I Weighed My Peterbilt Cabover For The First Time...And I'm Shocked

In this video I weigh my Peterbilt 362 cabover. I have been waiting for over a year to finally put this truck on a scale! I believe this truck is a light weight truck, but I won't truly know until I take it to get weighed. Believe me, this one turned out to be quite a surprise. Knowing how much the truck weighs is essential before I start buying trailers and adding equipment. So come with me and take a ride - we'll have a great time.

[@user-ri5gw6jj7f]

Chassis weight is dry weight no fluids at all ,sure is a nice clean rig ,A little friendly advice from an old COE driver ,use your ladders ,30 yrs from now your joints will thank you

[@nedstephens]

Your advice is well taken. It's something I've been working on as I get in and out now. I did hurt my heel playing fireman! I do forget now and then. So thanks for what you said, probably what I need to not forget.

[@anastasiszaroliagis5066]

Agree...

[@ronwilliams266]

Ankle s and needs are the first to blow out. And if you haven't done so yet, set a routine for when you stop to drop and hook or just taking a break . Over the years, I've seen truck roll away and air lines pulled out / damaged

[@ronwilliams266]

@nedstephens yes sir . Ankles and knees the first to blow out. That a fact.

[@robertconville6269]

He is telling the truth my knees are shot!

[@TexasScout]

As the old saying goes, “old truckers never die, they just get a new Peterbilt”. He or not that’s a beautiful truck.

[@nedstephens]

That’s a good saying. You think it comes with a yellow motor? Ha. I know fellas that really hope it’s true.

[@michelbrodeur6055]

Don't forget that plate was for the truck before the frame was extended and all the additional parts needed to make it to it's new length also add in the stuff that you have in it

[@tools6106]

These are the reason Alcoas are seen everywhere, polished aluminum bumpers stack mounts changed out for aluminum! Heavy Duty means Heavy! Get an all aluminum trailer, clean it regularly and either you or pay for an inspector twice a year! Also get a friend that’s a welder, my former weld shop did repairs a few times a year with guys who hauled steel! Back then it was a case of beer, now is about $175 per hour. Everything has to be certified blah blah! Be safe!

[@44hawk28]

If you get an aluminum trailer. Make sure it is in good condition. And get at least a case of a product called Gibbs and keep it sprayed down with the Gibbs so that the aluminum doesn't begin to corrode corrosion will kill aluminum. It degrades it quite quickly once it's attached to steal and in a humid environment. You may even want to put clear coat on certain elements that have a tendency to fail Fred and with gibbs, although it is a penetrating oil, you can wipe it down and spray paint on it and it will stick Did Gibbs will soak into a millionth of an inch and if the metal is clean without salt, salt will not penetrate it.

[@JasonSmith-vd1sz]

What a beautiful truck!

[@nedstephens]

Very kind. Thank you.

[@brandonwomack7474]

Replace the deck on the frame with extruded aluminum vs solid aluminum platform. Every pound counts

[@tomcampbell6384]

Nice tractor! Back before I drove for big brown, I was a firefighter EMT. Our area included part of the Indiana Toll Road. Got a call for an accident on the west bound side during a whiteout blizzard. Driver in a 2 story rear ended a tanker hauling either liquid oxygen or nitrogen. I forget that part. I just remember it was a potentially deadly hazmat situation. The other thing was the driver of the 2 story was sticking out of the front of his tractor. Pretty much imbedded. Legs, arms, steering wheel. It was an ugly scene. I don't remember if he survived. I do remember almost getting run over by cars and big trucks flying by in the hammer lane while we were trying to cut this guy out of his tractor... Whew!!! Memories... BTW My first assigned tractor at UPS was a 2 story POS International. Cummins and a 5-speed...I was instructed not to shift in the middle of a turn at an intersection cause the transmission linkage would jam and I'd be stuck in that gear... SMH

[@wendytremblay1182]

Fill it with fuel,add chains,binders,tarps and personal stuff,some tools and you will be closer to 20000 lbs.

[@nedstephens]

Thanks for the tips! That won’t be so bad I guess.

[@davidford3073]

Yed

[@Erichb66]

Drop a fuel tank , some chrome and welcome to the real world

[@RazorW900]

You can chop the frame. Change leather(vinyl) interior parts for fabric. If You have double frame, remove inlay one..... Shortly, You can't beat the physics laws. It's always a trade, You get one thing- loose another.

[@alexclement7221]

When I used to drive an International 9700 with a dry van, empty weight was 10k steer, 10k drives, 10k tandems, and my bobtail alone used to weigh 15k, as did my trailer. So, your 10k steer is about right, but your drives are a bit heavier than my 9700 were, which is probably mostly on the double-frame extension.

[@randallbyrd2458]

Enjoyed the video thank you for sharing

[@nedstephens]

Thanks for watching👍

[@ernestbrothers1298]

No it is dry weight out the factory doors. You have build sheet from Peterbilt ? The COE has real steal components, aluminum VS plastics and alloys to lighten truck. Trailer depends on what you going to do. If flat or step bite the bullet go all aluminum.

[@nedstephens]

Makes sense. Thanks for the tip, I'll not make that mistake again!

[@alexclement7221]

FWIW, a cab/chassis without an engine is 13k-ish. Add to that the fuel (8 lbs/gallon, 800 lbs/100 gals), the extra weight from the chassis extension (extra beam inside), and a road diesel (always 2k lbs or more), and, yeah, it sounds right.

[@nedstephens]

Also found out it came out the factory a single drive. So alot has changed since it was first built. Thanks for the insight!

[@danielhofer7386]

What did I tell you. @@nedstephens

[@curtisbacon7856]

Fuel does not weigh 8 lbs per gallon

[@alexclement7221]

@@curtisbacon7856 7.1 lbs/gallon; close enough.......

[@walterbrown4278]

That’s pretty light with that double frame. When you stretch one add frame insert your going to add several thousand pounds

[@earl3334]

why everybody runs around getting there equipment as light as possible just so it can last half as long and they can kiss the customers ass by hauling more freight for free

[@nedstephens]

I was just hoping for some kind of advantage with a truck that has a bed you gotta crawl into. It's a little lighter, but not so much that crawling into bed isn't a problem :) And you're right, freight isn't good right now, so it hasn't hauled anything.

[@thedesertdwellerfromutah4354]

Totally agree with you Earl... Great comment and very true 👍💯

[@ronwilliams266]

In my job I'll start the day with half a tank . When I'm doing local runs, I get paid by the weight. And on long runs, it's a fixed rate .

[@marchalpeck470]

You may look into moving your fuel tanks back to the rear axle that'll lighten up the front in a little bit. That chassis wait was probably done before the wheelbase with extended

[@nedstephens]

Yeah that might be a good idea. I’ll have to weigh it once I put on a heavy trailer. Might find me in the shop again moving around those fuel brackets. Dog gone it 😁

[@marchalpeck470]

@@nedstephens if you lived close to me, I would be glad to be in the shop helping you with the work but that you can’t go over is a very nice looking cab over

[@PETENZcabover362]

On the loading certificate we have for NZ roads it’s 8860kg=19532 pounds 1995 362 no stretch chassis wt 16625 on the tag

[@nedstephens]

Very similar. Interesting they listed weights this way. That’s awesome you got a 95. It’s a good club 🤙

[@brentbires499]

Forgot to mention, Gorgeous Pete.

[@msisbs3601]

Aluminum step deck. Buy one that is cross braces and guested. As strong as steel without the weight. Order one, call the manufacturer and spec it. You can even choose the amount of bow so when you load it heavy she is level. I put 86k of boulders, not over the road, uses for off shore wind power, down a private easement from delivery point to the barge area and the world’s biggest claw picked them off

[@nedstephens]

Thanks for the info. Nice.

[@johnsweet8410]

I know this post is 8 months old now, but for what it’s worth, I have a ‘91 362 “big bunk”, a kitty motor, and a 13spd. Also, I pull a rgn. My empty weight with trailer is roughly 36K. I still get float and drop deck loads all the time. Just have to be a little picky about what you get ahold of. Nice ride.

[@nedstephens]

Sounds like you have a sweet setup. Thanks for sharing.

[@michaelsorrentino9279]

Real pretty 362 there my friend!!

[@nedstephens]

Thanks a bunch. I would’ve loved to cut my teeth in a 352.

[@michaelsorrentino9279]

@@nedstephens Ya know a real sweet 352 is crazy money. 1975 352 was $27,500.

[@williamjesse8357]

Awesome truck bud ! As 46 years into and still driving and bought trucks trailers etc for yea's that isn't a bad weight, and get a good aluminum trailer, extreme makes a good lite weight trailer know a few friends that bought them and really like them...

[@nedstephens]

46 years! Wow. I bet you’re fun to talk with. Anyways, thanks for the tips and hat tip on the truck.

[@gigmaresh8772]

Owned two flat top Freightliners and one tall boy Freightliner. Almost got a Pete, but the deal went south. Great trucks - ALL ❤

[@nedstephens]

Right on. Those are great.

[@LoganJohnson-lm2bh]

Yep you stretched it and changed the balance move those fuel tanks all the way back you could also stretch the frame on the tail end so you can adjust the tail weight .If you want to go crazy after you move the fuel tanks back put a drop axle there the fuel tanks were .

[@erichouston-bo7eu]

Thats a great looking cabover bud!you right them Cummins-im a Cummins man myself-are a worķing mans motor!thats exactly right bud them old beige motors if need be u can replace 2 cylinder and a head at a time just long nuff to make nuff $ to overhaul the whole engine.cant do that with Cat or Detroits!Awesome ride bud!😎👍🏻

[@nedstephens]

Thanks buddy.

[@dangbeaudry]

I started driving back in 1971. 90 % of the trucks back then were all cabovers. I hated them. When you spent months at a time in them it was the most uncomfortable ruff riding experience I ever had.

[@nedstephens]

I have huge respect for the guys that ran in those years. I would not want to be in the cab for months at a time. My grandfather ran a cabover til he died. But you're right, several guys that I know that ran them said "Never Again". hahah.

[@TheVidPhreak]

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[@stevenjones618]

And the other advantage with cab over is keeps you smart. Super new truckers will probably never want to tailgate the trailer in front.. lol that security device is a hood that's gone... you will be the first in that trailer. First truck I drove was a 71 cabover gmc.. miss don't miss those days... lol

[@nedstephens]

That's a good one. I don't even want to flirt with anyone's backside in this thing.

[@kevinkoepke8311]

I used to carry around chains when I absolutely knew I would never use them. I came in 160lbs over in Oregon before I could weigh. Company was headquartered in Utah, so mandatory I carry them.

[@nedstephens]

Haha. Aint that something. Reminds me of a friend who carried snow chains and never left the south. Rode heavy because you just never know when you might get that hot load up north.

[@rayhughesman10]

If you're planning flatbed go with a Dorsey aluminum giant

[@nedstephens]

I’ll definitely give them a look

[@killerkane1957]

No free lunch bro. I used to own a trucking company called That’s Bullship! We used it mostly to haul our own cattle between Texas and New Mexico. Fuel went up, up, and up. With the insurance, IFTA crap, DOT nazis, etc?? Sold the trucks and groundload trailers. Then sold the New Mexico ranch. Best thing we ever did was buy that ranch. The second best thing was selling it. Roll on bro!

[@nedstephens]

You’re a rare breed. You know when to buy and know when to sell. I appreciate you sharing.

[@joetp4274]

I think it was a two axle when it was new that would explain the weight problem

[@nedstephens]

You're exactly right. Ran the VIN last month and it was a little baby truck out of factory.

[@stevenmoore2514]

Does chassis include the cab ? Unneeded options like dual exhaust add to the weight as well. Chrome don't get ya home or paid !!!! Still a very nice tractor .

[@nedstephens]

hahah. Yes chrome don't get ya home. But I did try to keep it to a minimum.

[@bradladwig9968]

My dad had one just like that

[@scotthowell3962]

Drove a78 Freightliner back in the day. It weighed just about the same. Don't know why he was surprised.

[@nedstephens]

Live and you learn. I won't be surprised next time. Its a one and done!

[@joecummings1260]

It might have started life as a short single axle. Don't feel bad my day cabs weight about 18,000 but they are somewhat heavy spec and they have wetlines and some other stuff added like big pintle hitches. Way back in the day I had an R600 Mack tandem daycab that weighed 14,500. But it was pretty stripped down, no air, no power steering, no passenger seat, etc

[@nedstephens]

I did run the VIN and you're exactly right it was a single. Sounds like you got a good setup going on.

[@karlporath8904]

Just haul up here in Michigan 160,000 lbs no permits. But you will need a few more axles (11).

[@nedstephens]

I would miss the beach too much!

[@bruceleonard81]

When you add 60 inch boxes, and straps, chains, binders bungees and so on if you buy a steel frame aluminum combo you will be right at 32,000 with an all aluminum it will be closer to 30,500. I bought a wood deck aluminum frame flatbed 1 time that was so light. My w900 could put 50,000 on the deck and go. Good luck

[@nedstephens]

Appreciate the info. With 50,000 you didn't have to spend alot of time worrying about weight. Thats great.

[@bruceleonard81]

@@nedstephens I like lighter trucks I have 2 9400 international n14 13 speeds with aluminum end dumps both my rigs are under 30,000

[@MrMan-ol4ic]

PETE C.O.E. are the heaviest out of most. I had an 84. It was 17,500 from the factory.

[@nedstephens]

Yeah that’s heavy alright. I know now. 😁

[@EarlMayers-eu3kl]

I had a 1971 cad over. 104 inch the first big bunk from. Freightliner. An I was on. Tri Line. Expressways. Out off. Calgary. Ab running to. Texas amount. Other States an. Canada loved it

[@nedstephens]

Yeah those were the days, assuming you drove that back in the day. And on that route you got to enjoy all climates!

[@bigredgreg1]

New sub here. Chances are that cabover might have had a single drive axle. Add another axle and frame extension, plus a big cam Cummins, that factory weight is not today’s reality. You live around Gulfport? I’m planning to head to Pascagoula, Biloxi, and Laurel before it gets too hot. Just an old man from TN visiting family. 👍

[@nedstephens]

You’re exactly right. It was a single axle.

[@robertoverman7697]

I have a classic Freightliner with double stacks, double air breathers, double bunks, micro, fridge, and enough cloths to last two or three months otr. I pull a 48x102 Transcraft combo with two tool boxes, chains, tarps, and all the crap needed to haul any flatbed freight. My empty weight is +/- 30,500lbs according to fuel. I can legally haul 48,000 worth of freight, but I refuse to. I make more money hauling specialized freight weighing less than 30,000. My 25 years of experience has taught me, the more it weighs, the less it pays. For example, lumber, brick, and roofing material. They max out your truck and only pay the bare minimum. I can haul two military containers around 10,000 lbs for twice the money.

[@nedstephens]

Definitely right on that. I was just taken aback by the weight difference. I hope you do well out there.

[@gatorred157]

single axle truck and 45 foot a light moving trailer was 32000 -35000 empty like add 25000 to 35000 loaded more maybe 55000 to 60000 i worked for trucking company weighting stuff! ( paid 135 a week it great pay it was crap!) in military i got maybe 1000 dollars a month in Grumman LLV maybe 1200 a month in 1992 it good pay ps today it barely buy you food!

[@robertboykin1828]

check the weight of the cab, it's mashed a few pee pole.

[@scottreed5460]

Just sold my 85 K100, drove her for 23 yrs.. sounds like you have a big cam. What’s the specs on your beautiful truck..? Thx

[@nedstephens]

I love K100's. My Grandpa drove one until the day he died - about 20 years ago now. My truck is a 1987 Peterbilt 362 with a Big Cam 4 (you got a good ear). Thanks for watching.

[@jopete681]

@@nedstephensi have a 82 359 aluminum frame daycab with big cam 3 400hp/ 13 speed 265 wheel base and my gross vehicle wight is 17,500

[@jopete681]

Nice truck!!

[@nedstephens]

That's really interesting. I would have guessed that wrong too! And I love the 359's.

[@Kaliburz]

My 77 K100, on scale, is the high 16k fueled. And it is a day cab

[@darrencatenacci2737]

Normally chassis weight is dry weight. Meaning all pieces no oil or fuel or antifreeze. Basically what the engine trans and all the pieces weigh before assembly. I think you’re going to be fine weight wise. Aluminum trailer would only put you at about 26,000 lbs then equipment maybe 27,000 you’ll still be able to do 52,000-53,000 lbs. Unless you’ve got a gig set up that you have to handle more than that.

[@nedstephens]

Yeah I think your right on it being fine for weight wise. Was surprised at the difference between sticker and scale ticket. But after doing more research I also found out this unit was a 4x2. So somewhere along the way this got another axle.

[@mario_G155]

I think the question is, how much do you like your truck? I love your truck, It seems that you like your truck. I think the aluminum/steel combination will work, but do you plan to install a headache rack?

[@ferraritoybox]

Fuel tanks etc

[@timkis64]

dont feel bad, i once drove a mack F model slabcab that weighed 15500.& it had a 237 with a 5 speed.so slow it was a road safety hazzard to trucks with a 290 cummins & fuller 10 speed.

[@nedstephens]

Haha. Depending on where you're running that could be stressful being the slow road hazzard. Will give you some thick skin if others on the road aren't too happy with ya. Good story though.

[@ccclc6159]

adding frame is about 90lbs per inch, not sure about double frame

[@gshocka1]

I heard evolution trailers can be as strong as combos

[@alexclement7221]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="30">0:30</a>: A cabover hardly weighs a LOT less than a conventional. Between low-roof double sleepers, the only extra weight a conventional has is the weight of the front clip. EVERYTHING else is there on both, in roughly the same amounts. A high-roof model on either will weigh a bit more, but most of that extra height is fiberglass, so it's not a lot. A shorter wheelbase will make the C/o a bit lighter, but your has a frame every bit as long as a regular conventional has. Also, C/O's have heavier loading on the steer axle, so you have to be careful to not overload the steers.

[@nedstephens]

You’re right. Live and learn on my end. You have a lot more knowledge on these things than I do. Impressive. Thanks for passing on the info.

[@spacecat7247]

Don't just weigh the truck once. Scales are supposed to be calibrated every month.But I see a lot of people abusing them. Scale at multiple places and compare.

[@mikehooker5714]

Nice truck! maybe it was a 4x2 before?

[@nedstephens]

Could be. Would love to have a pic of her when she arrived at the dealer brand new and all.

[@carlcarlamos9055]

If you have a regular Peterbilt dealer you patronize, they should be able to get a build sheet for you. This used to be a hard copy booklet, but now should be available in digital form. You will have to inquire. Good luck and take care.

[@timfark5649]

Consider swapping cab out for fiberglass, and go with aluminum wheels

[@nedstephens]

Maybe I’ll find some aluminums. Probably if I changed it to hub pilot. Hopefully my friends put me in a straight jacket if I whip out the fiberglass. Haha.

[@erichouston-bo7eu]

Had a 84 International 9670 Eagle 110cab air ride weighed 13,680 full of fuel 160 gal.duel tanks.240 in wheelbase.dang bud that suks its that heavy.mine had 350 low flow big cam 3 with 13spd as well.Dont understand why ur rig so heavy.

[@nedstephens]

I know. Gotta watch what I eat now. Haha.

[@iwginc2877]

Steel VS Aluminum VS fiberglass

[@marktibbetts3799]

Way ta go Einstein

[@nedstephens]

Thanks bud. Cracking me up.

[@marktibbetts3799]

@@nedstephens Just kiddin. Cabovers still are super cool lookin.

[@edwardantrobusjr2253]

Those are some big fuel tanks. Company driver here. My company runs twin 80 gallon tanks. Even empty, the tanks are heavier. Oh, and the curb weight doesn't include any fuel. Presently driving a 23 Cascadia. Full of fuel, its over 23K.

[@nedstephens]

You should have seen the tanks that were on it when I got it. Man they were huge. Tried to find a healthy balance in the middle with these tanks. 23k definitely puts you up there.

[@edwardantrobusjr2253]

@@nedstephens 23k & I pull a reefer. When I started over the road in 91, most fuel tanks were 150 gallons.

[@neilmcintosh1200]

That little bit of stretch with double frame won't be light.

[@nedstephens]

Had me shocked 😮

[@bigrollinghome2091]

beautiful truck - make it into a HDT RV :-)

[@nedstephens]

Good idea!

[@bigrollinghome2091]

@@nedstephens I'm working towards that goal myself but my truck is not as stylish! I just posted a 45 second video on my channel ... take a glance for fun :-)

[@jasonvanoss2217]

Forgive me as i haven't been watching but watch engine and trans does it have

[@nedstephens]

Hey Jason. Thanks for watching. This truck has a Big Cam IV cummins engine with a 9 speed transmission. I'll be on the look out for another transmission as I got this one for FREE and it's temporary. But for now that's how its spec'd out. Thanks again.

[@rossjohnson1872]

Rookie scratching his poh haid:

[@kmg501]

Sounds about right to me, I had a 1978 352 double bunk, as I recall it weighed about 17.5k.

[@nedstephens]

Double bunk at that. Wow. Would be nice to stretch out in something that big. haha.

[@cdl9239]

What motor a cat I'd bet my 88 362 wit Cummins 16.5

[@kmg501]

@@cdl9239 I believe it was a 3406PC.

[@cdl9239]

@@kmg501 the cat 😺 is heavier

[@kmg501]

@@cdl9239 I don't doubt it. It's been about thirty years since I've seen that truck so I wouldn't be surprised if the weight of it was heavier than I remembered.

[@cdl9239]

My 88 110 i think was 16.5 with a Cummins the motor means a lot

[@nedstephens]

Just about the same. Heavier than I thought but all in all still light I guess.

[@berhorst59]

You asdmitted it had been stretched, and double framed. That added weight. Not to mention factory weight has no driver and no fuel, none of the driver's belongings, etc.

[@fighter4christ7]

Well if you run out of fuel you’ll be close to your target weight 😂

[@nedstephens]

Haha. Comes down to that I’ll hope I can get help pushing it over the finish line!

[@svenmartin840]

If I were you I would paint the truck red and white and get a closed trailer and painted silver with the Autobot logo on the back. Because you would have Optimus Prime first generation. And you have kids and adults who watched the cartoon in 1984 like I did when I was 16. Who introduced his grandkids to the series. And I like to say this Autobots roll out!!!!!

[@nedstephens]

Oh boy. You gonna load me with a bunch of work. But it would be kind of cool.

[@ruxoneto6560]

How much fuel in tanks ??

[@nedstephens]

I had about a 100 gallons. So about half tanks!

[@mtsky-tc6uw]

running a tanker(my trucks) fleet i know everything that makes a truck weigh less--the old cab over internationals were very light,along with freight shaker cab overs--i had the lightest trucks ever put on the road--i had a few king kong peterbilts that were in the 17,800,big nose,big sleepers but i ordered them with light weight specs--had non sleepers that were 15,000 but that is about the lowest unless with tag axle,crap little motor-my trucks ran 24/7,home after most shifts ,97 percent empty coming back like most petrol tankers--now retired --

[@nedstephens]

I've not done anything tanker related. Got one fella in my yard doing food grade. Quite a few fellas I know really want to be in it. You had a fleet, wow. That's impressive. Was it a good business? Looking for good opportunities myself to do something similar. Thanks for the comment.

[@joebarnaskas]

hell....i had a K100...350 cummins ....13 speed....stock....it weighed 17500 wet,,,,,also.....i had a 1 stack mack with a window in the back....stock 300 econodyne......camel back suspsion .....that was 17400,,,,R model

[@nedstephens]

Sweet. My grandpa drove a k100 til the day he died. Never talked with him about how much it weighed, too mesmerized by all his outlaw stories. But yeah, 362 is about the same.

[@akbarshoed]

You should build your own trailer with carbon fiber frame rails. I'm surprised no one has done it yet.

[@nedstephens]

Hmmm. I'll have to look into that. Carbon fiber rails would be sweet looking.

[@robertcooper6853]

Carbon fiber would be great but it is also prohibitively expensive. Plus there’s the testing to get it certified by the government to use. The return on the investment would have to come from mass production of it afterwards and selling it.

[@akbarshoed]

@robertcooper6853 I really think carbon fiber frame rails could be extremely easy to make compared to these fancy car chassis. they would look like steel, and unless prohibited by law, I doubt it could be disallowed.

[@matthewmoilanen787]

Cab overs have zero advantages. They have terrible fuel efficiency. They are really ugly and look like driving a refrigerator box down the road. They aren't required due to removal of lenth restictions. They are dangerous in a front end collision where the cab will flop forward and kill the driver (ask me I've cleaned up the brains off the highway). There's no significant weight advantage as the tonnage you can haul is usually controlled by the amount of axles on the trailer not anything to do with the truck. They are really strange to drive with the front wheel placement and make it very difficult in slippery conditions. And most carriers won't even contract with a cabover owner/opperator. Finally in my experience insurance carriers charge more for coverage. They are a relic of a past era where lenth restrictions forced truckers to run as short of a tractor as possible to maintain trailer length and haul capacity. If they had one positive trait they wouldn't all be on the boneyard and truckers would snap them up.

[@vicpetrishak7705]

Weight Savings : All aluminum wheels Aluminum bumper Aluminum fifth wheel Weed burner exhaust Shorten frame Remove slider Super singles Aluminum axle hubs Change rear suspension Change Steer axle springs I thought the Cummins BigCam 4 engines had an all welded non serviceable after cooler .

[@nedstephens]

Manual does say to not take it apart or loosen the wrong bolts (bolts that don't connect it to the engine). I just checked it for leaks and seems to work good.

[@kingjehukhan8541]

33 years hauling flatbed, I knew that truck with full tanks and all your gear would be close to 19k lbs....weight is the name of the game flat bedding you have to get an aluminium trailer then you have boxes, tarps and chains, you should be able to hual legally when it is all said and done close to 50k on the deck.

[@nedstephens]

That’s a lot of years. Much respect to you.

[@kingjehukhan8541]

Thank you..best of luck to you

[@robertcooper6853]

Nice looking truck but it is a brick on wheels after all. Lot of steel in that thing from the factory. Then you said it’s stretched and has extra frame material. Maybe skip the flatbed idea and look at tanker. Or do what I do and sign on with a company that just hauls new/used trailers from the factories and auctions to new owners. No weight to worry about so you get much better fuel mileage and it pays about as good as, sometimes better than, hauling freight without worrying about tarps, docks, appointments, lumpers and all the other junk like that.

[@nedstephens]

That could be an interesting idea. I’ll have to look into that. Haven’t moved on anything yet. Thanks for the great tips.

[@Thultarn]

Chassis is without the cab and exhaust

[@NVMDSTEvil]

At best you are saving a couple feet of frame and weight of the hood covering the engine vs a conventional.

[@nedstephens]

Yep. Not much in weight savings. Might as well keep the nose.

[@Phillip-id9rk]

Not sure how many gallons of deasel you have but take off 180 for your weight that is 3.280 extra . Nice pete though

[@nedstephens]

Got 115 tanks and they were about half full when I weighed it. So will full tanks it would be about 700-800 lbs heavier.

[@Phillip-id9rk]

@@nedstephens that's 800 lbs of fuel and add your weight about 1.000 lbs

[@brentbires499]

Get lowboy transcript 3axle! Brother in law owns approx. 50, that he rents to verizon with the stone-faced prefab buildings that are hauled & rented for these buildings (50,000lb at min.) Would that be an answer for you? I know he has hauled some 110,000lb prefabs on them.

[@nedstephens]

That's a very interesting idea. I'm going to look into that. Buying lowboys would be fine with me for sure. Good to run into fellas doing well out there in current environment. Thanks a bunch for passing on the knowledge.

[@brentbires499]

Works great for the brother in law. His company has hauled, set the buildings since 1984 for verizon cellsites. You have the height, they're great to work with, he always bought Transcraft trailers. They trail beautifully. Good luck!!

[@brentbires499]

I wish I new how to put a pic of a few new trailers (that came stacked), from my gallery and send to you comment section. He has everything I can think of on those trailers. Alot nicer if you have arthritis also.

[@brentbires499]

Sorry, I meant a " drop deck" 53' triaxle trailer. Transcraft makes very nice ones.

[@brocluno01]

So back in the day when I was hauling Petro our all up empty weight goal was 25,000 for truck (3-axle) and pull trailer. We were still under "bridge formula". I had a 63 Pete needle nose all aluminum cab and hood kit on '53 Autocar aluminum frame rails. Single drive w tag axle on Page & Page aluminum walking beam suspension. 290 Cummins and 5 & 4 boxes. No front brakes. Aluminum front axle, semi center point, no power steering. No A/C. No sleeper. All aluminum wheels, etc. PTO pump for transfers. 24,945 fueled and tooled. So I could haul 51,000'ish in liquid cargo. You want light? Older cab over Freightliner narrow bunk, w aluminum frame and front axle. If 3-axle, no front brakes. And don't overpower the frame or it'll twist and crack. 350HP max. 6V92 is a good choice for a short light weight engine. RTO 910 and single drive good, unless off pavement work, then dual drive w posi in the rear rear. Light weight is not easy to get, but it pays off 😊

[@nedstephens]

I would have loved to take a ride in that needle nose. I'm not too worried about being real light right now, I was just so surprised at how heavy it ended up being. Had to eat my words from joking around with fellas in my shop. But if I do something real light wow you got the formula. I do get nervous with aluminum frames. Hopefully at that time I would find someone experienced like you to bounce stuff off. Thanks a bunch.

[@brocluno01]

Don't worry about the aluminum frame as long as you can find a good one w no cracks. My frame rails had lived one whole life as an Autocar, and then another under a Pete kit. Couple of things that help. When they bolt in the crossmembers, make sure they use thick chamfered washers against the aluminum, stainless if you can get them. And that Page & Page aluminum walking beam suspension really helps. Rough roads can crack things, but good riding rear suspension really helps. If air ride, go long bag. Taper leaf fron springs do too. Lastly keep the power reasonable. No need to be torqueing up the frame on every gear change. I'd be real happy with a 6V92 at 435 HP. They'll haul you over mountains OK, but they have a softer TQ curve down low so they don't hit the frame very hard 😊

[@NvTwist]

Perhaps it’s time someone builds an all CarbonFiber Peterbuilt 😳 you could the first👍🏼

[@nedstephens]

Oh Lord have mercy. If I do that it’s probably time to have me locked up.

[@NvTwist]

@@nedstephens yeah it’s a fine line between a lunatic and a visionary.

[@brucecranmore8607]

8500 lbs for the bogies 5000 lbs eng trans then cab frame etc I see it sure

[@shanegaree101]

It’s a driveway meaning not a whole lot of fluids

[@the.porter.productions]

O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸. Cabovers Rule! I’m a bit shocked on its weight. My brother had a 362 with a Cat & automatic. It was a bit heavier & then we added a toolbox at the rear of the frame. He had a combo trailer & an air ride van and we really had NO probs at all with what we hauled. I assume you have a Cummins? If you’re going for a used trailer I would go the combo route. I’m sure you will look any trailer over from top to bottom. I come from a trucking family & we’ve had a good variety of trucks over the years. Love the truck, my friend! Keep On Truckin! Blessings.🥰🤩✌️

[@nedstephens]

Thanks for the awesome comments. I would like to have driven that Cat with the automatic. I wonder how smooth it was. Very sweet.

[@the.porter.productions]

@@nedstephens 🇺🇸 My brother was running out west quite frequently & it was so smooth. He wasn’t sure what it would be like, since it was his 1st automatic, but it handled his 1st Colorado run very well. It turned out to be one of his most favorite trucks & one that he regretted selling. Enjoy the ride my friend! Awesome truck!🥰😎✌️

[@jeffthompson9887]

I run a 4 axle daycab, TARE weight is a hair shy of 27000lbs. Throw a 14000lb 48' quad flatbed behind me, and I can still load 98000lbs and stay legal in Canada (Ontario and Quebec).

[@nedstephens]

That's quite a setup. Big dog stuff. Sounds like fun for sure.

[@jeffthompson9887]

@nedstephens It does the job. My truck was built for heavy haul applications, grossing 240000+lbs. It can't haul crap when I take it into the US without permits...

[@DeeDee-il4cd]

22000 lbs

[@grandpafalkenrath2988]

Hilarious, have you ever actually trucked?

[@nedstephens]

Haha. I’ll admit it, I deserve that one.

[@michealgrover9057]

It depend on what u are going to haul dont go over 45000 lb

[@TorturedPeace]

The chassis didn’t have your ego in the cab… I believe it! Find another driver, probably won’t weigh that much!

[@nedstephens]

Hahaha. Yeah that’s gotta be it!

[@TorturedPeace]

@@nedstephens good attitude! 😛

[@ronwilliams266]

Remember, they probably weighed it without fuel . Also tell yout customers that it will cost them a $ 100. More for every 10 lbs over .

[@nedstephens]

I like that. More money more weight.

[@ronwilliams266]

@nedstephens The company I work for we weigh ours avery year, but they top off to get a tair weight / cab card. The one I drive 13.348 lbs.

[@2fuzy]

Paccar has always lied on the tag My buddy bought his dream truck 379 c-16 18spd a dinner in the bunk the tag said 18.5k the scale said 24k

[@nedstephens]

Wow. That's way off. Good info. Thanks.

[@301trucking]

I have an idea.. could just sell me that nice truck lol

[@nedstephens]

Good things often start with good ideas!

[@kirtturner1390]

That's a lot of front axle weight empty 😳. Max front axle weight is 12,000 . Better make sure your 5th wheel is set way back on the tandems

[@nedstephens]

You ain't lying. Bit of a fat girl on the front end.

[@michaelsorrentino9279]

Cut my teeth on a 352 w/cummins/13spd.

[@danielhofer7386]

The weight on the plate would have been within 300 lbs. of what it said it was. You have a truck that is not original & many things have been changed. Believe me I have ordered new trucks & owned several Peterbilt's, they ARE NOT that FAR OFF.

[@nedstephens]

Yeah definitely changed over the years. Found out it came out of factory as a single and later cutoff added the extra axle. Glad you said that about weight accuracy. I won’t be afraid to use it going forward on other trucks.

[@RA-II]

Fuel weight

[@user-vi9ud4hh1n]

Surprise...Cabover Petes have always been heavy. Everyone I ran with that had them complained about how heavy thay were. I had a 74' IH 4070B Transtar ll, W/Detroit 8V-71T and a RT9513. Pulling a 81' Wilson 40' hopper bottom trailer. It weighed 24, 980 lbs. w/150 gals. of fuel on. We were local . We didn't need to carry more. A guy we ran with had a 75 Pete 352 single bunk w/350 Cummins also with the RT9513. Both with spring ride. I had spokes on the rear. He had steel disc on the rear. Both w/ aluminums on the front. Both had 22.5 fabric tires. He had the same model trailer as mine. Yet, His unit weighed 27, 560 lbs. He did have 160 gals. of fuel capacity, 10 more than me. We thought it was from the disc wheels. But, no matter what, That didn't add 2000 lbs. Nice to see young guys taking an interest in the cabovers. I spent most all of my carrer in them.

[@nedstephens]

Wow. That’s really good stuff. Could listen to stories like that all day. Thanks for sharing.

[@Dannyboy-ju5ws]

It’s probably without the cab only

[@nedstephens]

You might be right. I don't know.

[@brentbires499]

My son in law drives a conventional. He says the sleepers add 2,000lbs...

[@michelorphey5227]

Haul livestock. You can adjust them.

[@nedstephens]

I think that would be fun. Don’t have any buddies doing it and I’ve never done it. Might need to make buddies with some guys doing it.

[@michelorphey5227]

@@nedstephens yea, it’s more work than people think. But I’ve known guys that will only haul cattle. When you drive, you drive.

[@johnbuck6685]

I’d rather pay the fine than have to drive one of those cab over pieces of crap