produced for the first time in history? Please read a book before you go on the internet and make yourself look stupid because you don’t understand the correlation between better wages and increased consumption.

[@cohensmith6100]

@@marcuskartsounis8421 Not all unions are good

[@ArkhonXIX]

@@marcuskartsounis8421 still waiting for an example. And I'm talking in the long run Marcus. I understand unions helped get kids out of dangerous coal mines etc etc but give me an example of a fully unionized company that exists today that doesn't deal with toxic union labor gouging. All unions are good...for their members, everyone else be damned

[@JK-gu3tl]

@@marcuskartsounis8421 Henry Ford deliberately paid his workers more to prevent unionisation.

[@JK-gu3tl]

@@ArkhonXIX Union=labor cartel

[@salvagemonster3612]

So basically Tesla didn’t want to see their plant turn into what happened to Detroit?

[@marcuskartsounis8421]

Yeah it was the greedy workers fault that NAFTA got introduced lol gtfo

[@zombiestory6353]

@@marcuskartsounis8421 at one point those workers where costing 70 dollars an hour when you add bennifits. I dont like nafta but the unions did get greedy and the cars sucked. Everybody drunk or high and thinking nothing mattered. Soon gm will be gone maybe ford will survive.

[@J.HerbosHair]

Huh the same shit happens down the road at Space X. I miss the job so much and the connections I made there for 7 years. I don't miss the conditions or the bosses who stole from Elon who bought Christmas gifts for the workers. Only to back door it for themselves. One thing I learned in life is that it always comes back around.

[@imonewithearth5697]

THE THING IS NO ONE FORCED YOU TO WORK AT TESLA.

[@tonysxDD]

Since I learned Elon was involved with amber while she was still with Jhonny Depp, and when he pushed Bitcoin inflation with his tweets just to cash in and make it drop again, i lost all fuking respect for him

[@semiloreomoyinmi6398]

Lol you had respect for snake oil sales man

[@HM-hu4hu]

He didn't "cash in".

[@EdithEsquivel]

And what about when his second wife said on camera that she felt like running away after getting married and he said: really? Being a douche brings douchy things into your life

[@mrjaimerey]

@@EdithEsquivel I need the link to this lmao

[@HM-hu4hu]

@@EdithEsquivel Yes I'm sure you are perfect human being. Never made any mistakes.

[@rocketsurgeon5758]

Remember Blair Mountain!... remember Harlan County!... General Strike!

[@alecs6492]

It wasn’t illegal to fire him.

[@BEARD3DBEANIEE]

That's just the propaganda you've been reading.

[@beijingbrandon6220]

@@fpshobbs LOL if they don't want to be unionized that's their choice, it's also their choice to fire him, get the fuck out of here.

[@filipesantos8210]

If he does not like it, we can move on to other company.

[@alvinleong269]

The middle class and working class...they form the real economy

[@Polack-ml9fh]

This guys the man! What he says at the end… “I guess I was too strong of an organizer, he thinks I’m gonna come in there and try to do it again… and I WILL, THATS EXACTLY WHAT I’M GONNA DO.” that’s the attitude of a a real union man, it’s not all about himself.

[@michalesnyder3942]

Yeah and he’s only going to make him mad. Tesla will not and I repeat will not unionize it’s unnecessary

[@hithere5553]

@@michalesnyder3942 scabs are not human and should not be interacted with as such.

[@taxicamel]

@@hithere5553 ....kettle calling the pot black. Look in a mirror. The epitome of a scab. .

[@ronaldarchibald2506]

@michale snyder then tesla Will have osha up their ass every day. Workers will get sick of injuries and sue publically. Once the fan boys see how toxic the waste is from one worn out battery the glamor of tesla will crash hard. If it is so safe. Store it in your front yard.

[@blucllrmn]

He is a pansy ass

[@CO8848_2]

You should be fired. Go find another job, making GM or something. Without government subsidy, it already went bankrupt once.

[@jonathanbatturs6359]

Its not a subsidy, Tesla is owned by the Govt. ! HOW can you give yourself a subsidy ?

[@shanelove2132]

70% of all Chevy are made outside the USA.

[@littledancingfawn]

I don’t think all companies should go Union. My ex is a union guy. He told me he’s slept on jobs just to make them last longer.

[@TiggyRolls]

Shit i'd love to get paid for a nap.

[@brentmenier3442]

Unions are not what they supposed to be

[@bg5561742]

Working for unions suck it’s nothing but a bunch of loops and lie’s

[@powerofloveism]

Tim Hortons is treating their staff like Maggot Shit , watching every inch of us on Camera right up the Crack of our Cheeks and then if we so much as complain about one single issue to management such as another employee who is not following Safe Food Handling Procedure's the one who reports it get's fired without explanation and the only thing you did was try to improve the Conditions and do right by the Public ( Customers) and suddenly you get a Termination Paper with no explanation. You call the owner to ask why you were terminated and all you get is a bunch of excuses for letting you go , rather then the person who likes sticking their hand down their pants just before handling other people's food. You try to do the right thing for people and you get fired.

[@SmokinPaul]

Unions suck the life out of companies and force them to keep the lazy, the unproductive and eliminate pay based on ability. In short unions are crippling. Tesla moves at the speed of thought. They reward those with abilities and fire those that are a detriment to the companies goals. In turn if you do a good job you will be rewarded. We now have laws protecting workers, unions are of a past that no longer exists. If you don't like working at Tesla or any place else there is nothing stopping you from leaving for better greener pastures. Go work for GM, they'll be out of business in 10 years. I'm in a union and I see its pros and cons. Pros are mostly for the lazy, the cons are for those who are truly gifted and see no reward for their efforts, getting the same pay as the slacker next to them. There is a reason Unions are dying out. Tesla employees love their jobs and are very happy with the higher pay package. What seems to not register with the pro union posters is that pay is simply not just your wage. I could get more pay at another job but I also get extremely good healthcare and a pension that thankfully is not run by our union who has a tendency of losing the pension funds of other locals. If I do a better job I get nothing for it, so I give just enough. I would take a lower wage with the ability to get a raise based on my abilities and stock in the company I work at over higher pay. If you don't have faith in the place you work then why are you working their. I don't think you'll find any Tesla workers who have a problem being wealthier from the shares of $TSLA they get in their compensation package. The Unions however are very sad they can't leach off Tesla and its employees.

[@abdmzn]

I don't give a shit about your anecdotes, 12 hours and 6 days of work are no work conditions acceptable in the 21st century.

[@cohensmith6100]

@@abdmzn They can quite, no oone if forced to work there

[@abdmzn]

@@cohensmith6100 "just quit and lose your only source of income."

[@cohensmith6100]

@@abdmzn if u work for tesla odds are you can find a new employer in a lot of places

[@abdmzn]

@@cohensmith6100 Maybe you can, or maybe you will have to wait months without a salary to find a new job, maybe you'll have to move to a different state with your family, "just quit" is not an argument.

[@dr_serious]

"Fuck Elon!" - Max Keiser

[@shyboy022]

As a dude that lives near his Fremont factory, this guy isn't lying. They work 6 days a week 12 hour days. I hear the workers would hide as elon musk walks the floors. I like his vision but not his management by any means

[@gregorioalcantara8544]

So is Jeff

[@VirtuellJo]

Elon should go to jail.

[@michalesnyder3942]

No what is wrong with you

[@tonyvalencia1495]

I worked for Tesla. It was a great experience. Let me tell you the people they hire are not the best workers nor friendly. Some employees are lazy and expect a lot from Tesla. Some employees act like the company owes them. If you don’t like your job then find a new job. For those go complain all the time if you think Tesla is bad try working in the Fields picking grapes. This people wouldn’t make it at other jobs. They want easy payday and are always looking for an opportunity to sue. A lot of Black folks working in Tesla always using the N word.

[@beijingbrandon6220]

Damn right, they should just quit if they don't like it.

[@prismbrandingrealestatebra6301]

The federal government does NOT care about these abuses. In fact the government intentionally sets the fines for breaking these laws is so low that a company could break federal labor laws hundreds of times over and the fines would not even amount to $250k. These companies would rather pay the fines than obey the law because it is cheaper to pay the fines than to have a union. It has been this way since the 1980's

[@miss1of2]

I'll NEVER but a Tesla new!! Musk already has enough money, he doesn't mine!! Keep up the good fight Mr Ortiz!!!

[@ivorjawa]

I’d never buy a Tesla used. Who knows what evil fuckery lurks in their firmware.

[@Davo198]

@Isaac Ndirangu what happened in Detroit was a result of automation and globalisation. What happened in Detroit happened despite of the unions, not because of the unions

[@hithere5553]

@Isaac Ndirangu unions take care of their own, unlike corporations.

[@michalesnyder3942]

Not with that attitude you couldn’t afford one

[@miss1of2]

@@michalesnyder3942 yes I could but that prick don't need my money!

[@mikeferguson6906]

Can’t cut it then go elsewhere. Unions ruined the auto industry. If an employer sucks then walk away. I would have fired his ass too. It’s a job not your company, never understood why a union had any right. Don’t do the job then get out.

[@wokeeye6441]

Lol propagandist.

[@wokeeye6441]

Your republican ideology is sick and counter intuitive.

[@ARandomDonut]

A union is the only thing that prevents me from having to work 12 hour shifts 6 days a week. It's fun to watch management frantically try and get you off the clock before 10 hours before doubletime starts. The weekly hour caps are the only reason I get any days off either, since if you work 56 hours a week, you also go into doubletime.

[@kassidylane]

I work at Tesla. Its awesome. Gold plated insurance costs me very little and covers a lot. Every hourly employee just received a $10/hr increase in pay since the start of 2024 to keep up with the insane cost of living increases. Also stock options and bonuses. Admittedly I work in an office, so I do not know much about the assembly line, but Tesla will pay for you to enroll in or complete college and there is plenty of upward mobility opportunities. Is excellence demanded of everyone? Yes. Is everyone in Americas workforce up to that standard, we all know the answer is no. Working at Tesla is great, because I like being surrounded by hard working, talented people.

[@MySensualWorld]

Boycott Tesla Internationally!

[@michalesnyder3942]

Absolutely not and will never happen

[@thaddeuslacroix3573]

Brave guy #standwithuaw

[@crush9197]

They really should’ve started at least 23 an hour and then add the shift difference 21 an hour for that kind of work sucks good to see other companies paying more now though

[@tomawboss7513]

Did you leave nummi or did you get let go? and if iit is better than tesla (i.e. more money) then why not go back to nummi?

[@changuito10]

I'm glad you were fired. I have yet to see a union guy that actually improves the conditions of the workers without afecting the quality of products and services. A unió ized Tesla would mean more expensive and less quality cars.

[@ZettyLad]

Yup, unions are shit

[@r3trobananas33]

so true i hate quality of life too brothers

[@goodfelloe]

You should actually work a union before you start talking about things you don’t know. Unions are absolutely garbage because the problem is now the company and your coworkers determine how many hours you work and how much money you make and you pay a monthly fee to be screwed by the corporation and your coworkers. Your coworkers are gonna look out for you or are they gonna look out for themselves???? No brainer. Unions are shit.

[@niclas3672]

Denmark. There your argument is thrown out the window. Imagine living in a country where healthcare is not a right, where you don't get a month of paid vacation and where paid maternity/paternity or sick leave isn't guaranteed for all workers. I wonder why not a single job in Denmark doesn't pay a living wage. A reaction to finding out workers are so cucked in the US i often hear is "well what do you do if you get sick". Your lack of unions and workers rights is really that absurd to the rest of the developed world.

[@niclas3672]

@@ZettyLad Your point of view is shit. Are you American? I must assume you are. There are other countries where life is much better than in yours. These countries are called the entire developed world except for the US. Look at the guaranteed benefits all workers have in other countries.

[@ARUchannel1]

He wanted a better life and what he got was kick in the butt. He was fired and any colleague backed him up

[@alvincyt]

I'm not anti-union, my job is unionized itself, but I also love the fact that people have choices in this country. There are union jobs which give you a stable income and good benefits, there are also non-union jobs which pay less hourly, and give employees a bonus at the end of the year depending on the performance of the company or the department, but you can't have it both ways. You already knew it when you joined the company, you've made your choices and if you are unhappy with it afterwards, quit and find a union job. Like Ortiz said, he previously worked for Nummi which paid him substantially better, then why didn't he stick with Nummi but instead chose to go to Tesla? It was never explained in this video.

[@startek119]

Well the NUMNI plant was bought by Tesla but I get your point. Ortiz is a crybaby who couldn’t handle the job.

[@alvincyt]

@@startek119 I see, so it proves Nummi's business model isn't as competitive as Tesla's I guess.

[@startek119]

@@alvincyt Unions usually kill companies, they don’t grow them. Tesla buying NUMMI is a great example

[@slent5346]

@@startek119 soyjack

[@startek119]

@@slent5346 No you

[@cedricbethea358]

Dude, you deserve to be fired. If you don't like their rules GTFO 😡

[@KD10Conqueror]

Damn, you are salty dude.

[@jamesdash1906]

In the corporate world you DON'T matter !!!! It's been that way for a very long time.

[@TiggyRolls]

Yes, it's damaged and needs change.

[@jimlahey8210]

Dude shot his shot missed and got fired. You bought the ticket now take the ride.

[@samdegoeij6576]

Hats of too Mr. Ortiz!! A UAW brother through and through!! I have massive respect for men like him and other people too that fight like this. Because, I'm sure they exist! Let's fight these stuck up, rich pieces of 💩!!

[@merkridge8780]

Ridiculous!

[@vidarebornlonewolf]

Unions are crap nowadays.

[@rickss69]

More likely fired because he was trying this on company time and on company property...

[@paul.facciolo6985]

Honestly if you don't like the conditions and only get paid 20 an hour just go work somewhere else.

[@valenciae271]

Don't stand in the way of progress

[@wokeeye6441]

Yes, Tesla is standing in the way of progress.

[@AnandTumurtogoo17]

I don't understand why people worship Elon Musk.

[@michalesnyder3942]

Because big brain

[@beijingbrandon6220]

@@michalesnyder3942 yes

[@mattmoore5237]

Union sucks through and through

[@serafinacosta7118]

NUMMI was a GM-Toyota joint venture in Northetn CA. So Toyota could afford union pay rates , after all. And Tesla is an Union Buster Company. I know for sure , for as long as I may care, a Tesla won’t be in my driveway.

[@earlaweese]

*BRING HIM DOWN. BRING HIM DOWN DOWN. A KING WITH NO CROWN!!!!*

[@Pinkie007]

There’s no such thing as “illegally” firing someone. There’s nothing wrong with terminating a business transaction.

[@Stargazer1312]

There is though? There are conditions under federal and state laws under which it is illegal to fire a worker. Firing an employee who had not violated company policy because they engaged in union activities is illegal in most of the country

[@Pinkie007]

@@Stargazer1312 My point is that it shouldn’t be illegal

[@themodfather9382]

@@Pinkie007 Oh. Yes, it should. Because without labor laws we'd have poor working conditions i.e. no min wage, child labor, 16 hour days, no safety, and employees firing people. You just didn't like the conclusion so you got confused while trying to figure it out in your head.

[@Pinkie007]

@@themodfather9382 You live in lalaland if you believe that.

[@michalesnyder3942]

Oh no it shouldnt be illegal….Nor is it in the state of Texas XD Thank you Texas

[@Obamaistoast2012]

I would fire him too!

[@tomawboss7513]

I hate how companies put a gun to your head and make you come to work for them.

[@mdcbert]

Good. The Unions don’t own the jobs, Elon Musk does. Don’t like it? Leave.

[@mdcbert]

@@larrythorn6265 by golly it worked for the employees at Hostess, didnt it....

[@wendyshoowaiching4161]

I will also fire you if I am the boss if you form a union to bully me. But request nicely for a worker representative so whatever your complaints were resolve with the boss.

[@GeoffreyBronson]

I like Elon's plans for Mars but HATE his plans for Earth. He doesn't treat workers right.

[@doktawhawee9870]

It's like the biggest companies make the worst crap or something...

[@jkkmane]

im all for fair pay but i want to see the other side of the story. We only hear from ex-workers. I would want to hear from a current worker before i make any judgements.

[@mamalives6938]

They taught us to call the body we come from Mother which is another way of saying material or mater. They do see us as something empty to use who come from our Mama's. It's the name of vanity against the spirit in Mama creating life with Dada.

[@AnthonyChinaski]

I wish Elon Musk would hurry up and get to Mars

[@dandwun562]

Elon is trying to make an affordable EV. You can't do that in a union shop.

[@wokeeye6441]

Affordable? You are a fool. His is a luxury car manufacturer.

[@iHustleLXXXI]

I was a part of unions in my past life. I was a postal employee and I worked for Cingular, a wireless company that had a union and I paid my dues but never got any use out of them. I got fired at Cingular for not meeting sales quota one month and I was there 3yrs and the union was there and didn’t do crap. Unions are worthless. When I was at the post office, I was a mail carrier and I sprained my ankle on the job and I got put on none paid leave and the union didn’t do crap either. Unions are useless. 100%.

[@niccolea2086]

Well you can also blame the US Congress for that. The demands the congress has put on the post office is criminal. Why are they doing it? Because it’s the largest union in the entire USA. That’s right. It’s an all out assault to break the post office.

[@niccolea2086]

That’s why you lost your job. No other company is being micro managed by the government like the USPS

[@defsownds]

I'm sorry your experience was so negative, but it doesn't define the purpose of labor unions. Working conditions would be so much worse for everyone if unions never existed.

[@galileykwong7017]

Open a Unionized Tesla's account using Elon Musk new Twitter and if he put his money where his mouth is.

[@lenalynn4978]

Solidarity!

[@DrFill-ht3eh]

Elon isn't all in for hurting his employees, he's all against what could hurt the company & unions can very easily end up hurting the company. This video isn't even fair.. there will be a lot of ignorant people supporting something they know very little about.

[@BronteBlu2]

That's the lying union for you...one sided, their side, for their benefit.

[@beijingbrandon6220]

@@BronteBlu2 Sounds a lot like Right vs the Left, and the left is always doing what the unions do, crying about others problems.

[@wokeeye6441]

Crap and nonsense. You guys are talking like 19th century factory owners. Where are your top hats and monocles? Did you forget your starched arrow collars?

[@vindifrenzy1100]

Dr. Fill not true

[@christ0431]

Everyone is disposable. Go work somewhere else if you don’t like it.

[@miyoukifhey8544]

I am looking forward when the factory in germany opens and Tesla gets a taste or german unions and labor laws :)

[@Ronrook1]

There are only three exceptions to an At Will termination. It appears that this termination doesn’t mean any of those exceptions. Employment is a contract. You come to work because you want to, and your employer lets you come to work because he has a job for you.

[@shadowbanned69]

Exactly...wining babys

[@iMatti00]

I would love to see you back in the days where you had to work at least six days a week, conditions were extremely unsafe, you lived in destitute situations, no family life, etc. And then see if you’re still seemingly praising at will employment. I would just suggest you try to use critical thinking and understand the world is full of nuance. Unions have done so much to revolutionize our ability to have families that actually have a life. More unions equals less money for the top richest of the rich. I’m fine with people being rich, but not when they’re clawing pennies from the poor.

[@jasonwoody8041]

I work in a union and i can tell you the union protects the scum bags, and good employees just pay due's for years. I have been at this place 15 years and never needed a union.

[@niccolea2086]

Not sure if you work for a good company but for the richest man in this country to pay far less, and expect far more, it’s shameful and they OBVIOUSLY need to organize. $20 an hour in this day & age in the Bay Area is ridiculous. Numi paid more 20 yrs ago. Good paying factory jobs went overseas for cheap labor and now sociopaths like Elon on trying to extract as much as he can get from hard working Americans. I say it’s time for the American ppl to organize and bring back unions. It’s time we demand better treatment and put an end to the fucking GREED. ppl who don’t fight for themselves because they don’t mind getting shit on, can ride everyone’s else’s hard work to make change. There’s a lot of ppl kissing the ass of CEO’s across this nation admiring their wealth & prestige. Lol dreamers.

[@jasonwoody8041]

@Niccole A money is not why a company does not like unions. The reason they dont like unions is because it makes it very hard or very expensive to fire bad employees. Get enough bad employees and they drag the company down. I see way to many people come to work drunk, high, late, leave early, dont show up at all, move at a snails pace, ect maybe i just got lucky but im pretty sure people know what they will be getting paid during a interview. After that its up to you to negotiate raises. Nobody forces you to work for anyone. If you are unhappy with your rate of pay simply and "honestly" ask yourselfelf. "Am i being fairly compensated for my time? Or am I limited by my skillset/education?" Im sorry but standing there and putting on nuts and bolts all day is not a hard or difficult job and does not deserve top compensation. Its not shameful for anyone to wish to keep the money they have earned. Most people have no clue what it takes to keep a company going.

[@niccolea2086]

@@jasonwoody8041 if Amazon was unionized, employees wouldn’t pee in bottles or wear diapers. The reason why employers don’t like unions is because they can’t fire them so “easily”. You forgot easily. And because they can’t force them to work longer hours for less pay, because as a group, United the workers have more bargaining powers. You see the CEOs likes holding all the power. It’s really not that complicated. I work for a company w a union and our HR hates playing the game. It’s all over their smug faces. Abusive ppl like power. But I see how your mind works. You look at the employees & employer dynamics as wanting the employer to have more control, while I see the employer as a possible abuser.

[@jasonwoody8041]

@Niccole A if you work for a union you obviously dont work for amazon. So how do you know the legitimacy of people wearing diapers and peeing in bottles? Im calling bullshit on that. Who in thier right mind would do that? People lie when the truth will do. I have listened to all the unions brainwashing tactics as well. Why should a company have to work so hard to fire someone that comes to work high and drunk? Or that feels a start time is suggestive and to show up when you feel like it?

[@jpete190]

That’s my experience as well, thank you for telling it like it is.

[@barringtonmorris90]

Union baby!!!!!

[@zee2744]

Wonder how high the dislikes are here

[@gp1449]

Why am I not surprised

[@abraxasjinx5207]

The auto manufacturer owned by the world's richest man pays $20 an hour. I've made better money waiting tables.

[@bwdelisle]

Compensation comes from stock. Not hourly wages.

[@erichicks8698]

This was very disgusting to watch and this is happening everywhere to a lot of employees working for companies. Strength in numbers that's what I say. These people care nothing about the driving force of their employees that make them rich. The employees are doing the work while management is doing the papers. SMH

[@joelhunter1199]

How about you spend $Millions only to have ungrateful losers ruin everything you’ve worked to achieve?

[@th-cc6ei]

I seriously doubt that's the reason they gave. If he has proof he's an instant millionaire.

[@sonwasup]

I agree, go find another job

[@FlixRundownOfficial]

This guy is controlling space ground and pretty much will all be slaves

[@j619killer]

Sounds like any job you go has the same issue. Underpay job,12 hour shift, that other job pays more excuses. Always pointing fingers at others. What happen to the people that were going to walk away with you.

[@valenciae271]

Actually I hope you can affect the stock price so I can buy the dip

[@auntemmyd1604]

He has no clue of what real life is! The bigger they are, the Harder they Fall! I Hope some of these big guys do fall!

[@theway77744]

Probably should have been fired. No doubt, making good money, but that wasn’t enough.

[@wokeeye6441]

The way forward us to pummel "theway77744's" thick skull into mush and push for more unionization. Vote out the republicans!!!!

[@theway77744]

@@wokeeye6441 You mean the party that fought to end slavery?????!!!!! Let me guess, you want the party that loves these gas prices, inflation and this insane rise in crime. The party that acts like a child because fewer babies will be slaughtered. The “come on in” party and now we have TWO MILLION + more illegal immigrants under sleepy Joe. The global change, climate warming scam party. 😐Unbelievable

[@mauriceharting5877]

The problem with many modern day Unions is that the work ethic and productivity of their workers goes down and the costs of companies goes up. Regarding Tesla, the company offers a great work environment with a decent salary and benefit package including stock options. These stock options will be lost when higher wage demands are demanded in a Union work environment. I think it would be best that Tesla avoids New York with its powerful Unions and move the factory south to Florida or Texas. The factory business climate in New York is terrible.

[@marieazrak1951]

Shame on you Mr. Musk

[@sarcasmmuch8905]

Getting people to walk out is utterly non union activity ,Unions don’t want walkouts,Loss of wages equals loss of union dues,Complete BS story

[@hombredeacero3131]

The only thing that unions help is the unions financially and lazy individuals whom the employers are forced to keep

[@rickeybakerbaker8915]

And now they're moving to Texas how is that helping your co-workers now