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[@Playingwith3D]

when the 5800x came out I had the wonderful idea to reapply some thermal paste on my 2700x. When I pulled the cooler off it left two pins behind. Yeah, forced upgrade time. Thanks to my big brain move. But now that I've owned it for two years Im pretty happy with it, but as you can see by the comment. I am an idiot.

[@TechDeals]

We are all human! :)

[@surfx4804]

That's how I upgraded from a 2600x to a 3700x. Now I warm up the PC/CPU and give the cooler a gentle wiggle side to side to break the thermal paste.

[@Playingwith3D]

@@surfx4804 It would be nice for once not to have to learn every lesson the hard way though. lol

[@gabemoothart7943]

Yeah, always twist to break the seal first, don't pull.

[@no.no.4680]

@@Playingwith3D I did everything right and I still managed to pull the CPU out with the cooler. It was a fresh coat of paste too, because I was pulling the cooler to fix a mistake. Don’t beat yourself up too hard.

[@festivus7065]

AM4: the gift that keeps on giving

[@DeanClean42069]

Indeed

[@skarletice7768]

In college I would build PCs for cash and give parts advice my number one question was "will that bottleneck? , oh then I don't want that one" I printed out a couple cards with what bottleneck meant cuz I was tired of explaining it.

[@DeanClean42069]

What I love about the AM4 platform over AM5 is the fact that the VRMs are strong and very long lasting so far. AM4 has had a long lifespan because of good voltage regulators. AM5 had a rocky start with motherboard manufacturers trying to push boards out with bad bioses and bad vrms that may have caused fires/explosions so I stuck with AM4 because its tried and true. I mean AM5 has gotten way better with the emergency bios updates and recalls/RMAs, now that they've figured out what was going wrong AM5 is definitely coming back strong. But I'm still glad I stuck with AM4 for right now because I never am first to jump so quick to a new standard until its been "perfected" so to speak. Its like buying an older car vs. buying a newer car. I prefer the low mileage older car that may have been a newer make of that car (e.g. near the last of its make before they switch styles of the car, usually they'll do like a decade or so of a certain style of a car, then they'll change it up and do another decade on a new design) I like getting late models on old designs because those are usually the things that are engineered the best, because the core base of whatever it is has had several brains wrap around how to make whatever it is BETTER before the new make is released. Same applies to CPUs.

[@StoneXue]

I snap bought a 5900X 6 weeks ago on Amazon because I had not paid attention at all to what pricing was going on and amazon just showed me "hey, look, want wanna these for 50% off" Great upgrade from my 3800X.

[@riseevil7131]

An amazing CPU indeed. FPS barely goes higher than my old 3700X in average percentage, but oh boy it does increase the framerate and frame time of the (-1% low) by a large margin, reducing significantly any stuttering.😁

[@mattato8272]

upgraded my 3600 to a 5900x and the difference was night and day in terms of overall system responsiveness. i only have an rtx 3060 12gb, but i only upgraded because i was able to pick up the 5900x for $180 brand new on amazon back in early january 🤭

[@coolworld3966]

I have a ryzen 5 3600x with a rtx 3060 is it worth upgrading the cpu for 1080p gaming?

[@mattato8272]

@@coolworld3966 to be completely honest, the gaming performance boosts were noticable but only in some games. i don't game as much as i used to, but warzone when i do play is a lot smoother as well as my replays of spider-man miles morales. i do play fortnite everynow and then and to be honest, playing with everything on low is pretty similar to my 3600, if anything i don't get random stutters from time to time so it's definitely a lot SMOOTHER than it used to be.

[@DamyLv]

5700x and 6700xt is my current config for 144hz 1440p gaming and I'm so happy with it

[@Playingwith3D]

My son owns a PS5 and I have the 5800x with a 6750xt and I find they both play about the same performance. I feel I have the edge ever so slightly in the graphics because of the extra control you have with the PC settings.

[@Hangmen13official]

Have nearly similar setup except mine is a RX 6750 XT. This is currently the best midrange 1440p combo for AM4 users, and there is still space for X3D CPUs and potentially a jump to RX 7800 XT once the RX 8000 series comes out, and the RX 7000 series starts filling in the second hand market.

[@DeanClean42069]

Ryzen 5700x3d and Radeon RX7600 for me. I might not get as many ghz as you and your CPU might be better priced than mine (holy shit 170ish dollars now?) But man I'm getting good framerates, even if I can't overclock. I'm pretty happy with my build. AM4 is pretty stout man.

[@Playingwith3D]

@@Hangmen13official you just described the upgrade route I'm taking also. I initially wanted a 6800xt but this was in the middle of covid, I was lucky to even get a 6750 at the time. 6800xts were non existent.

[@janzki83]

R5 2600 to 7 5700x was really nice boost, same time installed better cpu cooler. Game crashes stopped on Resident evil 4 remake after cpu upgrade.

[@nicolaspous7740]

In my case, I upgraded from a 3700X to a 5700X while having a 6700XT, but now I bought a 3080 Ti. I mainly play CS:GO in competitive resolution and config. or Warzone in native resolution, and I have a 1440p 165Hz monitor. In a situation like this, should I switch to an X3D? Thanks.

[@metalsquid]

I built a 3700x + 5700XT in 2019. Replaced the 5700XT with a 7900XTX now to play current AAA at 4k120 high settings. And it's great but I would like better 1% lows. Would the 14700k be a 'wow' upgrade from the 3700x? I have 64GB DDR4 and run 2 x 4k + 2 x 1440p monitors. Or would the 5700x be "good enough" to extend it for another year or two? I wanna be ready for stuff like Black Myth Wukong.

[@Hypershell]

It's comforting to hear Tech sing the 5700X's praises since I'm downgrading to it. Broke a pin on my 5950X while replacing a bad motherboard. Of course, my GPU is a 3070, so outside of crying a little when I run 7zip once a month I probably won't notice. It was just a YOLO purchase, and it was nice to never have to care what else was running.

[@atharhazrianto1329]

is it worth upgrading from 5700x to the x3d version? im playing in 1440p with 7800xt

[@kramnull8962]

To add insult to injury I've seen the 7600 with 60% usage for the entire game, sometimes up to 79%. 6 cores are getting a workout in some of these newer titles. Of course that's dependent upon background tasks as well, but 6 cores are being harassed at an alarming rate. You add DLSS or FSR/AFMF and you are going to add 20% more CPU usage...

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

not even me and Tech could have said it better 😘👌

[@joes.3083]

this is the exact question i was asking myself. I'mma get that 5700x for cheap and sell my 3700x on ebay.

[@glennpatrickdomingo584]

how about if I have a 5600x with 7800xt playing at 1440p, will I benefit if I upgrade to 5700x3d/5800x3d? mainly playing esports titles

[@mixit2413]

this was why I went from 5600g to 5900x even though the 5800x3d was the same price because for gaming because I have a 6600xt running pro drivers I would not see any real difference and the 5900x is better workstation chip.

[@sky173]

I have a 3600X, a 2060 Super, and a limited budget. I normally play flight simulations (MSFS). I'd like an immediate performance boost. What could I do to upgrade/replace this PC over time with $1500 now, and another $1500 in a year? (AMD + Nvidia only) My eyes aren't good enough to enjoy 4K.

[@MigraineBoy411]

Went from 1600x to 5600x a few weeks ago. Originally wanted a 5700x but was an equivalent 40USD more expensive than how much I got the 5600x for here in the Philippines. But thank goodness for AM4, I only paid for a new proc and didn't have to put 1000USD on the new AM5 platform.

[@darthwiizius]

I bought the cheapest 6 core Zen 3 part to replace my cheapest 8 core Zen part in my B450 board. Shocking how much smoother it runs. It's only running a 2060S so there's not a lot of point upgrading it.

[@crzyces1693]

I'm going to stick a 5090 or 5080 in my current 5800X system at the end of the year. If I go with a 5080 bc the 5090's are over $2200 or they are sold out before I get to grab one then I'll get a 4K OLED 32" as well. If not the display will have to wait until the following month (assuming they are still in the $1000-$1500 area). *_IF_* the CPU is bottlenecking games then I'll swap that out the month after that, but I have a feeling it won't be much of an issue. The _lightest_ graphics game I've played in the last 3 years is Baldur's Gate 3. Next would be the FFVII Remake Intergrade. I prefer using RT when it is implemented well and I can run it at 1440P w/high details. *Unfortunately* I have a 3080 FE atm and that 10GB of RAM just gets crushed when RT is set to anything above medium w/quality DLSS. EI. high settings in Cyberpunk drops me from over 100FPS to the low 30's. Pathracing? Same thing, low 30's, with the CPU barely being taxed as the GPU isn't sure what to do, spiking all over the place, ramping up to 100%, then down to 50, up to 99, down to 75 etc because it is waiting on the bloody V/RAM. My sysmem use will jump between 12GB and 19GB randomly. It's almost humorous, in a very sad way. I was so close to just buying a 4080 Super but had to remind myself that just bc you can buy something it does not make it an intelligent purchase, and the performance jump considering the price increase and the fact that we are two-thirds of the way through the generation make it a poor investment for anyone who has a working card and is not using said card for professional applications. Unless they make, idk, say $250K/yr after essential bills. $2K/wk in disposable income seems reasonable to blow $1k on a whim for something you're going to replace in 6 months anyway. Since I'm a ways away from $2K/wk disposable, just keeping the money in the sock drawer and tossing a handful of money in there every week towards the OLED seems like the way to go. Now watch, I'll finally get all of the upgrades set and they'll do a Mass Effect Legendary Edition style remake on the Deus Ex games which will run at 4K 100FPS/High Settings on a 5700XT and in turn keep me busy for the following 6 months...never fails. I upgrade my GPU and I end up putting 200 hours into a game that would have ran fantastic on my old one. _sigh_ Oh well, either way, this 10GB of VRAM has been a bottleneck for over a year at this point so a swap is necessary. My son plays at 1080P and plays almost exclusively shooters, Skyrim and Madden so my current 3080 should be more than enough for the games he's into.

[@pamus6242]

An apt upgrade from a 3700x would be the 5900x or 5950x. Anything else would be a wash.

[@dalesplitstone6276]

If all you do is gaming, even the 5900X would be a waste.

[@tim3172]

Too much Linux... read "apt upgrade" and was like... isn't it apt-get upgrade (/update)?

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

sudo apt-get install latest hardware

[@pamus6242]

@@tim3172 S**T !! Haven't used windows in over 20 years. Used BSD for 5 back in the 2010s. Now I just stick with Tumbleweed and Kinoite. I'm Pathetic.

[@dalesplitstone6276]

I just checked Amazon. The 5700X is $167.00. I have read that pricing on Amazon varies depending on past purchases, what is in your shopping list, and where you are located..

[@ElladanKenet]

Great video. Helpful for the ongoing research.

[@jonathonphillips2999]

Hey Rogue and Tech. I've been watching you videos for a while thanks for all the advise on PC's. I'm on the dad of 3 budget. I game currently on a Ryzen 5600nonx ,32gigs 3600 cl16 ram ,MSI b550 gaming edge MB, rx6600 and MSI 1440p monitor( First system i've built since 1998). I'd like to stay on my am4 little bit longer and jump up to 1440p graphics and build a new system once i get more money saved up( 2 year save time). would my 5600 handle a 7800xt should i try too stay within the 6000 series cards. I mainly play COD, sport titles and some other titles like Icarus with my kids. Thanks guy your awesome

[@mandyulat1933]

I have a 5700x on a b550m auros elite, 32gb of ram, 7800xt. I am also a system developer (Visual studio + sql) with 3 monitors, (144hz ultrawide 1440p, 1080p 185hz , 1080p 75hz). I mainly play state of decay 2, the witcher, Metro series, tomb raider series and other AAA games on steam using my ultrawide 144hz 1440p or on 1080p 185hz. I just can't reach that 144fps on my ultrawide even on high settings only. Is it worth it to upgrade to 5800x3d or should i Just wait for the AM5 cpu, mobo and ram prices to go down? Thank you for good answers in advance.

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Did the same 5700x upgrade to my son's PC last Xmas He had a 2600, wanted to get a 5800x3d, but with a 2060S he don't need it, and the price is ridiculously high at twice the 5700x price...

[@darkstarsergio]

about a week ago i change my 5950x with a 5800x3d, i mostly play pubg at very low settings at 1080p with an rtx 3070, the difference was nigh and day, almost stutter free, and gain like 50-60 fps in some parts, im really happy with the buy.

[@Kraven83]

I'm curious: what games do you play and at what resolution?

[@darkstarsergio]

@@Kraven83 mostly pubg at 1080p very low settings, but Even in the metro exodus enhanced benchmark at High settings with dlss Quality My fps bump a Lot, from 145 to 195 average, and the minimum from 102 to 139

[@enriquepadilla2542]

​@darkstarsergio yeah, FPS settings really lean towards that x3d.

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

My buddy talked me into upgrading my 5900X to a 5950x back in the day; then, maybe a year later or so the 5800X3D came out, and I somewhat regretted my purchase. Your comment is making me wish all the more that I would have waited for the 5800X3D

[@kramnull8962]

@@darkstarsergio Mainly you enhanced your fake frames. Not really your true performance. DLSS and FSR are trying to play 3 steps ahead of your every move, then when you change direction the system has to start all over again.

[@Keyaerts]

I upgraded my 2700X cpu to a 5700X (B450 motherboard) and upgraded my still good 6700XT to a great 7800XT. Very happy with the combo and I don't think the 7800XT is being bottlenecked. For me I think the 8000 series of Ryzen cpu's will also be a skip.

[@TheHangarHobbit]

I went from a 3600 to the 5700x which I lucked out and scored from $150 on amazon during one of their sales and I didn't think it would make that big a difference but...yeah going from two CCDs to 1 really does equal a pretty big kick in the pants. I have mine paired with 64Gb of RAM and a 6650XT and for 1080p I'm super happy and the Mrs is happily playing World Of Warships on my 3600 and RX580.

[@juanme555]

If you're on a 3rd world country and you have a semi-decent b450 board and you are still on a Ryzen 3 1200 or Ryzen 5 1600 or something like that , upgrading to a 5700X3D and holding it until the PS6 comes out seems like the most reasonable affordable path for a decent pc gaming experience.

[@kzxkzxkzx]

Hey there, I love your content and would love to hear your comment on my situation! Currently I got a 1600 AF on a B450 and a 6600 XT, 1080p 144hz monitor, I play all kinds of games (BG 3, Elden Ring, RDR 2, Cyberpunk 2077, Valorant, DotA 2, to name a few) and generally I am fine with 60 fps but in competitive games I obviously want the full 144. I plan to skip AM5 entirely, maybe a GPU upgrade in a year or two (something like a RTX 5060 or 5070), need a CPU upgrade now. Should I buy a 5600 for 115 €, a 5600X for 125 €, a 5700X for 160 €, a 5700X3D for 230 € or a 5800X3D for 270 €?

[@YahudiDestroyer]

if you plan to upgrade to a 5060 or even a 5070 u should get a 8core cpu (miniumum)so probably a 5700X3D but if you have enough money just wait and take a 5950X or the "new" 5900XT

[@kzxkzxkzx]

@@YahudiDestroyer Thanks for your answer! I’ve bought myself a 5800x3d in the meantime 😁

[@YahudiDestroyer]

@@kzxkzxkzx good choice!!

[@Xilent1]

I have the exact same setup 3700x/6700xt, but with an Ultrawide. I may go 5950x, but will upgrade to a 4080S soon. Definitely going RT. Any other suggestions would be welcome. Planning to play modern AAA games with RT.

[@millertime4x494]

5700x with a strix 3060ti at 1440p and she runs pretty decent but never hits my 144 htz monitors. Thinking of a 4070 soon. Thoughts?

[@ElladanKenet]

I got a similar answer in a recent video. Upgrade my 3700x to a 5700x, gpu to 4070 super, and get a 144hz monitor. Another two years longevity probably

[@coolworld3966]

well if your 3060ti is not always hitting 144fps all the time then yea

[@ElladanKenet]

@@coolworld3966 Definitely. Considering I actually have 1080p not 1440.

[@Trifler500]

I still like jumping between preset radio stations in the car so I can get introduced to new music. Otherwise I'd just listen to my playlist and in 10 years I would have no clue what music had come out.

[@righteousone8454]

Honestly, if I had 3700 Ryzen, I would upgrade to Ryzen 9 5950x, and calmly wait for 32 core AMD chip to come out In most cases you are sitting on older GPU if you have 3700 Ryzen OR I would wait for 9000 series, and that would be a significant boost to performance, but you are paying for motherboard, DDR5, cpu

[@DeanClean42069]

I got the Ryzen 7 5700x3d and its so damn fast man. My framerates are sky high. I'm not even joking most games get way over 100 fps. 108 fps on Red Dead 2. Between 150 to 200 fps on Fortnite. 120 fps on Diablo 4. between 90 to 130 fps on Baldur's Gate 3. 120-190 frames per second on Shadow of the Tomb Raider (surprises the hell out of me too, this is a graphically intensive game even though its a little older its holding up really well) and this is all on ultra, usually at 1080p upscaled to 4k (or FSR2 or FSR3 if its available for the game), with Fluid Motion Frames. I'm using an XTX Radeon RX7600, with 48 gigs Corsair DDR4 3200. I'm getting massive framerates. Sons of the Forest I'm seeing 110 fps. Its amazingly fast. The 5000 series Ryzens paired with the 7000 series Radeons make a good pairing. Fast as hell

[@fabianemde5029]

I just bought a 5700x and upgraded from my old 2700x paired with my Nvidia 2080 Ultra. The CPU will be delivered on tuesday and I hope that my microstutters I was experiencing in Fortnite will be fixed! You said much people upgraded their old am4 chips to newer 5700x chips and were happy with it, I hope it is! Thanks for your videos ;)

[@iansrven3023]

5700X3D or 5800X3D depending on regional pricing. Provided you have a GPU that will benefit or will upgrade GPU within 2-3 years. Otherwise you'll have to buy whole new system.

[@Carlos-wl5fn]

went 2600 to 5600, as I only play games, with a 2060 super. It did make a difference and I am ready to upgrade my GPU anytime, but ugh those prices and the mid level GPUs suck, maybe if the 4070 vanilla comes down a bit more

[@masonmanchester5003]

Picked up the microcenter exclusive 5600x3d, absolutely incredible chip for 199$. Paired with 32 GB and 6700xt

[@trueyinyang7941]

i need to upgrade my 1600af and 5500xt with a max budget of $600 for 1080pgaming , i got a 650w power supply. playing WOW, LE, POE

[@enriquepadilla2542]

5950x and 6800xt. 64GB RAM 2x2TB samsung ssds. With a (gasp) expensive B550 Motherboard.

[@RaaNgee]

I buy your opinion regarding the 5700x and 5800x3d, but if you buy the 5800x3d, it makes it possible to upgrade the graphics card in the future. It is an important matter to bear in mind if the user intends to do this in the future

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

i was thinking the 5700X3D or 5800X3D, perhaps sale his 6700 XT , slap at least a 7900 GRE but nothing more expensive than 7900 XTX, and then let that machine ride into the sunset, skip AM5 entirely, and then when AM7 launches build a new computer.

[@PadPoet]

I must be in the minority, I always go for more cores vs any X3D chip.

[@ryanvtec3885]

My brother has a ryzen 2600 might give him my old 5600x should make for a great upgrade

[@eilegz]

if rthe x3d chip would be cheaper its a option, but its still expensive, its not worth 100 dollars more to be honest

[@nathanhayball]

completely out of topic, but man are your teeth pristine

[@rpospeedwagon]

The x3D fans as a whole are the most "cultist" product fans other than Apple fans.

[@Kaypers]

Right now the 5600x is cheaper than the non-x… LOL

[@nostrum6410]

make sure you have the budget to buy another board when the firmware update fails

[@adamtajhassam9188]

This is all about BEING balanced. simple.

[@gander85852]

I have an asrock b450m pro4 motherboard with a ryzen 5 3600. And just upgraded my gpu from rx 7800xt from gtx 1070. Should i upgrade to 7 5000 series cpu

[@YahudiDestroyer]

yes u should. your gpu is bottleneck

[@Jay-bs7fd]

5800X and 3080 Ti. I am happy but I wish I had X3D instead

[@Retadin]

Unless you are a weird edge case, like me, playing World of Warcraft, I agree a 5800x3d is a waste with a lower tiered GPU. That 3d cache helps alot in 25+ man raids.

[@TechDeals]

That's fair... situations like large raids in MMOs do that sort of thing. SWTOR in operations and PvP is the same thing. Completely CPU bound.

[@Snafu2346]

I'm trying to find out what could have caused my 7800X3D to die in about 3 months. The Internal Memory Controller failed and I had to replace the chip. Before I replaced the chip I thought it might had been the mobo, the ram, only to find out it was the cpu. I had negative pbo on the curve optimizer which people me that it ...should not have had any effect. I did have amd expo its a 6400kit @CL32. But I capped the speed at 6000. I did have some cable extensions that I took off because they were not supplying power to my gpu properly. GPU worked fine once I went back to original PCIE cables. Someone at Microcenter told me that running a "undervolt" on the cpu, then an overclock on the RAM which is overvolting it can have adverse effect and could have caused an issue Maybe, maybe not. They said AM5 are "drama queens" with their RAM and just run stock jdec speeds at 4800 and not worth risking AMD's unreliable issues with RAM

[@twSimulations]

It is one of the best gaming CPUs on the AM4 platform. People with a first generation Ryzen CPU can use it without buying a new motherboard

[@evoLPFAN2011]

What is the minimum GPU you would buy to pair with a 7800X3D?

[@TechDeals]

4080 Super or RX 7900 XT If you go less, the 3D chip is kind of a waste.

[@bryanssj3949]

Avocado! 😶‍🌫️

[@goldenheartOh]

I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5950x to go with my 3090. My fps went up about 10% and the stutters reduced in quantity and size. Strangely, for Borderlands 3 resolutions under 4k, my usage on any single cpu thread never goes above 75% (usually 55-65%) & GPU usage is about that too. Must be an engine limitation? Another bit of Tech's advice I followed that helped reduce stutter was to increase RAM above 16gb. BL 3 recommended amount was only 16. Windows Task Manager said I only was using around 11, so I thought I was fine. After I upgraded ram, usage went up to 14gb & a chunk of stutters went away.

[@TechDeals]

Thanks for the feedback... Your experience is what I've been trying to tell everyone, but it doesn't show up in benchmark charts... You really have to feel it to believe it.

[@goldenheartOh]

@TechDeals np. Thank-you for sharing your insights & wisdom. You're my favorite KZbinr. You're not just about PC knowledge but also insights & wisdom to go along with it.

[@wayneosman8971]

To Tech Deals; I missed this live video yesterday and while watching this episode today Friday, March 22, 2024, remembering your review of the ASRock X670E Steel Legend paired with a 7700X, so I went for it, only to have a problem with this motherboard and returned it. I still use a MSi MEG B550 Unify X, W/5900X Overclocked to 4700MHz and a ASRock 6900 XT Formula OC. And a Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master W/Ryzen 7 5700X and an RTX 3090tiI, both for 1440P gaming with a Alienware AW2724DM Gaming Monitor - 27" QHD 180Hz. Do you still believe an upgrade is needed for these GPU's. I still have a Ryzen 7 7700X that I couldn't return. Knowing I would have to buy a Motherboard and RAM, would you still recommend upgrading to the ASRock.. I 'Liked" this video with a thumbs up as I do for all your videos. I subscribe and choose to watch "ALL" your videos when I can. AND Thank You, spending time making them

[@alexspeed8888]

The 3D vcache is just like RAM: Having more doesn't make your PC faster unless you didn't have enough. If your computer is using 20MB of cache, adding 64MB on top of your 32MB isn't going to help! Same goes for VRAM

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

When I think of bottleneck, I think of the situation with the singleplayer demo of the original Crysis. Once I figured out the command needed to bring up its own framerate counter, at the time, I had upgraded from an E6300, to a Q6600; from an 8800GTS to a GTX 285, and from 2GB of system RAM to 6GB (adding the 4GB in tandem). The framerate counter insisted I was getting 90-ish through the whole playthrough. But the whole experience felt like I was only getting like 10. Forget micro stutter, that was just the machine tripping over itself. Nowadays, I wouldn't touch any hybrid core CPU, both because I want to still use Windows 10 as long as I can, but also because I already had enough of that mess on phones and it's never felt satisfactory on there, either. _Why not Windows 11?_ No sound card I care about using, is supported yet. At this point I'm inclined to think that pc gaming is regressing in terms of audio for all we've advanced in terms of graphics. To use windows 10 with any new intel now, I have to disable the error cores immediately. So in that perspective, intel is still only selling a max of 8 real cores on their platforms.

[@adams4075]

I have a R5 5600 in my main. I use the rock-solid workhorse R5 3600 in my secondary. I have used the R5 3600 in the builds. In my fathers, 2 nephews all using the MSI b550m-VC Wi-Fi mobo. I want to build 2 more, a 5700x for editing with daVinci and an AM5 for a new gaming. But I only play World of Warcraft and World of Warships. I don't really feel the need it yet. I should upgrade the CPU in the secondary for when the g/f comes over she kicks me off my main PC. It has way better specs than the rest.

[@tomriley5790]

So my very old Crosshair VI 1800x system has failled (screen froze on restart posted once then froze at the windows screen, restarted again would not post). It seems like a bad time to build a whole new system now (which is what I'm really looking at at if I go for a modern AM5 processor and motherboard (so need ddr5) and a bigger powersupply at that point. So considering buying a Crosshair VII and a 5700x which will be pretty cheap.... Probably I'll do it and find it's the graphics card that's failled though :-)!

[@ticul151]

i recently buy a 7900xtx pair with my old 5800x an i wait for zen 5 to upgrade my cpu. i hope the ipc gain zen5 over zen4 worth waiting

[@SDAnime]

A few years ago I upgraded my 2700x to a 5800x3D and have been very happy with it and it still preforms great for me.

[@goldenheartOh]

23:07 yes. "bottleneck" stops being a bad word once you define the performance you are willing to pay for and understand it always exists somewhere. Otherwise, all parts would be infinitely fast.

[@bwananeil1398]

All pc parts going up

[@surfx4804]

Like the Tech man said, if you don't have a 4090 you won't notice the x3d. That is my expectance with a 3080 that was on a 3700x and I went to a 5800x, it was smoother rather than lots more FPS. I then went to a 4090 and going 5800x to 5800x3d was again smoother rather that lots of fps, but it made little to no impression on the 3080. I use the 4090 at 4k 120Hz (LG C2 screen) and very happy and doubt I would get much from a 7800x3d. (all on same PC build B550-F and 64Gb ram)

[@dalesplitstone6276]

You would notice the difference with a 4080, and possibly a 4070 Ti Super. Keep in mind it also depends on the specific game you play.

[@no.no.4680]

Thanks for the info. I’ve been considering this hardware combination because I’m already on an AM4 and the thought of building a whole new PC just for a 4090, only to turn around and struggle to find a buyer for my old system, kills any desire to do it. I might just get the 4090 then.

[@surfx4804]

@@no.no.4680 I was previously on a 3080 5800x playing at 1440p ultrawide. The 4090 is total overkill for that (unless you want a lot of fps) the 4090 is held back by the CPU. I ended going up to 4k and even then the 5800x was fine but I decided to sit out the AM5 7000 series and so dropped in the 5800x3d to wait and see what happens. I play for quality over fps, like Cyberpunk, Starfield etc.. at max settings + RT etc...

[@wheelzandgillz]

I got my 2700x back in 2019/2020 for $150, I seldomly game on it and hardly ever render on it, I use my laptop with an rtx3060 to render videos it does pretty good with 4k stuff, 2700x with a 5700xt should I upgrade either to run Microsoft flight sim at 3440x1440 at high or higher atleast 60fps? Thanks everyone also have 64gigs at 3000mhz

[@evers6214]

Flight simulator is really hard on your cpu. Id swap it out with the 5700x noted in this video for cheap you will notice a huge difference. See how far that gets you and then if you want to play at a crazy high resolution like 1440 widescreen high detail you will likely need a stronger gpu to hit 60

[@wheelzandgillz]

@evers6214 thanks allot! Im one of those who spent $1k+ on a setup but refuse to pay full price on games 😂 I think Im just gonna bite the bullet and buy the game first then upgrade the CPU after

[@Jay-bs7fd]

I have 3200MHz 64GB CL16 (4x16). Upgrade your CPU and keep the ram. 5800X with 3080 Ti

[@fan5236]

5600x to 5800x3d worth it?

[@Enclosure_2k]

Why is the 5800x3d so expensive? It was like 250€ a year ago..now it's 355€. Why

[@simonebaraldi9440]

because its popular, and people keep buying it even if its overpriced

[@Enclosure_2k]

;/@@simonebaraldi9440

[@Krenisphia]

Best gaming chip of the platform retains its value. Tech has stressed this many times.

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

it's expensive to produce and also amd does not want to make it too attractive to not scare people off from AM5 and ryzen 7000.

[@tim3172]

@@simonebaraldi9440 "OvErPrIcED" *Sells out* *Sells rapidly at the set price* *Is literally priced correctly*

[@InnoSZN]

I heard people say 5700x is too powerful for a 4060 is that true?

[@mr.savage778]

no,it is ideal as you always want your cpu to be faster than the GPU to avoid inconsistent frame pacing.

[@InnoSZN]

@@mr.savage778 they would always say 5700x is to powerful the 4060 is too slow for it so it’s fine? Thanks

[@mr.savage778]

@@InnoSZN yes, it is fine. You can pair the 5700x with up to an rtx 4070 without major bottlenecks so it is just fine with the 4060 also

[@InnoSZN]

@@mr.savage778 okay good to know thank you 🙏

[@alexcullen1610]

what about a 5950x with a 4080 super ?? will that bottleneck ??

[@RealAvus]

gaming in 4k is vastly waste of $$$. I rather have very high game graphics details + higher frame rate.

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

i went from a 3700X to a ryzen 5600 ( i have an rtx 2070) and i seen a large jump even in games that i did not expect.