I Will Now Rant About the Horrible State of GTA Online Money Making

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GTA Online Rant

[@TGG_]

PSA: If you see this as mindless complaining then that’s up to you! Videos like this are the ones Rockstar might actually see. If we don’t point out issues the game can’t get improved. I mean no harm to Rockstar, I respect their development team. I make videos like this because these are more likely to get Rockstars attention. Peace & love y’all ✌️

[@banksy6027]

U hit the nail on the head bro 👍 they need two sort it out! It's like it's all rigged two force u in2 buying online money! 👍💯

[@DoorManGaming]

I completely agree

[@202designated7]

Brooo those freaking sea planes is the only reason I hate selling out my mc’s!! Like who Tf is tryna sit & fly that slow shit ALL OVER THE MAP FOR ONLY A COUPLE 100K?! Rockstar Trippin Slim 💯

[@inmatestench7750]

Nah I agree with what your saying bro, the gta community is something special though. Most of us will agree while the other percentage will just suck up to rockstar and say there’s nothing wrong.

[@mpd9089]

i agree with everything and i cant tell you how many millions ive lost blowing up my own deiveries. i get ALL of my money from cayo and nightclub (both i find to be genuinely fun and financially lucrative) and just customize cool vehicles and pvp friends. the only thing i use my businesses for is keeping them at half stock to boost my nightclub warehouse

[@safety5261]

My biggest issue with the missions when you are by yourself selling in private lobbies is when AI enemies chase you in much faster vehicles and they have god mode aim and even if you have body armor it’s goes away within a second plus you’re in a slow vehicle that my grandmother with a swollen knee could out HOP!!

[@e-manyvelez7430]

I agree when i bought the cargo warehouse it was terrible when i got a mission that would require me to take out enemies miles apart or have to take down certain vehicles the game basically punishes you for not owning an opresspor

[@dusathemaid]

The entirety of GTA V's gameplay feels like you are controlling a ragdoll and the NPCs are controlling The Division Agents. Everything is so sluggish

[@Eljace007]

Man i get so aggravated.

[@lilwoo305]

bro Deadass worse then the AI on DMZ mw2 like ayo wtf mannn

[@marcapouli7805]

@@lilwoo305 bro blw you htp mc bbqd asap asmr bro the PCV and GTH

[@alienkeagster2443]

Rockstar used to have duffel bag missions, where you would either deliver to one location, racing to see who would get there first, or go to different locations using any vehicle you wanted. These missions were removed simply because people were glitching the duffel bags on to their outfits. Completely ridiculous

[@ivanl4380]

Typical for Rockstar fixing or removing harmless and fun glitches instead of actual problematic ones.

[@Lexor888]

I don't think they removed it because people glitched the duffel bag... there's still missions in the auto shop that give you one.

[@c.h.u.d]

I see some players using personal vehicles like mk2 oppressors to deliver cargo I still don't know how they do it.i gotta look it up

[@slimdarcy9503]

Not correct. It had to do with a conflict of the casino heist. You can look this up

[@CmonWTFdie]

@@c.h.u.d those are resupply missions

[@brady9303]

I also hate how expensive everything is. In the early days of gta a million dollars could get you so much but now it can barely get you anything. I’ve seen masks that costs 10’s of thousands of dollars which makes absolutely no sense. They make pricing a barrier so that more people purchase shark cards

[@jemezzzzz]

a million dollars is now a casual upgrade for a business. So stupid

[@Fck_the_atf]

Yeah thats why gta6 online will be absolutely horrific. Gta6 (hopefully) will have an amazing single player but hold no explanations for the online.

[@chickennooget8051]

That's why I shut my cocaine lockup down for a while before buying the nightclub and only sell through the nightclub because the sell missions are horrific. Also, I don't even have the words to describe how angry it makes me that Rockstar literally encourages for other players to destroy somebody's product even though Rockstar knows damn well how time consuming and expensive it is to own a business and how much work it takes to sell it. Good on you for making a video that Rockstar will probably see and take notice of.

[@chucknorris2418]

And for what? 2k gta cash. You'd actually get more money helping people sell.

[@no_u_420]

Rockstar doesn’t care because they want people to cave from the stress and use their “micro-transactions for money” nonsense. That’s one of the reasons they have it on the map with a bounty. It’s sad that it works so well for them too so I don’t ever see it getting changed.

[@allopic3764]

Now that you can sell to street dealers it’s way better: you get up to 200k a day just selling tiny quantities, and if you don’t buy supplies you also get the full profit: it’s gonna take a while to gain back all the money invested in upgrading them, but it is what it is.

[@Devious90210]

Completely agree with you on this. Hopefully someone with the ability to make decisions rockstar sees this video and decides to make a change. However, I think this is unlikely due to the fact that rockstar is aware that these missions are the most mind-numbing, tedious activities you can do. If they made them quick and fun then there would be pretty much no incentive to buy shark cards anymore which is literally all R* care about.

[@wavy10k]

disagree, u put in the work, u get the reward, that’s how it works. but i do think that businesses should be with 1 or 2 vehicles, not 3, especially as a solo player.

[@derslicerdeicer341]

I disagree, they should remain like they are. But include more missions so you don't get the same one all the time

[@Devious90210]

@@wavy10k Dude, it's a game. Games are supposed to be *fun*. Who wants to come back from a long day of work or studying and feel like they're clocking into their part time job as a virtual Amazon delivery driver? Think for a second and be reasonable before giving the worst takes humaly possible.

[@flux3238]

Shark cards for me are obsolete since i can just run contracts for easy money

[@Spielername]

I actually doesn't do any sale missions anymore. Everytime I did one of these "well thought out sale missions", I was asking myself how the person responsible for them can even live with him/herself. I stopped doing them when I saw that everytime I did one of those, my angry-meter were filling up rapidly and I somehow started to hate everything and anything. I decided that it's not worth to pay with my mental health so I stopped doing them entirely. The only reason I have the businesses nowadays is because... well, I bought them but at least they are filling up my club storage.

[@jeanttbs]

You know what would make this 10 times more fun and would be easy to implement? Make the delivery vehicles immune to explosives. Instead of having players grief you for no reason, they would need to kill you and then deliver the vehicle themselves to steal your profit. That would still leave the original MC (and their friends) a chance to steal it back and deliver it before the griefers do. And make the bonus for doing it in a lobby like 40% so it would become a high risk high reward type of thing.

[@birdman4386]

I personally expected this to be the case on my very first perspective of these businesses about 7-8 years ago when warehouses was the very first business published. A lot of current griefers are offsprings of the very first of griefers from that time. “Seeing some guy do cargo? Fuck that imma blow that up, someone killed me during my cargo, so imma kill this other guy to deny his cargo”

[@Prplex.]

I think making it so you can't lock on to the delivery vehicles would be good because any old bum can fire a few homing missiles while you're defenseless

[@mfirdanhb]

well rockstar got one thing right from you

[@isaacmatthews3714]

@@mfirdanhbyeah gotta say there’s a 2% bonus per player in a lobby you sell in, I sold in a full lobby and got an extra 60% of the original value thank god I only had 1 vehicle

[@christiansepulveda4339]

I remember when I destroyed someone's cargo once. They had been killing me all game and I couldn’t do anything about it since they had the best weapons and weaponized vehicles. I hid away in my apartment until I saw that they were selling MC cargo. I quickly made my way to Fort Zancudo, paid Lester for the cops to ignore me, stole a Lazer, and then gunned him down. I was expecting a significant payout, because the notifications always said “Destroy their cargo to get money, Rp, and ammo” and because people always destroyed my cargo in the past I assumed it was a good payout. All I got was $2000 and 500Rp. If R* made destroying or stealing their product worth it, like getting just as much for selling it yourself, or half for destroying it, then I would understand why people destroy other peoples cargo.

[@VIsTheMusic]

These long drawn out mind numbing missions and those longer cut scenes are their strategy to entice shark card sales and GTA + subscriptions. The longer you spend around the map and in the game, the more you want to have things to play with. It's a toy store.

[@pentiummmx2294]

Its all part of Rockstar and Take-Two's greedy predatory business practices. I have lost hope for rockstar, they transformed GTA Online into a huge pay to win broken griefer filled abomination that is super grindy that any sane person would just throw in the towel and quit playing.

[@toxickidd7944]

Wit everything being added now u can’t even say this the case nomore cus now they juss end up making the most repulsive lookin vehicles n proceeds to make it cost more than yo life

[@GhillieMaster]

I said after the recent Summer Update that it was a missed opportunity to not remove some of the more annoying sell missions and make some new ones. Would have brought some fresh air to the MC businesses which I haven’t done for years because of how boring they are

[@NFSBeast2365]

True.

[@MasterObio]

Cap. You was riding rockstar thanking them for nerfing Cayo. We ain’t forget.

[@GhillieMaster]

@@MasterObio What does my comment have to do with cayo? I didn't mention that once lmao. Im talking about making other content fun.

[@iareolmedo7838]

@@GhillieMaster tru and its not like being against mindlessly doing the same heist over and over again is contradicting to being agaist the mc business boring ass sell missions

[@54545flipperdipper]

@@GhillieMaster lies

[@josephkasal8180]

As someone who started next gen with the night club and then did the Mc businesses, I got to a point where it felt like I had a second job in gta. It would take hours to complete all the sell missions. I’d then go afk and wait for them to reach full supply. I got so bored. Finally I got the kosatka and haven’t touched the Mc businesses again.

[@vood00ranger]

@HLM How? Unless you're preying on children who don't know any better there is literally no reason to pay you money.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

It still pays out to have the MC but only to be able to buy places like the meth lab, forgery, money laundry or weed farm since you can use this for your Nightclub to produce goods to sell. Same with your Bunker that is being used for weapon sales that are added to your Nightclub if you assign a technician to it. It pays out so nicely since you can do nightclub sales all on your own with ONE Vehicle. Sometimes even just ONE drop. And the Nightclub with full popularity bars actually gets you a daily income of up to 50k. So after 3 Ingame days you have about 150-170k in your safe as passive income.

[@WiIIim]

@@vood00ranger he isn't actually making any money, he's just trying to get recognition in the comments

[@DedAlexFive]

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Is this supposed to make GTA Online funnier lol

[@colttaylor8729]

@HLM 😂😂 L bozo

[@jomanpro5352]

My issue is how often these businesses get raided. If they take out this feature, then I wouldn’t mind the sell missions

[@osanakoma366]

buy 1 supply for your MC businesses (coke, meth, etc.) Let that product sit in there & never mess with it again (1 supply = no raid). Go CEO and sell through Nightclub. Your MC businesses will generate for the nightclub infinitly & nightclub = 1 sale vehicle. Same works for CEO crate warehouse & Bunker weapon manufacturing. EDIT; You don't even need stock in the businesses. You just need to OWN them, & have them "open" not "shut down". So don't buy any upgrades, just get the cheapest MC businesses. Which means fully upgrade Nightclub and this is the new way to sell MC product. Wish I knew this earlier :/

[@AsianTacoFeet]

@@osanakoma366 The nightclub’s warehouse profits off of the mc businesses, but youre not selling the product from those mc businesses. It’s a whole different product so you can sell both the products from night club and the mc businesses

[@tyronejones3256]

i get raided maybe twice a year??.. and i play everyday. i think it has something to do with buying security on every single MC business i own, even tho i no longer use my weed, or docu Business's. i just use meth and coke. another factor idk might be the fact that my nightclub also is 100% popular at all times idk.. i just never actually get raided. thats even sitting in MC all the time. because i forget that i am in it. and not securo serv. lol xD

[@PlanetLinuxChannel]

This is one area that the new Acid Lab actually does quite well. It’s always one vehicle regardless of sale size and while you can’t choose which vehicle, you can upgrade the one it uses to make it better and look how you want.

[@kevinschulze5258]

Imagine still having hope that rockstar will do anything about any problem

[@olliegoria]

Unless it involves money or outfits, Rockstar won't bat an eye.

[@markreyes7454]

Well, they did release the Criminal Enterprises update which was basically an update for all of the businesses. So, that's something, lol.

[@Redditor6079]

Just download a mod and give yourself money. It's not worth playing GTA5 fair.

[@pedroabumanssur976]

RIGHT ? After 10 years people still believe Rockstar is going to one day suddently go ''Huh im going to fix the game for the fans''; Its just never going to happen I cant imagine enduring a piece of shit game like gta online and the bad decision after bad decision this company does I only really watch those videos to laugh at those still left, trapped and suffering Trust me guys leave this game behind; Its going to be the best thing gaming wise you will ever do; I speak for experience

[@Patkilla7558]

I like the idea of them allowing you to upgrade the potential sell vehicles. They already allow us something similar for the special cargo missions, where you can upgrade the cuban with countermeasures, or make the tugboat faster, and add armor to the truck.

[@yourmom2819]

Nah like having to spend an extra 1.3 mil after already spending 5 million bs game

[@chriscarpenter3370]

I bought all those upgrades when I started my cargo business.

[@onyx5604]

Yeah but not the capacity, then again sometimes it gives you 1 sell vehicle like the tugboat or pounder but that's easy compared to the post up vans which are a complete pain in the ass. I just blow them up when I get 3 of those sell vehicles because it's impossible to sell solo unless you have a business near LS.

[@NFSBeast2365]

@@chriscarpenter3370 shark cards? SMH😂

[@devinsplaylist7]

I agree completely. I was so damn disappointed when I bought these businesses and started running sell missions. I’d rather just play regular missions even with the small payout. I’m not buying shark cards either.

[@ronindeathx8051]

i just spam the auto shop contract missions...those are fun and easy money in less time

[@magik1181]

I make most of my money in the casino, about 1.5 mill an hour.

[@cxsh4x4]

@@magik1181 how?

[@magik1181]

@@cxsh4x4 you bet the max amount of money on one of the games, if you win change your outfit so the game will save, and if you lose immediately close out of the application so you won't lose your money and of course if you have the penthouse you can bet up to 50,000. Also set your spawn location to the penthouse( I choose Blackjack cuz the bet cap is high and I'm good at it) and imo the best way to play Blackjack is if you get 6-16 Double Down, the exception is if you get 16 and the dealer has an ace u stand. If you get 17 or above stand.

[@cxsh4x4]

@@magik1181 Thsnk you

[@lfla0179]

I did the 201 Franklin missions for the 20k passive. There is no popularity associated with the Contract Agency, so that money drips in, no matter what I do. On the other hand, 50k and raising a notch on the popularity bar just for tossing a troublemaker out of my nightclub is a godsend. Driving VIPs to rehab or a hospital isn't particularly boring as driving an OP van uphill in the snow season.

[@emanuelrayvillaflores7759]

You're completely right, I've always thought "why can't they make the nightclub sell mission system work with other businesses"

[@stefankostov8720]

They can but they are clueless

[@emanuelrayvillaflores7759]

@@stefankostov8720 It's like they have only 2 puzzle pieces and still can't put the 2 together

[@stefankostov8720]

@@emanuelrayvillaflores7759 well said

[@--Kenny-]

That would be great

[@ThatIsDopeBro]

It literally does tho? What do you think you're selling at the nightclub?

[@Fallub]

I agree, Rockstar should make all sell missions equivavalent to the Nightclub selling with only one vehicle. That might even make these missions more valuable since it takes less time to complete.

[@stuarthough8440]

make u pay a specific fee for what delivery vehicle u wanna use to make the sale that would b better

[@brian_sipe]

Putting the same toolbox mechanic into the clubhouse as they have implemented in the warehouses would be a simple enough fix, so that you can boost the stats on your various sale vehicles.

[@PowuhToSeven]

I agree with you on this for so many different levels especially when someone is streaming those cell missions are basically dead air.

[@siemenvanderkamp897]

Totally agree with you. I haven't resupplied my MC businesses since the Nightclub came out. They're just sitting there empty in order for the Nightclub to produce. I do sell my bunker, those sell missions are fun to do and don't take that long.

[@DdDd-ly7fp]

Solo? How do you keep up

[@ppppppp11111]

@@DdDd-ly7fp The trick with the bunker is that you buy 1 resupply at 75k, then let that produce your product, then sell that for 210k, netting you 135k profit per. The product bar is then not quite 1/4 the way through, guaranteeing 1 sell vehicle only. So sell that stuff on your own, and do not forget to buy a resupply before selling your previous batch. The only business with a full product bar bonus is the crate warehouse, so the same trick could also apply to MC businesses as well.

[@DdDd-ly7fp]

@@ppppppp11111 ty

[@prashants5226]

I still avoid the Dune FAV bunker sell missions like the plague

[@ppppppp11111]

@@prashants5226 Could be worse: Agent 14 could've sent you on in the Marshalls.😀And that it's raining.

[@TnzAssassin360]

I’m so glad you did this video because I thought I was the only one who stopped selling my other businesses including mc. It’s just not worth it money wise and how long they take. Not to mention how boring they are! All my mc businesses are full and I have no motivation to sell them so I hope rockstar addresses this in the near future. But one thing I truly hate are the raids, they’re just tedious and annoying!

[@GallowsBound1]

I stopped doing anything with my MC businesses. I could be wrong, but I think if you sell your stock you won't get raided.

[@kiasms22]

@@GallowsBound1 yeah you won’t get raided cause there’s nothing to raid. but it’s still annoying how we pay for the security upgrade yet still get raided. like what are the security cameras and guard for then

[@shadowagent6051]

@@kiasms22 ,Can you imagine getting raid even if you have nothing to get raid,get there quicky and you get 4 stars,the game set you up for the feds,daaaaaaaaaamn I hope R* don't read this comment,should I delete it? 🤣

[@stefankostov8720]

They wont change anything last dlc was focused on managing the payouts of the mc activities and other activities so they actually have a purpose, well rockstar failed that; how unexpected, so dont expect an update connected to businesses until 10 years after gta 8 releases

[@x534n01]

@@kiasms22 i think the security upgrade just lengthens the time before a raid happens.

[@sharkbiscuitt]

I agree with you. I hate when I buy supplies and wait to sell. When I am ready to sell almost all the time I’ll get 2 vehicles. They need to do what you said in this video. Allow us to customise the vehicles. Add a bi-property (free with the first MC Businesses you but) which stores all the vehicles you may use and you can upgrade them to how you want them. I barely use MC Businesses and instead sell my bunker when I grind.

[@celestialeffigy4382]

I love when im selling my mc stuff, and im in a lobby by myself and out of nowhere one of the vehicles says it got destroyed. When im the only person in the lobby and on the other side of the map. Its even better when you are already ten mins into the mission.

[@alexanderjones9440]

One of the good things about these low intensity sell missions is you can sit back and listen to podcasts or music to pass the time

[@ShaunTheDonJon]

I genuinely fall asleep selling MC businesses on a frequent basis. They're a great alternative to sleeping pills.

[@secretformulaaleks346]

Then sell them all at the same time through your nightclub bozo, more efficient and a lot faster than selling each business individually

[@AyoDusk]

this needed to be said. The fact that you were the one to do it is great. On top of that u have alot of people supporting what your saying so hopefully some sort of rockstar dev is watching this. AND theres no excuse not be, as you have over 1m subs... thats just a bigger reason for them to change because even their biggest content creators are feeling this way so props for you doing this. XD

[@evigkrieger]

Last I recall practicing Cayo to do it as fast as possible I got the whole thing done in 26 minutes iirc while using the pegasi to land on my submarine and go from setup to setup and working out a no variables need considering run of the heist itself, I probably spend more time flying the plane to the transition point than I do for the actual robbery

[@darrenl3289]

Hallelujah. My situation: I completely stopped playing GTA about 5 years ago from boredom. About a month ago, after watching a few of your and HarmNone's videos, I decided to check out the added content. As I built up money and bought all the new businesses, I noticed immediately how ridiculous the MC content was. Let me add to the list of frustrations: Playing solo, you HAVE to take the lesser sell option and use the nearer destination or you risk not only using the entire 30 minutes but it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to complete the sale. I had MC businesses in Blaine County and early on tried to sell to Los Santos for a nice profit margin. Imagine my anger when I get Postal delivery trucks that can barely go up any hill and I have to try to drive THREE of them from Grapeseed to a total of FIFTEEN locations all the way across the map. Next: The planes/helos deliveries. I have literally fallen asleep while playing three times doing those sale missions. NO EXAGGERATION. I woke up to the sound of me crashing into a bridge and dying on one lol The boats are just as bad too. "Hey we moved your contraband to these planes/helos/boats but no we couldn't just deliver them ourselves to the actual delivery. We just moved them away from your warehouse so you have to now waste limited time getting to them so you can move them again. DURRRRRRRRRR. Twice I had three businesses get raided/attacked back to back to back. Once without and once with upgraded security on all of them. The stupidity built in makes ZERO sense. "Hey i'm gonna deliver these drugs so I will make myself go to the same spot three separate times cuz I am a clever criminal. I won't even let myself know how I'm gonna do it before hand, let alone choose how to do it myself, even though I AM THE HEAD OF THE ORGANIZATION." Here is a fun one you might have missed: During the Halloween event, I tired to do a meth sale and it made me do a helicopter delivery... at night. with the city cluttered with UFO's that cause vehicles to die when you get too close. GUESS WHERE THE DELIVERY POINTS WERE. Yep, helo insta die and dropped like a rock into a building. Dead, failed, done. The whole resupplying is stupid. Either waste over 100k or waste 30 minutes doing two steal supplies missions because it's impossible to imagine having a 2nd in command to organize a supply run, despite having a guy constantly call8ing to tell you who got raided or the details of a buy/sell mission. Add the auto shop delivery system to the list too. Rockstar thinks the head of a criminal organization would keep employees around that can't manage to drive a car without getting in a wreck EVERY TIME? Come on!!! Finally, add one version of the bunker sale. Playing solo I got three APC's that all had to be at each drop point together to trigger a brief firefight before letting you move to the next drop point. Start driving from the bunker on the west side, below chumash and first stop? Madrazzo's house... Try going back and forth three times just to that first drop point. Then look how much time out of 30 minutes you used. IMPOSSIBLE solo I doubt they will fix anything at this point, so we can only hope they will learn from this for the next game.

[@ocdgifgandalf3352]

Yep. After 3 back to back raids, narcolepsy/impossible sell missions, the only MC business I still operate is the bunker. Purely for Weapon research unlocks. I quickly figured out the cash factory is barely profitable. In fact none, including Coke seem to be profitable unless you drop the 2nd million on the BS upgrades to increase production quality and capacity. Abandoned Coke, weed and meth after raids. Boring AF. waste of time. And yes, certainly not holding my breath for Cockle starfish to address these major issues. If they actually looked at the user activity log metrics they would easily be able to see the actual ongoing usage rates of these businesses is abysmal. Coz day sock arse!

[@scottskinner577]

They designed them where you need help. But there's no incentive to help. Especially when they started selling people on the idea of INSTANTLY being a CEO when they enter the game. So, where's the structure to "worl your way up the ladder"? Makes no damn sense. Talking out of both sides of their mouth

[@NailStrafer]

When it comes to selling with planes, you need to touch the controller so little there have been times where I've been able to get up, warm up something for lunch, and eat it over the course of that mission XD

[@scottskinner577]

@@NailStrafer Fair enough. Now try that on Cayo Perico lol

[@NailStrafer]

@@scottskinner577 Haha, you say that, but there are a few unskippable cutscenes in Cayo that are just long enough to get up and put something in the microwave :P

[@buckrichard9833]

I agree with you, the slowest vehicles always seem to be the one's I get. I only play in invite only lobbies, it was impossible to do anything in regular lobbies. Everytime I tried selling anything or doing a heist I was attacked either by griefers or my fellow heist members. Another thing that pisses me off with the MC Businesses is that while you are doing resupply missions for the bar or doing customer bike missions your businesses get raided & you don't even know it , it's also happened a few times when I'm doing business sales, I'll be selling one business & another one is being raided, you end up losing your product & your money. I doubt their going to change anything, once GTA6 comes out their not going to give GTA5 anything else, their just going to abandon all of the players who can't afford the next generation consoles.

[@westhamaremassive8099]

I agree with you but I don’t if you can’t afford the new console by now that’s a you problem I bought a ps5 two years ago for 1100 pounds. If you want it work for it don’t complain whilst you make virtual money instead of real money

[@Matterz25]

Lmao it’s only $450 or $500, it’s been 2 years maybe instead of grinding gta, get a job?

[@DanRedReddington]

Funny to assume he doesnt earn enough to actually buy a ps5. Some ppl just have other prioryties than spending 500-1k to buy/afford a "overpriced" gaming console. nun wrong about it so atp im not sure who is "complaining" about a real issue or not. The likes on the comments obviously show what issue is more of inmportance. 😅

[@GallowsBound1]

@@westhamaremassive8099 most Americans can't afford a $400 emergency, much less a $500 video game console. That doesn't mean we don't have jobs, but rather we have more important priorities.

[@kiasms22]

@@Matterz25 most of us can’t afford $450-500 on a new gaming console. we have jobs, but also priorities.

[@talesfromcastleravenscar3624]

Couldn't agree more! I often found that it's an MC business but there is only one motorbike mission!

[@seanoreilly9950]

the other day my businesses glitched and each time i tried to do a sell mission 100k in product just disappeared and i got stuck in a black loading screen

[@curunduraj]

Agree 100%. I've essentially stopped doing MC business sell missions for the same reasons you highlighted. Now I just buy special cargo at my warehouse and let my nightclub warehouse fill up and then sell. Good video! I hope RS sees it.

[@Poke-ladd]

I do wish you could choose what method to sell eg picking a helicopter but if you constantly use it there’s a high chance the police will ambush you but also I usually try to get the maximum amount of money for 1 vehicle which is kind of hard to get right sometimes

[@ZMondoHype]

Loved this rant. When I get post op van or garbage truck, I immediately find a new lobby and take the hit. But I’m also in the same boat - no more MC sells for me unless it’s double money. The bunker is still alright on the other hand (except the merryweather sell mission)

[@matthewsmith3902]

Definitely well agreed. The only reason I still own the MC businesses (and have them "open" as you have to) is so that the nightclub accumulates products. Otherwise these would have been sold off or just shut down a very long time ago

[@fernandomata5277]

Completely agree!! I spent over 2 hrs trying to sell or defend my product because I started to play again after 1 year, and it was boring!!!! With so many things to do now, I will never sell MC businesses again because of the little payout and the time it takes to complete. I am a solo player and never found 3 players to help me because of the little free time I have to play the actual game... Great video pointing out a bit of pain for solo players

[@DdDd-ly7fp]

Wanna play together?

[@bouttabag_hex3209]

@@DdDd-ly7fp he doesn’t

[@DdDd-ly7fp]

@@bouttabag_hex3209 do you?

[@medic_real]

@@DdDd-ly7fp i wanna play

[@MrDeeds007]

@@medic_real invite me

[@ivantheterrible9087]

I got beaten in tennis by my cousin in the sasquash suit and anytime I feel an inkling of joy I will look back at the time I lost to a monkey in tennis😅😅😅

[@klimaxkid]

It’s that aiai dna lol

[@Hugo_1]

Time to help fill up his CEO crates and grief it to assert dominance

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

@@Hugo_1 I destroyed tggs cargo and he left afterward. I laughed all night.

[@Cosmik60]

@@Hugo_1 ok Satan

[@PomegranateJuiceSmoothie]

@@III1IlIIlIllIl so cap bro 😭

[@Fenlandia]

The only time I do anything with my MC businesses is when the Nightclub borks and I redo setups to kickstart it again.

[@Daveo3]

Depending on your luck, the Cayo Perico heist can take 45 minutes at most from Scoping out to doing the actual heist, scoping out takes a rough 10 minutes depending on whether or not you luck out with the side loot, the costumes, and/or the supply truck at the airfield, or even the chance of the double paintings in El Rubio's office 2 minutes on the Airfield scope out, 5 minutes on the drive up to the tower, and 2-3 minutes on the cameras to see the target and if there's any loot in the office worth taking outside of the side 50k in the wall safe 15-20 minutes on prep max, easiest one is the velum, go up to sandy, easy enough with the fast travel or the sparrow, fly it to the airfield, weapon prep is like, 5 minute minimum, as long as you spawn the Sub near the Merrywether docks, 9 times out of 10 you'll get forced to fly to the office towers rather than the annoying as fuck follow mission Blow torch and fingerprint scanner are piss easy, and the safe code/Plasma Cutter should take the spare 5 minutes with a helicopter The heist itself basically averages out at 10-15 minutes because everyone with half a brain is going for the elite challenge

[@Awaylolzao]

One thing that would change sell missions a lot is adding jammers (like amani tech) to the vehicles. Its simple and griefers would need some skill to destroy the cargo. Another thing is removing the target they put once you start selling, only people really close to you can know youre doing a sell mission

[@reecemorton4786]

You can do sale mission in invite only

[@Awaylolzao]

@@reecemorton4786 and keep getting shit payment, lol

[@reecemorton4786]

@@Awaylolzao yeah the MC businesses are so bad especially when they make you drive some garbage truck or UPS carrier lol

[@PolakenLP]

Ur not exactly the brightest star under thr nightsky r u?😂😂

[@dravenripley9468]

@@reecemorton4786 when doing mc its not worth selling in a private lobby. You make barely any profit.

[@lmn_godie2598]

the more painful thing to me is that the ability of upgrading the vehicles like you said in the vid, it makes me think that you most definitely thought about it not only because of the nightclub but with the cargo warehouses aswell, where you can buy speed and armor upgrades to the sell vehicles by just interacting in a little menu, the painful thing is.. cargo warehouses were introduced before the mc business and in the same year with literally 5 months of difference

[@TerminatorGundam300]

Cargo Warehouses also let you pick how much stock to sell at a time so you can handle the selling solo unlike the others.

[@NailStrafer]

@@TerminatorGundam300 Even solo selling a full large warehouse is easier and faster than solo selling MC businesses. With MC businesses, unless you get the Pounder, it takes about 20-30 minutes to do a full sale alone. With a full crate warehouse, it's usually 20 min at max, often far less than that.

[@TerminatorGundam300]

@@NailStrafer With MC you also have to pay attention to how much stock your supplies make otherwise you'll need another player to help sell

[@NailStrafer]

@@TerminatorGundam300 If you have the Sandy Shores MC locations, it's very doable to solo a far sale to Los Santos with every vehicle type, except for Post Op vans. I used to solo MC sales a lot until Cayo came around. There *are* some people who have managed to solo 3 Post Op vans though, but it's like the planets aligning to make that happen. You can only do it from the Sandy Shores meth location, and you have to get lucky with all drops on every van being close together, and you have to have the best routes memorized.

[@TerminatorGundam300]

@@NailStrafer Sounds painfully rough

[@EBikes420]

You can do these in invite only session, yet if you try to use the Terrorbyte to start you sell missions and it tells you to go into public session. Rockstar Games never updated it to be able to use it in invite sessions.

[@Gaming_Nerd1993]

I would like to suggest that we get the Nightclub Technicians to assist with the MC Business sales missions with a 25% going directly to them for the amount of things to sell off to certain buyers or have the Nightclub Technicians completely sell the products you make for a 50% cut going to them for their hard work. Either way there needs to be a massive overhaul for businesses while we take care of other stuff in the game like Heists. If the Auto Shop can have a NPC deliver the customer cars then Rockstar Games can improve the other aspects of the other businesses to make things easier on us.

[@TheGamingKiller242]

You mean the Auto Shop NPCs that damage your cars literally every single time they do a delivery? For a criminal mastermind, our characters are sure idiots to not hire better employees. Pizza delivery drivers are better than that shit.

[@theshlauf]

Might be cool if you could use the Armored Boxville for the Post-Op delivery missions. It needs a serious buff in speed and armor, but it would be cool if you could to use it as hidden option just like the Phantom Wedge on certain missions.

[@michaelnoble-saroto704]

Yeah I usually only sell at 50% stock cause one time I got the post one and I only delivered 7/15 in the 30 minutes

[@AktienMitKopf]

The best way in my opinion is to just let the product add up to about 25-30 percent, so that you only drive 1 truck and not 3. And I always sell in public missions and let a friend protect me with jet

[@chriscarpenter3370]

that's a good way to operate.

[@iareolmedo7838]

1. Personally its a pain in the ass for me to have a timer for jus the limit for only 1 vehicle, since 1 full resupply gives you 2 vehicles. 2. As stated in the vid, almost no one wants to help with sell missions because its boring as shit and dont get anything in return for helping

[@davidwoollett1877]

Excellent video! I gave up on motorcycle club work long ago for those very reasons

[@raven2380]

That's exactly what happened to me. After getting bored to death doing mc sell missions and getting sick of cayo perico now im doing payphone hits, security contracts and autoshop contracts.

[@mad_mike19-88]

totally agree also the races payout system needs an complete over haul too

[@justinyoung5579]

Yes you manage to out race 9 sweats & get like 7,000

[@OLLXTXY]

Completely agree! I did a few of these sell missions again when they gave them a little buff, but since there i have barely sold them as I can’t bring myself to sit through the boredom! Even grinding cayo these days I don’t do it as much as I would just rather do things in the game I actually enjoy, whilst doing little things here and there to make money! Life’s too short to be playing boring game modes 🤣🤣

[@xGAMER_chimpX]

I haven’t done an mc sell mission in years When i tell people not to ever do them they think im messing with them or something

[@starscream2812]

I’m so glad you made this vid on this subject. So i don’t run my mc businesses anymore cuz their so boring and I wore myself out on em over the course of a year. First off I never bothered with the ups trucks cuz their just 2 dam slow. The planes followed shortly after that cuz it takes the entire 30 mins to do at full stock and is even more boring. Basically now I just fill my bunker and nightclub up and run them. My money making routine is do a pay phone hit then call yohan and do 1 of the 2 missions he gives you to add 30% to your night club goods then I fix up both auto shop cars and let staff delivery unless it’s a top class car cuz you get 80,000 for it by delivering yourself. Then I export my goods at the office. From their i run my spare weapons at my bunker. The fix up and deliver a motorcycle at my club house. Then since 20 mins is up after all that I do another pay phone hit and yohan mission and I’m done. Do all that and you’ll get around 300,000 or more and it takes no time for everything to respawn so you can do it all over again. Because of this I have millions just sitting in my pocket lol.

[@michaeldavies47]

Personally, I'd be ok with the MC business sell missions if they just got rid of Post Op. I find these missions a decent way to grind while I'm listening to an audiobook. But your idea of customisation to delivery vehicles would be an excellent solution in my opinion. Performance upgrades would make the missions less of a grind, bringing them a bit more in line with other activities. Defensive options would allow for play in public lobbies. And cosmetic options would be great for just a bit of fun. Plus, Rockstar can make money from it since I would assume these options/upgrade would cost GTA$. Wins all around.

[@showaker4755]

100% agreed. I had bought the mc businesses on release just to have them and do some stuff with them but realizing how tedious it was solo i quickly stopped. Then when I got friends into it years later we started actually making some serious money with each of us having most of the mc stuff and running them in a way that we could alternate days having some of us ready to sell one day and the others the next. Now one of them is having p issues and the others just arent as interested anymore so im back to solo sitting on full stock because i dont want to go through all that solo again.

[@chucknorris2418]

It's not at all worth it even with friends. You all could run the casino back to back or Cayo as well. It's insane how they won't balance things out. Is anybody wasting time with mc businesses or og heists even during this event?

[@showaker4755]

@@chucknorris2418 I make 4 million passively when i sell all my business stuff at full stock and that's not counting the money I make actively while the stuff is being made so I'd say it's definitely worth it if you have friends.

[@coppice8412]

Just had the pleasure to sell coke using the mail van...with lots of stops in vinewood hills...on snow...great fun. After one delivery spot the route would have continued up the hill, but that proved impossible on the snow lol

[@MrJesse424]

Completely agree with you as well on this TGG, hell can do contracts while waiting for the safes to stock up as well as selling vehicles from auto shop, and that'll add up to around the same amount of money made from the sell missions. 🤷 😅

[@naveenvenkateshk]

You came to this realization after so many years, I came to this realization within a couple of weeks into GTA online. I started playing it only in March 2022

[@byroll01]

haha, same. Never touched the MC stuff after I got it. It's only good for the nightclub goods.

[@naveenvenkateshk]

@@byroll01 it’s just so irritating when you get 3 vehicles with 5 goods each. The vehicles are terribly slow and you have to also travel back to pick up the next vehicle. Obviously these missions were designed to be done in groups of at least 3 players. When each takes a vehicle it would be easy to finish. Also in the bunker sale you would also be constantly shot at while delivering 3 vehicles. Rockstar needs to get it into their head that playing with friends is not always possible as not everyone might play at the same time. Playing with randoms is almost impossible when that random could be a 10 yr old who has no clue what to do.

[@misterymisterio8778]

I always sell on private lobbies. But its really not much fun.

[@andriuspetkuz7992]

after i saved up for Kosatka i just forgot, that i even have bunker :D

[@cattythecat9161]

Of course, Capitan 😁

[@keith4047]

Totally agree, in fact I have all the MC businesses set up, (all totally upgraded) but never even log in as an MC president because you just get inundated with raids happening on all your MC businesses as soon as you log on as an MC president. I only keep em active so the nightclubs business will run but I never do any sell missions they just stay static.

[@ShifterGynoid]

I hope that Rockstar make the USS Luxington available to purchase soon, kinda like the Superyacht but bigger and storage for almost every plane and helicopter in the game.

[@danieljobber7931]

P.S. Why destroy the sell vehicles? If you're going to do that and lose money anyways, why not just reload into a new invite-only lobby and try for a better sell mission? You lose a lot less money per reset, and eventually you will get one of the ones you like. You may even get lucky and get the "The stuff is loaded into the truck/van. Just get it to the buyer, and you're done!" :)

[@gnomerome3765]

Waste of(irl) time

[@CarsandCats]

Because then you can't flex on your KZbin video.

[@nickname1581]

@@CarsandCats shut p

[@Brentt777]

Most likely for KZbin views

[@yuppys]

Amen to that, Brother! Not to mention getting stuck with 3 postal vans, which you basically have to abandon to keep your sanity; costing you a penalty of $40K in the process! Or experiencing a bug on the bunker sales, when Merryweather doesn't show up, so you're stuck and you have to find a new session to end the mission; costing again $40K in penalty.

[@duke5280]

Yeah but if it's not costing R* money, they couldn't care less

[@Treva]

Noticed this a while back and the profit isn’t different from what I can tell from selling part of the MC load than a full MC load. 1 resupply = 1 delivery , it will usually only spawn one vehicle, if you have upgrade it’ll spawn two occasionally.

[@dravenripley9468]

Which you have to buy both upgrades for any of them to actually be profitable.

[@AkenoSimp]

You are completely right, I find myself having lack of motivation due to how long the mc businesses take to sell.

[@lilbigrstar]

I swear you voiced every thought I’ve had about these missions right down to destroying the last remaining product because it was so boring. I still do the gun running some but I do not bother with Mc club sales anymore as they are literally designed to frustrate you into buying a shark card, the only benefit they provide now is passively to my nightclub. The agency is more fun and it’s paid for itself x30 by now and cayo is nuff said.

[@Real_token1]

What is the agency???

[@pentiummmx2294]

MC sales are all an Artificial Game Lengthener (AGL)

[@kadachiman7234]

I have the MC business just to allow the nightclub to max its profits. I stopped doing MC sell missions when they took away the duffel bag "temporarily" and when I got a sell mission in the Dodos during a Christmas time snowstorm (could not see the water line and crashed the plane) What would be great is if Rockstar allowed us to buy our own sell vehicles, upgrade them and use our own vehicles for the deliveries....but I feel the novelty for that would quickly wear off as well.

[@stax223]

Would be better still than post op vans.

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

@@stax223 yes so I can destroy more cargo!

[@tedaman8997]

I did the counterfeit cash drop ONCE and never even attempted it again , that shit had me drivin slow ass boats all over the map

[@skifio9]

When doing delivers in those slow vehicles I open my interactive menu and select snacks so I can replenish my health as I’m being shot while driving.

[@Xvenity_17]

Hey TGG thanks for posting back to back love your vids

[@dreammfyre]

Like why would you ever do this instead of selling to street dealers now? They should just remove these sell missions tbh and expand the street dealer part instead

[@Shadowlantrn]

Dude thank you for making this video. This change really needs to happen.

[@marker9308]

Back in 2019-2020 theese businesses were the meta and i remember making theese long ass missions more bareable by getting help in the gta discord server and talking about life and joke around for a few hours while we sell our businesses.

[@RBFR01]

If all businesses had 1 truck you could buy that you can use for all the business sell missions that would be really nice. I only ever grinded ceo crates and I enjoy it and do them in solo public sessions because even tho R* made it so you could grind crates in invite only sessions they disabled the use of the terrorbyte because reasons I guess. If R* want players to stop doing everything in solo public sessions then they need to stop limiting what players have access to. If I want to grind ceo crates in an invite only session I should have no limitations or restricted access to vehicles. I guess it's R*'s way of saying fk you go into a public session and play with the ses pool spermoid trash that pointlessly shoots players.

[@cattythecat9161]

I didnt know, you cant use the terrorbyte in invite only lobbys...

[@poglant]

At least the acid lab is good

[@MoneyBoss5921]

I use mines in invite only

[@nick8416]

Honestly the ability to sell without being briefed was what we all asked for forever. Now we have it

[@nicholasbeach105]

Bro, this is a genius idea; now I want to do a 4-vehicle Documents Sell Mission, from North of the Alamo Sea in a 30-player lobby in suped-up Post-Op vans... SOLO.

[@lfla0179]

That mission with the guy smoking a "strong cigar" with your single delivery truck was pretty funny. Too bad I never got that again.

[@G1ggl3z]

The solution TGG provides should also be considered with *Gunrunning*

[@TGG_]

Absolutely, but at least Gunrunning makes you over $1mil per sale tbh

[@G1ggl3z]

@@TGG_ Sitting on full stock because *"you need more player's to sell"* is annoying

[@olii9062]

@@G1ggl3z all of the sell missions for gunrunning can be done solo except dune buggies and Merryweather. If I get one of those 2 I just find new session

[@kratosgow342]

I think Gunrunning isn't that bad to sell solo barring one sell mission that need 4 players to sell at full stock (Dune Buggy)

[@Gummy-kf3tk]

Yes.. cause it's impossible to sell 3 vehicles from the bunker solo... Especially when you only get 15mins...

[@stevenygabbyperez695]

What I hate about MC businesses are the police raids. I come on to play for an hour and suddenly I'm forced to dedicate 10-20 minutes to keep my property active even though I bought the security upgrade. It happens all the time and if you don't defend the business it gets shut down. The only reason I haven't shut down my MC businesses altogether is because they affect the nightclub revenue. That kind of stuff makes me want to delete the game.

[@woooshbait5398]

Its insane the security doesnt do anything

[@NailStrafer]

In case you don't know, your warehouse techs will still magically get product even if the MC businesses have no supplies. Thus, no product at the MC business, and no more MC business raids :P LJT will whine about you not having any supplies, though. The only important thing is to keep the business turned on and active.

[@thejokerstruth228]

I got you bro easy fix to this problem so you never get raided just disband your mc everytime u finish any mc related activity like an mc mission that’d be a resuppply or sell mission or if you’re just going inside one of them to just check the status of your supply or buy supplies on the computer right after you’re done doing this immediately disband your MC this will prevent you from ever being raided. I’ve done this method for a long time and haven’t gotten raided ever since I started doing this two years ago.👌🏽You’re welcome bro happy gaming✌🏽

[@NailStrafer]

​@@thejokerstruth228 Bad idea to disband right after a sale. If a raid is about to happen, disbanding will auto fail the raid and you lose everything. It's happened to me before. Only registering as MC inside MC businesses does prevent raids though, like you said.

[@gameofsy]

one time i got to drive around that one plane that has the propeller on the tailfin, and it had guns on it. I was also fighting NPC sabers, you get the point

[@ghostytoasty6976]

The only time i will do the sell missions is when i see that one sell mission with one vehicle it has a truck or a van

[@randomguy2678]

Ofc a great vid 😊

[@SupremeMasterr]

Man those are very good points you talk about there but they know why they are not changing them. They are forcing people to earn money in the most boring way possible so they force you to sell sharkcards.

[@stevenalcorn4955]

Same reason they don't remove the raid feature which is crazy asf. Especially bc not only do u lose stock but also any upgrades etc

[@SupremeMasterr]

@@stevenalcorn4955 Yea ive got bunker and cargo raided last week and my cousin got mc raided twice in same day.. Really frustrating.

[@VENNYO.]

I thought I was the only one who had the same POV about these MC businesses. I don’t do these type of businesses since they came out, not even try with the new payment.

[@darrenl3289]

Follow up idea: turn sell missions into mini heists. Using the bulletin board, pick a drop location, transportation mode and time of day/amount of time for delivery. Let risk of cops or rival gangs trying to attack you go up or down based on these factors. Let price be affected as well. Quick one shot set up, then you do it.

[@nicho33clan46]

I agree

[@nightmares5]

The video just came out💀

[@nicho33clan46]

@@nightmares5 i still agree

[@igrvks]

The MC businesses have so much potential for interesting gameplay opportunities and we still only have the errand boy simulator, even with the new drug wars update.

[@cattythecat9161]

Would be better, if a npc drives your truck and you need to protect hin on this delivery for example

[@michaelohaegher8866]

It's for this reason that I only use the MC businesses to funnel product into the nightclub. I occasionally top off supplies from the Arcade, and then sell when Nightclub is full. I *never* do the MC sell missions. In fact the only time I register as a ln MC president is when I'm restocking.

[@traypullup]

I most definitely hate the one with the planes, why? 1- they fly slow asf😂 2- u gotta stay low so you won't get cops 😂 Then the Halloween special with the ufo's just stalling your plane and having u nose dive to your death was kinda heartbreaking 😭💔

[@Emanuel-Velez-lopez]

Can I play with you

[@autistic2505]

No

[@LM-fu3fk]

I noticed this issue a month or so ago when I went to sell some of the coke, it was super boring, took forever, and didn't pay that well. found out that i had more fun gambling at the casino even if its a loss in profit sometimes.

[@Travis-guy-247]

The (shit flavoured) icing on the cake for these is the extra tedious defend missions, where your coke lockup gets raided by the police etc. Even with the security upgrade it happens all the time. I've got to the point now where I'm only ever an MC President to sell the goods, as soon as I'm done selling I disband and go back to being a CEO for any other activity. Too many times as an MC President I was doing Cayo setups and then got interrupted by that fateful MC guitar riff...

[@z7nq232]

I think they should make all sell missions have a planning screen with what vehicles the destination and how much stock your going to sell

[@Commandermcgarett]

honnestly i have all my MC filled out but i never register in fear of getting raided, only reason why i have them full is to farm faster in the nightclub

[@aaronisgrate]

I have the far north paleto bay bunker. Its impossible to sell 4 vehicle loads in los santos while solo. Not enough time for the distance with shit delivery vehicles

[@tacticalautist6927]

The only way to actually do these missions fast or in a public session is finding people on discord but let's say you get 2 people you have to help them in return so selling everything from 3 people takes up to 4-5hours not including griefers

[@Corey185]

I was selling my special cargo and I got the sea plane it's so slow but what really annoys me is helicopters sometimes attack you and you cant defend your self because it's so slow and very low on health

[@Caliburnz]

The main reason why I don’t play as much anymore is most definitely because I felt like I did everything in the game already and now can only want to unlock the rest of the vehicles in the game but it hurts that it still takes a while just to get one car

[@surhytex8280]

I’m so happy that this is getting attention thank you so much tgg

[@isaacmatthews3714]

I did a full stock cocaine sell mission last night, it gave me 3 post op vans. each van had 5 deliveries, the first of which were 4.5 miles away. I had 30 seconds spare on the timer. I will never be doing mc businesses again. Time to focus on the agency n auto shop contracts.

[@bad_decisions9014]

Watched this when it came out and agreed with every point. Got to rant about it now after what happened this week. 2x money and production on biker business this week so went to sell my product. Started with my barely full coke warehouse. Got a single boat and hit a few checkpoints on the water. Pretty fun to get them in the time limit and got a little bonus on top of my 200K. Went to my completely full weed production, a little over 1M in there. First mission got 4 post op trucks. Slow as fuck so went to new session to reset it. Tried again and got the seaplanes, which as you pointed out are boring as hell so tried again. My third attempt it was all loaded into one truck, but the catch was my character would somehow get high off all that, screen goes blurry and my character does a full lock to the left/right causing me to crash into everything. 3 quarters of the way this crash causes me to get the truck wedged, and thus the mission fails after a few seconds and I lose my $1M. I was so fucking mad. In one hour, I made $220K from my not even full business, and lost close to 1M because my truck got stuck on an AI car which I couldnt free because another 10 AI cars just joined the fuckup of smashed cars to keep destroying the truck, which I couldnt get free because my character was fucked on drugs, UPnAtomiser wouldnt do jackshit and ofc I got a wanted level too so also had to deal with being shot up by police. How the fuck are you supposed to get the high demand bonus if you cant even drive the vehicles properly or even fucking defend yourself because you cant hit a fucking thing without failing? Literally halfway to the sell I say "Oh of course its impossible to drive because Rockstar want you to just buy money" and this couldnt be more true with the biker businesses. You're telling me I can fit 100 nightclub crates into a van with a 50 cal on the roof and armor, A 500 crate warehouse into two semi trucks with full engine upgrades, and a WHOLE ACID LAB into a dirtbike, but two bars of coke? FUCK NO, You need atleast four UPS trucks for that, oh and by the way they cant go over 60, have more cons than pro's. Oh and dont even think about scraping the paint or its over. And if you even see a player with the slightest shade of red on their blip, say bye to your hard earned money. As soon as my businesses stock has been sold or destroyed, I'm shutting them all down and never touching them again. I dont give a fuck if they go 100x cash, Unless it follows up with what every other business allows you to do, whats the fucking point?

[@jordanjordie9072]

This was Amazing. I agree 100% percent gang. This shit is ridiculous