i386DX-33 and some good old games

Tseng Labs ET4000
8 MB ram
Cherry Keyboard
DOS 6.20

[@jdaracena]

I was learning programming in gwbasic, cobol, clipper, db2 in a this kind of these computer at 1995 in secondary school. I have nostalgic remembers about this time. I would like to have one of these to remember this times. Best regard and enjoy this amazing machine.

[@rootbeer666]

That's running Doom surprisingly well on low detail. I expected a lower framerate but that looks playable, low detail aside.

[@Co0kieMadera187]

i had a 386DX40 with also 8 MB RAM and the ET4000 Card, i could play everything of the time on that machine.. it had win 3.1 and was so awesome.. i wish i still had it :-( could even run theme park, duke nukem 3d and all that good stuff...

[@Retrohertz]

A 486DX2 66 struggled with Duke Nukem 3D, so I think your 386 would have really struggled.

[@valenrn8657]

@@Retrohertz It depends on the framebuffer's performance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzan6iteciZmas 486DX2 66Mhz with S3 Virge DX running Duke Nukem 3D

[@Retrohertz]

@@valenrn8657 Impressive, but even in that clip the framerate drops with more complex scenes and animations.

[@valenrn8657]

@@Retrohertz There's 486DX4-100 or Pentium Overdrive.

[@Thotamon]

when i was a child I played doom 2 on same machine, only cpu was 386sx, so I decreased screen size to play. Nice memories from 1996

[@mariannowicki3185]

It is wonderfull. It looks exactly where I was 20 years old.

[@REALSlutHunter]

Good Doom performance for a 386

[@valenrn8657]

Tseng Labs ET4000 was a fast SVGA card.

[@Corsa15DT]

@@valenrn8657 this was the revolution of the PC. Throw in another gpu from another manufacturer, it runs and it makes your computer faster. VGA, XGA. SVGA, just load the drivers. Same for sound, same for modem, same for cpu.... Amiga couldn't do this, it had a very limited and inefficient expansion port.

[@valenrn8657]

@@Corsa15DT Phase 5 is "gold plating" their 68K acceleration cards. In 1994, a batch of 10,000 68060 has about half the cost of Pentium CPU counterpart, yet Germany's Phase 5 68060 cards weren't cost-competitive when compared to PC clones. There's a reason why Germany doesn't have a credible homegrown desktop computer platform while the British have ARM Ltd and Raspberry Pi. BMW/Mercedes Benz/Tiger tank "German Engineering" mindset doesn't work in the computer industry.

[@pirateskeleton7828]

I still play Raptor: Call of the shadows

[@CreamPolo]

Those were the days :)))) I have played most of those games. Fun time.

[@Repne64Bit]

Ох какой шикарный корпус! Я мечтал в своё время о том, чтобы у меня 386 DX-40 был именно в таком корпусе и чтобы отображалась цифра 40 )) Ещё лучше, конечно, чтобы это был 486 DX2/66, но это уже совсем другая история.

[@AxMav]

еще и сд-ром :)

[@RanFuRe]

Nice machine! I love the MHZ counter on the front.

[@albertwu847]

R. F. R. Jeez I thought it was the temperature!

[@soylentgreenb]

@@albertwu847 Not only is it not the temperature. You had to set it manually; once for turbo off and once for turbo on, with a load of jumpers.

[@lestatcowalski7785]

Such nostalgia! Very good! I remember good times 30 years ago! Greetings from Brazil!

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

I remember trying to install the HDD and cdrom with the isa controller and the jumpers! Also you could overclock the cpu by raising the voltage through the jumpers but if it was a cyrix, the system was unstable. I remember I was running a cyrix without the heatsink!

[@joseluisrojas220]

Doom runs quite well for a 386 :D Those Tseng cards were really something!

[@Baoran]

I feel like doom runs better in this video than in my 486 33Mhz

[@REALSlutHunter]

I think it has to do with the FSB and good Memory timings. The Tseng ET4000 is a good card, but for Doom the best ones are Cirrus Logic.

[@oliverguliver3012]

Yes sx and dx

[@ravengaming4143]

I still feel the Amiga was a better PC in the early 90s due to costing much less and still having good game support, although once Doom was out it was clear where the future was (DOS/Windows PC) and sometime in the mid 90s you could get a pretty good PC with some 486 DX4 or Pentium. Early 90s PC gaming was still too much hassle imo, due to hardware becoming obsolete so fast (you could buy a 386 SX in 1992 and Doom already made it obsolete in 1993).

[@valenrn8657]

@@ravengaming4143 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4jRgYhum7-NoKc Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 68030 @ 50 Mhz accelerator card playing Doom... Year 1993 has the Pentium 66Mhz which pushed down the older 486, fast 386DX33 and 386DX266 based PCs. Commodore didn't release a pre-configured Amiga 1200 with 50Mhz 68030.

[@jorgeandrade20]

wow, such a wonderful performance, it's hard to believe this is a 386, a friend of mine had a 386-SX33 back in the day and it wasn't half as fast as this machine!

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

OMG that Turbo button. Good times.

[@dontmindmejustwatching]

Yooooo I had exact same PC case back in 90th!

[@komepollass]

486 were the best PCs. Mainly because early pentiums came with so many problems. A fully maxed 486DX2-4 was a beast.

[@mrbrad4637]

I agree.. my maxed out DX4/75 overclocked to 100mhz was one of the most memorable computers I've owned.. it even ran Quake very well along with the original grand theft auto... Windows 98SE and dialup internet.. A great PC with enough grunt to do everything. It had 24Mb RAM and a fast S3 VLB graphics accelerator card which made a big difference with frame rates especially in games like Quake

[@danstewart6311]

That is a mean rig you have there! Nice selection also :)

[@thewhyzer]

Nice! We had a 386dx40, but no sound card, so your setup wins :)

[@Anilocin]

A fellow JMJ fan! :)

[@jarosawwojtowicz9273]

This is nice Man! Cheers from Poland! :-)

[@GSi16vrs]

Thanks alot Jaroslaw! Greetings from Sweden! 🥰

[@srkiknez237]

Curse of monkey island , legendarno ,hvala za ovaj klip.

[@syafiqaffendi5411]

Good ol' days.. I used to have i386 DX 33MHz with 4MB 30-pin RAM, Oak VGA 256KB VRAM and the performance.. just good on Prince of Persia and Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade. Only got 1.2MB, 3.25" disk drive and a Seagate 90MB. Don't have DOOM until upgraded to 486DX2 - 66Mhz (managed to overclocked to 80MHz without problem) with 16MB EDO RAM and Trident TGUI9440i 1MB VRAM with 1.44MB disk drive, 10GB Seagate HDD and a quad-speed CD-ROM. Then i can really enjoy playing Final DOOM!

[@thewhyzer]

10GB HDD! Wow1 Our Packard Bell Pentium 100MHz only came with an 850MB HDD, and I think only 8MB RAM though we upgraded not long later.

[@Just_a_Lad]

Beautiful

[@pxb-retrofun]

My first PC is 386 DX40 MHz, 8MB RAM :) Trident VGA 512kB

[@mnovasoft]

thanks for this, greetings from Italy

[@koksucoast55]

beautiful setup👌👌👌

[@Melzasx]

Please, could you render it and upload it again with no music, just ambience noise + computer sounding? Now it is great, but that way It'd be superb.

[@prozac1127]

Computers today look exactly the same. Just the colours and screen is wider.

[@mariaandersson3173]

Alltid kul med lite Retro. Hoppas den håller många år till.

[@GSi16vrs]

Tack! Jag vårdar den väl =)

[@Caleb-fv5fp]

Computers where weird in the 80s, they can handle full 3d flat shaded polygonal rendering for games but they couldn’t side scrolling like in Mario😂 Well they could but it was just like a tech demo back in 1987

[@ravengaming4143]

The DX was good, it's the SX that was a bit sucky but many more had a SX because it was cheaper and more wide spread.

[@soylentgreenb]

It was no more expensive to make 386DX CPU, it was the DX motherboard that was expensive to make.

[@noisywan]

Mine was also i386Dx33 with i387 math co. processor. Octek Mainboard, 4 MB ram ?(can't remember brand) 1 MB Trident Video Card, 120 MB Conner HDD, Teac 1.44 floppy, Teac 5.25 floppy, Acer 14 inch monitor, SoundBlaster Pro, = $3100 at that time (1992) Monkey Island and Dott are used to be my all time fav adventure games.

[@m9078jk3]

Yeah I use a Tseng Labs ET4000 too. It a great card and you have a really nice vintage system

[@MaxOpenSource]

sweet memories....

[@AxlePineapple]

i am reminded of the time i went to a friend's house to play doom 2 on his brand new pentium 2 but i was used to it crawling on our 386 33 at home. "why is the game sped up? this is weird".

[@Duchovicius1983]

No 60fps, no 4K bullshit, no internet and social media. Just YOU, YOUR PC, DOOM and ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF FUN :)

[@pelgervampireduck]

it runs that well on 33mhz???????????????. I had 40mhz, 8mb of ram, and it ran a bit slow. playable, but in some levels I had to turn the details low or resize the screen to make it smaller. maybe it was because the card was an isa realtek svga with 512kb.

[@stillgaming]

I never thought Doom would run on my intel 386. I never tried. I was most likely short on RAM as well. It ran Wolfenstein 3D and Ken's Labyrinth very well, though.

[@dustmighte]

Wow, surprisingly playable for a 386. Seems to be running at the same frame rate as I remember playing it on my similarly clocked 486DX?! (edit: meant Doom. sorry)

[@TheVanillatech]

I think it was (F5) low detail mode, pixel doubling.

[@bigd5090]

Impressive but give me an Amiga 1200 with 030/50 accelerator over this any day! We had to wait until 1998 for Doom but the Amiga sound and the responsive multitasking operating system was a dream for early 90s games! Using a 90s PC wasn't fun IMHO but I was jealous of C&C.

[@GSi16vrs]

Yeah Amiga was ahead of its time indeed! I have a Amiga 1000

[@RETROMachines]

Tseng ET4000 is the best...

[@moeschizlac]

Tseng ET4000 w32i and ATi mach 32 were the best.

[@EnglishPolishOnline]

Pretty awesome to see an original machine. How much RAM does it have? I never knew 386s could play Doom that well.

[@GSi16vrs]

Thanks! It has 32mb ram. I upgraded from 8 🙂

[@Paar86]

May I ask what motherboard is in your build? Thanks.

[@magnum333]

Nice!

[@josesantos2603]

My computer was exactly like this

[@oldschooldriver]

cool stuff did you stick a phone to your forehead or chin? i’m planning to make a similar video and you throw a good idea…

[@tekidiots6863]

my first pc back in day also what is the song played at the start, my dad had these songs on tape

[@MichaelRusso]

Enough power to run Doom until you use the gatling gun

[@wichstos]

Norton

[@Ozfrank]

Сомнительно, что на видео 386DX, это скорее всего 486DX-33, судя по субъективным ощущениям, ибо, для тройки больно шустро Doom работает.

[@belandino]

How did you get Doom to run so smooth on a 386? Amazing indeed. Certainly 8 MB ram is quite a lot, but still...

[@soylentgreenb]

Graphics card and zooming out. If you see a smaller picture the framerate looks/feels a bit better. Most of what doom did was copying things to graphics memory. Having a good graphics card that could come close to saturating the 16-bit ISA bus was essential; there is no computer so slow a bad graphics card cannot slow it down further. On the CPU side of things memory wait states mattered and enormous amount; reducing the wait states could get you like 30% extra performance in some games. Memory bandwidth mattered enormously; 386SX had half the memory bandwidth of 386DX to make the motherboard cheaper (same as 8086 vs 8088). Cache mattered. Some late 386 motherboards had L1 cache on the motherboard and it made about a 10-20% difference. Making the cache larger didn't matter much at all; just having some cache made a decent difference; doesn't matter if its 64 kB or 256 kB, just having that little bit of cache was the big thing. There are 486-like chips that work in a 386 motherboard; they are faster but don't have "real" 486 performance; mainly it's a difference in internal CPU cache (none vs like 1 kB).

[@Dxceor2486]

@@soylentgreenb well actually I noticed something rather strange between 386SX and DX, or at least on mine : 386DXs seem to half their bandwidth somewhere to the RAM (like if RAM was running at 20MHz on a 40MHz 386). Meanwhile, SX seem to run RAM at faster/full speed. My 386SX 25 can pretty much outperform a cacheless 386DX 25 because of that. My memory speed is comparable to the memory speed of a DX25, if not greater on some slow ones. However, you may have noticed I mentionned "cacheless 386DX" because it seems that cache talks to the CPU at full speed at least, thus increasing vastly the performance. On my 386SX, cache wouldn't matter since the memory bandwidth is pretty much maxed out ...

[@valenrn8657]

@@Dxceor2486 386DX = 32-bit bus 386SX = 16-bit bus I have both 386SX16 and 386DX33 with L2 cache paid by my Dad.

[@Dxceor2486]

@@valenrn8657 I know that, but this is what makes it strange : memory bandwidth should be halved on the 386SX, not being similar/faster !

[@valenrn8657]

@@Dxceor2486 It also depends on VGA card's quality.

[@Hypernerdwithcam]

siffrorna på chassit?

[@GSi16vrs]

swedisch elite hacker system!!!!!! CPU hastigheten 33 MHz

[@soylentgreenb]

Dem var till för att: 1/ det var coolt 2/ man ser om maskinen är i turboläge eller inte. Turbo sölade ned maskinen (ja, turbo on var vanligen söligare) så att man kunde spela gamla spel gjorda på 8088, 286 e d och som körde för snabbt på en "modern" 386:a.

[@primus711]

i have a golden gate 486slc2 50mhz with this card:) in a A2500 060 the ultimate 80's/early 90's machine for real hardware on both sides be funny to have the 486 emu a amiga and the amiga emu the pc lol next plan is try and get the faster ti sxlc 75mhz and then overclock the isa etc well i just fixed that issue with this redhill.net.au/c/c-4.html#slc2 now i have Blue Lighting 16KB cache haha

[@kallamamran]

[@vasileios6301]

Sound card?

[@brostenen]

He used a standard Soundblaster compatible card with a good adlib support. Might even be a true OPL chip on that card.

[@brostenen]

Oh man.... Dont ever run doom on anything slower than a 486dx2-80 with VL-Bus.

[@soylentgreenb]

DX2-66 is good enough to mostly cap out the 35 FPS limit in dos. For better ports that uncap the framerate like doom 95 you need more oomph.

[@brostenen]

@@soylentgreenb You do not want to play doom on a DX2-66, when you hit the bigger levels. I think I know what I am talking about, because I have been playing Doom since it was released. No. DX2-66 is too slow, unless you only want to play the first couple of levels. I do play Doom and Doom-II on my DX2-80 with S3-805-VLB and VLB controller. Even though it is not fully butter smooth.

[@pitstopman]

Doom.runs slow...486 sx 33 was much beter❤you need 1 mb videocard..not 512

[@BurnedPinguin8630]

fish eye

[@zubnoij_tehnik]

IDDQD IDKFA и держите меня семеро😁

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

Doom is slow because you need the co processor

[@xbtas]

It's a DX, it has the coprocessor inside it already.

[@alexandrossotiropoulos5621]

@@xbtas I had also a 386 back in 1997 and I had Windows 95 on the HDD. I still have a pentium 3 laptop which runs windows 2000 and backward. It is good for Doom!

[@Paar86]

Doom didn't need any FPU coprocessor, it's calculations were integer based. Quake was heavy on floating point calculations that's why it needs at least a Pentium 1. Doom needs clockspeed - the more the better. For me the starting point for playing the game smoothly enough is 486 DX4 100 MHz.

[@noahbuzelli4245]

@@xbtas i know this is a year late but all 386 cpus didnt come with an inbuilt coprocessor. Only the 486DX's and up had coprocessors builtin

[@valenrn8657]

@@xbtas 386DX = 32 bit bus 386SX = 16 bit bus

[@roasthunter]

This is an old slow machine and playing doom on something like this rather than a £20 raspberry pi that can run it full speed emulated and is a fraction of the size and is just bringing hurt on yourself. This sort of thing bring a certain amount of nostalgia but soon one remembers why one got rid of this stuff because better and faster things became available. I had a 386DX 40 back in the day but remember throwing the motherboard processor and co-processor and 8Mb of memory in the bin years back, shame as people pay good money for this stuff now.

[@Wingnut353]

Except a ET4000 is one of the better graphics cards of the day... and DOOM is running fine there. Running DOOM on newer hardware can sometimes feel wrong to those that played it alot back in the day as it was ment to be played :P on slow machines.

[@roasthunter]

@@Wingnut353 I know I had an ET4000 at some point on my 386 back in the early 1990s, think it came with a Trident and I upgraded to a Tseng ET4000. Doom never ran particularly well on any 386, I had an AMD DX40 with 387 co-processor (not that it would make any difference to doom). My friend had a 486DX33 and that ran Doom a little better. I fairly recently sold a pentium 166mhz and that ran doom at full speed, it was always a bit slow on a 386. I'm quite into retrocomputing by the way and getting ones hands on the original does bring back some nostalgia but I don't really have much love for the PCs of this era, they were a bit slow really.

[@Dneprovsky_Poiskovik]

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