I was WRONG about Water Jets with OMAX

[@rgd1366able]

Glad your back! Was hoping you’d make more content!

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Glad to see a new video from u. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.

[@ryantheentrepreneur4040]

Welcome back!

[@gabewhisen3446]

Fun fact you can practice gold panning with Garnett it's that heavy strangely

[@gixxerkid3120]

12 inch x 12 inch cutting area on the little machine with a price tag of $ 27,000. I don't see that happening in my shop any time soon...lol

[@MaxKalin]

The pump is the 80% of the price tag. The table doesn't cost that much.

[@luke1811]

Great info right there! Thank you for making the video. 1.2$ seems hefty for that cut, given they probably didn't calculate any of the pump maintenance in?

[@MyYeloGremlin]

Actually.... The price shown includes All utilities as well as the consumable wear items over time. The only value not included in the end part price is the material and the operator wage.

[@Enonymouse_]

My brother works for Omax, water jets make some of the best cutouts however they are very expensive to operate. The abrasive material is costly, pumps have improved but they are still an issue for up time. The main thing though is these machines are too costly for the home or Semi-Pro DiY IMO, even the portable design is about 5-7k for a non-omax machine. Protomax starts at 26 grand, which is a huge ouch to anyone not doing high volume stuff.

[@azurehydra]

Thank you for this information. I'm interested in the ProtoMax. I can't seem to find any other small format waterjets similar to it. Would you happen to know of any?

[@mweingar]

@@azurehydra Check out the Wazer waterjet.

[@emafolo]

I Really liked the jewelry cuff at the top of the display case. Can't wait for the next video, do you think you would ever switch over to a water table?

[@42Fab]

Not for what I do currently

[@sart3537]

Love the content! Was your brother in Boy Meets World

[@skifslavyanin631]

Really great. But what's the price for machinery like this?

[@42Fab]

little guy is $30k, larger ones are over $100k

[@chopperhehehe]

@@42Fab wow wasn't expecting that price plus running it and materials plasma table will do me lol Thanks for the show Great information as always 👍👍👍😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦕🙂🤞✌

[@NiHaoMike64]

I wonder if it might be possible to DIY one based on a pressure washer or paint sprayer.

[@42Fab]

It is, but they suck. Night hawk in light did it

[@derekwright2388]

I would love a protomax mini one but I bet the price is a little high for my studio

[@MRSketch09]

Very cool.

[@rodm717]

I'm glad Omax finally recognized some of the issues with their pumps. We replaced two of their 40hp mechanical pumps with A 100hp Intensifier style pump and 90% of of our maintenance issues and costs disappeared. Their scissor system was also eliminated as it adds considerable maintenance cost over a standard whip. Other than that the table itself and software is pretty good. I would also recommend putting a gauge inline to measure pressure differential in the high pressure line while cycling to get a good picture of the wear on components.

[@MaxKalin]

I make parts for OMAX, seals and so on

[@davidwhite9906]

We have two Mitsubishi lasers and a Flow Mach 2 water jet and at first I couldn’t wait to run the water jet but now I cringe every time I have to. They’re extremely slow and it’s a mess!

[@calholli]

Can you not collect the sand and reuse it?

[@42Fab]

you could, but over time it wears down so the cut characteristics change as well as you have all the materials removed in previous cuts which do not flow through the system in the same way Garnet would. It is possible, but a lot of work

[@PeteRondeau]

Nobody is mentioning the cost of disposing of the used media. It isn't cheap

[@42Fab]

See, always something to learn, I hadn't thought of that

[@jacobmiller4928]

@@42Fab were I have worked in the past we could give it away as clean fill dirt. If you cut lead or toxic materials that would not be an option.

[@rhinons3602]

Never seen someone cut off so many people so many times

[@42Fab]

You do understand it's my job to get a conversation that translates to short form video, right? Did you see anyone offended? Or were you just looking to drag someone else down so you don't feel as low as you are?

[@KRSK36]

It's so costly. All is spare parts are so very costly. Only one dealer in India.

[@medievalhamster]

Any salesman with a stutter is either a terrible salesman or not confident in the product being sold. That being said: waterjet is awesome if you need +/-0.010 repeatability. For a sign shop, that is unnecessary.

[@MyYeloGremlin]

Actually Everyone at OMAX is an Employee Owner and has complete confidence in the product and the team that supports it! Are they camera entertainers, no. But they are Very confident in the value of the product. And FYI, an OMAX can hold .001" tolerance and in the manufacturing sector WJ is the highest revenue generator you will ever add to a shop.

[@MarkTr-zi7zg]

Late to the party but, If you think about it, someone with a stutter would have to be pretty confident in their product in order to voluntarily speak in front of others knowing they have a stutter. If I have a stutter, which I DO, I would avoid sales and speak in front of others, which I DID for 30 years as an engineer. The stutter impacted my career because so many people have these ancient and incorrect ideas, kind of like when people used to think only criminals wear tattoos. Then I invented my own product, which I believe in as much as I believe the sun rises and sets daily. And still, I sell, make videos, and discuss my product, and am so excited about it, my mind is going faster than my mouth can speak, so I sometimes stutter, especially when making videos. Just like the good information you provided here, I would ask if maybe you want to be part of the solution and not the old-school problem regarding any challenge people have.

[@dl4087]

Stay away! I've been in manufacturing maintenance for 31 years. The company I work for has two of these. Same brand. Granted you will not run them like we do. But these a maintenance heavy. We've had problems with or pumps and constantly have to rebuild the rectifier. Water everywhere, garnet everywhere every shift. Our run a 60k psi. We bought a giant router that can run circles around both water jets. Water jets are loud, maintenance heavy and costly. Don't get scammed. Look into a laser or router. We have 10 laser machines that run 24/7 no problems unless operator dosen't do good housekeeping.

[@jacobmiller4928]

I've had the opposite experience with Omax. I've been running one of some sort for almost 20 years. Now the old pumps/intensifiers had alot more maintenance than the current designs. I've only run 50ksi pumps... But that is high pressure still and high pressure water wears down materials. The first machine I used was at a university with kids running/crashing it. The CNC machine still works. It does need a new pump. The pump is not an Omax pump currently. The pump and machine are older with a pump from the 90s. Current employer has 2 Omax waterjets with Omax pumps for 6 years and we've had no problems with the pumps. I have training to rebuild one but I haven't needed to utilize the training. I regard Omax waterjets to have the best programing and control software. They make better quality cuts in material and the software comes with alot of standard material cut parameters from the factory. The nesting option in Omax software is lacking compared to hypertherm's software. Water and sand will get everywhere. I recommend placing waterjets in an area just for them. Water and garnet will slowly kill any other machine in the same work area.

[@wesleycooley1618]

Don't have that problem, I do a rebuild no more than 2 times a year but Omax will back you up if it's an issue from their end, any problem you have...they will be there to help!!

[@soupisgoodfood42]

Maybe buy the right tool for the job? I run a laser and a waterjet cutter. Laser is great for metal. But, for example, if you want to cut glass, you'll have a hard time with a laser or router. Also, many customers prefer the surface finish of the waterjet. We get all sorts of odd jobs that just wouldn't make sense on a laser or router.

[@Thomas-Designs]

“tilt-a-jet” more like “trash jet” 😂. The A-jet is we’re it’s at

[@wesleycooley1618]

Tiltajet beats the Ajet hands down when it comes to taper!! Ajet is too fragile!!

[@Thomas-Designs]

@@wesleycooley1618, yes the Ajet is more fragile, but why would someone want to limit their self?

[@wesleycooley1618]

@@Thomas-Designs depends on their needs, the Ajet gives you a wider range, I've ran both and both have their pros and cons!!