Iceberg | Pokémon Gold Silver and Crystal

[@cayder7485]

This came onto the right man’s recommended page. Great work brother

[@RealEisenBerg]

And there's more to come, friend! Thanks a lot!

[@Starveed]

We all love Gen 2 don't we

[@cayder7485]

@@StarveedCrystal was my first pokemon game I’ll watch anything involving pokemon but if it’s gen 2 you bet I’m interested 🤣

[@CuppaGi]

??? type was, to my knowledge, introduced as an easy fix for a Gen 1 bug. In Gen 1, Struggle was considered a Normal type move, meaning it couldn't hit Ghost type Pokemon. Rather than reprogram the entire battle system to allow for this specific move to hit Ghost types, they added the ??? Type, which was given to Struggle. That way, Struggle would be able to hit all types regardless of resistances and immunities. I believe Curse was also given the ??? Type to allow for the unique effect when used by Ghost types vs any other Type. In Gen 5, they seem to have rebuilt a lot of the mechanics meaning they could account for moves like Curse and Struggle. So Curse was swapped to the Ghost type, arguably its intended type from the beginning, and Struggle was made typeless.

[@Speedrunner0218]

Struggle is actually given the normal type in gen 2. I know this from the disassembly. The move just deals typeless damage

[@TecTitan]

I've been trying to find an answer to settle this for myself through google but it's completely useless. The only way I can satisfy myself on this and truly know for sure would be to learn how to read the code and pull the game apart myself. Way too much work. Didn't want to take anybody's "word for it" as that defeats the purpose of trying to find the answer myself.

[@JG-dz3rn]

I love the idea that Blue’s gym is filled with almost all gen 1 and 2 Pokémon, it’d be very on brand

[@pikabluowner]

It was recently shown that the program he made was actually made to make the game load faster not to make Kanto fit into the Gen 2 games It was actually really needed and saved us all lots of time

[@RadikAlice]

Agreed! And it was something he'd already made, what was it used on? MOTHER, AKA, EarthBound Beginnings. That series has had some rotten luck over here First one was ready for release and got the same treatment as Final Fantasy 1, red carpet kinda thing. But then it got shutdown for the same reason as Star Fox 2 even tho it was done

[@ijvmo123]

In a way, what he did still technically allowed the Kanto region to fit into the gen 2 games. Because the game would have been next-to-unplayable otherwise without that loading speed and thus the concept would have most likely been scrapped to save on memory. Just like what they did with a bunch of pokemon that were intended for generation 1 or the island you were meant to go to via the SS Anne, which left us all with the Missingno glitch and Glitch city. Not everything has to be about semantics... after all, making video games is not easy.

[@RadikAlice]

@@ijvmo123 Agreed. And as someone getting into gamedev, can confirm I've broken previously working features by doing simple things

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@@ijvmo123I like how we got the map for the missing city in the Gigaleak and it’s a single building with a truck nearby. No wonder why Game Freak cut it. 😂

[@Klavinmour]

According to the Pokemon Adventures manga which are tied to the games, Red was on Mt Silver looking to heal the injuries he suffered in his battles with the Elite Four. Lorelei's cursed ice had caused some pretty lingering damage to his hands and feet which caused him to lose strength, and according to Sabrina the hot springs of Mt Silver could help because she suffered the same injury.

[@Redolentleek]

The adventures manga are actually one of the better mangas I’ve read

[@pixelatedsethtube1271]

Wtf lol then silver comes along and kicks his ass? Lol

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

why do we fight him then?

[@Klavinmour]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 Training, after the events of the Gen 2 manga Red and Gold both go up the mountain to train together.

[@almond3066]

Meh, the manga also makes up alot of weird shit too that obviously isn't cannon to the games like the Sabrina being apart of team rocket and I think leaf too (pretty sure it was one of the female protags) and other strange plot changes, id take any "cannon" from it with a ginormous heap of salt

[@tdoran616]

These Pokemon game specific icebergs are just what I wanted

[@RealEisenBerg]

All generations will be available in the near future!

[@Reefer-Rampage69]

@@RealEisenBergGOAT

[@chimosgameclub9765]

The Iwata thing isn completely true. He made a tool that made the game faster, it actually fills more due to it. It wasnt an compresion tool. Did you know gaming just released info on this.

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

Ah yes, DYKG is always correct

[@chimosgameclub9765]

@@hectorlumbagoCringe that info id pretty correct

[@AntonioBaker-q4o]

@@chimosgameclub9765and I’m not wrong either

[@Thecastofthelast]

Yeah the creators themselves made the correction ​@chimosgameclub9765

[@Weeblicker]

"Although he was not part of Nintendo at the time, Iwata assisted in the development of Pokémon Gold and Silver, which were released for the Game Boy Color in November 1999, by creating a set of compression tools utilized for graphics in the games." -Wikipedia, citing a 2009 interview with satoru iwata. So, yeah.

[@forrrrestjohncave]

Your Pokemon iceberg videos are super nostalgic. I love these man, keep them up.

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thanks a lot! And Merry Christmas!

[@408Eric]

Quickly becoming one of my newest favorite channels. The nostalgia I get from your videos is insane. Hope you do one for my favorite game, Emerald. Much love.

[@RealEisenBerg]

The Gen 3 Pokémon Iceberg will definitely be made. It's one of my favorite generations, so expect an even better video. I hope you enjoy the rest of the content too

[@bigz4829]

Great video. Great series idea. Cut the intro to just “say my name” it’ll work better and it still the pun across. We want to dive into the video content as quick as possible! 😅

[@swishersweets727]

Mann I love small channels that are growing because they are HUNGRY. produce amazing content. Keep going bro

[@6v6IsForCaveDwellers]

Preach

[@komyuhachi]

Just found your Red/Blue/Yellow iceberg about 2 hours ago, great surprise and great videos! You're gonna go far :D

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thank you so much, my friend :D Enjoy the content!

[@d2k.xo5996]

Same

[@Vincent-vn7xo]

Channels and videos like these are why I love youtube. Thank you for this

[@Klink-klic]

Congratulations Eisen for the 2.45k followers, keep it up bro

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thanks a lot my friend!

[@drbkalt7765]

13:30 Actually that is wrong! The pokemon center in New York had a "gotta catch em all" machine where players could obtain various pokemon with special moves including legendaries and their shiny forms. Shiny mew was obtainable from one of those machines, so it is in fact possible for shiny mew to legitimately exist in gen 2 games.

[@ontheedgeofshadow2790]

“They need lots of loves.” Is honestly kinda cute even if it’s horribly translated 🤣

[@pablodelgado7919]

It's a shame that the vast majority of the Pokémon in the Space World demo never saw the light of day in future games. They could re-work some of them into new Pokémon

[@diretrip]

It's a dream of mine.

[@pablodelgado7919]

@@diretrip same here

[@SomeoneNamedMark]

Some of them, actually a good amount have been reworked into pokemon. 1 example is 30:10 eventually being cranidos from gen 4. I actually am happy alot the pokemon didnt make it. They dont like pokemon and some are straight up creepy.

[@MotherOfSorrows]

some of them may appear when they do another Johto remake, or some Legend spin-off. We can hope! :D

[@5naf6]

there is a fanmade game, pokemon gold/silver reforged, that uses all the space world beta pokemon

[@SIX-000H-THR33]

There is so many good story opportunities for a Legends Johto tie in arceus with unkown, the burned tower, the unnamed pokemon resurrected by ho-oh, Kurt and his apricotballs. Endless gold.

[@NoLeaksLouiee]

Really great video! Hella fun watch!

[@RealEisenBerg]

I hope you also like Gen III. Greetings!

[@NoLeaksLouiee]

@@RealEisenBerg i’ve binged quite a few of your videos so i know i will!

[@honjon666]

8:28 if you trade over a mewtwo from rby it will also be holding the berserk gene. I remember doing this with all my rby pokemon back in the day. I think the kanto birds will be holding a brightpowder? All the weird items and mystery gift furniture was so... mysterious back then lol. GSC is my favorite. Thanks for making the video and great job :) I didn't know about the shinys in stadium 2 that's super cool!

[@ozzypuff8957]

Gold/Silver videos is peak youtube content.

[@colinbergmann5750]

Absolutely legendary music choice. PokeremixStudio is and always will be the king.

[@iRazenrak]

I remember someone did a playthrough of Vietnamese Crystal (but got stuck in Goldenrod) and their commentary was so fucking hilarious...

[@Mathewthechanman]

If I recall it was vinesauce Vinny or Joel who did Vietnam crystal

[@VolatileViolet]

​@@Mathewthechanman Joel did back in 2015, I believe. Good ol' Duane.

[@dragonfye1]

I came across the ‘Unown Radio Signal’ by accident in my playthrough of Silver Version as a little girl…it SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME, especially when my older brother said he legitimately didn’t know what to make of it himself. 😅 I felt a A LOT better when he went to the Ruins of Alph on his copy of Gold Version and got the same result…clearly it WAS coded into the game for SOME reason, we just didn’t know WHAT. I was a Senior in high school before discovering that it was meant to simply be the Unown.

[@Vitamin_Bleach2]

super enjoyable, enjoying the pokémon icebergs

[@RealEisenBerg]

Next one will be Gen III!

[@ChannleForProjects]

Love the scope of the content covered but i wish you went further in detail for many of the individual topics, some were really interesting but only got a few sentences

[@EdMarshall]

This was such a good watch, appreciate the effort that went into this!

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thanks a lot, I appreciate that you liked the content. It takes a while, but I want my watchers to enjoy. If you like Gen III, soon I'll release a video about it. Have a nice week!

[@VCiPz]

Amazing content, totally worth subscribing 🎉

[@VictorLopez-vc6cf]

Another great video!

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thank you for watching! I'll happily bring you more Pokémon icebergs for all generations. Please, subscribe to my channel, give this video a thumbs up so more people can discover my content, and don't forget to give some love to my other iceberg videos too! 😃

[@dragooncroft]

11:45 this actually happened to me as well, maybe 15 years ago, where I got a shiny ariodos. I was a naive kid and thought it was just a cool ball gimmick (like the stickers in DP, which was out at the time) but looking back it all makes sense now.

[@Xpwnxage]

I have vague memories of encountering a wild shiny in Fire Red and not catching it because I didn't know what a shiny was.

[@Solidjj]

Awesome sauce

[@matthewcady5945]

to the top with this one!!

[@A3AnimeArtAwesome]

Great video with good pacing and a ton of research done in this. Thank you for sharing

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thanks a lot for your words. I hope you enjoy the upcoming ones!

[@renakunisaki]

The reason shiny-locked mons still have shiny forms is because they have to. The game has a data block for each mon that defines its name, stats, colors, etc. It's like a printed form; every mon has the same form and just different information on it. But, you can't leave an entry in a data block blank; there has to be _something_ there.

[@ScyonHikari01]

I like your voice it was pleasant watching the whole video which is rare for me, thank you so much I’ll subscribe

[@RealEisenBerg]

Welcome to the channel, and I'm glad you liked my voice and the video. There's more content to come 😃

[@Conner3326]

The berserk gene wasn’t the only item to only exist in gen 2, the pink bow was the normal-type boosting item in GSC but was replaced with the silk scarf gen 3-onwards

[@killwillv2610]

Awesome video and thank you for it.

[@marawe1292]

1:30 i've allways thought the name is Alph-ruins cause alf and his alien-race was there...

[@cultofvapingcat181]

W channel, needs more subs.

[@youwayo]

Should’ve mentioned the Korean version of Pokémon Gold and Silver. They were the only Pokémon games to come out in South Korea before they lifted the Japan Import ban. Also they can only be played in a gameboy color because of the needed for the Korean letters.

[@WiiFan-1300]

Eisenberg back at it with another banger

[@chaosvirus9749]

I didn't know i needed to see armored octillery but it's clearly the Superior one

[@dronagon2562]

Great video!

[@alrome9182]

All of your videos are really good. I discovered your channel recently, binged watched it and subscribed. I wonder if you know about Gen 2 Glitch City and the Glitch City Ghost Girl?

[@bet0v966]

The Eevee/dog thing got shot down b/c the beta dex has the 3 beasts in their beta form. Also before Lugia was put in their was another possible legendary in a silver lion beast, the one of the Cryptodex logo, whose dex entry is close to Ho-Ohs. Which leads to the new ongoing theory that Ho-Oh was meant to lead the 3 birds & this silver beast the 3 dogs

[@RealEisenBerg]

That's actually an amazing theory about that Pokémon and it actually makes sense. Greetings!

[@earth_bound_misfit]

My take on the legendary beasts were that they were 3 Eevee. To me it makes more since that 3 unevolved normal types would have died in the fire, because why would fire and water types have died in the fire. It still fits with with all of the eeveelution theory’s evidence, plus I think it fits better with the idea that they represent the lighting that stuck the tower, the fire that burned it down, and the rain that put it out if they were turned into those types rather than already being them.

[@seriousblackNI]

Look at their stats, they're pretty much boosted eeveelutions

[@earth_bound_misfit]

@@seriousblackNI I’m not disputing that, I just like to think that they were eevees that were basically turned into better eeveelutions

[@jeremyrennerapp]

@@earth_bound_misfithe’s supporting your theory lmao

[@earth_bound_misfit]

@@jeremyrennerapp sorry I misinterpreted it then, I had just got off work

[@siddhartacrowley8759]

No. The former legendary beasts were in their paradox form before the tower burning.

[@donnyf88]

Another eigenberg video. Lets goooo. 2k subs incoming!

[@WastedYear1]

This content is amazing. Hope to see more like this. Subbed!

[@RealEisenBerg]

There's a Gen III video coming to the channel. I'm glad you enjoyed the content!

[@WastedYear1]

My favorite gen, looking forward to watch it!@@RealEisenBerg

[@EdgarOmega22]

17:00 remeber that in HG/SS are no mega evolutions and in US/UM is the mega evolutions universe (there are 2 universes confirmed by Zinnia in OR/AS) that Giovanni we saw in US/UM is the one in HG/SS who is somehow teleported to the mega evolition universe and became the leader of raibow rocket recruiting leaders of other teams from the no mega evolutions universe, that's why we see Archie and Maxie (different from the ones in OR/AS

[@lasercraft32]

Beta Wooper my beloved. ☺

[@sergeynazaro1768]

Great work I learned a lot

[@stanstansky5522]

In Pokémon stadium 1/2 you would have many different colours for your Pokémon depending on what you nicknamed them

[@nickw7452]

Shiny Pokémon were easy in gen 2 provided you can trade. Catch the red gyarados, trade to gen 1. Teach mimic, go find a ditto, then mimic transform. The ditto will copy shiny gyarados then let it use transform 1 more time to copy stats. Now catch the ditto and it’ll be shiny. You can use this for breeding and have 1/64 chance of shiny hatches.

[@timahsheuer7424]

One in 64 is only when both parents are shiny

[@nickw7452]

@@timahsheuer7424 no it’s 1/64 chance for majority so long as ditto is the parent. Highest odds are 1/256 due to female hatch and how shiny mechanics work in gen 2. You are wrong, research more before replying.

[@nickw7452]

Furthermore some female shiny forms are locked due to DV never actually coming to the needed number.

[@timahsheuer7424]

@@nickw7452 just looked it up on smogon. 1/64 is only with pokemon that have either 100% male gender or 100% female gender. the other one with 1/64 is starters and eevee with 87.5% male gender

[@timahsheuer7424]

you should stick to your own advice

[@abieselroman1937]

Please more Pokemon iceberg videos btw don’t know how I found u but damn what a gem u just earned another subscriber ❤

[@RealEisenBerg]

Of course, there are many many more to come!

[@SourDohSteele]

My 1st ever shiny was in Gold Version, a dratini outside of Blackthorn City. I thought it was a glitch.

[@emiliotorres8480]

"in bed everybody will pull out" wtf 💀😂

[@OliverMKP]

One thing worth mentioning regarding shiny locked Pokemon is that Generation 2 started to shiny lock Pokemon, not Gen 5 as many people believe. In addition to the ones you mentioned, all NPC trades are shiny locked starting with Generation 2 all the way up to the modern games. Only games where NPC trades are not shiny locked are Gen 1, the Let's GO games and interestingly enough, the Isle of Armor DLC in SwSh.

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

Amazing work

[@jenisia3600]

Lots of question but not many answers. Still a interesting vid. Also it was revealed recently that they "forgot" Kris during the beginning dev for HG/SS.

[@giannisorfanidis6904]

We want more pokemon iceberg.Hooray

[@ben_sisko2149]

3:95 I got a shinny Crabby in my 1st playthough of Silver as a kid. I found him under a rock (literally XD) in Cianwood city just by pure chance

[@darthvinedits]

you gain a sub bro. currently playing HG on my phone.

[@RealEisenBerg]

Welcome to the community!

[@aarjul100]

the three legendary dogs theory didnt age that well… ^^

[@Thorozak]

Interesting that the medicine was going to be in Ecruteak rather than Cianwood, they share music after all

[@KeeganRusz]

I remember as a kid when pkmn like whooper got leaked and how it blew my mind. A classmate of mine had pkmn silver with a caught lugia on his copy and that was impressive to me. The whole pkmn silver/gold ( I had gold ) era was a vibe. Crystal felt somehow different, like a completion. It felt like freedom. I never forget it, its burned in my memories. The ice cave before the 8th gym was hard af lmao

[@wnrr2696]

I just want sequels or side story’s to OOT MM WW and the third oracle with remakes of the other two and the link thing work with all three then some kind of minish cap sequel. I just feel like hearing a mad announcement like Ocarina of Time 2, Majora’s Mask 2, WindWaker2, Minish Cap 2 sounds cool

[@JoeSnoe126]

(01:48) the ruins at that angle gives me Sada/Turo battle vibes

[@anthonyfromcanada]

Some of them are just wrong... Like the "compression algorithm"... No he made a code to improve frame rate buffers, and in fact results in more used storage space not less.

[@silviocupica2521]

True!

[@anannoyedpanda]

how dare someone be wrong. You did a good thing being pedantic on an entertaining video! Bravo jackass.

[@DarkestVoid]

And that info came out not that long ago whineass lmao. You’d really only know because of DYKG lmao

[@203Leakerz]

i remember getting my first shiny from the karate guru in the cave in johto Shiny tyrouge i was so amazed i thought it was a glitch lmaooo (crystal)

[@sevasentinel4146]

I really like beta Kingdra; it might even be cooler looking than its final design.

[@Kthomy401]

What game is he playing at 5:48? It looks like gold and silver but on a Nintendo switch?

[@tdoran616]

Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver. Released in 2010 on the DS.

[@ReddyRisery]

Dude it's on ds not switch lol

[@garchompelago]

Im going to subscribe assuming that youll do an iceberg video for Pokemon Gens 3 onwards.

[@carcas77]

Nice video

[@alexanderstilianov]

20:08 This brings back such bad memories...

[@RJS2003]

I wish there was a way we could see and catch all of those cool scrapped pokémon, the scorpion and skeleton one are my favorites. :)

[@varenemerald]

I played the spaceworld rom and found a shiny caterpie

[@AlexTheChaosFox1996]

29:00 this sprite is veeeeerrrry similar to Fennekin from X & Y

[@Fiwek23452]

Thank god you are saying arceus in the correct way

[@HoneySoakedSeagull]

Manaphy was shiny locked which was in gen 4, albeit a different way. The original game you trade it to cannot hatch a shiny, it's made to not be able to be shiny to that user. That's why the manaphy shiny hunt requires you to trade the egg to another game and hatch it there to try and shiny hunt it. Also, as shown by did you know gaming, the compression algorithm actually took up space, not saved it. It didn't allow for more content to be added, that was the larger flash chip. What it did allow was better loading speeds giving it an actual playable experience.

[@threehead99]

Iwota didn't save any space with his algorithm. All the shit he added COST space on the cartridge. That myth needs to die.

[@notfound2058]

I remember my joy when I saw Kanto included in my Pokemon Crystal, all thanks to Satoru Iwata. May he rest in peace

[@flikkie72]

Giovanni in team Rainbow Rocket is probably a parallel universe-Giovanni. He even states (in maybe a bit of a broken translation) that he's never had a kid challenge him before, but it makes him feel nostalgic nevertheless (...子供に詰めよられる。わたしにとってありえないことだがなぜだか懐かしくもある。). Implying that he hasn't been faced by Red, Blue, Ethan or Kris, but somehow shares a memory with the parallel universe Giovanni who _was_ defeated by them.

[@B34RProductions]

The “iwata saving Pokémon gold/silver” is not entirely true. The program he wrote only saved on loading times and animations and had nothing to do with fitting kanto inside gen 2

[@pimpingkek4947]

imagine the pokemon vault of rejected pokemon they sift back through every time there's a new generation

[@owentf2]

"Our words will remain here for the ages"

[@Insert_Bland_Name_Here]

I love that Spaceworld 97's version of Unown, アンノーン, just looks like a canonized MissingNo.

[@kylespevak6781]

25:56 It would have been so metal if they made MissingNo official

[@TheZeroNeonix]

Holy carp. Gen 2 had SO MANY unused Pokemon. Also, I really want to try that version of the game that was still on the original Game Boy, with it's limited pallet. Those ugly sprites and limited colors are nostalgic to me. lol

[@thetaeisenberg9902]

Great video...by any chance are you my spiderverse variant ? 🤔

[@RealEisenBerg]

Worlds collided Enjoy the rest of my videos!

[@thetaeisenberg9902]

@@RealEisenBerg will do 😊

[@Jhoto]

My moms cooking has me up at 3am watching this on the toilet

[@RealEisenBerg]

Please get better!

[@ghguyrur7]

So ho-oh can turn feline into k9? Okay got it

[@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS]

They're not dogs.

[@Lotaded]

I would seriously love a gen 3 ice berg because there is way too little information covered for it

[@slantblant1]

On the Stadium games, nicknames and random occurrences can both cause shinies to appear.

[@tismo3749]

A few problems with your video, 1. In the Pokémon adventures manga red goes back home after losing to gold on mount silver, 2. There are multiple timelines in Pokémon, just because the games have an order doesn’t mean that’s the chronological order nor does it mean that it takes place in the same world. The events of X and Y are known as the “Mega Timeline” where every everything from gen 1 to gen 6 are in the “Mega Timeline” where as everything after is not. In the timeline where Red and Blue show up in Alola, their world was mostly destroyed after Kyogre and Groudon destroyed the planet, meaning they are separate from the red and blue we have from kanto to kalos. If you remember when they showed up in that game it was during the rainbow rocket after game, where multiple evil leaders came from different timelines to the timeline that takes place for us in the alola region games. If you do the end game wormholes for legendary Pokémon and ultra beasts, you will travel to a world where guzzlord has eaten all Pokémon, people and everything else.

[@resurrekt7114]

Luvdisc's shiny is gold-esque, potentially as a nod to the term "a heart of gold" Additionally, the Beldum line has silver-esque shinies Could that also be a nod to the then-theorized Johto remakes or is it too much of a stretch?

[@OfLastingThunder]

We should live in a world where Woopers design never changed.

[@seniormoros_rose6402]

Beta wooper was so good they turned it into a starter

[@death__ray]

I have a shiny E Unown in my SS game!! and I think shortly after I caught another shiny Gyarados (not the one everyone gets, but a second one)

[@ultraslang]

Time stamps for each ice berg level is needed 💯 and needs a picture of the full iceberg.

[@RealEisenBerg]

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'll take it into account!

[@PuniBelserion]

26:19 primarina is that you? And 29:24 is that a zygarde blob?