Ibis develops a bike specifically for XC, even named it after the genre. Pinkbike "Let's add it to our DC test!!!"
@ervin71782 жыл бұрын
It’s not like they make a 120 rear travel bike with geometry more comparable to other bikes in the test…
@scottpratico13152 жыл бұрын
Then complain that the head angle is too steep
@jerryspeedbumps5122 жыл бұрын
@@ervin7178 it gets boring when the same old bike keeps beating out the rest. I have the "other" one. Its super nice!
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
Xc is hardtail
@hootie_owl2771 Жыл бұрын
and they included the Evil which is very similar to the Ripley
@jtsimaras2 жыл бұрын
Nice review ...... So odd to hear a 67 degrees head angle is steep for a XC bike ...times sure have changed 👍
@sprinklesmtb Жыл бұрын
not for an xc bike but a "downcountry bike" they are totally different things
@letour32rr2 жыл бұрын
Steep 67 degree headtube makes it twitchy. Me over here bombing down hills with a 70 degree headtube like…😅
@tomjakaby61262 жыл бұрын
I've been riding and racing my Exie since February. Replaced my Ripley V2 with this bike. The Exie climbs and shreds at race pace. Not as forgiving on downhills but capable. The step cast fork is lightweight but has a narrow crown. That affects handling IMO.
@TomCollins-c4h Жыл бұрын
@@randallgd Why is it so hard to find this comparison?
@miatamx2 жыл бұрын
I've been with two ibises before, I think it is in their bikes characteristics that it really climbs well and it's like it naturally pushes you forward when you go over bump going up.
@22Jeffers2 жыл бұрын
“Do you know where 67 degree HA won’t work; when it gets steep” Wtf are they talking about? Trail bikes winning trail bike of the year only 3 years ago had 67 degree HA. Was anybody saying they were twitchy and no good downhill then?
@brandonburks41722 жыл бұрын
Sshhhh. You’re not allowed to talk about that
@KlintonSilvey Жыл бұрын
My 2016 intense carbine with a 160mm fork had a 67 degree hta lol. It never felt too steep in the downhills
@andrewfish1111 Жыл бұрын
Seriously My 2018 ibis mojo 3 had a 140 front fork and 67 deg head tube lol
@Drogos79Ай бұрын
nonsense. No trail bike that came out after 2021 has 67 HA
@jevanskickstandcrew83732 жыл бұрын
When you said the words 10,000 I knew I was watching the wrong bike video for me
@montechie Жыл бұрын
I love these reviews and the crew. One of the few reviews out there that consistently puts the bikes on challenging trails instead of just flowy hard-pack.
@frienduro242 жыл бұрын
XC Race Bikes already have super firm suspension, the lockouts are not a guaranty for higher speeds. That said…It’s a more a mental uplift thing, the bike just feels faster to the rider.
@BurnsRubber2 жыл бұрын
Never imagined the day we’d be reviewing an “XC race bike” talking about its ‘steep’ 67deg head tube angle.
@friendlyperson50952 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@sprinklesmtb Жыл бұрын
maybe it isn't steep
@cosminandrei64562 жыл бұрын
I'm really wondering how this year's DC line up fares to older top notch rigs like the last rocky element or the transition spur....would be really really interesting if you guys could compare the older ones to these.
@zombie981_ Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why there was 2 DC field test in the same 12 months tbh
@brucehumphries688910 ай бұрын
Really wished you’d take a note when you feel the stem is too short and stick a longer one on it. It’s a simple thing to do to see if the thoughts you have can be validated.
@keithbell8960 Жыл бұрын
I rode one of these recently. Very solid bike. More substantial than you'd expect
@countryseller2 жыл бұрын
Love a PB field test. Levy, Sarah and Matt are a rad combo! However… i was gutted to hear about Alicia via KZbin comments on another Vid. I get it. Its a private matter, but she is a institution in Field Tests and PB owes it to her and the fans to inform about her accident.
@joshuaallswang80162 жыл бұрын
66.5-67 HTA is the best and most neutral for all riding situations both climbing and descending. No questions asked.
@tuftschristopher2 жыл бұрын
Really would appreciate some overall ranking between field tests - like how the Allied ranks against the Transition Spur and Rocky Mountain Element... I get that there's only needling and downside in doing all bikes but perhaps at least among the "leaders" in a given test like you guys do on the trail/Enduro, matching against the stumpy
@janeblogs3242 жыл бұрын
They always do timed descents,climbs but they never put all bikes times on the screen in text in the closing episode
@comeridewithmeAE2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that a 67 degree head angle is considered steep, The head angle on the current Pivot Switchblade is 66 degrees, and that uses a 160mm fork.
@22Jeffers2 жыл бұрын
All this waffle is just regurgitated from the bike industry trying to sell bikes. I can’t believe someone can tell the difference between a 66 to 67 degree head angle.
@andrewleighton4722 жыл бұрын
@@22Jeffers I can absolutely feel the geo change from changing head angle on my bike using an 1 degree angle set. It’s not just marketing gimmick but it’s certainly used to push the next models year on year
@mpowers17762 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love my Exie and ride it over my Ripley. Even in the mountains of Colorado I picked it over the Ripley. So much more fun and rewarding to ride!
@andrewfish1111 Жыл бұрын
Interesting I have the exie now sold my mojo 3 for it and was thinking i made a mistake not buying the versatile ripley.
@justinabrams78 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewfish1111 I’d say if the rides you’re doing are longer like > 8-10 miles then stick with Exie. If shorter and you want it more plush forgiving and more versitile. Then stick with ripley.
@davidc60322 жыл бұрын
Jenny Rissveds raced an Exie in UCI world cups this past season. She was in the mix for podiums all season in cross country and short track.
@laxplaysu91 Жыл бұрын
She’s also one of the best female XC riders in the world right now… you could throw her on any bike and she would podium.
@snat62992 жыл бұрын
Sweet as Bike! Ibis makes quality great handling bikes.
@micheandmikey2 жыл бұрын
Exie, WA1 wheels, King hubs, Michelin tires = my build. Thank you.
@sgtkurry2 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't like the XT brakes on my exie for longer or steeper descents. But it is the most fun bike I have to climb things. I figured it would also be the fastest in the test going up. Going down you have to really pick your line.
@bikebudha01 Жыл бұрын
This needs to be updated to talk about the new Exie (NON-USA foreign made frame, deore components, $4,500 price tag - over half that most of the bikes listed in this vid).
@XCRiders2 жыл бұрын
I’m really liking this Exie I want to see it vs the Epic S-works Take the Pepsi Challenge!!
@LiveFast135i Жыл бұрын
Isn't 480mm reach kind of long for an XC race bike? Wouldn't this negatively affect the bike on any tight twisty XC courses? I too (like some others said) don't feel like it was an appropriate test for the intent of the bike. Ibis has the Ripley for the trails PB tested the Exie on.
@MikeesTexas2 жыл бұрын
Hey PB! What angle is where you would consider a 120mm forked bike to be considered downcountry?
@juanhidalgo70432 жыл бұрын
I got my Ibis Exie full XX1 and I don’t regret the price. This bike is build to go fast. I will also say this bike is not for a beginner. This bike is meant for a 115 x 138 lbs person. 😂
@Grrg Жыл бұрын
During the world cup with Jenny Risveds this bike was a beast on the downhills
@andrewfish1111 Жыл бұрын
with 100mm front fork.
@bikebudha01 Жыл бұрын
Which bike is better: Ibis Exie (non-usa deore build $5k) vs. Rocky Mountain Element (C50 build $5k)??? No xc racing, but will be doing marathons and 100 milers. Ride mostly 'blue' trails, fair amount of green as well, just a touch of black. My weight is 120lbs.
@tomassanesson9022 жыл бұрын
Awesome cool bike 👍🤘❤❤❤
@mellissanash75172 жыл бұрын
What does Pinkbike consider steep? 10% grade? 15%? or 20%+?
@SPINDORK Жыл бұрын
This is where the Lux Trail deserves a second chance?? Or the Intense Sniper T???
@GHinWI Жыл бұрын
Nice bike. The timed testing would be more meaningful if they all 3 did it and averaged the results.
@joeymalin Жыл бұрын
Is is called Exie because when you say that it sounds like XC??
@irockuroll60 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone hear what size they were on? I think the dude in the middle said he rode a medium on the allied and just curious
@REB4444 Жыл бұрын
BC40 is now "THAT bike" they were talking about, lol. 1) Made in the USA 2) Pedals just as good 3) More composed downhill 4) Not anymore expensive for the top build
@flow2tech Жыл бұрын
@REB4 just ordered a bc40 ..Going with a 130mm 34. Some 800 mill one up riser bars bit bigger rubber...Will be my dc bike
@colinress Жыл бұрын
The head angle will be 66.5 with a 130 mm front fork
@DEXVD2 жыл бұрын
For the question at 16:30 what bike is that XC race bike that is more capable for the trails, especially with some bigger rubber. Is it the Blur TR or Top Fuel from last year?
@foogs29242 жыл бұрын
Only 9k for the version in the video, what a steal!
@strenkp2 жыл бұрын
Actually it is 9,2k for for X01 with alloy wheels. 10k is for carbon wheel upgrade with ibis hubs (bike version in the video), 10,6k for carbon+i9 hubs :D
@alexh.40682 жыл бұрын
Not sure why these XC bikes don't come equipped with 2x dropper style levers, it would fix the ergo/cockpit problems when a lockout lever is also present. Additionally.. while on the topic.. 2x dropper levers can be improved a lot. Most of them are junk 🙂
@strenkp2 жыл бұрын
I prefer proper dropper post lever by default, it is so much more often used compared to suspension lockout. I have 2x dropper remote on my HT (because it is still "old" 2x drivetrain bike) and it is terrible. In all my future bikes will have PWN The Loam lever, period. Damn the 2by dropper remotes!
@alexh.40682 жыл бұрын
@@strenkp yes agree, but it doesn’t seem like it would be hard to produce a good 2x lever. Even the pnw 2x lever is junk. I mean their entire brand is rebranded generic products lol.
@colinress Жыл бұрын
What is the other bike that makes its carbon frame in the USA?
@tomneedham9965 Жыл бұрын
I think in this test it was Allied.
@paulcampos2032 жыл бұрын
Merida 120/Merida 120rc when?
@paulcampos203 Жыл бұрын
No thanks
@walterwalter10922 жыл бұрын
67 is steep for XC?
@joshuaallswang80162 жыл бұрын
No it’s Not
@22Jeffers2 жыл бұрын
They’re just repeating manufacturer BS.
@XCRiders2 жыл бұрын
67 is good
@rizalshafie69262 жыл бұрын
Short travel you guys should include the Pivot Trail 429 and the Santa Cruz Tallboy.
@MillerRL962 жыл бұрын
Both have been reviewed already on PB. Tallboy would do shit on climbs and meh on descents. 429 might do alright it’ll climb like the following.
@MrColtnutz2 жыл бұрын
10 grand woooooow!!!! Better be hand and foot free.
@mrvwbug44232 жыл бұрын
I suspect this is the bike that's going to win the impossible climb this time
@rrobinsx2 жыл бұрын
Still trying to catch up with the Epic Evo..
@ewxlt2 жыл бұрын
Except the Epic has reach figures from 5 years ago. This has 35mm more reach in XL.
@Mardegente20242 жыл бұрын
@@ewxlt but that head tube angle... I'm still an Epic Evo fan
@ewxlt2 жыл бұрын
@@Mardegente2024 Valid.And the price is stupid.
@Mardegente20242 жыл бұрын
@@ewxlt every prive is stupid these days. I’m seeing bikes at 15.000 euros/dollars
@aleksarajkovic34712 жыл бұрын
Ones you get a Lapierre , you will never buy it again, I have NEVER seen such a bad customer support, can't find frame parts anywhere on the whole f*ing continent (bushings for example) and customer support is not answering emails...
@TheMatt3652 жыл бұрын
Let Sarah take the lead, mo betta.
@temka_rider2 жыл бұрын
Hi from Russia!) good content
@weridebikes10002 жыл бұрын
67 degrees is "twitchy"? C'mon, how did we ever survive anything above 67?
@TomCollins-c4h Жыл бұрын
Every other review said the opposite Weird.
@weridebikes1000 Жыл бұрын
@@TomCollins-c4h Hi my name is Tom, I don't ride bikes, I just read about other peoples' opinions on em.
@TomCollins-c4h Жыл бұрын
@@weridebikes1000 I was agreeing with you.
@ewxlt2 жыл бұрын
FIVE GRAND for a frame???? Ummm no.
@fentonbalfus49082 жыл бұрын
11:41
@petedog95812 жыл бұрын
These guys at like 67 degrees is a steep HT angle. It is an XC bike. The industry has brainwashed everybody w LLS bs.
@troutfly7201 Жыл бұрын
I guess I'll have to cash out my kid's college fund to afford this...
@3210811132 жыл бұрын
Levy needs to get over his negative feelings on lockouts. His feelings are outdated and tiresome. I'm surprised he doesn't understand that when you're climbing or accelerating on the flat, every bit of energy that gets absorbed in open suspension is energy that doesn't propel you forward. Full stop.
@Kovacs-sf1hi2 жыл бұрын
Lockouts are outdated.
@mrladeuce3972 жыл бұрын
Truth
@sotry1232 жыл бұрын
I can tell you his argument is that those issues should be resolved with bike design and not a switch
@321081113 Жыл бұрын
Until bike designs get to the point that lockouts don't provide an undeniable benefit in many situations, lockouts work and his repeated comments have become nauseous.
@reabbotted Жыл бұрын
I'm with you Bill. I ❤️ lockouts. Great for pavement and standing up.
@creepingjesus51062 жыл бұрын
Is Sarah Uni Kitty?
@BrianKlausen2 жыл бұрын
My goodness, that is NOT a pretty bike if you ask me. I don't care how well it climbs, handles or whatever - I have a VERY hard time getting over the looks. Transition Spur on the other hand... looks so good it can be a death trap for all I care :D
@laxplaysu912 жыл бұрын
This is the ugliest XC "race" bike I have ever seen. $10.4K and it weights over 24lbs? $10.4K and it comes with X01 shifting and XT brakes? Who at Ibis is smoking crack in their marketing department? My god what a fucking rip off. Just because it's "American made" they have the audacity to slap that price tag on it with those components? Yikes! Can't wait for the 2023 Orbea OIZ to drop this week.
@strenkp2 жыл бұрын
Dude, bikes are not only about the price and the components (which you can always change/upgrade or buy frame only as me) No matter what components will come with Oiz, it will 100% not ride so good as the Exie. To me is more important the frame, geometry and the ride quality than components and value. Btw my neighbor had Oiz frame replaced after not many km ridden (he rides not so much as me). On stage race Trilogy 2021, 2 Oiz frames in service booth with broken privot linkges and without propietary screw you have no chance to fix it. No thanks, take your Oiz I will take my Exie. PS - if value would be important to me, I would pick Canyon Lux which is better kit for the price compared to Oiz
@laxplaysu91 Жыл бұрын
@@strenkp ok so what about a Santa Cruz blur CC XO1 for $7.5K vs an Exie for $10.4K same components lighter frame? Or a megamo? Or a Scott? Or even an epic evo? The price tag on this isn’t going to fly with 99% of riders. Sucks your friend has had a bad experience with their Oiz but I’ve put 2300KM on mine in the past 4.5 months and have had 0 issues. I wouldn’t get a canyon I’d rather pay a little more for a higher quality frame made in Spain vs China when picking a mtb. Road/gravel sure cheap Chinese carbon is the way to go.
@strenkp Жыл бұрын
@@laxplaysu91 Is like complaining, that Porche is very expensive and your BMW wasn't so pricey. Yes, Ibis is premium brand, their frames and carbon quality is one of the best on the market. Their build kits are super expensive compared to the competition. That is why I decided with frame only and will build it with kit specific exactly to my taste and ignore their expensive kit sets. To you it seems the components and the price is more important. To me the quality of the frame and how it rides. DW-link is like a drug, you taste it once and never look back. I do not want single pivot XC bike, that's it :)That is good think about this world, everyone can buy and ride whatever he wants :) You Oiz, me Exie, other guy can shred Scalpel and other Lux. Ride on!
@Wiroe2 жыл бұрын
Over 10k for mechanical sram is just not up to standard these days