Ice factory with automation and shipping | Ep 13 | ONI - Frosty - Ceres

[@netkitten]

Echo, 20 episodes from now: "WHY IS THERE MERCURY GAS IN THE VOLCANO TAMER? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? 😭

[@glacier4911]

Yes yes and we love him for it.

[@minecreeper7908]

Even without adventuring into space, you've made the playthrough exploring the updates pretty fun and building as much as possible on the one planet!

[@andymitts251]

Better answer to the "Why not go to space?" question is that you don't want every series to end up in the same place. For variety. Which as we all know is the spice of life.

[@anamelikemine]

why not just drip the water into a deep freezer at 1 kg packets? Put them through an aqua tuner system that cools them off to almost 1 or 2 degrees, then put it through an mini pump that drips into a deep freezer. sort of like a reverse-sauna!

[@BlehMehe]

😮 never thought about this but now im definitely going to try it

[@ericblair5731]

Easier might just be to make an ethanol basin at something like -20 and run pipes through that. Then send water through those pipes. That gives you a lot more temperature range to work with.

[@owenstoddard6464]

Love that ice factories are a thing now. My favorite way is to use gulp fish in a cool slush geyser. Since the polluted water is -10, it immediately freezes when the gulp fish purity it. Very cool use for a mediocre critter morph.

[@xXMGVXx]

I would be a bit careful with the clean water forming solid ice tiles. I had multiple fish inside ice blocks last time I tried it. If you keep the water at -5 to +5 it is fine. The fish produce very messy layers in a water + p water pool with water columns at the walls. Was a huge headache last time I messed with that.

[@madelaineparry5386]

Thanks for keeping this a one-planetoid run! Space is cool and all, but I love to see the creative solutions you come up with to make the most of what’s available there. Once you remove the starting planetoid’s constraints, colonies start to optimize very similarly to each other instead of adapting to their unique environment and resources. Great series, Echo!

[@28pinkdancer]

this has been one of my favortite series of yours, *because* you're not going to space! it's been really cool to see all of the different strategies you've used in this run, both due to the DLC and being planetiod-bound

[@Belnivek]

I like it when you say yay

[@defiantly_emily]

“Perfect-ish” is a word I’ve said dozens of times in my own colonies :D

[@jerryfriend8337]

A helpful tip on the Ice Makers, they have a max internal capacity of 300 kg of ice/snow. It doesn't drop onto the ground and when full they will stop producing. Automation could be reduced to just smart bins closing the chute. A change for later though, don't want that ice idling on the rails while it's still too warm or it'll melt.

[@pietrocelano23]

maybe one of those systems where you drip water through mesh tiles so it comes out as ice on the other end would've been more energy/labor efficient, but i wouldnt know anything about that

[@nicmotter1954]

I was just going to comment this but figured i would see if anyone else mentioned it!

[@gwm249]

I just have a valve dripping as much water as I need into some metal tiles that are cooled through an aquatuner loop and boom, instant ice.

[@Talderas]

Auto sweepers can take bottles from pitcher pumps. Maybe you can entirely cut out duplicant labor.

[@Youmu_Konpaku_]

18:04 i love how the enthusiasm quickly Dissapearred 😅

[@ZhiLawd]

Couldn't you make an automatic ice maker? with a flow valve and vent dripping on to a superchilled iron block?

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

The moment you realize that I am about to rip the whole system apart. Great idea.

[@hristodimitrov3695]

Keep the system. You can make snow for some domestic bonbons

[@Batos41]

I did that using the slush geyser on my map. Heat the brine up just a little bit, desalinate, and pump through the brine pool using flow valves and five pipes. I may run out of chill in the tank or water from the geyser eventually, but it hasn't happened yet!

[@HannesMrg]

I dont mind not going to space. It's such a hassle and so much micro Management, that i mostly find myself playing with spaced out off.

[@SuperCaitball]

I think the wonky sun mechanics might be because sunlight is emitted specifically on a tile basis in unbroken vertical lines of Void tiles (aka Vacuum + "Space exposure"). Because mesh and airflow tiles "contain" a tile of Void, it ignores the tile altogether, despite light not actually passing through it. There may be some additional categories of tiles that are hard-coded to allow the Void strips to be unbroken (drywall, window, etc.), because that's simpler to do: if the next tile below this one contains the "Space exposure" attribute, *or* the tile below is a drywall or window tile, continue moving downwards with the calculation of sunlight tiles. Presumably, adding in a check if the "Space exposure" tile is actually within a tile that can't pass light, such as an airflow or mesh tile, might be a lot more difficult from a programming standpoint.

[@titaniadioxide6133]

I think you need to rearrange the cooling loop - you’ll need the cold nectar to keep the ice makers below freezing, and THEN you can send it to the water bath to keep that ABOVE freezing. Right now, you’re using all your cooling on the water bath, and sending hot nectar up to the ice makers, which are supposed to be colder than the water bath.

[@glacier4911]

Yes yes

[@leetustainify]

I too had to build an ice factory, but I just had it dump a load of water on to some metal tiles and then force cooled it with an aquatuner, then shipped the ice out. I did make use of super coolant and thermium though, would be possible without it but far less efficient. I barely had to run the thing though, made so much ice so quickly it was insane

[@hijiriyukari]

Satisfying to see a net positive of resource

[@Jarnsmidr]

Ya gotta eat, man. That's just the reality of the situation. You aren't sacrificing content quality for views, just some content we've all seen before. No shame in it. Love the vids

[@ophirzeno1920]

Just place tiles as a kind of roofing over your liquid locks(specially the small ones) to prevent falling liquids

[@anotherkenlon]

I appreciate that you're making the effort to use the correct names for plants.

[@CaughtThatCoffee]

Enjoyable ride to listen to while i cook dinner

[@JayRay4924]

11:23 no wallpaper or temp shift plates in the Al volcano room? You're slipping Echo! Still gonna watch the whole series though let's not get crazy

[@thejoshernut]

For Shame! FOR SHAME!

[@alexandervarakosov]

You can use AND gate as a diode, to prevent signals going back by automation wire.

[@MedullanAutononomous]

You really should get the zombie spore robots up and running. I promise the juice is worth the squeeze. The steel cost for each robot is recycled at the end of that robots life and they do tasks all over the colony basically for free. I swear I remember if steam is flash frozen while in a mesh tile it will drop as snow. Will you please make the most over complicated version of an ice maker that turns steam directly into frozen water while in a mesh time to test my theory‽

[@seandavis1189]

i knew the second you said you were going to dump that pool of water on the spores that the volume of gas would be to much and would "bubble" up on out....... and it did.

[@keithstathem872]

Another streamer accidentally discovered last week that a shine bug wandering around nearby before opening up the sporechid room will sterilize the zombie spores in a few minutes.

[@joeschmoe7324]

Shine Bug's be nuclear

[@grzegorzlipinski4183]

Thermo aqua tuner + steam turbine combo and on the right or left you put 2 layers of metal tiles with aqua tuner pipes through it. Add miner on the top (just in case). Liquid valve, liquid vent to deliver water and shipping to take out ice. Not sure if such setup would be more power efficient, but for sure less labor intensive and would took much less space. If you need more ice thus more cold then add steam turbine and add another aqua tuner.

[@gregorygiles9092]

I think you can use auto sweepers to put water in the ice makers

[@gregorygiles9092]

Take that with a grain of salt I’m not 100%

[@thejoshernut]

I was thinking the same thing. Just make a small pool with a pitcher pump in-between the ice makers with automation to stop water flow from the big tank. I'm probably remembering wrong and Auto Sweepers can't use pitcher pumps but I have this old memory of seeing it done before.

[@gregorygiles9092]

@@thejoshernutI think I was thinking of liquid metals

[@Caldaron]

arent the liquid tepidizers also unneccesarily heating up the nectar?, maybe move them one tile up?

[@joeschmoe7324]

I recommend the mod that let's you pickup 100g of liquid with the cursor. If you pause and place and remove liquid from every freetile in a tamer you can make a vacuum in seconds.

[@jasoneddramos5384]

the spaced out dlc adds radiation that you can use to remove the sporekids from areas that accumulated, i usually pop a 2 farmtiles near it and eventually the radiation outweighs the production and u can (somewhat) safely remove the sporekids without any germs

[@chrismaxwell3405]

with the Ice Makers automation, why not just use a single Ribbon wire as there are only 4. would be perfect for that. then could you not make it that if any of them are green, they activate the ice makers. gives you 4 checks to over-rid the red signals.

[@stefansuch1588]

It's great to be able to watch you make that metal volcanoe tamer. I'm currently playing through Spaced Out and am set to land on another planetoid with metal volcanoes, but I've never tamed them before. Awesome work Also, in terms of ice making, couldn't you just pour water into a room that's kept under 0 degrees by a thermo aquatuner loop? Since you're shipping the ice automatically, you wouldn't even need to make an entrance for your dupes. You'd have to keep your current desalination setup, of course. Unless you can get away with Brine Ice.

[@impworks]

I tried a similar ice maker solution and its still what I'm doing for snow making. I've switched over to a solution which uses less power and labour. A water tank is fed by polluted water sources. A pump feeds the water through a tepidizer warming tank to raise the temperature to 5 degrees checked before its allowed out. Then it goes into a pair of water sieves. A 9 wide 6 high room acts as my freezer chamber. Its cooled by a cooling loop from a dedicated aquatuna tuner / steam turbine running nectar at -20C. Nine liquid valves off the feed pipe each allow 500g/s to drop into the room from vents. Two Auto Sweepers collect the ice into a conveyor loader which feeds conveyor receptacles in the Alveo Vera chamber - it takes two sweepers to keep up with the loading just one couldn't keep up. A conveyor element sensor checks for ice being backed up to the chamber on the line with a filter gate on it to stop it just switching on and off all the time. That controls the a liquid shut off valve on the feed from the water sieves to prevent water sitting in the pipes and freezing in the room. Been running for about 500 cycles without touching it now.

[@fuuryuuSKK]

Why not take one central rail delivery line to all the receptacles instead of the chute-and-Smartbin system that, last time I asked, you said was directly a product of not having researched the receptacle yet

[@nancy97531]

Hi, hope you have a good day.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you. You too!

[@user-kc9rs8ew4x]

If you were able to place a radiation source close to the Sporechild while keeping the atmosphere containment intact it would, as I understand it, sterilize the area allowing you to flood it out without letting any spores into the environment. Maybe.

[@lavidian14]

There’s a mod that allows the desalinators to become fully automated! If I recall correctly, once the salt is full, it just drops it right on the ground.

[@Silvergrunt-zj6po]

So, I don't play the game but i do like watching how you play it, but I was wondering why not use the freezing vacuum at the top of the map to freeze the water then use conveyor loader to ship the ice down to the farm? Since large area of the map should be close to or under freezing but would that help make more or less spaghetti lines.🤔

[@delsucksatgames4926]

Space isn't cold in ONI. It's just a vacuum that prevents temperature transfer. Hot things will stay hot and cold things stay cold unless there's some interaction between them that does allow transfer. Like a puddle of liquid to absorb the heat of a machine and a cooling pipe through the liquid to absorb the heat from the pool. 😊

[@Ominiphis]

Carbon geyser erupts at -51 degrees F combine that with water drip is auto ice and carbon to feed em. Its a cool system I built.

[@wheany]

The only problem with CO2 geysers is that CO2 has a very bad thermal capacity. Even though the CO2 is very cold, it doesn't take a lot to heat it up. I thought I was super lucky for getting double CO2 geysers almost right on top of one another, so I made a big room for all the free cooling I coule be getting. I piped it into my colony and... it doesn't get very far before warming up. I mean, it's still free chilling, it's just not very good at it

[@Ominiphis]

@@wheany It keeps 10 metal tiles at 11 degrees along with 20 aloe plants feeding it with the ice it makes currently 12 tons on oxi and 1070 tons of ice.

[@Graeme91]

Can you not load water from a pitcher pump into the ice maker using an auto sweeper?

[@demonocolips]

while it would waste water a rectangular room at below freezing temperature with robominers and autosweepers in it would be a more automated way to produce ice. it has some other issues but would reduce duplicate labor.

[@OneOfDisease]

Yeah. Burning energy to make ice seems like a losing battle, but that infinite steam machine kind of defeats the purpose of energy.

[@fredrik1727]

Love the series

[@KyouTGD]

What's more effective for mass producing ice? A bunch of ice makers, or pouring water into a super cool room with an robo miner?

[@Kurock1000]

Can you just… freeze a tank full of water for ice? I’m not sure that would work, what does frozen water turn into?

[@gianpreisner]

You should use the naphtha for the liquid locks, probably better than mercury

[@KaedysKor]

For an ice factory, why not segment the water into 1-kilo packets (so it won't freeze in the pipes), chill it below -3 C, and then drop it into opened mechanical airlocks, similar to how regolith tiles are forced into debris state? You used the door trick to make natural tiles, so despite your resistance to infinite storage solution, it's clear you're not opposed to using some of the...eccentricities of the game engine.

[@cranberrysauce61]

huh, well found out that pneumatic doors, airflow and mesh tiles let 100% of sunlight through. but airflow and mesh tiles will block any other types of light. just oni things.

[@xoso599]

So can you use it as a filter, or can you prime the tile with sunlight to allow other sources of light in?

[@cranberrysauce61]

@@xoso599 that part i dont know. not sure how oni handles combined light sources vs the airflow/mesh tiles

[@johnchiz54]

can't the auto sweepers supply water from a pitcher pump?

[@tofloaf]

Echo cold salt water for ice, hot ice water for thermal? That way you get more "Juice" less squeeze...

[@hacknslashn5903]

Can the auto sweeper work the ice maker and pitcher pump?

[@marekw7562]

Hi Echo! hope you're well. just a thought come through my mind.... why can't we make a pool of water with cooling loop that drop it below 0 C with auto-miner to brake it into ice chunks? it wouldn't be as cool as your solution but maybe lighter in dup labor efficiency.

[@geoffreyhebel2438]

28:00 something wonky with the power for your nectar farm lighting

[@supergg-hh7ck]

Swipers can take out the water from manual liquid pump thingi This way you can make it 0 dupe labor (tho it be annoying) The swiper must access both the icemaker and the pump to transport it

[@AlexanderBurgers]

No, they cannot. That only works with liquid metals and liquid metals only.

[@mayorlagerbeer]

Auto sweepers can use pitcher pump. You can put the ice makers beside the pitcher pump and auto sweepers will fill them.

[@glacier4911]

Only works with certain liquid Metals. I think. Or else my 2600 hours in ony have been for nothing😂😅😅😅😅😅😊

[@misspotato813]

I am probably not the first way to say it at this point, but sweepers can sweep from pitcher pumps.

[@DriwChannel]

Something that I preferer to use in saunas now is a liquid to spread the heat instead templeshift, just because cost a lot of resources and time to built them, using a metal pipes (refined preferee) with oil/petroleum probabbly event nuclear waste is faster to build and works probabbly even better. I don't know why but templeshift works good when will put a metal tile or diamond window between them, if there is nothing just gases or liquids it's too slow between templeshift, 3 or more. NOTE: it's just a my opnion and experience xD at the past I always build a lot of templateshift.

[@xXMGVXx]

Mash tiles stop liquids from forming tiles and output their content on the floor as something conveyors can pick up. Creating water from saltwater to make ice is especially not efficient. Cooling saltwater into brine results in ice that does not form tiles under any circumstances. Conveniently enough it also forms two layers with the saltwater resting on the brine. If you close the saltwater input at 500kg per tile and start pumping away the lower layer at the same density the system will be stable at 10° C no matter how much cooling you put into it and output ice very quickly. I have not found an efficient way to deal with brine aside from boiling but desalinating actual saltwater is really a waste if the goal is ice. The whole brine chiller takes 20 tiles at most without the cooling system.

[@overlordkye]

It sucks that the comments gave you shit about asset names. They can be aloe veras and plum squashes if you want them to be, dangit. This isn’t the Oxford English Dictionary, and anyone giving you shit can go revisit their own orthography for dangling participles and ‘creative’ spelling. Games are for fun! Let fun be had! OOOH, ice factory! It makes sense, you need ice to feed your plants (not to mention making wallpaper and floor tiles out of it is possible, now). It’s gonna be a heat-heavy system, but it shouldn’t need to run often enough to truly tax the cooling loop. And the automation in the oxygen farm should help a lot with dupe labour. It’s always a treat to get to see something new evolve like this; can’t wait to see how it shakes out in practice, what the up times are like and if it’ll need more tuning.

[@ForeverLostInOz]

Not sitting here hoping for another zombie apocalypse. Nope not doing that. 😂

[@Imaginationless916]

13:30 oh no, this is why I've been blasting natural sporechid spawns with radiation from like a wheezewort or something.

[@ulvert751]

Indeed. I always kill sporechid germs with radiation. A wheezewort or a radiation lamp depending on the situation.

[@hardkur]

why not aqua-tuners into auto-miner combo to make ice without any dupe labor ?

[@BouncingTribbles]

There is a mod that fixes mesh tile to always let light through.

[@TracyRedinger]

put the solar panels up one tile

[@Terrariaiscool1234]

w

[@trashpanda9433]

You should go back and play the tilted asteroid and the mini asteroid again

[@Bunny13Bugs13]

Why not just freeze the water and use auto digger?

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Because I was the dumb.

[@dean4939]

@@EchoRidgeGaming You would have to watch the conversion rate from water to ice making sure it does not create a natural tile. you would loose half the mass when dug up. There are some niobium tamers that have some potential to make ice (with obvious changes), without the sweepers using the auto bottler. Just use a liquid vent in combination with a liquid valve to limit the flow so it instantly turns to ice when it hits a super chilled plate and sweep it away. With a system like this you could keep it separate from your cooling loop and eliminate a ton of dupe labor, pipes and cables. As a side note I realize your not going to space but you may want to include it for viewers that do go to space, when playing late game to swap out all your iron ore wires to refined metals, preferably steel when later on its easy to come by, as you can get twice as much steel from that one piece of iron ore. Or gold/ copper if you have a volcano is even better.. Game On!

[@Bunny13Bugs13]

@@EchoRidgeGaming You were creative 😝 I like your videos very much, they also make me feel much better when I connect bridges the wrong way))) And oh boy, I do that a lot 🤪

[@ForeverLostInOz]

Things working differently in different situations? ONI magic!

[@antisocialian]

🧟🧟

[@BlehMehe]

Ice factories is a thing now with this new dlc 2lgitcity made a video before 2 year about using AETN to produce ice but wasn’t useful cuz why do i need ice except for ice fan but now its amazing setting on 700t of ice no dubs labour to power consumption

[@gavindawson1332]

Bros pipe line spaghetti is worse then Satisfactory belt spaghetti.

[@Zep3lino]

can´t you just put the brine as 1kg paket through a desalination and get the ice?

[@megaton8561]

Why

[@mowinckel10]

Yaz

[@NovanNation]

my friend you should re check the information its ad based views now not view views. sadly every time someone skips an ad now you lose that chunky paper. unless you care only for the popularity then yea the views count but if they dont watch ads you dont get paid.

[@Caldaron]

hahah you know you just created ann unnecessary not duplicate for every smart storage right?

[@DriwChannel]

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