15 Biggest Nerfs in Latest Tekken 8 Patch

[@kemalerdemsahin410]

That d3,4 nerf makes Hwoarang 30% less annoying. 😅

[@KobaZn]

and b tier too

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

And what is the other 70 %

[@bar0n300]

Hwoarang is now one of the worst character to play competitive with.

[@MrSquishy0]

The people who complain about him are still gonna lose to him though

[@princekanbatsu2301]

I like how now you can punish a low/high string reliably and Hwoarang mains be like "Oh no now he is unplayable" Dang i guess he shouldn't have counterplay at all

[@foreveruseless1292]

Man I am so glad they nerfed homing throws. Having only normal throws track it's a nice compromise

[@forsak3n749]

It sure is lil man.

[@ikimasuuuu]

I agree with ya, Tekken is now more realistic and balanced this way. It makes the game more rewarding and more fun to play.

[@whodunnit]

I respectfully disagree. Regular throws will lack viability and it'll be Tekken 7 all over again.

[@billyhorchel5429]

@@whodunnitagreed. They’ve made throws as useless as they were in T7 with the exception of shitty normal throws that everyone can break. Risk to reward ratio makes them nearly unviable

[@unusualfreneticdisorder5364]

😅😅😅Nnnnnnnnnnnujnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ​@@ikimasuuuu

[@chomps1]

Honestly that dvj crossup is so sick, i hate dvj still but its kinda sad seeing that mechanic gone

[@louiscruz624]

Agreed. Something that actually gave the game flavor and hype, and they remove it

[@christophersmith5996]

That looked like a bug compared to a intended mechanic imagine trying to block that shit when the camera is having a stroke.

[@dat1faclesdude]

it looked janky

[@aeson6294]

@@dat1faclesdude And broken as fuck

[@anerophqq2230]

I discovered yesterday Asuka's kick tsubaki works again on that blasted Nina's string and cried for joy for a minute straight.

[@Gorecatto]

I didnt even know that was a problem , luckly reina's parry works on almost everything

[@TheicMoggy]

I think Tsubaki is a shampoo brand

[@stealthexecutor563]

That soundtrack choice though

[@ZaibatsuuHQ]

Plucking Tulips from TTT2 is a classic theme

[@ShadowMark3_]

Pac Man Arena from Tekken 7

[@burnheart2965]

Better times, zoomer music is pure cancer

[@radicalstanza3614]

​@@burnheart2965"pure cancer" is a zoomer phrase. Grow up.

[@vergil1155]

​@@radicalstanza3614 people have been saying that for years to describe something annoying.

[@tokyobassist]

Some of these changes just look wrong visually. Like the Reina high crush removal just looks jank af when she's clearly on the ground. Mid moves hitting makes sense but a fuckin' high jab? Nah.

[@melvinshine9841]

I main Reina and I think she needed some nerfs, but removing the high crushing on the roll is just silly. In what way does it make sense that she gets hit by moves that are three feet *above* her body?

[@TheDangerGunz]

Looks like it works the same way zafinas tarantual 3 works, evades all highs but can be hit high during the 3 animation. Reina is high ammune up until the kick comes out so you can catch her if you see her charging

[@Chun-believable]

That’s Tekken.

[@hands-ongaming7180]

Meanwhile jack 8: has some of the best evasion attacks despite being 100 ft tall

[@KristoforusBagaskara]

She only gets hit when she presses a button during the roll, not when rolling.

[@SleepingLionsProductions]

I AM OP is doing a great job at detailing the patches AND providing info in broken stuff. He should work at namco

[@abdulmalekj2062]

I still cannot understand the reina crouch moves hurtbox nerf, if you give a character many crouching moves and highs interrupt them then what’s the point of these moves? Might as well remove them entirely because it is dumb that you can jab interrupt when the highs literally don’t make contact with reina lol.

[@alncdr]

True, Reina is annoying to play against but that nerf doesn't make any sense

[@manjiookami7962]

Tekken animation clarity moment. Move has the animation of a crouching character but doesn't have programmed crouching status anymore and she can get hit or grabbed. I only used this move like Kazuya's ws2 since their role is basically the same - confirm high whiff and punish. It's just that the game already has many overcomplicated and confusing things and devs are not helping to understand it with changes like this. Still as MishimaComplex and TheJokerGuy stated Reina is still strong.

[@90sPotato]

She still high crushes up until the move lands. That just works in tandem with most moves, which makes sense. High crushing uptil a mid launcher is while

[@dylantran3805]

​@90sPotato this is not true, you can jab her out of it at like the start of the animation lol. The move itself has almost no evasion now

[@GurenDarius]

Thats the same with kings wavedash. Now it doesnt crush highs.

[@sparfRF]

Every Reina in red ranks is crushed that they can't roll on the floor like toddlers 24/7

[@konnalad]

It's a stupid nerf tho. You punch the air and somehow that connects now? Looks janky af. She should have been nerfed but they could have at least done it in a way that makes sense.

[@Mangix974]

This nerf is outrageous ngl, stupidest patch ever, there was some big changes needed for Eddy and stuff, but Reina guardbreaker f3+4 hold is stupidly punishable, how a high attack can stop A CROUCHING move!? Makes no sense...

[@Hinokami777]

@@konnaladagreed only mids should hit . Now her move seems useless

[@Hinokami777]

@@Mangix974exactly. If we complain enough maybe they’ll fix it. Tbh I never even struggled against reinas! They’re literally making this game more and more for trash casuals who button mash. That ruins it for us legacy players. This era of gaming caters to people who don’t want to get better

[@Hinokami777]

@@Mangix974the fact people didn’t know how to counter it is sad. I literally hop kicked it

[@m.haiderhussain4481]

Thanks for showing every thing so briefly... you are best

[@MrCjosue24]

Oh it's Plucking Tulips track!

[@MrCjosue24]

Oh and do I also hear Ogre's theme?

[@hai4668]

Can you do one for biggest buffs?

[@TraumaCenter13]

Every Victor players are abusing f,f,f,2 to iai stance. Very annoying!

[@erykaldo2l270]

Devil Jin got the Fahkumram treatment, went from A tier to C tier LMAO

[@AllenJohn]

A to C? My ass. More S to A.

[@erykaldo2l270]

@@AllenJohn LMAO He aint no A tier. Even bears are better than DVJ

[@erykaldo2l270]

@@AllenJohn Also, he never Even was S tier, idk what you are talking about

[@cikciao]

The dvj downplay is real holy shit

[@pretzels7437]

​@erykaldo2l270 he was definitely ignorant on release but they nerfed all his strong tools and now you're playing a worse kazuya basically

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

3:15 rip 🥲

[@dewidumortier8552]

Yeah fuck that shit honestly, that was the stupidest thing

[@aaguy63]

It’s okay, Lars still strong 💪

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

@@aaguy63 true

[@Suzune14]

Does lars still have DEN3 on 5+ ?

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

@@Suzune14 yes

[@KingNirada]

I feel like Reina's changes sorta of defeat the purpose of Taido staying close to the ground and being hard to hit. increase the hurtbox so it doesn't go under mids sure, but cancelling crouch state feels like an overstep.

[@josephhinton6579]

I agree 100 percent

[@dudevinci]

After 500 years they finally did something about hwos d3.4

[@josueperez6068]

To add more info, before patch Lars u,f 3+4 and heat smash can evaded rage art and a lot of heat smash, now can't 😥

[@Gouken.07]

Can’t thank you enough for your content. The way you cover the game changes by getting straight to the point and making it as simple as possible without wasting any time makes you a god send. Unlike those other fighting game KZbinrs that take 40 minutes to explain everything.

[@StarKratos]

The nerf to [d+3, 4] is awful. [RFS > f+4]'s entire existence was as a potential CH against hypothetical punishment when [d+3, 4] is blocked. Hwoarang got two moves directly nerfed, not just one. What an utterly useless character he is.

[@rc9wastaken965]

We will get through it some how bro don't worry

[@pop13325]

And people will still go crazy about it while Feng getting away with all of his bullshit. Not to mention drag lol

[@JunKazamaFan]

(4:16) That punish looks ridiculous. Reina just gets drawn in to Steve's punches despite going under them.

[@dharcsu]

b3,3 nerf so bad you showed it twice.

[@taguro1006]

A dev got wrecked by a random reina doing while crouch moves and got petty, then nerfed it 💀

[@DS_Takuya]

Ig the whole team got swept the floor with by devil jin then

[@CountChokcula]

The risk to reward ratio for her using that move was the reason why they nerfed it. she could be -9 and still use that move making it hard to attack her. She could even sidestep some mids which was just dumb. Every player played reina only using that move and her ff2

[@revolt_4588]

reina has high Evasiom still except when she does an attack

[@1990charlest]

Tekken 8 is the first fighting game I’ve seen that almost all the male characters are stronger more effective and faster the the girls

[@tabkg5802]

2:50 this also fucked up hellsweep oki and combos btw. The first part is honestly the biggest nerf for Jin since launch. Still salvageable tho but you gotta lab it character by character

[@se7en6277]

"Still salvageable" lmao, Jin keeps being a very strong char, we just can't depend on FF2 for neutral pressure as much now but still FF4 exists as well, that move is one the best things added to his kit, us Jin mains just gotta be more varied with the moves we use 🤜🏼⚡️

[@tabkg5802]

@@se7en6277 I don't know what your point is but yeah Jin is still strong. It's just that his hellsweep is just kinda ahh now

[@se7en6277]

@@tabkg5802 Yeah I miss T7 hellsweep combo it was very satisfying. What I meant is that what FF2 did in terms of spacing and pressure FF4 still does it quite nicely, it isn't a heat engager but it's a good alternative 🤘🏼 And Jin has tons of other good moves that's why he had his reputation in 7, his worst weakness is his user lol

[@tabkg5802]

@@se7en6277 agree but my main point was about how the ff2 nerf touched not only its neutral use but also combo game and more importantly hellsweep oki. Now just holding back in wake up will save you from 80% of post LLRK situations since the counterplay is really tricky to execute

[@enicot]

Keep the Lili nerfs coming

[@HoDoBoDo]

I thought it was bad enough Eddy's b3,3 was -14, but now the entire cast (with the exception of Steve), can launch it 😂.

[@Bigzoe202Gaming]

Steve could launch it up uf2 if I'm not mistaken.

[@humaidalmarzooqi5661]

It’s still ch confirmable, u shouldn’t have it blocked often anyways

[@nabedesu7708]

​@@Bigzoe202Gaminguf2 is his jumping punch launcher. If pkb uf2 is what u meant then no he still cant launch -15 with that as u still need a few frame to transition to peekaboo

[@Bigzoe202Gaming]

@nabedesu7708 no I meant his jumping punch. Thought it was 15 frames but I see that it isn't.

[@HoDoBoDo]

@@Bigzoe202Gaming It's not. It was i15 in T7's alpha version and Tag 2, but it was made an orbital after that. Also... it's super slow and -14 on block, so wouldn't recommend doing it.

[@tofuutekken123]

Last thing I expected was hearing sonic riders ost in the background lmao

[@alee5069]

Removing evasiveness from reina's evasive moves is just Bs. I agree that you should be able to hit her with a quick mid out of those moves but jab checking her when she's 3 feet below your jab is absurd.

[@i3ssb00st5]

As an Asuka player i can finally ss2 anyone who heat bursts Very nice change for overall

[@MagnaLynx21]

Seeing the Lee and DJ ones in action, I would have classified those as big fixes tbf

[@HarmonicResonanceScale]

Lee main here. Never used it, but now my iws2,3 is much more consistent.

[@Antroz0197]

The Lee one definitely wasn't a bug fix, OTGs after KND heat dashes were always damaging from most characters. Lee just had better tools for it. Losing those options really guts his heat dash damage in particular. If they didn't buff his heat burst to 100% connect after ws23 it would've been so bad.

[@95DreadLord]

While I am a Victor main I think nerfs he got were fine since his more oppressive stuff got nerfed but he got new stance transitions and new moves to give him more varied options

[@JonguKim-j7x]

A dub in my opinion, no more brain dead fff 2 spam more stance and set play, plus the parries on stance will really be fun to play with

[@aqueelkadri8371]

Giving him a tailspin from iai stance means the new combos are buffed and more optimized too So its more of a rework than a nerf cuz he got buffed in some areas as well

[@RationalMinded]

Devs wanted players to use the rest of his kit and I think they accomplished that. I'm not for butchering characters. We would've never guessed Azucena was meant to be a heavy stance mix-up character while watching her meta become "WR3,2 til dead".

[@unclekraken21]

Nah they did my boy lee dirty

[@blahblahgdp]

Rip dvj lol

[@JuliusCaesar103]

TTT Ogre ost is so good

[@BanditTools]

I feel like so many issues can be solved by removing tracking on moves and making side stepping more reliable. The tracking with Devil Jin’s oki from the vid is OD and it’s one of many.

[@ИгорьРешетник-т3г]

"Poor" Asuka needed a buff. She already has a whole arsenal of the meanest attacks in Tekken and plus her damn reversal is absolutely brutal.😖🤮

[@KazuyaKai923]

"Lars monkey flip" 😂😂

[@IzNebula]

Everyone so far still think Jin's ff2 still tracks like pre-patch, which isn't true. Also Lee's df1, slide and Hitman 4, all had their evasion nerfed, which is huge. Law's slide still has an oki variant with BT d4, it's less damage and slightly less oki, but he still gets something to continue his vortex with slide.

[@DiabloDon]

Jin and Feng have the same evasive Punch movement but now you can punish Feng but not Jin?

[@MrDukee27]

Not the same pushback and evasiveness at all 😂

[@squiddyseut6103]

Yeah because feng isnt the main character with the power of friendship

[@oreowithurea5018]

Feng has like twice the evasiveness

[@IAMOP]

Protagonist plot armor

[@HiroyaFujimiya]

​@@IAMOPFeng blinded by his own power while Jin is already believe in his heart.

[@Sell_Demon]

Ima test ya throw break game.. FUH🗣️‼️🗣️‼️🗣️

[@Chandi_Lerald]

WAS THAT RACOON AT THE END? LOL

[@bobaorc7839]

Throw tracking being nerfed has really nerfed King, but that's how it ALWAYS was, and having heart burst tracking removed alongside it makes me okay with the change. I'd be a little annoyed if heat bursts still tracked.

[@buckbreaker5185]

Buff KBD Remove heat And we MAY have a game. Until then, TRASH 🗑️🗑️

[@Mangix974]

I was about to play it again for Lidia, but the corrections they made are unachieved. How high attacks can touch crouching stance? Dudes are afraid of JDCR being spiteful on Dragunov state when he has almost no flaws now? Looks like this patch just cancel the one they made before this one...

[@PhilosophersCallingToManga]

That devil jin is not a nerf, that's a different combo entirely, namco bandai and harada and equals very to very little nerfz, they care about the combo sacredness, never less with soul Calibur and Tekken, just an experimental team.

[@giakhoavu4836]

Analysis of leroy patch 1.05 bro please 🥺

[@foreveruseless1292]

Lmfao that last clip. "FUUUUUUUUUUU"

[@Ulqui_210]

Certified InconsiderateRacoon moment

[@karanpatel8996]

That Hwo d3,4 nerf feels like removing variety. Previously you had to low parry it, but now you can just duck and launch it like with any other character. IMO it made sense for Hwo to have that as it was something unique about his offense.

[@KeithKillingly]

I feel like Feng losing a launcher and 3,3 is more important than his uf2 lol, idk why that’s what you chose

[@Floridamangaming729]

They need to nerf tracking in general. I hate side stepping a move that doesn’t have the fucking tracking indicator and getting hit with it. Why add the indicator when almost every move is practically a tracking move? Also people need to stop being meta slaves. I went up against nothing but jins today even in casuals. Genuinely the worst fighting game experience so far.

[@nabedesu7708]

What is the difference of lili oki heat version before and after patch?

[@IAMOP]

Cause Knock down on with the low on normal hit and the qcf3 follow up knock down is different to create more space

[@goongoon9299]

How many more nerfs will devil jin get?

[@Keylvl]

Eddy was big mis understand because of pressing one bottom with eddy is like spam tech thats why they nerf him but everytime someone use eddy be spamming like who ever use him is unskilled at the game

[@Shifu_Ali]

Lemme check your throw breaks 😅

[@youraveragekaleb]

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH NERFING DEVIL JIN

[@ShivamYadav-fp1hb]

the biggest nerf was the friends we made along the way

[@CXAsesino]

Imma be so real 4:17, this nerf makes no fucking sense💀

[@CozyCoffeeLofi]

Wow, i wonder what they'll nerf next! ❤

[@netherspecter8870]

RIP Ferrari tech 😭

[@Lerossignol94]

There was no need to nerf d3,4 whatsoever for Hwoarang. It’s never been an issue. Zero

[@rc9wastaken965]

It is issue for those who don't want to learn their match-up Instead of complaining if they practiced maybe they would understand 😂

[@KennedySilva06]

Finally they did something good to this game.

[@PhilosophersCallingToManga]

Actually your morning crow is 👍💯

[@chainsawjax9406]

Omg..they nerfed all the cancer!!!

[@faisholmemasak2383]

Thats worth for game price....

[@razorrzr]

free taunt oki lovers like here

[@nkemflix_]

They didn't need to do that to Quadans Tech, honestly

[@Mangix974]

This is way too strong, you look biased, I don't think DVJ deserved it too but, there was too many clunky shit like this with other chars, DVJ players showed off to much to ignore, just like some Kuma techs too that are still in the game and are also broken as DVJ tracking Morning Crow, maybe even more (which I won't describe, no way)

[@PhilosophersCallingToManga]

Please rebuy your games😱🥹🥲👍

[@underdogart]

Poor dj

[@nikhilstephen]

RIP Lili and Devil Jin. Unnecessary nerfs

[@theHolyMonarch]

Lily nerfs are understandable

[@Aggrofool]

King is weak now sadge

[@abhishekvalsangkar]

Hwoarangs finally will stop getting carried and get launched for spamming D3,4

[@leemcgee5164]

Law's nunchucks now send the opponent slightly further and Law players are like... LAW IS DEAD NOW!!! Same with Hworang's low high string. Wait my opponent can now reliably duck and punish my low high string? Why don't ya just delete Hworang!!! If you really believe some other characters are so much better, switch to them and see how easy it is. Don't act like you're hero, playing against cheaters with your "honest character" 😂

[@MinoComics]

LAW: same

[@berkaykilic5883]

I understand the king nerfs, but why the oki nerfs?? Good patch overall. But feng, xiayou, alisa, still busted as fuck.

[@Cirroyt]

I kinda wish they left Jin’s demon paw alone as I felt like it was a little more safe for pushing back compared to his zanshin into the dive kick. Ik the dive kick gives you plus frames but I really liked demon paw

[@LiangHuBBB]

victor got hella nerfed

[@sabahbubbler]

Did anyone actually ask for this? I remember it's only "adjust kazooya good sir" tweet and that should be it. Just balance kazoo and don't nerf everyone like this. Buff if you need to balance

[@KurohigeDTeach-yy3yk]

Imho, most heat bursts in the game are linear attacks. So sidestepping them makes absolute sense. They should add heat burst attacks that have half/full circular motion, and there's no problem.

[@Aziz-td5mt]

I’m glad Lili oki setup was nerfed it was annoying

[@Merumya]

im loving the demon paw nerf. it felt so terrible against jin. so much pushback on so many moves making them safe while they shouldnt be...

[@sighyawn6378]

nerfing demon paw pushback was a lame decision imo. its like DJs only fast safe mid. could be stepped both directions and it puts him in a bad position on block now too. the reward is heat engage and his heat isnt even good anymore. fucking dead character. just play kazuya or reina i guess lol.

[@atlante4368]

No df+1, no Demon Paw pushback. How does Devil Jin even start offense now wtf?

[@PhilosophersCallingToManga]

Really nice gameplay

[@augosyx]

Now I wanna pick up this game again. I got too annoyed by the aggressive idea with little to no punish or incentives to play defense.

[@DemigodDan]

I'm surprised they made eddy even more punishable for going into relaxed, i used to eat eddy alive for doing that cuz id get a guaranteed 14 frame heat engager or heat dash launcher when hed do that but now he can just be normal launched for that? I dont think he deserved that nerf but whatevs ill take my free launch lol

[@blazaybla22]

Great video but… did I miss the one where heat burst no longer KOs???? To me that and the command grabs were the biggest nerfs

[@RandomPerson28337]

You forgot about Steve sonic fang nerf from heat into peekaboo down 2.

[@XiaoGege]

As a Law player, I liked the change with his 1+2 nunchuck hit property because the slide to nunchuck setup with the Tekken 7 flippy oki has gotten way too repetitive and overused. The only nerf I didn't like was the nunchuck when his Heat Smash whiffs. It doesn't launch anymore, even on counter hit. Not launching on normal hit, I can understand. But not launching on counter hit, I think it's overdone. They could have been more creative with it by giving it a different hit property- the same as his b+1,2,2 on Heat.

[@natyinc9611]

Feng's BT. 2 was also massively nerfed - it no longer gives a full combo after heat-dash, you can only follow it up with a B1+2 or F,(F)3. Feng is still fine though.

[@GTRAIJIN4633]

that's what I thought, Alisa even dodges the nerf lol

[@BlueWolfGokboru]

F***ing nerf bryan i don’t care about anyone else

[@DjVanHeb]

Lili's got a new combo to setup her Feisty rabbit at the wall lmao.

[@dissobiscuit]

King tracking removed: I prayed for this, and it happened

[@PhilosophersCallingToManga]

Tekken is peak

[@swagmanx3]

Eddy mains finna get got now..... EVIL LAUGH*

[@doubled6501]

Ahhh makes me happy to see Lili nerfed.

[@pnx073]

An entire patch comparison would be great.

[@joma__787]

What is The third Soundtrack

[@IAMOP]

Pacman theme from Tekken 7