i7-7700K in 2023... Trash or Treasure? - Testing Games @ 1440p Ultra

[@GamingLovesJohn]

Ahh the year where Tech Deals actually taught me about PC components :) when I first started out.

[@WolfoxLive]

7700K served me well for 5 years but when I upgraded to 10700K it made a massive difference I wasn't expecting such a huge jump. In most games the fps almost doubled with the same ram and video card.

[@TechDeals]

Awesome, glad to hear you're enjoying it... this is what so many people don't believe me on when I say more cores makes a difference!

[@MinhNguyen-bz2pd]

10th gen Not really that great. Lol. Wait until you try 13th gen. 😂

[@WolfoxLive]

@@MinhNguyen-bz2pd Yeh but nah, If I upgrade later this year, I will definitely go for Ryzen 7800X3D or 7900X3D path.

[@raleralic705]

Omg, i got new gpu 3070 and i didnot know the 7700k is killing mine fps

[@MinhNguyen-bz2pd]

@@raleralic705 CPU can't keep up with 3070

[@GodTouchedMe]

I use the i7-7700K and it’s still amazing. No need to upgrade it anytime soon and Microsoft claims that W11 does not support that cpu but it runs totally fine and has no crashes!

[@jfern6673]

Im still using my 7700k which i bought with your advice about 6 years ago now.. thank you again, its been overclocked at 4.9 ever since, hasnt missed a beat

[@4D_Obamium]

@@jfern6673 what voltage are u running on 4.9 GHz?

[@rdj0981]

I had a 6600k, 16gb ram and a 2070 in 2019 . Bought my 2020 and upgraded the platform to a 3900X then 5900X. Still using the 2070 8GB today. It's a fantastic card.

[@photoray002]

Defining how the CPU percentages correlate with how the CPU cores are actually being used, is a major significance that a lot of people don't realize, nor do most others videos of performance tell you about. Thanks for being so thorough.

[@CHONKU5]

Your i7 7700k build video was my first PC and the introduction to your channel. It’s crazy to see you again as im currently in the market for an upgrade. Glad to see you again :)

[@TechDeals]

Welcome back!

[@JasperSkallow]

Overclock to 5GHz and get an AMD card ;)

[@12GaugeLeadSalad]

I built a 7700k because of many KZbinr build videos, but mainly yours and your comparison videos at the time. Ryzen was new and kind of an unknown quantity at the time and, for me, the 7700k was a huge step from a i3-3rd gen prebuilt(that I bought in a pinch just to use as a PC as I gamed on a PS3 at the time). The 7700k is still serving me just fine for what I can ask for it(CSGO@1080p, Doom Eternal and CB2077 were the last AAA titles I played on it). With a GTX 1070, I even had an enjoyable experience with CP2077 @1080p. No issues that could not be attributed to the game, but I still had a great time playing it. But, the desire to play the current AAA games and realizing it was 7 years ago has pushed me to build a new system. I haven't done anything to the 7700k system except replace the ram I was using due to random memory check errors. I only had to restart and it would boot fine. This happened once in every 20boots or so. I just kind of lived with it for a year or so since everything ran fine once it did boot. Looking back, I'm not sure I ever updated that Z270 mobo, just made sure the XMP was working and carried on. I just got done building a 13700k. I know you are more partial to the 13600k, but I only paid $400 for the 13700k. Figured the two extra cores couldn't hurt. The only downside to upgrading, is I have to buy a new monitor to step up to 1440p! But that will be nice since I'll get QHD and a larger display (27" vs 23").

[@Meloncat74629]

Only 7 likes?

[@12GaugeLeadSalad]

@@Meloncat74629 Probably because I overused the phrase "at the time."

[@oblivionlord1242]

Just OC the 7700k, it completely and almost eliminates 1/0.1% stutters , my wife's is currently at 4.7ghz at 1.23v and it's honestly a big difference in games like Elden Ring, Cyberpunk and so on over the default 4.2ghz

[@star_man]

I still use a 7700k system upgraded with an RTX3080 and game at ultrawide 3440x1440 with absolutely no problem in AAA games. I am only interested in 60fps+ and all my games including Hogwarts Legacy achieve that at high or ultra settings.

[@mikeymaiku]

these 1151 systems have a special heart for me. so much that i build 4 ES based 8c/16t systems ranging from the xeon 2286m, QQLS (cofee lake ) to the QTJ1 which is a 10th gen laptop model.

[@getcarter4dynamo]

Still using my 7700k platform. See no reson to upgrade yet as it plays well in all the games im playing.

[@Jvwtt]

i7 7700 with a 1080ti playing 4k 60 decently for my older games lol great video! Definitely not getting rid of it yet❤

[@DrunkenMalkavian]

My man. Same setup here, only I play 1080p @144 Hz.

[@TechDeals]

Very nice!

[@sciroccosven]

1080 GT for me and still going. Thankfully there aren’t any new aaa games I need to play right now

[@WajeehLEO]

I am a big fan from Pakistan & following you from last 6 years your videos are more informative and very detailed technically thanks for sharing with us cheers

[@RustyHeartsTOV]

I still running my dellided 7700k running on 5,0 GHz with an overclocked GTX1080ti Strix since 2017. Its still enough for me with 1440p gaming.

[@lateralus6512]

I’m still using the same rig as well and am surprised how well it still performs at 1440p gaming.

[@shawntice]

Thank-you for this series. I am still rocking a 7700K with a GTX 1070. Still like it. I know it's limitations but it does what I need it to do and I still get lots of replay use with the games I do play. Your going to be satisfied with something if you temper your expectations accurately.

[@vjextreme]

how is with Tlou?

[@wiziek]

@@vjextreme lol pcmaster race complaining about ps3 game ps4/ps5 remake

[@encaged314]

I run a 7700k, 16GB RAM, and a 3070. The rig was my first build and over the years, I've changed power supply, cooler, and GPUs. It handles 1440p gaming well. I would love to upgrade and tinker with it some more but the quality is good enough for what little gaming I do nowadays. In some games, like Forza Horizon 5, the graphics auto set to Ultra or something crazy so I have to lower it a little or else I run into issues and error messages. I think Cyberpunk 2077 was the same but it's been a while since I booted it. 2077 is playable, I don't recall having that many issues with it but I also don't exactly recall my graphics settings lol For an upgrade, I'm leaning towards either a Ryzen 5700X or Intel 12600K because they're both sub-$200 currently.

[@trajanaugustus8783]

Great review and very accurate. I have been putting along with my 6yo i5-7600k and I'm really looking forward to getting an R7 7700 or R9 7900 (non-x) system soon.

[@LeviathanXVer3]

I'm still running a i7 7700k with a 1080ti @ 3440 x 1440p since 2017. I mostly play older or indie games so I am fine for the most part.

[@alandahr]

I have one as well, but I have an issue with the noise! It is extremely noisy compared to all other machines I own. Have you noticed yours being "louder" than other machines? Thx 🙏

[@FeZerret]

Was just looking for some ideas what gpu to get next for my 7700k, didnt hear that voice in years and still recognized it instantly. You have a special place in my Tech heart lol

[@Darsig67]

Before I start watching, I am going to say I started watching around this time (slightly before) and built this PC. My first on my own and still use it today. Looking forward to what you have to say.

[@davidh3608]

I’m still running my 7700k (OC to 4.8Ghz) with a 3070 and pretty happy with it. I guess I’ll update when the 5000 series will come out probably. With GTA6?

[@IDMYM8]

Hey buddy. I have 7700k, though I wouldn't need right now to buy anything, but can you tell me is it getting bottlenecked at 4.8ghz with 3070? What resolution are you playing on, DLSS or no etc? Also, what games can it play on 120fps, and what games on 60fps? I might in future completely rebuild my rig or better will be I get away with simply OCing and getting 3070 series. Seems to me there's no way to know other than asking people personally who runs that on OC with that Graphics card pairing. Thanks it will be very kind of you.

[@EdwardVelez]

I still use the 7700k with a 6700 XT. I'll likely keep using them until the 4090 drops in price or the 5000 series releases. We'll see what happens. Realistically, I don't want to drop $5k on a new set up.

[@6stringstandard136]

I just built a new machine to replace an i7-3770K with a GeForce 660Ti. Yup, 10 year old tech. Built with an i5-13600k. Quite a difference.

[@zingwilder9989]

Wow!!

[@TechDeals]

Did you fall out of your chair at the difference? :)

[@6stringstandard136]

@@TechDeals Pretty much. I think the CPU in combination with the Samsung 980 Pro SSD makes it incredibly fast. Certainly much better than a SATA spinning hard drive tied to that old processor.

[@Dee-bg5qy]

I have a GTX 1080TI with a i7-7700k and 16GB DDR4 memory. There isnt a game out that I cannot play at respectable levels. Sure, there are better CPU's and even GPU's out there, but this set up works, especially when you look at the overall gaming library when it comes to things like Steam for example. The overwhelming majority of games you can run at 4k 60fps with this set up, and this isnt even using 32gb of RAM. I built my rig back in late 2017/early 2018 and I have yet to upgrade it. If I do, I will probably max out the RAM as that will be the easiest. Im using a cheap Asus H110-K motherboard that I had to flash in order for the CPU to work. Both the GTX 1080TI and i7 7700K are bang for your buck treasures.

[@lateralus6512]

I have the same rig and it still plays all my games on high settings at 1440p. I’m really surprised how well it has held up.

[@Dee-bg5qy]

@lateralus6512 This is my 1st and only gaming rig ever built and these are my 2nd GPU and CPU's ever purchased. My first GPU was a 980 and my first CPU was like an i5. The current rig set up is 6 years old and still runs lovely. To be fair. Im a casual gamer, even more casual since becoming a Father a few years back. I haven't come across a reason to upgrade

[@lateralus6512]

@@Dee-bg5qy I’m a causal gamer as well and I only play slow paced single player strategy games these days like Total War and Paradox Grand Strategy titles.

[@vincentvega3093]

Just got a 1080 ti for my windows 7 "retro" ddr3 rig paired with a 4790k on a Z97 deluxe

[@NightAuwl]

Thank you for these videos. I think it might be time to continue my own The Division 2 adventure 😄

[@TechDeals]

Go for it!

[@Jrambo68]

I remember watching this build 6 years ago. Techdeals is very thorough. I have a similar build as him, just no nvme. Still rocks games with the Strix 1070.

[@ErikS-]

You can love it... You can hate it... But FACT is that the 7700K is a classic legend!

[@honkhonkler7732]

I had a 7700K but the mobo died so I got a Ryzen 7 2700 a couple of years later. It was a great CPU. Very strong single threaded performance when overclocked to 5Ghz. It just doesn't have enough cores anymore.

[@PrincessTS01]

mine still runs perfectly

[@BlackReaper9]

I can literally spend hours watching you speak about tech. Extremely informative. Thank you so much for the amazing content 🙏

[@anthonysmith6413]

Oh my... time to get some Tea. It just became cozy time.

[@TechDeals]

*waves hi* - Thanks for watching! :)

[@JoshuaHole99]

Great overview of Morse law, lol!❤ You do a job testing and benchmarking verity of system. I upgraded from a old i5 4460 with a GTX 1080 FE SYSTEM to a modern SYSTEM with a i9 12900k and RTX 4080 16gb. 4k60fps gamer and planning to upgrade to 120 fps or 240 fps 4k gaming. What are your thoughts? And my upgraded from sata to nvme ssd was a game changer.

[@RoKenX2]

ive got am i7 7700k oced to 4.8 and a 1080TI still going strong and i can Easly play hogwarts legacy without an issue at all 90+ FPS no problem maybe not top settings but very very playable honestly my i7 7700k is doing so fine right now i may wait till the 14/15th gen to upgrade at this point.... also edit for stating i am running 1440p .... so tech if your listening ... try to overclock it to 4.8 or even 5.0 and try it with a 1080TI .... its much much better

[@copetimusmaximus3363]

Have a look at "coffee time", after a bit of tinkering you'll be able to put a 9900k in your board, if necessary🤓

[@DrunkenMalkavian]

i7700K 1080 Ti bros unite!

[@TechDeals]

Glad you're enjoying it... The overclock doesn't hurt, but it helps less than you think. From 4.2GHz to 4.8GHz is a 600MHz change, or about a 7% real world uplift since nothing else gets faster. The real solution is a new platform. I know you're enjoying it, but you would probably fall down shocked if you ran the same game, same GPU, and same settings on a i7-13700K. The difference is real.

[@davidkjellsson9081]

I had a 7700(non-k) and 1080 ti and 32 GB 2400 mhz ram went to a 5950x and 3080 ti and 128 GB 3200 mhz ram and 2tb nvme pcie 4.0 and it was insane the difference its like living on another planet, its madness. I can do anything now and not care about if the performance is enough. I just launch a game, max out settings at 4k and it plays nicely.

[@raleralic705]

I remember watching your videos to swap out an old processor for a new one, and you helped me choose the 7700k that I still use today. Now it's time for a new cpu, I already have a 3070 but I notice it's not getting enough use because of the cpu. what would you recommend as a replacement, I was thinking 13600k.

[@deimosok2003]

4K Gaming: 13600K 2K Gaming: 13700K 1080P Gaming: 13900K or 12900K (If budget is an issue)

[@raleralic705]

@@deimosok2003 You've got to be kidding me, why should I get a 13900 for 1080p?

[@FastLikePuma]

I watched your video a month and I started to mourn the snappyness and freshness of a new machine I didnt have compared to my 2016 OMEN i7/gtx1080. I would say browsing though explorer and my files is a great improvement. it still takes a sec to load my icons but at least it loads them. My old machine had a lot of time to work its kinks. My new machi i7 13 gen rtx4070 is going to growing pains. Good times with my old machine. Thanks for the push I needed to build a new one.

[@cptsmoke0001]

Men, this is almost like my current set up. The i7-7700k is still chooching great. But 2024 will be the upgrad time for me most likely. Currently trying to squeeze every fps, i play mainly DayZ . Any fellow DayZ lovers who could guide me to perfect settings? 😊

[@alexg9155]

My 6700K @ 4.5ghz all cores is more than good enough for Hogwarts Legacy, with a faster GPU (5700XT). It sits at 60% usage in Hogsmeade, high settings 1080p 80-90 fps, ultra 60-70.There are a few stutters here and there, but they are engine related. 6th and 7th gen i7 are fine for everything as long as you don't ask for 120+ fps figures in new games.

[@sodiqlawal7309]

I only play for 30+ fps on single players games As long as I can get above 30+ all the time I'm fine

[@trashcan7140]

Oh snap I still have the same exact pc, same graphics card too, as the old one. Thats wild that youre still uploading, I was thinking about upgrading since my cousin keeps showing off their "Ray Tracing", gonna save money up and try to upgrade to high end PC. Time to research parts again.

[@ElladanKenet]

Interesting. I had a 7600k. It was pretty nice back in 2017, but by 2020 I was really starting to get tired of it. In hindsight, I was a lot more frustrated with my GTX 960. Even at 720p, it was starting to struggle.

[@babyhandsthegreat]

I feeel ya, I used to rock the 4th gen I5 with the 950.

[@drago1943]

This CPU the i7-7700K plays Hogwarts Legacy just fine on a 3060ti avg around 75 FPS, so what are you talking about ? Also Starfield, battlefield 2042 and BG3 all running just fine.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

you havent had the 10940X yet which is what ive got currently, HUGE difference omg ^^ but it isnt bout FPS but ppl still think this the only or the messurment when in fact a CPU is so much more complicated thats why its called Central Processing Unit bro ^^ my 7820X in my second PC would do even a lot better then a 4core anything ^^

[@shankyarora5110]

Well,Its 2024 and I'm still using my Intel i7 7700k as my primary gaming PC from past 7 years and I think I will use it for more 2 years because I don't really play story games a lot I play valorant and siege nd sometimes c strike and I think it's holding up very well :)

[@richmax13]

Hello, great video! Did you over clock the 7700k? I remember those cpu's loved being overclocked to 5ghz easy. If it wasn't over clocked, do you think it would make a big enough difference??

[@jovjov2525]

i still have one oc 4.8ghz paired with 2080ti strix and runs cool , but 1 friend have a new i9 with 4080 and is full butter

[@kamelibrahim6506]

@@jovjov2525 i7 7700 k or ryzen 5 2600 ?

[@GurraHammarby]

Just upgraded from a 6700k 4,8ghz OC, GTX 1080ti build. To a 13700k RTX4080 build. Nice uplift 😀 butt damn expensive 😞

[@zingwilder9989]

A 13700K with a 4080 and all the required peripherals that come along with it; oh yeah, that's a high dollar build!

[@takehirolol5962]

That's at least $2500.

[@zingwilder9989]

@@takehirolol5962 Depending on the board, RAM, PSU wattage, CPU cooler, storage capacity and case/fans, I'm going to guess more than $3K.

[@TechDeals]

That's a monster upgrade, enjoy!

[@GurraHammarby]

Case Phanteks Enthoo 719, Phanteks SK 140MM PWM D-RGB 3-Pack, Be quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1000W , ASUS ROG Strix Z790-F Gaming WIF , I7 13700k, EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB , Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL32 FURY , Storage "WD Black SN850X 1TB Gen 4 M.2" "PNY CS900 SATA SSD 1TB" + 2 Old Samsung 500MB SSD`s , GPU MSI RTX 4080, About "3600$" here in Sweden 😕

[@limitlessfactor]

Wow, I guess it is time for me to upgrade. I'm still on the Cadillac build (I7 8700K, 1080Ti, 64 gigs of Ram). I play on 1440p and I even had decent frames in VR (Index) on Digital Combat Simulator World. Let's hope there are some good Prime Sales but then again there is a strike at the docks.

[@DDA40Xman]

Hey Tech, used several of your build videos, great work. I bought a i9-9900k to replace at 2700. Might you consider doing one on the i9 9900K? Always look forward to your videos.

[@TechDeals]

The i9-9900K is still a current CPU, most people who own one don't need to replace it "just" yet... that day is coming, but it probably is after 14th gen launches next year. The benefit to waiting is the LGA1700 platform has ended, buying the next one will bring a number of nice improvements.

[@DDA40Xman]

@@TechDeals Thanks for the reply. The i7 7700K I built off your series died, so I got a Z390 & i9 9900K as all the other LGA1700 build components still function, so a budget thing for a replacement of my old 2700K machine. I was interested if you would do a like video of this one for the i9 9900K platforms as a viable game platform, particularly interested in what video card you recommend. I have ASUS STRIX RX480s from the i7 7700K I was going to use. Then for a new high end machine I went with a ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME & i9 12900KS. Still getting the other components for that one. I refuse to pay those insane prices for a Z790 and latest video cards! Thanks for what you and Rogue do for the mid budget community. Really like your build videos a lot.

[@JBlNN]

I built a $1500 PC as well when the 7700K dropped. I paired it with a EVGA 980, 16GB DDR3200 Corsair, 750w EVGA Bronze PSU, ASUS TUF MARK 1 MOBO, Phantek Evol M case, 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair 240mm AIO etc. I have since upgraded to 32GB Corsair, Gigabyte 3070 and another 500GB SSD. This build has lasted me nearly 6 years, but I can tell my CPU is bottlenecking the 3070 pretty badly since some games are only using about 40% of my GPU. I'm going to be building a new PC with a 14700K, 32GB DDR5 6000 etc. etc. I'm hoping to see a big boost in FPS. Then eventually will be getting the RTX 5xxx when they release in the next year or two, then ill be selling my 7700K build for approx. $800.

[@datonederpguy1005]

Would love to see a "death of 4 core machines", I too agree that even 6 cores doesn't cut it. I think 8 cores should be the minimum, along with 32gb of ram! Anyways, keep up the great work Tech!

[@TechDeals]

A video titled, "Why 8 cores and 32GB of RAM is the new minimum" would get SO MUCH HATE... mostly from people who are broke and want to be told their 8 year old PCs are fine. The irony... it is really not that expensive to do anymore, a R7 5700X and 32GB of DDR4-3600 is under $300 total. Add a B550 for $100 ish and you're at $400.

[@datonederpguy1005]

@Tech Deals Exactly, it's very inexpensive now than it was a short handful of years ago! I have a around 6-7 friends that game on pc and specifically all have r5 3600x's. Great cpu, especially for its time, but I've told them time and time again to either upgrade to an 8 core, as they haven't had the snappiest gameplay. That being said around half of em have only 16gb of ram and well suffice to say they've had a good amount of problems in various titles. Most notably crashing when the game requires 16gb min, and is running alongside 10 chrome tabs open, including discord and a handful of game launchers.

[@ahmadjmms]

Great test. Did you delid the cpu IHS ?

[@laterbiatch3004]

def came here for the tryp in the memory lane, just replaced my 7 year old build with 7700k and 1080ti last month for a new build with a 13900k / 4080 and already feel nostalgic for my old build felt so proud when i built it, and not gonna lie it would play everygame at 1080p ofc many new tittles wouldn't reach the desired 144fps to match the monitor refresh rate but if u dont mind to playing on 50/110 fps on new tittles on low settings it still can perform and usually cheap now PS i played overwatch 2 at 1080p normal settings 140 fps no problem

[@wrusst]

Be interesting to bench a modern 4 core like a 13100f . Although I agree but it be nice to bench mark a modern 4 core on modern games Vs old 4 cores on modern games on an apples to apples although vastly different purchase prices

[@TechDeals]

You're not the first person to ask for that... or to say it would be interesting. I struggle to do it because I wouldn't suggest a i3 build for gaming today. The cost of the boards and rebuilding the PC is just not worth it. The lowest end chip I'd build a new PC around is the i5-13600K. It's $300 and will last for many years.

[@wrusst]

@@TechDeals you wouldn't recommend a 7700k either , so I was only suggesting it as an experiment to prove your core hypothesis which I think your right on btw. If it's for content get one use or a 12100 used . Do the test suite sell it and drop in the 13600 after or even better show why you'd want the 13600 over the 12/13100 comparing the 3 (7700 , 13100,13600) . Then just sell the CPU after if bought used. You'd probably end up on a 0 sum for extra channel content . I wonder if the 13100 migh have more multicore than a 3600 /5600? I don't know

[@lanoche]

7700k and RTX 2070, it was a GTX1080 but I got a 2070 as a hand me down. This was my build till I switched to a Ryzen 7800X3D and RTX4070 Super in July 2024.

[@TheClonemate]

7700K-1080TI...with 32Gb DDR4 2400 MHZ never had an issue...finally upgrading 😁😁

[@loneforest6541]

One of the legendary CPU of Intel

[@Obi1KB2]

This is my favorite computer guy ! but where is bloopers? BOOOO

[@cybersamiches4028]

Boopers

[@TechDeals]

A thousand pardons... really didn't have many this time, most of this was done in one take.

[@Obi1KB2]

@@TechDeals I tried to edit 12 minute video about week ago, and amount of time and brainstorming it required from me was insane ! - with all respect I appreciate your hard work on them ! you da man !

[@just.for.fun.n]

Hello, you haven't mention if the 7700K was running Stock or OC'd plz Reply 🙏

[@IsusovMagarac]

I'm on 7700k @ 5.0GHz and 3080ti, I know I'm crazy 😅😅

[@notanithefox]

working on getting a i7-7700k as i have a i5-6500. the i5 is better than the i3-6100 however even with double the cores games still struggle and stutter. i7 from what i hear about it is itll help a lot. It wont be perfect but itll be much better. i got the rx 580 as a gpu

[@TawNY1337]

I have a 7700k, bought it when it was the creme de la creme. Now i clearly need to upgrade it. Should buy a new pc now or ahould i wait for the end of the year for the new intel cpus?

[@slooomy95]

Hi there great video I have amd 1700 And GTX 1060 What should I upgrade Or should I replace my PC

[@asaptherm]

What’s your budget I’ll build you something

[@aerions]

ditch that first gen AMD ryzen ASAP , and try to get a ryzen 5 5600x in there at a minimum. Doesn't have to be a completely new pc but a lot goes into that decision. I'd upgrade that gpu to something a little bit better but the ryzen 1700 was the bigger concern, something like a rx 6600 or rtx 3060 would be a nice upgrade. If going used I wouldn't mind myself something like a 2060/2070, or something else even like a 1080 ti if you don't mind the power draw and lack of dlss. Best of luck!!!

[@zingwilder9989]

If you have a B450 MB, you can very affordably upgrade to a more current CPU, such as a Ryzen 5 5600, or X version. As far as your GPU goes, it will depend on what you need to do with it. A substantial upgrade could cost between $550 and $600 (US), providing no PSU wattage increase is required. Nonetheless, everything will revolve around your budget.

[@bodasactra]

For best budget: Ryzen 7 5700 non X and a used 6700XT or 6800XT. Six cores will be sweating new gen games this year, Unreal Engine 5. Go 8 core minimum with no doubts. For best build on AM4: Ryzen 7 5800X3D, its as good or better than 7000 CPUs for games. The GPU here is very tricky because new AMD RX 7000 and Nvidia RTX4000 mid range GPUs are arriving soon but last gen AMD GPUs are insanely cheap, especially used. You could get a 6800XT used for say $350 but then the RX 7700XT arrives at $500 but, its faster and new. The RTX4060 could be faster but the price will be premium. Personally, I would wait until June to scope the new RX 7000/RTX4000 mid range parts. If I had to buy now I would go used 6800XT. Its a tough decision under the circumstances. just don't buy a 6 core, Hogwarts, Callisto, Plagues Tale, Spider Man, are all pushing 70-85% utilization on those. Its the end of the line for 6 core.

[@takehirolol5962]

You need both upgrades on the GPU and CPU. Taking into a possible geographical consideration, for the CPU at least a Ryzen 5 5500. For the GPU, if possible and available, a RX 6600. This is to at least play modern games at 1080p High and average 60 FPS.

[@metabang03]

I don't think Nvidia controll panel and windows settings are optimized since this is a CLEAN install. Optimize them and expect 30-100%more fps in games

[@Roll_the_Bones]

Yup, my old 7700HQ Omen laptop 16GB 2400 (Iknow, it's not a 7700K, obviously...) was running on an egpu from 2019 with a 2060, then a 3060Ti, and was extended to it's absolute max with cpu under-volting. The 3060Ti is the highest practical I think, for a 40gbps TB3/4 egpu, and this rig gave me a playable 110-120 fps 1440P on my regular 64-bit med-tech multi-player online game. Upgrading to a DT Z690, 12100, 32GB 3600C16 DDR4, but same 30360Ti gpu, I now see 210+ fps on the same game & max settings. Next yr maybe a 500USD 5060Ti 16GB 🙏 can drop in, then a 13600/13700K when needed. Things alway move on, but you can step up in stages to get the max life out of your existing components, at the lowest possible cost.

[@uRstoopid]

I have a I7-7700K paired with the EVGA GTX 1060 3Gb edition, I am looking for better replacement to the GPU since it is barely reaching 30fps on all modern games with video settings at the lowest. What do you recommend? I only have budget to replace the GPU, not build a new machine.

[@FastLikePuma]

The new machine comment made me want to cry. Got my 7700k + 1080 omen from 2017

[@YouKnowWh0ooo]

Compare the 7700k vs AMD 3300X!!

[@TechDeals]

The 3300X is faster than the 7700K, by a little bit... unless you overclock the 7700K to 5GHz in which case it is a little faster...

[@SiXiam]

Was thinking of upgrading my i5-6600 to to the 7700k. It is only like $100 for the cpu. I play at 1080P with my GTX 1070 so I've been slow to build a new pc. Getting to almost 8 years on my i5-6600. Not even a k!

[@EinFusch]

I followed your videos to set up my 7700k back in 2017 and im watching this now still on the same machine with no money to update, but i can still play cyberpunk so thats okey :)

[@sergioe4982]

Man, I miss your rantings about current and future cpus, gpus...

[@yiayango]

Thank you for doing this video!!!! I have a similar build z270 motherboard, i7-7700k, and 1070ti. My video card stopped working recently, so I replaced it with a RX 7600. It still runs like a champ, but I will upgrade the memory to 32g. I do have a question for you, is it worth it to upgrade the CPU to an i9-9900k or save my money and leave the 1151 sockets behind.

[@liamkav214]

Still rocking a I7-3930K O/C to 4.1 and a 2070 Super at 1440p, granted don't play newest games, but as a "older" gamer, still rocks. Will upgrade in future, OR maybe not. Not sure you have a P9X79 Pro and a I7-3930K at hand, but for us, again, "older" gamers, it still seems to rock. Don't play Hogwarts, etc, but, tbh, wouldn't be surprised if it still can be playable at 1440p. 🙂

[@retrosean199]

I have seen too many comments from people complaining that new game Z won't run well and it was because they figured it was good enough to put a 3090 onto a computer like this one. Maybe for future 'how well does this old system with a few upgrades still work' you could also show what happens if you turn the settings down a little bit, is it still OK, or are there enough stutters and hitches that it's really not.

[@oldgamer1330]

Any idea of how the 7700k handles Farcry 6, I am still running a 3770 but it is at 95% most of the time.

[@003geclipse]

It's almost 2025 and I'm currently using my old pc I 7 7700k b250 gaming board 16gb ram with a 4070 ti. It performs great on ats and ets2 also farm sim 22.

[@Jon8RFC]

Could you revisit this and disable spectre and meltdown patches? Use GRC's Inspectre

[@felixcosty]

Thanks for the video. Would like to see the AMD 2600, this was the cpu I was going to build on then covid and could not buy anything unless you wanted to over spend. After covid got the 5800x it was $40 more then the 5700. The 2600 would have gotten the 5800x3d upgrade. Just want to see how far the 2600 would go.

[@yeezystreetteam]

im still running the i5-6500 and a gtx 970. im bottlenecking out the ass on both ends, but i'm bidding on a $66 i7-7700k before i start building a brand new rig. if i get it and sell my 6500 for ~$25, it's a $50 upgrade that should solve half the problem (hopefully). i have a z170 board so the 7700k is the final cpu that is compatible. the gpu is a different story. i might actually throw down on modern card and upgrade the rest of the pc later. no 1440p for me until i commit to a new rig

[@rennanfonseca7367]

Overclocking my 7700k to 5Ghz helps with frame stutters a lot. Thanks for the content!

[@trancebass2741]

Hi, I have a liquid cooled 7700k can you recommend some overclock settings? I'm a total newb with overclocking

[@silentzedsorrow]

I love my i7 7700k. I got the rtx 2070 too. And game on 1080p probably won't be upgrading anytime soon as I play starfield on ultra and it pulls a solid 60fps or more on just about everything I play even hogwarts.

[@88specv]

it's nice to know Mr. tech deal is a man of culture :)

[@saulreynoso4371]

Wow. You just made me realize that I have to upgrade. This was a great video. I guess I will say goodbye to my 7700k.

[@Hermaticlus]

I am in the prcoess of upgrading from a 7700k to the 7800x3d. My RTX 3080 needs a new partner to play with. All parts is home except for the chassi (Going for the Fractal North) and I'm looking forward to build a new machine and hope to feel the difference!

[@TheAstorre]

I am thinking of doing the same, how did it end up?

[@Hermaticlus]

@@TheAstorre I have not gotten the case yet, and I don't want to put the parts in the old one just to move them later. So no tests done yet. But! The case should arrive tomorrow if nothing unexpected happens. I will update if I remember. :)

[@indi1st517]

Great video. I have the i5 7600K with the gtx 1060, so this video is my upgrade path. So, just one question: would I be able to play Hogwarts Legacy on 1080p with this setup?

[@takehirolol5962]

I would invest on a new platform, but the i7 7700k still holds well. About the 1060...use FSR but enjoy the blurry visuals. Get at least a RX 6600.

[@indi1st517]

@@takehirolol5962 Thx for the reply.

[@takehirolol5962]

@@indi1st517 You are welcome.

[@copetimusmaximus3363]

I'd suggest to "coffee mod" your board and install 9900k🤓 Or something like QQLS QQLT.

[@TechDeals]

Sadly the inability to install an i9-9900K on that board really kills that upgrade path. An i7-7700K adds hyperthreading, but otherwise the platform is the same. If you can find the chip for $75 or so, sure, go for it, but really the whole PC is due for replacement.

[@theHardwareBench]

When I get the 7700K on the bench and test it properly with Starfield we will know for sure. What I can say is it runs best on my 10900K running with 4 cores. Will also be interesting to see what happens when I turn cores off on my Ryzen 7.

[@esswasim]

I bought Ryzen 1600 when 7700k reviews were crazy and everyone was recommending one, and I still use Ryzen 1600 and My system is so snappy and I face no trouble I even play the most demanding game Escape from Tarkov using same machine and it plays great except for Streets of Tarkov Map. So for Streets I plan to upgrade to 5600x and keep my RX 580 4gb in my pc until I can upgrade Gpu too. If It wasnt for Escape from Tarkov new map, I think I wouldn't even need a new CPU.

[@TechDeals]

A 5600X will surprise you in how much faster it really is. May I suggest a 5700X if you can swing it.

[@riecksmoov]

I’m confused, I have a 3080 and a 7700k and I get 60 fps 4k on every game including hogwarts legacy… I don’t see how there is a need to upgrade. I can’t find any games that I can’t max out. I can even run the new path tracing versjon of cyber punk maxed out at 40fps.. I feel the 7700k is just fine until games start forcing me to lower settings.

[@TechDeals]

Your i7-7700K will run games, but that doesn't mean it runs them well. You can't run Hogwarts Legacy smoothly maxed out on that hardware. If you think it is, then, respectfully, you don't know what smooth is. 1% lows and frame times are a thing...

[@riecksmoov]

@@TechDeals lol I am almost 50 years old, I been gaming since I was 8, possibly since before you were born? Lol I been building my own rigs for more than 20 years and been tinkering with graphics, over clocking etc for a long time. I’m pretty sure I know what 60 fps looks like. But with dlss on performance mode, yes I do get an extremely rare drop of a few frames but it is negligible. Certainly not enough to recommend people go out and upgrade their entire rig or buy a completely new one. And this is without overclocking btw.. If I’m not mistaken, even folks with way beyond recommended cpu was having some issues with this game? but to make a hardline suggestion that folks go out and buy a new rig and present it as though I will be getting horrible frame rates is overkill in my opinion. And it does infact run every game I throw at it maxed out at 60 fps. I been looking for a reason to upgrade and can’t find one. Love the content but I respectfully disagree with your assessment here. Also, have you tried it again since all the patches? May make a huge difference. optimization is a thing..

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

@@TechDeals lol give riecksmoov a my 7820X even not even my 10940 and he would be blown lol ^^ ppl like that simply havent had used any better to say something bout it ^^

[@autumnjeserich2689]

no way I'd go less than 8 cores these days. My 6 core 12 thread chip pegs out every time I compile freecad and it takes forever. Since I have to be present to input my password because sudo times out before it can complete, it takes a significant chunk of my day(about 45 mins) so my aim for my next build is 12 cores to speed up compiling

[@paulkris7]

Can you do a video on that pre-built PC with an i5-9400? I would like to see how a 6-core CPU without hyperthreading performs nowadays, especially compared to a 4-core 8-thread.

[@rafasobol4997]

I'll say this way at the first I wanted to upgrade my i7 7700 with some rtx 3070,but someone in the KZbin comments told me that's sensless go get new PC.I wont lie here if I say that today's prices of PC parts are crazy expensive spending about 8000 PLN (around 1 840 USD) to mid range PC is just,you know what :)

[@Dutch800]

I am still running a 7700k system, I built after watching one of your build videos back in the day. Your video's were very helpful.

[@Niskan40]

Looking to upgrade now, my 7700K is still going strong 5 years later, but mixing it with a 3080 is not great. That video card is so badly limited by the CPU it's crazy.

[@lateralus6512]

What screen resolution are you playing at? If you’re still on 1080p then yes you’ll bottle neck, but at 4k you might be fine with that combination.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

@@lateralus6512 no hes not fine bro, deffinetly not, this time arround with new games higher res dosent mean lower cpu usage anymore that ship has sunk a while ago cuz your spouding knowledge from 2014 when this was all true but 10years later it isnt anymore and mroe cores do help always :P obvoiusly not iv one parts 10 yr old but 14 cores and the others are just 4 yrs old ;)

[@paulreeves1787]

8 months ago I built my son a pc with 8600k, 2060 super, 16gb ram, runs mw3 high settings 27" 1080p screen @ 85 hz (any higher fps temps creep past 75), its very playable dont see why ppl are buying these new cards when 20xx/30xx are doing the job with no problems.

[@eyo8766]

I'd upgrade if I wanted to. I've already swapped out my really old 1060 for a 2060 super, but now Im being held back by the cpu. The problem is that I need a new motherboard which entails new everything to support a cpu with more than 4 cores which costs money and money is money

[@Collin_J]

I've been playing around with a 6600K vs a 5600X3D in my main system. It's interesting to see what usage looks like depending on the graphics card dropped in the system. I need to look into the "gpu waiting" metrics that GN is starting to use

[@smcremix8791]

i had this same setup and upgraded to a RTX 3080 & Ryzen 9 7900X Dell 34"" 1440 ultrawide

[@joeschmo2693]

I'm building one now. Got a decent deal on a used 3080, building around that. What are your other parts?

[@smcremix8791]

@@joeschmo2693 Ryzen 7900x, Asrock x670e steel legend, 32gb ddr5 Gskill, 2tb m.2, RTX 3080 10gb

[@TechDeals]

Nice! That's a beast mode upgrade!

[@cptwhite]

Doing AMD a disservice to suggest the RX 6700 XT is similar in performance to an RTX 2070. According to techpowerup it's about 35% faster, meaning it's somewhere just above an RTX 2080 Super (about 5% faster than the 2080 Super). The RTX 2070 is more closely matched with an RX 6600.

[@SpacelsFake]

I just upgraded to an 8700 non-k, from a 4790k Which chipset would you recommend going with z390 z370 or b360?

[@UberFeetz]

I have a 7700k with a RX580 8gb. On low settings I get about 140-165 frames at 1080 in apex. Fortnite and overwatch is constant 165. I don’t care for games to look good, I care about performance. Probably because I don’t have a choice lol

[@Manterok]

I'm just trying to get a pc to play project Zomboid without lag lmao. Jesus Christ. I have an FX-6300 and a Radeon R7 200 series...i bought it on Newegg like 8 years ago...$600...it plays a few games, but none of them without lag lmao man I just been dreaming...