Iconography in Ancient Judaism & Why it Stopped

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Jeem

Jeem

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@josephfox9221
@josephfox9221 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, iconography and saint veneration has been the hardest thing for me going from Protestant to Orthodoxy. Also if you can expand more on the changes of modern Judaism and classical? That's something I haven't heard much about that before
@Jeem196
@Jeem196 2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it around the 7min mark, but I'm going to also do a video specifically on this subject alone. Judaism used to be priestly, it had a temple, sacrifices, a liturgical worship, and the Bible was the primary text. Today, Judaism has none of those things and the Talmud is the primary text. David and Solomon did not read from the Talmud, and they lived amongst a Temple run by priests, with incense, imagery, and sacrifice. All the elements the Orthodox and Catholic Churches uphold today, which Judaism does not.
@IrishOrtodoxa
@IrishOrtodoxa 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. The continuity with the Old Testament is a key issue.
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve 2 жыл бұрын
7:50. Hahaha. Man that was funnnny. THE OLD TESTAMENT. THEY HVE THE OLD TESTAMENT. HAHA. Good one my kind Sr. Good video as always. If you ever hve a chance can you do a video on your take on GEN. 6 1-4. THE SONS OF GOD. Thank you in advanced. Love your videos and i also send it to other individuals.. 👍🏼🕊️🙏🏼
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Жыл бұрын
Yes.....and frankly....I think that Synagogue with icons is the most beautiful thing I've seen from the Ancient World.....wow. How could you not appreciate that!!! Titus would have understood and appreciated it. Before tearing it down. We would have.
@Masahanate-777
@Masahanate-777 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you brother
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus pbuh and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secret text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim [ line of ismail ]
@temesgenkidane7860
@temesgenkidane7860 Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation Your brother from Ethiopian orthodox 🙏
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Жыл бұрын
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus pbuh and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secret text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim [ line of ismail ]
@LeviShinah-gy2fl
@LeviShinah-gy2fl Жыл бұрын
Can african american come to the ethiopian church
@nickkerinklio8239
@nickkerinklio8239 9 ай бұрын
@@LeviShinah-gy2flAfrican Americans can come to any Eastern Orthodox Church. Greek, Antiochian, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, etc… you are welcome to all.
@Bunfire123
@Bunfire123 2 жыл бұрын
This was very informative.
@johanpretorius3398
@johanpretorius3398 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@dimitak8326
@dimitak8326 Жыл бұрын
Brother, you ROCK! Looking forward to the day of your advancement to deacon, presbyter and ultimately bishop and unparalleled contemporary Apostle to the Jews and their brothers in iconoclasm Protestants IC XC NI KA
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos.
@Simeon_777
@Simeon_777 Жыл бұрын
May God bless you aswell! 🙏
@Jaunyus
@Jaunyus 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. I think a distinction needs to be made between the "use" of images and the "veneration" of icons. While we can certainly make a case for the use of images (as John of Damascus wonderfully does) prior to the 8th century, how far back does the veneration of images go? Peace
@joshuaparsons887
@joshuaparsons887 5 ай бұрын
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@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 2 жыл бұрын
Hey jeem you seem very knowledgeable sir would you do a series debunking gnostic Christianity and theories on diversity in earliest Christianity. Critical scholarship is now using this to support gnosticism as just as valid and it's hindered me in turning to Orthodox fully sadly even though I do also think it is the most ancient form of Christianity we have available. Please help and pray for me and others like myself
@private_channel11
@private_channel11 Жыл бұрын
at 5:00 you made a little mistake i think, Moses has seen Jesus, everytime that someone sees God he sees the Son
@joshuaparsons887
@joshuaparsons887 5 ай бұрын
True, the Father reveals himself through the Son
@abominable.7800
@abominable.7800 Ай бұрын
Jesus is the image of the living God, so yes.
@siervodedios5952
@siervodedios5952 2 жыл бұрын
"You gotta go give your tax dollars to the Zionist state boy!" 😂🤣
@mmore242
@mmore242 2 жыл бұрын
How old were the synagogues?
@AnonAnon-by3ok
@AnonAnon-by3ok Жыл бұрын
Bro I'm sorry if I come across as wrong but you look like a mature, grown, smart version of Morty from Rick and Morty. I don't mean insult but you remind me of him.
@LeutherGreengager-ip1uw
@LeutherGreengager-ip1uw Жыл бұрын
The Orthodox fusion of the Dura Europos and Pompeian 'schools'.
@holycatholicapostolicfaith
@holycatholicapostolicfaith Жыл бұрын
How can you make a video this long about iconography without ever actually showing a single depiction of the iconography?
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 Жыл бұрын
lol just search the internet
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 2 жыл бұрын
I think no images entirely come out of Islams influence on both protestantism and Judaism
@bigger_mibber6029
@bigger_mibber6029 Жыл бұрын
Protestantism came later than islam
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
@@bigger_mibber6029 yes
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 Жыл бұрын
Listen to what he's saying
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
@@miastupid7911 I did
@Stardust475
@Stardust475 Жыл бұрын
Thats not true,
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Жыл бұрын
I'm not contradicting you here....but would it not be fair to say that the Epistles and the writings of "The Fathers" or "the Patriarchs" of the 2nd to 5th centuries are essentially the Christian "Talmud." We need a collection of these in one place now I think to contrast these men to the Hadiths and the Talmud.
@private_channel11
@private_channel11 Жыл бұрын
the problem is that the talmud contraddicts scripture under lots of points
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 3 ай бұрын
@@private_channel11 I think what he's trying to say is that the Epistles are to the Faith like what the Talmud is to Rabbinic Judaism.
@TheOrthodoxPunjabi
@TheOrthodoxPunjabi 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to learn more about what jews think of Christians see my latest video! Thanks for this vid Jeem
@chillypapapanda
@chillypapapanda 7 ай бұрын
Methinks you may be arguing against a Christian (Protestant) view of Judaism, instead of a Jewish view of Judaism concerning icons. Your trip to the JCC shows this. You also mistakenly state that the Talmud is recited seven times a week while the Torah is said only once, this isn't true. Also, the Talmud is a commentary on the Mishnah and not the Torah, though the Torah is quoted and commented on a lot. There is so much misinformation out there, please don't perpetuate more in the name of Orthodoxy.
@marchelomanchev5317
@marchelomanchev5317 5 ай бұрын
You say much misinformation but there is none, what his other videos about rabbinism where he addresses these points. That’s way off the topic, it’s about iconography and he’s fully right
@chillypapapanda
@chillypapapanda 5 ай бұрын
@@marchelomanchev5317 judaism still uses iconography, not in the way EO does, but it does use it. Have you looked at the temple website? Also, have you been too a synagogue? My point to the poster was that if he intends to prove that Judaism is wrong from on Eastern Orthodox point of view, he should be very careful about what he states about Judaism. So far, I think anyone who is Jewish who watches this with its false information will turn away and think EO doesn't have much to offer.
@SyedMuhammadMoaz3634
@SyedMuhammadMoaz3634 2 жыл бұрын
And even Quran agrees that King 👑 Solomon by Will of Allah made statues and icons in Holy Temple... Surah Saba named after Queen Sheba Arabic Saba but according to Islam her name isn't Sheba or Saba but Balquees which is common Muslim women name...
@us3rG
@us3rG Жыл бұрын
Makeda is the name of Queen
@marchelomanchev5317
@marchelomanchev5317 5 ай бұрын
If Quran agrees then why doesn’t it allow images of Allah or Muhammad? And Quran has a lot of different names of people, it calls Jesus isa while the Arabic speaking Christian’s call him yasua, it also calls St John yahya while his actual name is yuhanna and that’s how the Arabic Christian’s call him
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