I was Right! The Honkai Star Rail Meta is Changing FAST

I was Right! The Honkai Star Rail Meta is Changing FAST!
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If you care about the meta, then you'd better pay attention! Prydwen just released their latest tier list update for Honkai Star Rail v2.3 and there were some notable changes that were not only shocking - but can present an even deeper meaning! In this video, Iyo breaks down what those deeper details could actually mean and more, regarding Honkai Star Rail's meta.
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#honkaistarrail #hoyocreators #firefly
0:00 I was Right!
2:38 Firefly (T0 ⏫)
9:08 Ruan Mei (T0 🔼)
9:53 Fu Xuan (T0.5 🔽)
12:00 Gallagher (T0.5 ⏫)
12:42 Harmony MC (T0.5 🔼)
15:35 Addressing some Previous Statements about DHIL & Seele
20:48 Hyperbreak Jing Yuan (T1)
22:35 Himeko & the Conditional Meta (T3 🔼)

[@Iyoverse]

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[@DTVenom]

The FireFly Team should be named: Breaking Bad

[@dafneecastillo7581]

I actually love that... I'm gonna change the team name to that now 😂

[@Cloutian516]

That's kinda... Fire 🔥

[@PLBiohazard]

I'm stealing that

[@1KENNY1]

Fire name me personally i like " Broken Rules "

[@yrn_serios]

I named it "breaking good"

[@wikidpsycokilla]

They should just ditch the single unit ranking and do team core ranking since so many of the ranks pretty much depend on other units being present. This would actually be helpful in deciding who to aim for if it tells you who else you need to make the team work instead of having to cross reference the tier list with the teams section of the character page.

[@arthurfl433]

Iyo got that elio script 😂

[@latitude990]

Putting RM and Firefly in the same half of the patch is so evil. Classic Hoyo gacha lesson: never ever take a break

[@dplayer2693]

Turns out, Iyo might be an emanator of finality. He's not predicting anything he's just telling us what's gonna happen.

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

Actually no because back in the 2.2 tier list he said Break Meta isn't going to be the new best and downplayed it severely A TON of people told him Super Break would be the most broken thing ever and he ignored it

[@Iyoverse]

Incorrect. I said it wasn't ready THEN, which it wasn't. And even now, the "break meta" consist of 4-6 five star "mandatory" characters for it to be "the most broken thing ever". Nobody ignored it, I just ignored any of y'all that were talking nonsense without giving me the proof I asked for. Everyone that gave me valid proof, came into the discord to speak and show me exactly what they were talking about, and then doubled down were absolutely not ignored & I've been giving them credits in the past videos since. Stop the caaaap.. lol

[@papichulo2756]

hold up….so what changed between 2.2 and 2.3 then ? you cap gang you definitely was talking about how you didn’t think Break meta would be good for what ever reason. a update comes out and you do a 180 which isn’t a problem you a Cc it’s ya job but let’s not act like we can’t literally pull the film of you saying that 🫠

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

​@@Iyoverse ​ what? Bro no? E6 harmony is free, Gallagher is 4 star and can be replaced, it's literally Only Ruan Mei that is "mandatory" in Firefly's comp And even then Harmony TB isnt even needed for Boothills best team comp bronya is Break meta has been building and build with characters like SW and Xeuyi Ruan Mei even Himeko. The building blocks where there it only needed 1 character to tie it all together (harmony mc) and then 1 dps (firefly) to take full advantage of everything that's been building

[@papichulo2756]

@@NiaTheMilkTank exactly like there isnt even 4-6 break effect 5 stars in the game so what are we even yappin about

[@MrPimentel12]

Iyo 20something days ago > “The game is not ready for break meta, we dont have the pieces for it yet, we don’t have the right supports, it’s incomplete” Iyo today (the game still has the same break supports mind you) > “I told you guys break meta was busted, what is it, the eight time in a row that I’m right?” Bruh…

[@noizelovespike]

Lost 50/50 on all the meta changing units, my account is confirmed bricked 😭💔 (love the long videos btw)

[@jilvermazariegos]

Yeah you had to save up for a while , I mean you coul reroll if it's that bad lol

[@noizelovespike]

@@jilvermazariegos not that bad honestly because I have all of the broken harmony characters except robin and a great FUA team, I just need a second dps to replace blade rn

[@UltimatePollo3495]

​@@noizelovespikeblade is getting a buff by jade though

[@kaseyatakahashi9753]

lost one 50/50 on acheron banner went for e2 s1 for a total of 250 pulls. lost 2 50/50 in ff banner went for e2 s0 as a f2p legit my worse pulls for a total of 300 pulls. Sometimes you just have to prepare to take the L. For me I skipped every sustain in game and didnt pull anyone aside from harmony units and my first dps.

[@vinhinh6810]

@@noizelovespike lmao, u have all but the best harmony for ur FUA team and the only non FUA dps that can't fully utilize most harmony buffs, certified bricked fr

[@Cuddle_with_Furina]

Damn can we get Sparkle rerun already . Also where is fucc is Yukong ?!?! Its Kaveh in Genshin all over again

[@MapleYum]

Not releasing yukong is intentional. They messed up with her e6.

[@Sntra101]

@@MapleYumwhat’s wrong wit her e6

[@ajtheult7055]

​@@Sntra101Too strong I guess

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

@@ajtheult7055 no? If her e6 was that strong she would go up significantly in the tier list. They messed up her entire kit making her near useless until the e6, thats the issue That and they're def gonna rerun her in the 2.4-2.6 block since it's xianxo

[@ajtheult7055]

@@NiaTheMilkTank Yeah that's what stopped me from building her even with E6, I can't really be bothered to put that much effort into getting a support to work effectively when there are characters like RM and Sparkle.

[@NCG420]

I just got my Firefly and her and E6 MC just kill everything and I'm still not done building Firefly, I still don't have the new 4 piece and 2 piece break sets on her and she still is just destroying everything

[@niigolover]

Same! I gave her random pieces with BE substats and she's already insane

[@thunderspark1536]

@@niigolover She's able to hit 400k even with half-decent pieces

[@SianBinay]

Firefly speed can reach to 250😮 and she deals 100k even without relics, man my full built firefly after having her relics deals 734k, BROOO!! even my acheron cant do that much on moc 12

[@ErasMcras]

Also you know he knows what he’s talking about when he recommended an ergo chair over a gaming one

[@EloyBushida]

Eh my Secrelab is more comfortable than my steelcase leap for gaming activities, but the leap is better for when I'm working at my desk. Posture is very different for each activity, prefer to lean back and put my feet up when gaming and that's way less comfy in the leap than the titan.

[@mwangwo]

gallagher is so strong it's crazy,like mine heals +3k on skill, and 1.5k with his debuff(2pc break + 2pc speed and the effect res set i have 180 break effect)

[@mwangwo]

he is e4 but i was talking about the heals at e2 at level 8

[@dino_5432]

1:12 what the sigma is on the bottom left

[@QZ-nw1ys]

💀

[@Iyoverse]

You're asking too many questions, big dawg. Pretend it doesn't exist. LOL

[@TempoKid]

@@Iyoverse now yk to check what’s in frame before you record next time 🤣

[@Iyoverse]

Nah, I left it there on purpose! Y'all just aren't supposed to be paying attention to everything in my room. lmao

[@BugCatLove]

AYO WHATS THAT LINK?

[@eduardoroman6036]

Hey iyo, if possible, i would like to hear a bit more of your opinion on what made you change your stance on the break/hyper break meta, because one of your points previously to say that the break meta wasn't ready was that break didn't had characters for support that crit based teams have and this was lne of you main points in a few of your videos but now with FF you say that you were right and predict it, what with the release of FF made you opinion chance. (Sorry if sounded rude, English isn't my first language and i really like your content).

[@eduardoroman6036]

Ps: hahahaha I saw your final statements about the top 3 dps and consequently the break stuff and I would still like to hear your opinion more on the topic but I now understand more I think. From what I understood you saying "I was right" was more in fact related to the actual power of FF and her position as a dps to possibly rival acheron than the situation of break meta itself. If I understood wrong correct me but I would still love to hear more about you opinions of honky starbucks

[@michalmedvid4859]

Where exactly are we supposed to get the last eidolon for MC? I was trying to search for answer, but didn't find anything

[@regail7143]

you get it for free in 2.3, you can just claim it

[@ffdzyy]

@@regail7143 where?

[@mattyfresh3620]

Wonderful video Iyo I really enjoyed it. Quick thought how do you feel about Hanya being paired with Firefly specifically S0? I think would solve the sp management. She gives Firefliy spd and atk boost.

[@MacTapp]

yo iyo could you make a seele guide with speed tuning and strategy when playing her w sparkle?? love your content man keep it up

[@Tam-lv1mp]

Yes please. I am itching to use my seele but can't figure out the best strategy and rotation to bring her to the next lvl

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

Would be very curious in you doing a FF vs Acheron comparison in the future as they seem to operate somewhat similar to Dan vs Seele. I’ve seen some calcs that put FF’s team ahead of the Acheron hyper one, so I’d like to see if it bears out in practice.

[@derictran9658]

yo Iyo what program did you use to write the seele retrospective it looks hella clean

[@Prahalad3362]

What are your thoughts on Jingliu tho, and her vs Seele/Dan IL? I personally think she is almost at peak operations (she cant improve anymore), but maybe in the future she might get a BiS support if they have a 100% AF like Bronya.

[@Slimebawt]

Where'd you get the kirby beanie from? I want one

[@Iyoverse]

This guy named M&J Sales on Tik Tok! He's on Twitter, Instagram, and KZbin shorts as well. If you get the Gengar/Kirby beanies though keep in mind they are significantly smaller than the other beanies (head wise). This is the link (if KZbin allows it): mnjsales.com/

[@Slimebawt]

@Iyoverse Good lookin out, thank you!!

[@Audaciter2]

You should see Seele in Apocalyptic Shadow, easiest 1.5+ mln ults of my life, with sustain. Can't wait till she's ranked 1.5/2 in there as well

[@LainBvoir]

i love destroying my sleep schedule for this dude ong

[@RaidenDisNots]

as someone with both e0s1 acheron, e2s0 firefly and e0s1 ruan mei, i see this as an absolute win

[@grammysworld5449]

As you should.. ALWAYS summon with characters that fuck with the mechanics of the game

[@MeryKeit]

living my dream right there I see

[@crimsonknightli1238]

Is the music your using in this video the home base music from scarlet nexus

[@AttackOnTuna]

It is yeah

[@Iyoverse]

Yes. 😎

[@darko6115]

7:28 the team is very good but im a curious why a whole part of rm kit just doesnt work on ff being her 3rd major trace. The be scaling to get dmg bonus is completely useless and also renders half of her skill useless. Although she is busted I do wonder if she will get replaced

[@vinhinh6810]

remember, ruan mei wasn't made for ff, she came out in 1.X where there's no break dps or SB, if her kit only focused on break at that time nobody would even care about her And without RM, ff loses like 40% dmg, unless they decides to release someone who could boost BE, BE efficiency AND spd simultaniously better than rm then I don't see her getting replaced, gallagher would be the most likely replaced, especially for e1 havers

[@JJ-mn3nd]

You should try DHIL, aventurine, sparkle, ruan mei if you haven’t already, I hit 220k normal attack and 150k ult, I did this with imaginary set, not even quantum or banditry

[@LilKilo21]

Hey @Iyoverse i dont know if you will see this, but i been watching you for almost a year now, and i still dont know your user outtro, and i have always wondered what it was

[@FerinaAryele]

I really can't use my PC without being cross legged tbh but it's so hard finding a chair that's actually comfy... like my main pc has an office chair and my legs stay on it perfectly and then at my other pc I have this really old chair with no handles and my legs stay on it nicely but I've tried replacing that old chair 3-4 times and have hated every chair I've tried that are much nicer in quality so I always go back to using the old one with rips in it lol it literally has no cushion and is very cheap but my legs stay on it without ever slipping off the front so I love it Usually my 2 biggest issues are either my feet slipping off the front of the side handles dig into your legs and I'm not really a large person it's just every chair is made different and most are only made in mind with your legs being down so it's nice you can be cross legged in that one

[@An0.nym0us]

This! omg im the same. Not even in just like pc chairs, any chair I sit, I sit cross legged. Doesnt matter if im at a fancy restaurant im taking my shoes off to sit cross legged. Im like using those standard plastic white chairs and theyre just as comfy. I also suffer from the same problems when it comes to chairs with side handles. While at first it might seem okay but overtime theyre just a pain because I cant fully spread my legs and theyre just constantly in a v shape cuz of the handles

[@FerinaAryele]

@@An0.nym0us sometimes whenever I go to visit my grandma's apartment a few weeks over the summer she has a computer chair I borrow and the side handles dig into my legs so I put 2 small pillows on each side and it makes it bearable at least. I've also put towels on each handle before but Pillows feel better imo

[@LetterSequence.]

I got Firefly, Ruan Mei, and E6 Gallagher off the banner this patch, and even with the half assed relics I have on them, it still feels like the entire game got put on easy mode. They're definitely going to add like 5 bosses to this game that turn off their weakness break bar to turn her into Fireflop.

[@grammysworld5449]

They already have the mechanic that deals with her with the shield bosses and when bosses hide the weaknesses. Increasing shield strength is probably what they'll do.. But I doubt that would come for a few months.. HSR has been kind enough to not artificially nerf units for a while

[@StigmaLotus]

Iyo on Yunli release: Counter Attack Meta is here!

[@koko-hh2bq]

Bro's gonna cook up triple counter comp with Clara, Yunli, Robin and Aventurine

[@Dragonology99]

Spot on with the Himeko analysis, whenever I feel safe enough to go sustainless I throw her in the Firefly comp over Gallagher and she SHREDS

[@Yenrei]

I think a lot of people were trying to achieve the 1 crit 1 break dual DPS comps way back in 1.0. Especially with Asta/Welt and their insane toughness reduction potential. To see everything come full circle, what with the new break core elevating old units with big toughness reduction, is pretty satisfying. Reminds me that sometimes we just gotta let Hoyo cook.

[@Yoyo-sy5kl]

There is 2 4 stars on the firefly team. 2 5 star upgrades for the future. One of them is a Superbreak specialist, the other some form of Sustain + Break.

[@oof3821]

I have both ruan mei and firefly but idk whos lc is more worth it, any suggestions?

[@aba7968]

Firefly's LC is better for her personal damage, but if you use RM in other comps then her LC might be slightly more worth it

[@UltimaBlank]

I would skip both tbh, not needed at all, save your pulls for another character. ff can use aeons, rm is fine with cogs or s5 motp (s3+ motp works, but you'll have to get hit once before ult runs out)

[@Shoujo_o]

Definitely Ruan Mei's LC. While Firefly's LC is good, there's alternatives like Fall of an Aeon or Misha LC at high superimpose. Ruan Mei's LC gives 24% dmg on ult and 10 energy every cycle. One of the most, if not the most OP LCs in the game. You can give it to Harmony MC too. If you're still unsure, this Light cone banner is the greatest light cone banner of all time. Eyes of Prey, Day One of my new life, and Memories of the Past are all great LCs. I'd pull on the banner just for those 4 stars.

[@AshBellTK]

Been working on my himeko with firefly, fire combo Iyo almost never misses! Stop doubting start listening!

[@BlastHeart96]

I wonder whenever we get a limited version of Harmony MC if we’ll basically get a more specialized Ruan Mei with Superbreak or a Nihility that specializes in Break. Not to mention a limited version of Gallagher. That’s when the team will truly ascend I feel.

[@morrowthewizard3945]

Love this whole take man haha

[@Layla-bg3rw]

To be honest you’re my favorite hsr content creator. you have saved my hsr f2p account every time. 👍🏻

[@neito_805]

There are so many T0.5 to T0 5* characters coming out that it's hard to decide who to commit to. What kept me from pulling for Firefly is the lack of new 4* characters to accompany her banner. I don't have Misha, but I already have Jingliu (and the other 2 I already have at e6). I'm curious to see with Robin out and Jade on the way, will Follow-up-attack teams be slated for the next meta shift? What's going to come after Super Break? Super FUA? Super DOT? Super shield? Crit healing? (LOL!)

[@DarkGalahad1]

I tried to get Firefly but I lost the 50/50 and now I have 0 jades left and can guarantee it at the end of the banner but looking back, I don't think I would want to spend my guaranteed on Firefly, because HS:R is not only endgame modes (I cleared full start all this year) and Acheron and Firefly added something making this game feel different. I fully expect they will release a game changing unit in 2 patches.

[@neito_805]

@@DarkGalahad1 Yeah, my roster is doing fine right now, so I'll wait for reruns and new characters

[@Smurphi314]

"Yeah, uh-huh, you know what it is, every time Iyo spit, yeah he spittin big"

[@grammysworld5449]

I dont see how her dispelling debuffs isn't seen as one of her best traits..

[@TheRealKitty103]

As someone who has both Robin Ruan Mei and Sparkle at E1S1, Mei is simply in her own league

[@alonelyqilin4613]

Honestly why the Super Break team is my favorite team archetype rn in the current meta. It feels like an actual team effort with everybody either contributing strong damage or everybody benefitting from each others' buffs, complete with consistent big numbers because Super Break is just too busted rn. It'll only get better from here when even Firefly's only team consisting of f2p characters is this strong.

[@zhoxnq6776]

the signs that break meta was coming were there since ruan mei's release tbh i'm surprised it didn't come earlier if anything else

[@saturna1576]

You could technically trace it back to Luka too

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

I dont really get the whole concept of a meta in this game, MY mono-Q team clears everything lol

[@bryanjason7202]

Super break blade is pretty good with misha lc. You can even run him crit and break.

[@lewisharvey7969]

i am so lost with my account. i dont have any special ways of doing damage, like break, dot. i regret getting boothill especially cus i dont have any good physical breakers.

[@Iyoverse]

Boothill is the physical breaker, what do you mean. 😅

[@lewisharvey7969]

@@Iyoverse oops I meant not getting him 😭😭

[@source324]

As long they dont add weakness break immunity both side in end game (moc,etc) my acheron qnd firefly gon fuck them up imagine a moc stage where both side are immune to weakness break fireflop gon hit hard

[@izumolee6714]

Firefly's team compared to say an Acheron team it is arguably more f2p friendly as 2 out of the 4 characters are free being HMC & Galagher. Heck you can even make a team with Asta/Pela & Firefly can still do the work if you don't have Ruan Mei. Also farming for gear & stats is much easier since you're not fishing for double crit stats. Acheron is & will always be great but i feel lot more comfortable using a Firefly team.

[@afrodykeeism]

Can you do a guide or something on maximizing your Seele? I have e0s0 firefly and e0s0 Acheron so Seele hasn’t been seeing as much action because I run her mono quantum and my e0s0 acheron usually has silverwof. I also have fu xuan, sparkle and robin and I’m trying to see if I can win the 50/50 and get to pity on ruan Mei. So far I’ve been running firefly, hmc, Gallagher and Himeko for one team and Acheron, silver wolf, pela and fu xuan for the other side. I have e0s0 Daniel too but I’ve neglected him.

[@diasf13]

Its nice that someone is testing seele on this stage of the game, from my experience seele isn't that efficient in the newer MOCs, its better to run a bare minimum newer characters compare to maximize seele equips to be par with them. But maybe i'll farm for seele after i get better equips for firefly

[@limhx-6734]

i fw the kirby beanie fr

[@TheWoodcookie]

I dont really look at tier lists much since coming from games like league of legends, hearthstone, genshin and etc. Meta always changes. I recommend pulling for whoever you like at all times. Seelie I also thing is slept on too. She has helped me carry the whole game since 1.0,but Im biased since I got her on my first pull ever on day one .

[@sierr1302]

I welcome the scientific pessimism but then I watched the ad read and flexispot showed me the way. Thank you Mr. Iyo

[@ClawBreaker52]

9:44 Yeah idk about using clara with ruan mei

[@MrWario20001]

😊 this firefly team helped me clear moc and pure fiction. Too good 👍🏾

[@KniveMikoto]

I don't agree with some of your takes (not specific to this vid) but your content is 🔥 so subbed! Keep going.

[@limhx-6734]

Kirby beanie is fire

[@ManhwaLoverBR]

taking your future sight into consideration: Your toughts on Jiaoqiu?

[@saturna1576]

Not Iyo but an insane Subslot Sub-DPS also for Bursty Units, and especially a monster for Acheron cause he's Vulnerability Implant Centered

[@UltimatePollo3495]

He got nerfed😢​@@saturna1576

[@ManhwaLoverBR]

@@saturna1576 did you see his v5?

[@tribopower]

Crazy how F2P the best FF team is in comparison to the best Acheron Team, Jingliu Team or any other top tier team

[@Ohmygh0st]

Clicked faster than pulling for black swans banner when she came out

[@Cuddle_with_Furina]

clicked faster than pulling Sparkle rerun banner when she come out

[@bandi642]

im hyped for the tierlist when moc doesnt favor break effect

[@sierr1302]

All jokes aside that was an amazing ad read 😂

[@somedude8435]

1:40 that looks like Boa Hancock from One Piece 😳

[@subtlesong8936]

Personally, while I appreciate and fully understand what makes Gallagher so amazing, there's something in my brain that prevents me from clicking with him. I'm just not having fun when I run him E6 on my FF/BH teams. Personally, I've been loving running my E0S0 Huohuo with my Firefly team. Having her ult to help ensure a 1 turn ult recharge for Firefly is so nice. She can be run quite SP positive by sacrificing some talent uptime, and that attack boost helps immensely for Firefly. It's been a lot of fun, especially for someone who doesn't care about 0 cycling.

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

Gallagher has that husbando debuff frfr He's getting replaced instantly when a 5* Break Sustainer is released

[@subtlesong8936]

@@NiaTheMilkTank I won't deny that might be the case, but it might be because I prefer regen style sustainers in the games I play. My two sustains in HSR are Aventurine and Huohuo, and I tend to play Sage and Astro in FFXIV.

[@chriszerfass7722]

I feel its because Gallagher is fire moreso that makes it helps her break easier for bosses toughness bars since she implants fire weakness​@NiaTheMilkTank

[@user-eo2db5il3x]

Gala casually hiiting 200k superbreak when Hwahwa doing nothing. Defenetly not a waifu bias.

[@Taunt69]

with huohuo robin > rm without break team dots too it is versatile and good. but not "the best everywhere." She is the best only in break

[@shmolsss]

Is that Boa hancock on the bottome left

[@Iyoverse]

No. Y’all weren’t supposed to pay attention to that. 😭

[@JustLeo5]

Can’t wait until they release an imaginary break dps . Implant imaginary, and never let the enemy move while hitting them with super break. And if I remember correctly imaginary break delay scales off break. So mono imaginary could be scary.

[@user-eo2db5il3x]

Just build new March 7 with break. Perfect substitute for RM.

[@BakedConjurer5]

i wouldnt really say that the firefly meta is flawless, its easily flawed with enemies that cancel out weakness, enemies like sam that hasnt opened the weakness, and phase two trotters where it removes weakness however this is why acheron team is super good because generally with weakness or not acheron will still deal those humongous dmg Firefly team is the best at doing its purpose which is to deal "break dmg" and noone will do it better than them however we can only say that firefly is as good as acheron but will never be stronger just cuz acheron is simply an all rounder

[@Kaien-qf6cr]

I just realized with firefly kit even if in the future she is not meta again she can be sub dps/fast breaker for break team with her easy implant fire and her high break-unit, i am sorry but boothil cant do that he is dmg nuker

[@thelastgamurai]

Fork! Guess the Gamurai is saving for Boothill now

[@DragonoftheDarknessFlame]

Might be a hot take but I think Bailu can be bumped up a bit

[@LittleMissZackyVee]

fu xuan goin down is weird but oddly makes sense to me. I like her but everything is just hitting harder now but its weird to see her after being in 0 since she came out.

[@user-eo2db5il3x]

She was down the moment Aven came out. Why bothering with taking damage at all when Aven just make you immune to damage and cc with his infinite shields works?

[@niernightgaming2925]

​@@user-eo2db5il3x🙃She still gives crit buffs ,debufg resis .She is still usable ,aven is good cause of shields

[@revt3129]

@@niernightgaming2925 She does still usable. But i ain't suprised, if they reduce her one tier. Her only weaknesses is her own damage mitigation while Aven can sustain if you use his turn good enough, also nowadays FuA is Meta and usually newest character are better than old ones.

[@user-eo2db5il3x]

@niernightgaming2925 Usable doesn't mean T0. Seele is still usable, despite all powercreep shenanigans, so?

[@simonya1152]

The only time you were wrong was with sparkle

[@Kaien-qf6cr]

About seele vs DHIL please dont say you use your e4 seele as comparison. Her free 15% cr, 25 spd, and 15 energy is impactfull

[@Iyoverse]

I used my personal one from the previous MoC’s but the footage and testing displayed in todays video was E0S0. I have tests in-game from both both and that doesn’t change my results. E4 Seele is not a great eidolon investment (I did not do it on purpose either). In fact, having eidolons just makes most of the runs/team synergy even harder, which means I had to work harder than anyone else doing the runs. Lol That’s why it didn’t change results.

[@jiaqiongzhang3151]

You should compare them at E0S1, DPS without their signature LC miss a lot of their potential. If you insist on E0S0 then some 4 Stars would outperform them, which are way more attainable and probably E6 anyway.

[@cancelno1542]

I dont have ruan mei but have aventurine and the team is just invencible. 90-100 of RE

[@Amuro_Tooru]

The Firefly team should be called Freak (F)irefly B(reak)

[@void0921]

Different patch means different tier list. HSR likes to change things up fast 😆

[@dante19890]

lol You were wrong about Firefly saying it was an easy skip lol

[@Iyoverse]

You were wrong for assuming my entire opinion based on a thumbnail with a question mark in it. 🙃

[@dante19890]

@@Iyoverse you have yourself to blame for that

[@Iyoverse]

@@dante19890 I am not taking blame for your horrendous comprehension skills. Nooooo way. 😅

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

It's funny because whenever someone that isn't a CN player has this take they get written off, even some of these takes are so simple to see. I went in only wanting to get one copy of FF and immediately was like "nah she cooking" paid up and got E2S1. You're most recent video about Fighting game players eating virtually anything up hit too close to home

[@Papopip]

0:06 bro clapped so many times and we only hear it once = Bro said so much but so little at the same time

[@UltimateGenosyko]

Keeping up with meta is exhausting.

[@okers12]

If weakness locked then BE teams become so badddddddddddddddddd

[@darkwolf9637]

He's no longer iyo now he's elio

[@rocky3646]

Listen. If jade's skill gove Jing Yuan the right amount of speed. He becomes the complete character we needed him to be. He gets the 10 stacks, can run attack boots and just goes bonkers while also helping jade follow up more. Wait for it Iyo

[@Kaien-qf6cr]

Sparkle do that for jingyuan now

[@EloyBushida]

People complain about ultra restrictive team comps because for a lot of people they just want to play their favorite characters together on a team, and for some characters (Acheron and Firefly) doing that will nerf them into the ground. People don't like to be limited in that way.

[@thatonekid4061]

Another iyo W

[@shajankumarbhandari2249]

Bros like everything is complete and that’s good enough for you😂

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

I never use Gal because no men on my teams, and it still performs great

[@crowing3886]

I mean, if a game puts a new premiere mechanic in the game of course it'll change the meta. Who actually said it wouldn't change? This TL is trash because Xueyi should be waaaay higher. She was the original colorless breaker with BE already in her kit. I clapped apocalyptic shadow with her since i didn't pull firefly 😂

[@theashianz3562]

This is my take, I think no one in the sustain category is in 0 tier! Aven, FX, houhou, gallagher should just be in the same tier in 0.5 Cause if u put Aventurine in tier 0, you does that mean he is same level as ruan mei? Acheron? Firefly? As yourselves.

[@Mrteahuge]

He is a sustain so why u compare him to other characters with COMPLETELY different role ? Bigggg cap right there

[@sabin1999]

Ai i dont care about power creep as long as you can still clear using what you want then be my guest

[@crimsonraiderxv3422]

I hear that Scarlet Nexus music. Don't worry my guy. 😤👌

[@grammysworld5449]

You were right AGAIN.. People are finding any reason to discredit this character.. But we've seen this story with Ruan Mei and we won that battle too.. Break and Dual Dps mains have been successfully playing the long game and looking ahead for months

[@MinKiu410]

I kinda disagree with people complaining about how FF comp is too fixed too. Like that fixed comp is currently the strongest version of her comp anyways so why bother changing anything. But its not like it doesnt have any downside. Because Mei is the strongest Supporter that pretty much all teams desire her. I currently have Seele, Ratio, DoT, JL and only 2 comps in my account dont need Mei. Sadly my strongest + most invest comp is DoT comp that requires Mei. By using FF best comp, I have to sub Asta in her slot in DoT comp which drastically dampen it's performance. Hope they release another best Support that I can fill in my DoT comp

[@kennethyoung7457]

Crazy we haven't been getting more DOT units when it seems we get followup dps or supports every other patch. Jade and Yunli literally back to back followup dps.

[@celestethawthorne6579]

I said boothill himeko could work two patches ago rahhhh

[@alecerosunicornis7661]

nah bro boothill is just better than jingliu

[@Tam-lv1mp]

Based Seele and daniel take. Thanks for disclosing your calculations to silence the arguments once and for all.

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

The video title does NOT match your 2.2 tier list videos thoughts on break meta Iyo. Literally just acknowledge you were wrong on this ONE take

[@Iyoverse]

I went back and watched the entire 2.2 tier list video. What thoughts then, did not match up with now? I haven't tone a tier list video since then. If you're referring to the CE server Boothill video from 3 weeks ago, then I; a) already addressed that in a separate comment we've been talking in, and b) have over 5 streams & 4 videos gradually expressing my thoughts on the break meta involving both Boot & FF together or separately. What specifically did I say that doesn't match up with now so that I'm aware of what you want me to acknowledge.

[@bender1987]

Yeah, man, I wanna like this guy, I keep trying to give him a shot (He's got a great Everyman vibe going). Still, He has these basic takes that he never reaches himself and passes off as if he's a theory crafter or something when he has proven so many times he does not know a lot about the game, which is fine honestly. I wish he would lean more into just being himself and not like some fake "I'm super good at predicting what's gonna happen" BS