I will now reveal all the inner workings of tanking

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Relf

Relf

Күн бұрын

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@Garry-y7b
@Garry-y7b 21 күн бұрын
I can’t think of anyone else who has really sorted out this clusterf%k of game balance and made it understandable, bravo. 👏
@realthlive7124
@realthlive7124 21 күн бұрын
Thanks boss, appreciate the love
@fettbub92
@fettbub92 21 күн бұрын
This is great for anyone in any role to watch. These are food things to think about when picking your support or damage heroes, or making swaps.
@muleboy3537
@muleboy3537 21 күн бұрын
This is actual gold and should be seen by everybody associated with the game: playing it, designing it, copying it, etc.
@pottedrosepetal6906
@pottedrosepetal6906 21 күн бұрын
Honestly at this point I just play rein aggressive and see what rank I end up at. Yes, I am feeding, but I have fun. Usually I just end up at diamond. I used to be like close to master in OW1 and did hit GM in ow2 (season 3 tho, idk if that counts) but now I just wanna have fun man.
@Venant91182
@Venant91182 21 күн бұрын
Resource trading is an important concept that many tanks would benefit from considering, but if the enemy team has one player that is massively better than everyone individually in the lobby then this playstyle will just result in that player eventually killing everyone. You see this in OWCS now among the lower/middle tier teams, where often who wins a match comes down to the slightly higher ranked team winning because they have an Ace dps.
@izakoz
@izakoz 21 күн бұрын
Really appreciate this one. Ive been struggling to conceptualize 5v5 ow2 tanking, and for better or worse this framework put words to my vibe-based understanding. Peace and love on planet earth.
@arshnoorsran9191
@arshnoorsran9191 21 күн бұрын
So you’re telling me that I should just constantly slam cycle on doomfist and rarely go for a big empowered punch? Because I feel what you’re saying in my gameplay. The games I struggle in are when I know all I should be doing is slamming in and punching out, but I just subconsciously get so bored that I try to force a big punch. And just like you said, I either explode or get out with one hp and demand too many resources. It’s just so hard to not be aggressive because then your team just parrots “you’re not taking space” over and over again. How can you chill and also take space? Someone has to be aggressive for an advantage to be formed right? Do I slam cycle and keep track of what cd’s were used and base my push on that? How do I push when the enemy team will have their cd’s back by the time I recover my cd’s from slam cycling? For example, roadhog hook is on a 6 second cooldown. Even if I manage to bait out hook in every slam cycle, roadhog will have hook for the next engagement. How do I pressure the enemy team then because they’ll probably also have cass, ana, or sombra? And how do I do this while making sure my back line isn’t getting hit by characters like tracer, genji, sombra, etc.?
@DestroyerOfDoom
@DestroyerOfDoom 21 күн бұрын
I can look at some of your matches and tell you what I think. There's more to doom than slam cycle so there is hope! I'm a doom otp btw
@arshnoorsran9191
@arshnoorsran9191 21 күн бұрын
@@DestroyerOfDoom Ayy another masochist! Always gotta respect a fellow doom otp. I’ll play a couple of games later today and send you a code or 2. I’m plat 2 trying to get into diamond, so any tips will be appreciated.
@Ccscenario
@Ccscenario 21 күн бұрын
you literally just slam cycle, get ult which helps you use empowered punch more safely, if use ult then restart cycle, distract backline supports, if team doesn’t kill enemy tank with no support than your rank sucks
@DestroyerOfDoom
@DestroyerOfDoom 21 күн бұрын
@arshnoorsran9191 yeah it's a life of pain for us haha. You can send your discord so we can chat there
@alpakapucuf3394
@alpakapucuf3394 20 күн бұрын
​@@Ccscenario slam cycle is just sysyphus which is why i stopped at around 300 hours of pushing this rock
@inoo2345
@inoo2345 21 күн бұрын
Im so annoyed that all of the nuance of dva and zarya have been removed when ow2 came out. Never found the same amount of fun playing tank. Staight up went to playing the other 2 roles since they are just more fun in every way
@ducasse8473
@ducasse8473 21 күн бұрын
Which is funny because this is how I felt in OW1 but opposite. Supports and dps was so boring lol.
@user-cy6xl3vd3f
@user-cy6xl3vd3f 19 күн бұрын
Have you tried the 7HSKW 6v6 code ? :)
@A_Jetsfan
@A_Jetsfan 21 күн бұрын
Dva buffs went hard in season 12! So many 225 hp targets that just explode.🎉
@bull_ow
@bull_ow 11 күн бұрын
This is such an awesome video, it is not just for tanks, understanding how the game works like this is valuable for everyone.
@realthlive7124
@realthlive7124 11 күн бұрын
@@bull_ow 😘
@snoski2697
@snoski2697 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, the thing about 6v6 is that, in theory, getting support from your off-tank feels great when you’re playing main tank. One small issue: 90% of the games in Diamond/Masters I had Roadhog, Ball or Sigma as my off-tank. The only positive memory I have about off-tanks is playing the Dva or Zarya myself to enable the occasional main tank player.
@FlipsMG
@FlipsMG 16 күн бұрын
Ball was a main tank btw.
@snoski2697
@snoski2697 15 күн бұрын
@@FlipsMG Yes, I just don’t want to play ball, I want to play shieldman or monkey.
@mikewaterhouse6262
@mikewaterhouse6262 21 күн бұрын
The GOAT...DPS and Support coming!?!?
@Xdxdxdmoneu
@Xdxdxdmoneu 21 күн бұрын
Another banger video
@noxu830
@noxu830 22 күн бұрын
RELF!
@MrJuico1337
@MrJuico1337 21 күн бұрын
If it comes down to certain tanks not being able to aggress because they demand more resources, wouldn't an answer be to give them more armour HP / rework armour to behave how it did before the most recent rework of it's behaviour? Since it was essentially better value to heal armour HP, in a vacuum.
@EnigmaticSpuce
@EnigmaticSpuce 20 күн бұрын
The issue with this was/is, I think, finding a good balance between armor and health is difficult. For the most part tanks become unkillable if they play cover right or have enough support from their supports because of the way armor and kit exchanges work. And then on the other hand it would make other tanks or dps useless against more popular picks because of the way armor worked before. They changed it to the way it works now, if I understand it right, because it just made it easier to understand and balance around. But it always goes back to 5v5 just not being healthy for tank players imo because they never did enough to the ow1 kits to make up for the lack of resources most heroes(mainly tanks) from ow1 had.
@user-yr7gs5gh8l
@user-yr7gs5gh8l 21 күн бұрын
What's the name of the song at 20:17?
@realthlive7124
@realthlive7124 21 күн бұрын
Aquatic Ambience :)
@lemonofficial8449
@lemonofficial8449 21 күн бұрын
Its Stickerbrush Symphony by David Wise
@Zakon673
@Zakon673 21 күн бұрын
Getting ready to watch this whole video on tank theory knowing that at the end of it I'm still going to exclusively play QP and lock Mauga every game because being a giant slab of HP with a minigun that sets people on fire makes my goblin brain happy.
@pottedrosepetal6906
@pottedrosepetal6906 21 күн бұрын
as a rein main I want to sincerly insult you.
@musicxxa6678
@musicxxa6678 20 күн бұрын
Ram's problem is that he is straight up undertuned. Definitely not on the same level as some other tanks. He is the least picked tank in top500 since S9 changes. He is the least picked tank in top500 in overall OW2 history and it's not even close. Almost never an efficient or optimum pick. Trade offs in tank role is very skewed. There is no reason to pick Ram. Ram's block is very overrated. Your blocking needs to put pressure on to enemy team but you dont get that in solo que ranked unless you have ult in overtime. Even his ult is a joke now anyways.
@jocm99
@jocm99 11 күн бұрын
You're absolutely delusional and have less wrinkles on your brain than a 2 months old baby on its face. 5 rams in first page of EU top500, 6 in second page, 6 in third page, and I could keep going because it's like that until the very end of top500. He's literally brawl meta and has been played consistently in OWCS until mauga became hardcore meta lmfao.
@Ryan-wj7yq
@Ryan-wj7yq 21 күн бұрын
Overwatch is dead and Overwatch killed it
@tylerbacoka4248
@tylerbacoka4248 21 күн бұрын
Overwatch the only game doing nothing is actually a strategy, because the game is rigged wack.
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