I was WARNED this could happen on my FMS Pitts, and it did!

In one of my first vids on this FMs Pitts, a subscriber commented this might happen, and it did! So if you have one of these, you might want see why it happened in the Analysis.
Then, the relaxed flight, after my mods, says it all. Thanks for spending this 8 minutes with me and happy flying.
Dave
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[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Glad you saved it, and glad you went for our mod on the hatch. It is the easiest way to make sure that never happens again.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes very clever and better than my pin. 🙏

[@reckemroysrc3764]

Love my Pitts. This is a mod I need to do. 😊

[@NightFlyyer]

@@reckemroysrc3764 Yes. Do it now!

[@scotabot7826]

Great flying Dave!! Never stop flying the model until it has completely stopped. Nice emergency landing!!!

[@NightFlyyer]

That is one of my rules of thumb for sure. Keep flying, as you were, even if you can't see it. Thanks so kindly!

[@mikecarbone828]

Nice save! Thanks for sharing your experience and sharing with us all the advice and the heads up on the battery tray issue that was conveyed to you by another enthusiast, this may help others to avoid a similar situation with their Pitts. It looks like enjoy flying the aircraft now and have it well under control. Nice flying! Happy flying! Thank you for posting these videos! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️✨✈️

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks very kindly, Mike. Yep, all good now with a foam block brace added to the bottom of the canopy. It was an easy fix. Maybe FMS will heed this and make a mod to the Battery tray. Be well.

[@NightFlyyer]

In one of my first vids on this FMs Pitts, a subscriber commented this might happen, and it did! So if you have one of these, you might want see why it happened in the Analysis. Then, the relaxed flight, after my mods, says it all. Thanks for spending this 8 minutes with me and happy flying. Dave These 2 planes are the Pitts! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGSug4SqqJygi6s Brand new Byron Pitts flies kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooGVdaeOfMp1ba8

[@old-rcplane-phart]

May have been ME! IF I mentioned 4 you to watch the fms pitts video 'Model AV8R' did, it was me! I lost my 1st, due to the batteryvtray clips breaking.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@old-rcplane-phart Well when I get a new plane, I do not watch others, so not to be biased when I make mine videos. Maybe I should have. I have since watched and commented on Model AV8R's. Thanks.

[@phononut]

Glad you saved it. I cannot tell you how many times I've watched your old original Pitts video. It's one of my favorites.

[@NightFlyyer]

Right on. I appreciate that and your long time subscription. Thanks so much!

[@Airsally]

Great save, great fun flying . Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks so kindly and happy flying.

[@ambereyes5393]

Your "Camera Person" does great work. Such a steady hand on the camera!

[@NightFlyyer]

My wife Ilea is a great assistant as well, and since no one around here flys, I need her for sure. She does great and does it all with my iPhone 11. Thanks so kindly.

[@IJustGotHere]

This is one of my favorite planes for sure. I also had the battery tray fall out. I probably fought it in hovers for 20 seconds or more. Mine also landed on the wheels luckily. I ended up adding a piece of foam to the canopy to hold it forward. Also, if you get the P47 from FMS it is actually way nastier. Same issue and the battery fell out during inverted flight pushing the canopy off and falling completely out. No saving that one. Thanks for sharing! 😀👍

[@NightFlyyer]

Wow, I am hearing lots of the same story's, but now on lots of different FMS planes too. Sorry to hear about your P47. Thanks much.

[@DutchRC]

Okee.. before I watch your analysis: it sounds like a plastick motor-mount.. I've heard that lots of times with old Multiplex planes.. Nice catch on the first landing sir! :) Soooo it was the spinner then? Glad it's still in 1 piece! :D

[@NightFlyyer]

I thought that too, but it really felt tight. The prop was slightly out of balance, but the spinner was worse. As you heard, it sounds smooth and pleasing in my last flight and i can even hear the wind noise over the wings. So now I will really work on a better latch. Thanks much.

[@PhilipCockram]

I had this happen on my 850mm pitts as well , the slide in tray came loose with aggressive maneuvers I use a piece of foam now in all planes that don't have rock solid battery tie downs .

[@NightFlyyer]

Sorry to hear that and glad you fixed it. I added a foam block to the bottom front of my canopy, so it holds the battery from sliding back as suggested by others as well. I appreciate the comment and hope you have happy flying with it. Thanks.

[@PhilipCockram]

@@NightFlyyer You're welcome , Yes lesson learned , luckily the plane was ok . I have this one (FMS 1400) as well , but haven't flown it yet . I'll make sure to secure the battery good when I do .

[@TimDBarnett]

Wow! The things I learn from being subscribed to your channel. Over 15 years ago my first red Pitts S1 was an 800mm and on its maiden flight it nosed over and did a nose dive after a couple of spins. I thought it lost connection with my transmitter because I had no control to save it. Unfortunately it was in many pieces, battery caught fire, and the plane unrepairable. This could have been the problem.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yikes. That sounds bad. I am sorry to hear that. Thanks so much for being a long time subscriber. I appreciate you.

[@dougkubash8673]

Always fun to watch your flying skills! i had a similar experience with my Aerosky hexcopter. The battery came loose in flight and was hanging off the side by the wires. It sure threw things out of whack.

[@NightFlyyer]

I can see that happening too. Thanks a lot Doug. I appreciate you.

[@bartasher1737]

Yep I have a large piece of foam that I anchor behind the battery tray to keep it in place.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes. I did that after this and it works great. Thanks.

[@flycatchful]

I participated in the Sportsman Class of Pattern and your flying style reminds me of when I used to fly.

[@NightFlyyer]

Right on. I like lazy pattern for sure. It's less stressful to do and fun to watch. Glad you recognize that. Thanks so kindly and happy flying.

[@mpojr]

I been flying bipes for about 40years Love tail draggers l have a andrews Aeromaster and a gp pitts like your Channel. Safe flying

[@NightFlyyer]

Great to hear that. I got hooked on biplanes (especially Aeromasters that I started on) after winning a trophy at the National Multiwing Championships in the early 80's. Thanks so kindly and happy flying.

[@tonypitsacota2513]

Whoever took your video did a very nice job.

[@NightFlyyer]

I have a cam on my head, but my wife did most of it. I will tell her your comments. Thanks so much!

[@3DMOFO2020]

2:03 Thankfully it didn't crash in to pieces. 2:37 Yep! I did see that same thing happen in another video with another FMS Pitts. 3:26 Or practising 3d flying like I do LOL! It's always a pleasure to see you flying a Pitts bipe Dave great job on getting rid of that noise that was coming from the plane👍👍😎😎

[@NightFlyyer]

I agree and appreciate you and your comments. Happy flying.

[@USAF305]

Nice flying!

[@NightFlyyer]

Thank you Ken! I appreciate you.

[@tughillrc6327]

Very good save, That battery tray needs to be redesigned.

[@NightFlyyer]

Right on. I have successfully fixed it now. Thanks much!

[@wb8ujb]

Very nice flight and demo. I flew the Aeromaster for many years, until that unfortunate day when landing. :( Great video, shows just how much fun a guy can have with no adjenda in mind. And yes, I remember the judges rules on throttle off at the top, till you level out. Thanks for sharing my friend .

[@NightFlyyer]

Right on, Robert. I appreciate you who knows how it was in the beginnings. Thanks so kindly.

[@frankmoss6319]

I have the Eflite 850 model, they used a tray system also. Does the same, slid back, saved it with a splat landing. I now secure tray with Velcro.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, neat design all right, but a poor locking system for heavy batteries. Glad you saved yours too. Thanks, Frank.

[@SoCal780]

Nice save! I knew you’d find the problem and I also knew that you would fix it. Nice job sir. I sure miss that big Pitts and its throaty sounding engine but it’s nice to know that it’s here in Indiana. Semper Fi.

[@NightFlyyer]

Right on Scott. Yes, I miss that one too, but I thing because of the rarity, it is better off in the AMA museum rather than being auctioned off after I'm dead. Thanks much and Semper Fi.

[@sparrowlt]

Glad it ended well ... Lost a twin EDF last week and have an idea of what might have failed but sadly while i could recover the wreck, the parts where i suspected the failure was (ESC witg the BEC that feed the 5V and battery Y harness) were ejected on impact and dissapeared way down cliff so i will never be sure if the ESC or the Y harness failed..

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks so kindly. Sorry to hear about yours.

[@sparrowlt]

@@NightFlyyer Oh apologies, i left my post half way somehow.. wanted to estress those small quirks that sometimes develop and often they develop quickly into full blown failures that might end losing the plane.. had i landed when the first power surges occured the plane might had survived.. i have seen friends lost planes wich began with servos doing weird things and they shruged it, kept flying and ended up losing the plane.

[@victormiranda9163]

very good save. electric batteries need a good compartment to keep them from meandering about the cabin...

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, and manufacturers should know that. Thanks much.

[@tedsmith6137]

Almost ended up in a 'Graveyard Spiral'. LOL! Good save.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yep. I was getting dangerously close to those trees too, so had to act quick. Thanks much, Ted.

[@jolepapy]

I don't know if you'll fly with it for long, on mine the servos all jumped notches one after the other and the ball joint screws are a disaster. Besides, it ended up in the trash. Good flights. Jo from France

[@NightFlyyer]

WOW, that is strange. You must fly very violently to strip gears in flight! I have flown mine over 50 times and never had a servo fail like that. Here is another video you may enjoy comparing my Byron Pitts to the FMS Pitts. Thanks and fly easy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGSug4SqqJygi6s

[@beeleo]

Your piloting skills really showed when that battery came loose. You flew it all the way to the ground... and it payed off. BTW, from your reaction after opening the canopy, I though you were seeing a snake in there or something. LOL.

[@NightFlyyer]

Haha. Thats funny. I could put a rubber snake in there and scare someone for sure. I appreciate your comments. Thanks so kindly.

[@johnnymaynard299]

Wonderful flying my friend and an awesome save !

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks so kindly, Johnny!

[@ConvairDart106]

Oh Dave, that is so funny! That happened to me with the 3D Beast. I was practicing how to hover, when suddenly, it became very easy, and I started bragging to my buddy that I had mastered it! But then, when I tried to recover, it could not! I helicoptered it down to a landing, and found the battery had slid all the way back in the tail!

[@NightFlyyer]

Dang. Wow, I am hearing from lots of folks that this has happened to them as well. I am glad you saved yours. What a story. Thanks kindly.

[@homienat3374]

Nice flying mate, do ya still fly nitro engine at all ,???

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. I'm actually doing more nitro this year. Here is a recent one, you may like. Title : Oh No! Another engine swap in the Aeromaster Bipe? Yep, a Saito 1.00, 4 Stroke. How'd that go? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqW2oaePgrGfh80

[@WORRO]

Love the way you cut the throttle in those loops. To me that's very cool. Good save on the emergency landing. You're experience and talent showed. I wonder if velcro would help you out? Just a thought. Great seeing you and your beautiful Wife Dave. Thanks for sharing. Thumbs 👍🏻 up video ~John

[@NightFlyyer]

Its fun do do and really the best way to do loops. Ive seen many wing folds back in the day when folks did full power loops and pulled out too hard at the bottom. I like gentle scale pattern flying, and it is fun for me to watch myself. Like my own Personal Airshow. LOL. Thanks so kindly, John.

[@secularsunshine9036]

Hi, I identified the issue before my first flight and fabricated a balsa block that pushes into the slots behind the battery to assure the battery doesn't move, it snaps in place and is easily removed. The wiring on the battery complicates things but you need to do something. Also mine didn't come with the stripes on the bottom wing. thanks, I hope you're on your break time.

[@ChrisDavis-eq9lj]

Nice save! The big EFlite Carbon Z Cub doesn't get that upset if you accidentally let the 6s7000mah slide to the tail its full length. And congratulations on getting an FMS plane that has an attached motor mount/firewall. I've had two FMS firewall fails and seen others. I solved the problem by not buying any more FMS junk. Keep landing on the wheels!

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks. This is a V2, so guess they fixed stuff I didn't know about. I never buy the first model of anything, typically, so here 2 years later, (I did change the wheels to rubber instead of that noisy plastic and I put a MG servo in the tail wheel/rudder slot.) The battery tray is handy, but it still needs a better locking mechanism. The foam block on my Canopy has that now fixed. Thanks and happy flying, Chris.

[@0000archie]

I glued a piece of conveniently shaped foam under the canopy to hold the battery in place. Over time, the tray is completely free, and this mod is pretty much the only thing holding it in. It took a while to line it up properly but this will never happen to me.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, as others suggested, that is exactly what I did. Too bad I didn't do this before I flew it, but no damage and all is good now. Thanks for the suggestion and happy flying.

[@tomfuller7401]

Glad to see you got it down in one piece. That CG shift could have been real disaster. For a foam Bipe, it flies nice.

[@NightFlyyer]

Me too. It actually was a disaster for a moment. BTW, my Byron Pitts is a foamie too. LOL. Thanks Tom.

[@sanexup1038]

Thanks for the warning!!!! Great flying!!!

[@NightFlyyer]

That is what is supposed to be about. People helping people, so I am glad for your comments. Thanks so kindly.

[@jagwathney]

Wow 😮 could you make a video with tips on how you land a tail dragger on grass?✌🏾

[@NightFlyyer]

Well just like a real taildragger, land on the front wheels first. So come in level, touch the main gear, then just drop the tail. It is just a rudder on a boat, in the grass after that.

[@Gavs_rc_hobbies]

Very fortunate that it wasn't destroyed when the battery shifted. Great save.

[@NightFlyyer]

For sure. Thanks so much!

[@havocisomegathegigaddiappl9560]

That is a gorgeous plain enjoys flying

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks so very kindly.

[@greg0063]

Good looking out. Also double check the hinges, they are another possible weak point on this plane. One guy did a PSA about it at our club meet.

[@phillipzx3754]

Cool video. I notice that had your crash been fatal, you were near a cemetery so you could give the "pilot" a proper resting place. 🤣

[@NightFlyyer]

Right next to where I will be buried! LOL. Thanks.

[@tonydeaton1967]

Lost a Spitfire the same way. Great save.

[@NightFlyyer]

That sucks too. Thanks much.

[@burtronomaniac]

Nothing like having a captive audience that can’t leave 😂😂😂

[@Grossman2868]

I have the version one of the Pitts, three blades, with the battery straps that were in the wrong place. After watching video after video that told me to run the battery as far forward as possible, even trim the inside fuse to move it forward and add weight, I took it to Dave Scott and determined it was waaaaay too nose heavy!! there really wasn't any info on how to determine the CG on a biplane that I ever found. Anyway, got it sorted out and I use industrial strength Velcro on the fuse and the battery. It sounds like the plane is being ripped apart when changing it out , but that battery doesn't move. Also, there never has been anything on how to balance a three or four bladed prop that I ever found. Figured it out on my own. Balancing a prop with the spinner on is something I haven't done either, both subjects would make for great videos.

[@SlowFlyer85]

Nice save and no damage I still have to do the mod on my FMS pitts too 😃👍👍

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks so kindly. You will be glad you did. Happy flying.

[@budparriott8054]

Yep, another problem solved, and you saved the Pits just like the times you saved your F-16 when you said: "I Haven't Got It" on the dump road. SemperFi, Der Dave!

[@NightFlyyer]

Those days of RF blackouts are finally over today for sure and you were there. Thanks much and Semper Fi, Bud.

[@Skydive4ever]

Glad to see you flying 🙂

[@NightFlyyer]

I keep going and going for sure, no matter what. Thanks so kindly.

[@bdanielcal4608]

That thing sounds like a 4 stroke when you hit the throttle I was confused since it is a fms

[@NightFlyyer]

It has a unique sound and especially sounds better after balancing the prop and spinner. Thanks kindly.

[@HarryBunnGRVOTV]

Glad you saved it.

[@NightFlyyer]

Me too. You were right. After your comment, I even added a pin to keep it in, but it still slid back. Thanks.

[@old-rcplane-phart]

I took my year old pitts & swapped out the plastic gear servos for 4 extra 300 (eflite) servos. Added 100a avian esc, & avian 480kv motor. It's every bit AS nimble & will do AS much 3D'n as my extra 300 will.

[@old-rcplane-phart]

& using a 16x8 xoar wood propeller.

[@ZebZanko]

"I hear a horrible noise coming from my airplane" "That' OK Cleetus, just keep on flying, until it crashes or gets better". A battery moving fix is to glue a chunk of Styrofoam to the underside of the canopy floor that is close to or contacts the battery to prevent it from moving once the canopy is installed.

[@NightFlyyer]

The noise was the small bungee cord with a ball, I forgot to remove from the landing gear to hang it on the wall. It was not the battery. I right away, before my next flight, put a block of foam in there to keep the battery in place when I saw what happened. Thanks.

[@ZebZanko]

@@NightFlyyer Great...I never thought the noise was from the battery. My point was if you hear unusual noises from the airplane, it's best to land it as quickly as possible. I've seen more than one airplane auger in after hearing weird noises.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@ZebZanko Me too, but I saw right away the bungee and that it wasn’t causing any trouble so kept flying. Of course if it was undefined, I certainly would have landed. Thanks.

[@scottfirman]

Good save! Nice plane. I am a sucker for biplanes. They do require lots of room to fly, but fun.

[@truenaturestormers2525]

Try the UMX Pitts, I know it is SMALL, my brother got one, so I did also, it is so amazing, and fun and flies in a small area.

[@scottfirman]

@@truenaturestormers2525 Mine is still brand new in box.

[@truenaturestormers2525]

@@scottfirman I love biplanes, they use to make many of them, I have seen on U tube, but most of them they do not make any more, of the less expensive ones, have a great day. Night Flyer is so amazing guy, I love his videos, old school from the beginning of RC.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@truenaturestormers2525 Those are very cool too.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@scottfirman Better fly it.

[@acerider2005]

good to see you. how are you doing health wise?

[@NightFlyyer]

Hi. Long time no see here. I am doing well and cancer treatments are done. Now we will see how they work out. Thanks so kindly. I appreciate you.

[@mikesrcgarage]

Well if you're gonna crash especially out of a snap that was a good one... Definitely needs a battery tray upgrade/fix!

[@NightFlyyer]

It definitly was a fast landing and the tall grass flipped it, but the gear didn't bend, luckily. The many comments about a good fix has been done. Thanks so much, Mike.

[@mikesrcgarage]

@@NightFlyyer You're very welcome and I was glad to see it was not a yard sale!

[@natal777]

Great save !

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks so much, John!

[@Emiliocab47]

There is a relatively easy fix for this by attaching some material ( thin ply) vertically down from the front of the detachable canopy

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, and I am doing that as we speak. Thanks so kindly.

[@Emiliocab47]

@NightFlyyer The Eflite 800 mm version has the same issue!

[@s737500]

Glue a block of foam/wood under the canopy sp the battery cant slide aft.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, Already done. Thanks.

[@timbarnett3898]

Isn't a Pitts Racer just too fast to be controlled sufficiently as a RC model flyer? Before controller can interact planes smashed into ground? When you hear discrepancy in plane sounding not right, why continue flying loops an not just land plane too determine problem? Glad my brother didn't do that as F-4 plane captain on Enterprise! (Find an fix problems after plane crash, not before.) I know about plane crashes. Airplane on my first flight crashed on landing. My father lifted a cut me from hanging seatbelt while upside down.

[@NightFlyyer]

Not at all since rc control is instantaneous. Not like Fpv lag and why I was able to save it in such a short time. I also know a lot about crashes that I learned from rc that has saved me in the real thing. Maybe check out my rf4b videos or my uss midway videos or my other pitts videos. And a slightly unbalance prop had nothing to do with the fact this model’s battery mount is flawed as others have pointed out and fixed.

[@derfnam1402]

I glued a piece of EPP on the bottom of the canopy to hold the battery in place: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6CoqI2LfL2ahJY

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, that will work and is a great idea. I have put a similar piece there now as well. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@spacepicture]

I noticed this before I flew mine,hardly anything to hold all that battery weight,so I made something up so could not slide back,a bad mistake by FMS

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, I did the same. I put a pin in the foam to hold it, but alas, it came loose anyway. Good idea with the slide in battery tray, but the lock leaves a lot to be desired. A foam block on my canopy now holds it from sliding as others have suggested. Thanks so much and happy flying.

[@bobi2582]

Can't believe you fly at the local cemetery!!!

[@NightFlyyer]

No one complains, and I am actually standing right in front of my own grave-site. So flying here will be something everybody will remember, especially my family.

[@incubrian]

an easy remedy for this is: 1) get good velcro (aka good adhesive) lay down a large fuzzy strip on the plane, and the batteries all get the hard side. (or vice versa if you like but pick a standard so your whole fleet is interchangeable) 2) throw out all your battery trays and velcro straps because those never work and are wayyyyyyyy too cumbersome to deal with 3) enjoy an easy to install battery in any orientation that is far easier to situate in the plane AND helps you be precise in placement 4) never have a battery move ever again i have been flying lipos up to 12S since 2005 and never once launched a battery or had it move in flight, and this is doing full 3D, violent G forces, and jets. velcro can take an insane amount of G forces, but all these pilots think a tray and straps are necessary, when in reality THOSE are the things that actually cause batteries to move. simple velcro strips is literally all you need.

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks for the suggestion, but know I am no novice at this game and well aware of Velcro, its good and bad features. I have been using Velcro in models since they invented it for the space program and it became available to the public. I used it to mount and keep fuel tanks from sliding before anybody had electric planes or helis. But of course they needed a strap around them as well. Velcro alone is not enough. It works great, but the adhesive is not always that great and can come off with a hot battery. Had you had seen my previous videos on this Pitts, you would know that the battery (that weighs almost 2 lbs ) DOES have Velcro on it and is attached to the sliding battery tray. It also has Velcro straps around it, and so the battery is extremely well attached to the sliding tray. There is no floor under this tray to attach any Velcro to as you suggest. Besides that, Velcro by itself does not stick to foam as well as plastic or wood (as you should know), so it would not be able to hold this battery by itself. Therefore you would somehow have to be able to reach in there to be able to tighten some straps around something, like a wood floor being epoxied in. You just cant reach under there. No room. So the slide in battery tray became the answer and is a very ingenious design. FMS has this on many of it's big models. Others had the same problems, as we see in their comments. The slide in battery tray is a great idea and makes installing the battery easy and at the right CG. But the weak point is the latch that it "clicks" into. Under high forward thrust g's , it let the whole tray slide back and out of its guide rails. My simple fix was borne from all those that this also happened to and their comments. That was to install a simple foam or wood block on the bottom front of the canopy to block it from sliding back when installing the canopy. I have already done that now and that was easy. Others provided links that shows the pictures of their installs. It works for me and took no re-engineering or time.

[@incubrian]

@@NightFlyyer haha velcro alone IS enough- that was the point of my comment! if you're that into trays and straps by all means continue, but i have 12S packs that are 2-5x the weight and size (and heat) of your pack you are using, and velcro is most certainly all you need for the simple/elegant battery install. as in most things aerospace, overcomplicating a design causes failure points, as we see in the vid. simple is always best. and if you're wondering what kind to use, there is a blue industrial velcro that has the best adhesive ever. great stuff, cheap, and always works.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@incubrian If you had this plane, you would know it wont work. I see no airplane vids on your channel. There is no place to put the Velcro without building a floor in there to stick it to, so you missed the point of my comment. For sure I have plenty of industrial Velcro type material, but again, there needs to be a place to stick it.

[@incubrian]

@@NightFlyyer haha i DO have that plane! that's how i found your vid ;) i have never heard of this plane chucking batteries, so i was perplexed to see this. love FMS stuff actually. but yeah that's what i did in this instance, ditched the tray, made a floor, velcro on it, bam. super clean, and you can quickly and easily adjust cg by millimeters since its just sitting on a pad of velcro. but like i say, whatever works for ya man!

[@HEATRACER24]

The stock plastic geared servo went out on me when trying to pull out from a loop, well it didn't end well. I have MG servos going in it when the tears clear my eyes and I am able to fix her.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, I never fly out of a loop that hard, as you saw, so never a problem for me folding wings or tearing out servos. But I did change the tail wheel/rudder servo to a metal gear, as that one gets lots of abuse on the ground. Sorry you had that happen.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

How's the hand?

[@NightFlyyer]

It’s better, but the finger doesn’t work 100%. I can use it ok though. Thanks for asking.

[@alanreynolds2125]

Dave you cant beat a little luck!!! take care. p.s or was it skill?

[@NightFlyyer]

I like to think it was a little of both! Thanks Alan!

[@loopdeelooprc5002]

I recently posted a similar video of my Pitts, though my battery slid off the tray so i put some foam on it.

[@NightFlyyer]

I put Velcro on my tray, as your right, the battery slides on the sliding tray as well. Thanks.

[@sirstomper]

Here's a fix for the battery tray that Adam came up with that works very well, I followed the exact same preventive measures and I've not had a problem. You'll find the mod at 8:47 in the video........> kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZvMY3ylYsZ8jNU

[@NightFlyyer]

I watched yours and have decided to use your method. That is a great idea. I also changed out the tail wheel/rudder servo to a metal gear one before I ever flew it, as that one takes lots of jolting abuse. Plus, I put Dubro Rubber wheels on it as well, as the others were noisy on take off. Thanks for the great tip and happy flying.

[@mezonspb]

Здравствуйте. Я Сергей. Живу в России. Занимаюсь Моделями самолетов. По совокупности обстоятельств ни на одном сайте , где продаются эти замечательные бипланы нет возможности заказать доставку в мою страну. Вы можете каким то способом посодействовать мне в покупке такого самолета.

[@nicholasmicelidc161]

Same thing happened to me.

[@NightFlyyer]

Hope you saved it.

[@markhardy6738]

Sounds like the prop is on backwards

[@NightFlyyer]

@@markhardy6738 Of course it was not. I just flew it last week in my cemetery video. Same prop.

[@jeffreyhickman3871]

There’s a couple things I don’t like 👍 about RC airplanes ✈️. One ☝️ is the plane getting out of range of the RC controller, or it malfunctioning, and not responding to the controller, such as if something in the area is causing interference. Two, since our perception with our sight changes, as the plane gets higher, and further away, I wouldn’t want to get it stuck on 🔝 of a building, or in a tree 🌲. To thirdly mention, I wouldn’t want to accidentally fly one of these planes through an open window 🪟, and seriously hurt 😞 somebody. The spinning 😵‍💫 propeller would be very unrelenting and dangerous to be hit by. I also wouldn’t like 👍 how you have to move the controller’s elevator 🛗 stick so far. This could make the plane go straight 🆙, or straight down, ruining it, if ya hit the ground. I wouldn’t try running 🏃 these planes on regular gasoline ⛽️, if that’s what ya were meaning, by saying that gas ⛽️ is $60.00 a gallon. That sounds like 👍 an awful 😣 lot. It probably means the fuel ⛽️ for the planes. Your friend, Jeff.

[@jeffreyhickman3871]

My phone just did something weird. This comment was for your Cessna, not your biplane. It sounds like 👍 your propeller could be out of balance. What is wrong 😑 with doing loops ➰ at full throttle? Ya said it’s wrong 😑, but I don’t know how. Your biplane is much quieter than your Cessna, because it’s electric ⚡️. Your friend, Jeff.

[@NightFlyyer]

Wings fold in many models when pulling high g's loops. In all the contests I flew in, the judges like the smooth transition, and lower throttle at the top of the loops. The bungee with a plastic ball was making the noise. It is attached to the landing gear which I use to hang on the wall. I forgot to take it off, and it was banging the fuse. Once I realized it was no problem, I continued to fly. My Cessna is also electric. Here is a link to my 1 bladed, Aeromaster Biplane, which is Nitro powered to further stimulate you. LOL. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYLThJecrcR1ja8

[@richard1472]

During a pattern contest, the judges are looking for constant speed throughout the maneuvers. This is why you reduce throttle on the down lines. Less stress on the airframe as well. But the judges don't care about that. You should, however.

[@richard1472]

@@NightFlyyer I was replying to the OP.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@richard1472 Aha. Ok. Gone.

[@MultiSkyman1]

Had it been destroyed, at least you were in a graveyard!

[@NightFlyyer]

LOL. For sure!

[@0000archie]

I glued a piece of conveniently shaped foam under the canopy to hold the battery in place. Over time, the tray is completely free, and this mod is pretty much the only thing holding it in. It took a while to line it up properly but this will never happen to me.