Return of the Tudor Ranger! ...But It's Not All Roses (Critique & Redesign)

[@ID-Guy]

I really want to love this watch. It’s one I’ve asked for since 2019 but wish it focused more on looking to the Future and less at its Heritage. There are many things Tudor has done right with this piece. What are your thoughts around the New Ranger?

[@19NJS71]

Size is perfect, bracelet nice.. but the rest.. hey it’s 2022

[@BRGYVR]

Awesome review 👏. Thanks so much. I went to my AD and saw the Ranger in person. I didn't get that I must have IT feeling like the fxd, bb pro, bb chrono. However it is growing on me. As I have completed my Tudor Trinity :-) aka my Tudor land, sea and air collection ( land = bb chrono panda / sea = mn21 / air = bb pro ). The Ranger will most likely be in the collection.

[@KC-bv9kf]

The two issues that I have you also mentioned, the negative color and the negative space. I agree with going with white. And the addition of “Chronometer” would be suffice, lol. This appeared to be a product heavily influenced by surveys and focus group rather than a vision. The size, color, and even shape. It’s like that person that wears all the popular “in things” but losing a little bit of their true self. Another 5 years, the faux antiquing are at risk of becoming a cliché. Their design team should take a few lessons from the Zulu Time. Your redesign is much more contemporary, attractive, honest and hence timeless.

[@kojiattwood]

I think your version is a vast improvement, frankly. Well done--

[@derosa1989]

looking at the watch on a computer screen at 50x the size in real life might make one think the dial has too much empty space, but in real life, not so much. Less text the better.

[@Sandouras]

Dude, your interpretation of the Ranger looks 1000 times better! Well done!

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you brother. If they approached it with that "clean dial" mindset it would've looked terrific! It's literally 75% there... that's what bugs me so much.

[@nikomos6276]

Agreed. It’s a more coherent and eye pleasing design. Oh well, maybe next time Tudor 😂

[@mccstuff]

Agreed, it looks much better. With a watch that is so simple, the little details matter.

[@marpi30]

Can you add Rotor Self winding? I think that makes it perfekt. For me at least 😁

[@richardwarren2024]

@@ID-Guy Agree with the comments above. I wish you had been in charge of design here. I don’t buy watches the instant they are released, but I’d be really tempted to do so if your Ranger was actually released.

[@delft72]

I like the less text idea on the dial. A watch is a time keeper, and this will probably be my first Tudor purchase.

[@mdesmet9111]

Personally I love the new Ranger and its understated design. To me the crisp white numerals in your redesign seem to conflict somehow with the retro font of the numerals. I do agree that a second line of text below 'Ranger' would offer more balance/symmetry to the dial, so that's the only thing I would change.

[@typebflieger]

I just made a similar comment, but I prefer the way you articulated it. The white lume is too modern for the vintage cues of this watch. In person, I’m pretty sure the lume won’t read as overdone fauxtina. It’s pretty subtle and almost off-white.

[@bigiona3938]

I picked one up yesterday, and I just adore it. The size is great and I don’t feel like it wears like a 41mm. I have a few 40mm watches and for me it wears about the same or smaller than those. It’s very simple, but that’s what I love.

[@Ryan-pu9yw]

How's the bracelet feel?

[@Bigiona31]

@@Ryan-pu9yw Probably the best bracelet I own. Very very comfortable.

[@diemes5463]

Better than Rolex?

[@bigiona3938]

@@diemes5463 not better, just different. I have the 40mm Explorer 1 as well, love both watches and use them for very different scenarios.

[@bigiona3938]

@@Ryan-pu9yw it’s exceptional.

[@thenutcracker2921]

A very important part of their history yet this watch shares no semblance to the actual watch given to the crew of the expedition. Instead, they resurrect a different watch from 10 years later with no ties to the event. Brilliant!

[@ID-Guy]

Exactly right. People will say the same about the Rolex Explorer BUT the Oyster Prince did not birth the Ranger the same way. The enthusiasts are all rolling our eyes at the marketing ;)

[@edrader]

@@ID-Guy the oyster prince was 34mm. girly man size

[@FUNZO1975]

I like it, size, aged lume, red tip second hand, minimal dial script, everything. I feel that Tudor nailed it👍

[@joeskeptical4762]

*I don’t. The printed dial is a drawback, a big shortcoming.*

[@edrader]

@@joeskeptical4762pelagos

[@nicholaschavez6245]

Tudor now makes the tools that Rolex used to make. The Ranger isn’t perfect, but it’s a good attempt. I think it offers really good value for the price. The bracelet is probably my favorite part. If they had made your version at 37-38mm, I think it would be hard to justify my desire for an Explorer I. Another great video.

[@btyc]

An actual KZbin who revisits past predictions, right or wrong and can with humor and humility critique their own work and assumptions. Bravo - you sir are a rare breed indeed. Always been a fan of your channel and continue to be so. To your question. I like what this watch seems to indicate more than the watch itself. It seems to show that Tudor is aware of the market sentiment / community feedback and is reacting positively to it. The two examples of this to me are (1) the lack of snowflake hands, and (2) reduced dial text.

[@ID-Guy]

The humour is what makes it! There ain't no snobbery here ;) And you're right... I look at this Ranger and commend that it's an original name returning, fantastic classic hands coming back, lack of essays for the sake of it. The piece is like 75% there IT'S SO CLOSE. Bloody greeny-yellow lume...

[@UltraDoug]

For days I’ve been trying to figure why I don’t like this Ranger. Suddenly, you mentioned the color of the lume and there it was. As I stare down at the 39mm Longines Conquest in black on my wrist, what I find striking is the brilliant silvery white against the inky black. It’s simply more pleasing, inviting and dynamic. I’m fine with the homage to the past, but that color lume is lack luster and, as you mentioned, unearned. Im sure the Ranger will do fine in the market as there are many fans, it’s just not for me. Excellent vid as usual! Your interpretation is exactly what it should have been 😎👍🏼

[@ID-Guy]

That Greeny-Yellow stuck out at me the moment I saw the leak (whoops) The thing is that they are SO close to nailing this model. Like 80% there... and the end result with be a work of art. Here's hoping at least. These will be popular though so hey ;)

[@UltraDoug]

@MK II Thanks! That’s exactly why I bought it. I considered both, but the Longines overall styling won me over while maintaining an explorer feel. The price didn’t hurt either. 👍🏼

[@Rudy28330]

If people are complaining about this watch having to little writing or to much writing your not getting the field watch point. They were made to be legible in harsh conditions(combat, expeditions, low light situations etc) Im a firefighter/emt and I use it as a tool, in a basement in a corner of the room, no light getting a heart rate off a patient. My opinion, these types of watches, the more sterile the better. Love the watch, dont change a damn thing.

[@cedarcanoe]

Spot on like always. I would buy your version immediately.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you Cedar (as always) We love our vintage but man... they could have made a piece of art with this model... Modern with classic ties and something that looks to the future.

[@Angry_Gnome]

I have to agree with you. I had been waiting for this re-release too and I'm a little bit disappointed, specifically in their choice of lume color. This yellow/green that they chose is just off. White would've been perfect and maybe adding 'CHRONOMETER' under 'RANGER'

[@ID-Guy]

Why they went with Greeny-Yellow is just... it's conflicting when you see the cleanliness executed everywhere else. Love your call for "chronometer" under Ranger. The doubling of "Tudor - Geneve" and "Ranger - Chronometer" would be modern and supreme in every way. Great shout on this!

[@willemdeleeuw8094]

I agree but to keep it consistent with other modern Tudors e.g., the Pelagos and the North Flag I'd see how it looks with two lines below `Ranger': 'CHRONOMETER' then 'OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED.' It should fill the space quite nicely.

[@heiner71]

@@ID-Guy I don't think this watch is COSC certified. Would not want to have lies printed onto the dial 🙂

[@Angry_Gnome]

@@heiner71 The MT5402 movement in the Ranger and BB58 is COSC

[@heiner71]

@@Angry_Gnome You are correct!

[@jeanlefranc3817]

Haven’t seen it in the metal, but I have a feeling I’ll like the new Ranger. Beyond the historical references, the very idea of a simple toolish Tudor, with painted markers, very legible dial, the right crown size, good bracelet, a laudable movement and a competitive price tag makes sense, the same way some collectors want basic Flieger watches. This is Tudor’s version of the Sinn 556A, and that’s a good thing.

[@ID-Guy]

The 556A always comes to mind first thing and you're absolutely right. No matter what I say these machines will be popular (and I reckon on the whole they'll be well received)

[@ericb8888]

Great research! Your “ watch fatigue “ comment is spot on . You can almost hear the Sunderland pilot , and perhaps more importantly the crew saying “ come on … come on …..” as it lumbers into the air ;)

[@ID-Guy]

This watch is so, so close... that's why it breaks my heart even more ;)

[@splootan]

Best review-well done !!

[@paulbonaventura4969]

I like that the criticism has real thoughts and visual ideas behind it, unlike other reviewers that just moan and complain, your approach is very aesthetic and true

[@Anchor7]

Your changes are exactly what I would want to change as well. They were so close to nailing this watch!

[@horologyworld8750]

I love the simplicity and under the radar look of the Ranger especially in these times where people are being killed for their luxury watches. Thank you for a great video!

[@MartinGarthwaite]

Went into the Tudor Boutique in London and bought the Ranger, what a watch!

[@MrLecksy]

Darn you are so often spot on it's crazy. Also I had assumed I was subscribed to your channel for a year + having not skipped one video since. Corrected that mistake today and to many more years of great content

[@jmoore20121992]

I’d buy your version in a heartbeat. That’d be a dope watch. The classic 3,6,9,12 in a vintage font style but without the fautina lume is an awesome look. That’d be a modern watch that would probably age way better than there current release.

[@ivanharlokin]

Brilliant video, you really capture the fine margins in design between something looking great, or just a little bit 'off'. When you were talking about negative space on the dial, I agreed with you, but then looked down at my Radiomir 574 and saw that it too has a lot of blank dial. However, for some reason, (at least to me) it looks really good on that watch, and I'm not sure why. Thanks for the content.

[@ID-Guy]

Panerai's are a different animal ;) They thrive on that minimalism (always have) For Tudors and Rolexes, it's a bit head scratching. I think we have become so accustomed to seeing why some watches work so well and others don't (maybe it's just because we've been exposed to these designs for so long)

[@brianwarner44]

Great video....I stumbled upon your channel and now I'm a forever fan. Great information!

[@MrSaadmubarak]

Your thoughts are spot on, I agree with you on ever point. I would 100% buy your version... but sadly I'll pass on this model. So close, yet so far. This video made me a subscriber.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you for everything Saad. Honestly they are SO close... like 75% of the way there, maybe even 80%. A few more tweaks and this machine will be an absolute dream!

[@jollyrob]

As you said it wears larger than a 39mm makes me want it more as I usually look to 40-42. I would prefer your render though - that to me looks like the perfect everyday watch 👍

[@CanChristopher]

I agree with you on this . I had it on wrist on Friday. It was the faux patina that put me off purchasing. I’d have bought it if it was white

[@ID-Guy]

I have no idea what compelled them to go with the greeny-yellow colour. Imagine if it was clean? :/

[@derekbrettell8121]

Totally agree with you. I think it makes it look pretty grotty and ugly in all honesty

[@TriforceRich]

As usual, love to hear your perspective on this. As a 39mm Explorer owner, this model was never going to garner too much personal interest but it was very interesting to see how they basically Tudorized the discontinued model.

[@jimflynn5105]

I went to see the new Ranger today and must say I like it quite a lot. I’m not really a fan of modern Tudor so I was quite surprised that it made such a good impression.

[@reedgrabowski8314]

Another stellar video, as always. I just now had the opportunity to watch it completely. When I saw this release on Friday, all my virtual itches were scratched regarding a potentially awesome field watch. The proof though will be in trying it on and knowing more about the lug-to-lug length. Truly appreciate your critique. Evident you are not marching with the masses about this watch and that is goodness. Omega CK859 - Tudor Ranger - Omega CK859 - Tudor Ranger, where will my preferences drive me....

[@ID-Guy]

I'd pick the CK859 any day of the week. Quality watchmaking and a real heirloom piece (it's the kind of watch I'd want to hand down to the next generation) I have a feeling in my bones that these Rangers (in their current formats) won't last in most collections. The watch fatigue will be real... and I hate to admit that about a watch that I've wanted for years. Ugh, it irks me Reed...

[@reedgrabowski8314]

@@ID-Guy A quick follow-up. I stopped in to a Tudor AD yesterday, and they had the Ranger on a NATO strap. I tried it on, and as much as I thought it would be fantastic, it left me wanting. As you noted, the dial has too much open space. It’s almost as if the numerals and plots are pushed out to the edge too far. I am very grateful for you bringing this up in your video. Enjoy your Sunday.

[@johnnycastellanos6548]

Fantastic video. Would love if you had expanded on why the price is so good for this watch, but the content was already stellar.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you Johnny! I think considering all that you're getting, a properly milled clasp, in-house COSC movement (a pretty bulletproof watch all-round) and the fact that it now is more affordable than Tudors current BB36 / 41 lineup shows that they're wanting to inject more value into the pieces they offer. It's a helluva good thing for Tudor.

[@anthonysmith2982]

Hey @ID.Guy. This release has found me thinking more than any release for some time. I fear this will be a long comment, so first let me say thank-you. Whether the release had anything to do with you or not, you've been central to the collective hope of its re-issue. The specifics of the design is your bailiwick but suffice to say; you make very solid arguments resulting in an *extremely* solid re-design. Me? I'm stuck in disbelieve that we've seen the release of a new MN 'Sub' (well, Pelagos, but you know...), a Ranger re-issue *and* a Tudor 1655 'Explorer II' - all within 12 months! That's *everything* I wanted from the brand (I can take or leave the North Flag). I'm pinching myself! Gotta give credit to the Wilsdorf Foundation. They *really are* trying to address the inaccessibility and flipper conundrum. These are the closest things to an existential threat Rolex is likely to face in our lifetime! Nethertheless, I do believe they are motivated by more than self preservation, and I'm pretty cynical so I'm happy to feel this way. I did try to use provocative language when describing the recent releases though, because I strongly disagree with those of us who *deride* Tudor as a Rolex 'homage' brand. My current collection consists of vintage and mid level military/tool watches and homages/copies of the most desirable (and expensive) military and Rolex tool watches. So of course I'm happy that the brand is focusing on reissues and reinterpretations of the Tudor and Rolex back catalogue! But It's also merely an era appropriate and demand driven extension of Tudors traditional identity. We all like to celebrate Tudors return to form and we all recognise that Tudor had a sort of...golden age adjacent to Rolex's own golden age, yet some of us complain as Tudor follows the same formula that created the watches we've recognised as being great. I may be missing something, but I don't get it. But back to the topic at hand: this is a great, if imperfect release. Now let the gradual improvements begin. And for Gods sake, don't see 'Poor Man's Rolex' as a term of derision - consider it a source of pride. BTW : I'm almost convinced the *other* Tudor is a 2021 FXD. If not?, a two-tone Date-Day? 😊 Cheers mate, *great* upload. 🥃

[@ID-Guy]

Gotta give Tudor the credit it deserves. I definitely don't feel like it's a "rip off" of an Explorer (like I have been seeing - no idea where these people get this information) The Ranger is as original as it gets! And it's pretty amazing seeing how they're handling themselves. Man, a few more tweaks with this watch and it'll be a piece of art. They are so, so close! Thanks as always Anthony, it was a great read! And your assumptions may just be right about the piece that I picked up ;)

[@spicydragon3881]

Beautiful photography, editing and clear, calming narration, very, very well done. As someone with a 7 1/2 inch wrist I do not mind the 39mm size, but I do agree with you, (I understand they were looking to keep with the original design) the dial is a bit flat. I think it would have been a big improvement to at least offer a polished bezel and more raised numeral markers like the Explorer or North Flag as another, more modern option. I like it, but I am going to wait a bit and see if they offer, like they did with the BB58, some other iterations

[@dannyg6592]

I like your version much better. Tudor should hire you - seriously. As for me, I am going to wait for my 124270. I love 3-6-9 dials, but the negative space on 39mm Explorer style watches bothers me.

[@ID-Guy]

It's sad to say that a model like this pushes even me (who's been asking for this model since before 2019) further towards looking at a 124270. The complete opposite of what a Tudor should do haha! Good call Danny. You won't regret it brother.

[@JerseyLostRingMetalDetecting]

It's worth waiting for the 124270

[@derosa1989]

We see this same situation with a lot brands, and not just watches, where obviously outdated models are left in the range, that need significant design updates. It's sort of surprising really, that it takes brands so long to bring these models up to where they should be. It's like the brands don't understand the foundation of their brand hierarchy, if they did, they'd sort out all the fundamental design language, heritage, and functionality - It's like they get distracted by making the same models over and over in different variations, while neglecting significant potential in other parts of their catalog.

[@moneyishermotive6296]

Love the watch and especially your render of it, would also love it if tudor continued and experimented with the 3D ceramic lume plots like on the black bay pro, would look amazing in white

[@ID-Guy]

The idea of 3D applied ceramic plots on this dial would be unreal. Such a cool idea (here's hoping it materialises one day)

[@atreidis3946]

Thanks. Best video about the Ranger release so far.

[@ID-Guy]

Ah man, thank you! I love sharing these hot takes / writeups a few days after the watch launches.

[@anamisidro8453]

I love this watch. Just ordered one for myself. Love simple watches like the explorer, smiths, IWC. So happy that Tudor came up with this watch. Thanks for the video.

[@robcameron9351]

I have to disagree with your opinion on the size. I think 39mm is perfect, but other than that I agree with all your points.

[@ID-Guy]

I'm just too pedantic with my watch sizes (especially with these classically inspired models) but thank you Rob! ;)

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I’m very confident that Tudor saw your renders 👍🏼 thank you for another great video brother! BTW I love your rendering of this Ranger so much better 👏

[@ID-Guy]

Always a pleasure to share these brother (and it would be grand if I influenced Tudor somehow) ;)

[@lawrenceh7182]

Your render is spectacular, for me what they have done is fill a gap in the market with the 39mm and the faux lume, rather than make what would have actually looked better. It’s a tactical move that probably frustrated the designers. I feel like the value prospect is still really good, but when I tried one on over the weekend it just didn’t resonate with me.

[@ID-Guy]

It's horrible to say that this is the kind of machine that we wall all love (me included) but it ends up being so "flat" on the wrist. Ugh, it irks me Lawrence. Thanks for sharing!

[@jihanjittu3125]

I don’t care what people saying. I bought it 2 days ago and I like it very much, much more than my other Tudor…Harrods, BB58 and 79220N. I like it because simple and plain.

[@TheAmbitiousPeasant]

You are right. A day after its release, I got bored of the design right away. That negative space is disturbing, the fauxtina and the font of the numerals does not sit well with me. Also, is it just me or is that hour hand somewhat phallic looking? 😆. I like what you did with the design. I was discussing this with a friend that had they used the crystal, bezel and white, modern hour markers of the BB36, this would have been perfect (at least for me). Having said this, I also thought if they did this, it would look more so an "homage" of the Rolex Explorer I.

[@CrocodileJock]

I think this watch is almost perfect. I like the 39mm size - 38mm would have been better. I love the simplicity of the dial, but agree with the two lines of text - I did love the original smile text - maybe AUTOMATIC in a smile under RANGER? I also like the tip of the seconds hand dial being red. I've not seen the bracelet in the flesh yet, but heard nothing but good things. This, and the Professional are my favourite current releases. Still hoping from a Polar Professional - or maybe a Polar Ranger? I also really like your alternative render too!

[@ID-Guy]

There has been great suggestions that "Chronometer" under Ranger would be superb (love that idea) Ah, there are many things to love with this machine. I just wish they tweaked it in a few places... Also love the thought of a Polar Pro, we know it's going to happen one day ;)

[@SamrayGTR]

Don't give up on your hopes for the polar dial (or other potential color ways) for the Black Bay Pro. Tudor turns 100 in 2026 so bound to be incredible stuff shortly. 😎😉

[@WristHunt]

Just to share my opinion after wearing new tudor Ranger on wrist - It does not wear large. In fact, i find the 39mm explorer larger due to its rather flat structure and straight lugs. The tudor has a good height to length ratio. Something about that makes its wear like a 38mm. If you are a sarb035 owner, you will be happy to hear the size is relatively similar.

[@dvsmaverick]

I sold my 2014 Ranger because it was too big. This 39mm looks right up my alley, but I'm having 2nd thoughts because it still looks too large. I'll definitely buy it if it's less than 39mm.

[@ID-Guy]

The size is also a turn-off for me. Just way too much emphasis on the dial and it'll wear even bigger than other (larger) watches. I reckon it's almost guaranteed we'll see it in a smaller size (like 36mm one day - they discontinue the BB36 line and use the remaining cases) ;)

[@conorwhitworth5182]

Personally? The vintage 34mm is PERFECT. 34-36mm field watches are that size with good reason. Light, unobtrusive , unlikely to catch on clothing or equipment. Small crown also makes sense . The general feeding frenzy on a watch release. Let the dust settle and then we'll see.

[@SniperKing029]

The new Ranger seems awesome but I can’t justify picking this over the Explorer aside from I am sure this will be easier to get.

[@Thomas_Burnett]

The Ranger should never have been discontinued but, the 70th anniversary of the British Greenland Expedition now seems like an obvious marketing window for a rerelease and explains the discontinuation. It also gave Tudor a chance to resize the Watch to the size of the now discontinued 39mm Rolex Explorer. I really like the new Ranger. The omission of Tudors favoured rivets on the bracelet are much nicer and the clasp with its T-link system is a much welcomed upgrade. The omission of the ‘smiley text’ on the dial is also much cleaner. I think that this watch is still a great modern hark back to the look of a 1016 that people have been wanting despite other brands (Smiths Everest, Lorier Falcon, etc) doing that look as well. It will enable people to buy into a watch more closely related to the 1016 at a decent price from a luxury manufacturer. It may not be a roaring success but, I feel that it is something different from the usual Black Bays that we see from Tudor and think that it deserves success for that reason alone (as well as it being a great watch). Another great video as always my friend. ✊

[@ID-Guy]

It's great to see the return of this machine and you're right about the marketing surrounding it. All of the enthusiasts are rolling our eyes about the marketing... it's also a shame that they aren't giving any creds to the North Flag at all. Just goes to show that even the mightiest brands can still bring out watches that don't become overnight darlings ;) Hope you're well brother and thank you!

[@jb-hw9if]

Couldn't agree more 👍

[@my0.02cents]

Someone on reddit posted the hour hand looks like a but plug now I can't unsee it. Now I can't have this. I loved this watch.

[@ID-Guy]

Ah yes, the classic Buttplug handset. It's difficult to unsee. Look even harder and it could be mistaken for a wang hahaha! Still love the Ranger (I'd happily take this handset over Merc hands, but that's just me) ;)

[@Iuckylukey]

I wonder of it has the same new crown as the Pro? The way that crown unscrews and turns is really perfect.

[@ID-Guy]

Sadly it's using an earlier generation of the crown (the likes we'd see on BB58's and BB36's) I agree though, the BBP crown is such a dream. Great details to enjoy too with the added knurling ;)

[@frankpentangeli7945]

I would only either add one extra line of curved (smile) text at the bottom to fill in that negative space or slightly increase the size of the "RANGER" logo, move it up the dial a little bit and make it RED. Making the hands, numerals and markers white is probably a good idea too. It's just too boring right now.

[@ID-Guy]

Great thoughts on this Frank. I'd especially ditto the enlarging of the Ranger text. I had no idea the scale was so much smaller than the original (if we take all the proportions into account) Its a small tweak, but they they all matter ;)

[@btmontres1423]

Thanks for your always thoughtful reviews. I especially appreciate these deep dives into timepieces from watch houses that try to establish some link with their past, touching on a little adventure and romance. And when they go so far as to take note of comments from their community resizing cases, improving bracelets, changing to a much improved adjustable mass balance and balance bridge, and simplified dial layout, it’s almost as if they’re asking to enter a kind of social contract with us. Something akin to asking us to buy into their historical interpretation of ranger as it was then, so it is now their historical successor carrying Tudor DNA, becoming greater than the sum of its parts. All in exchange for them showing and proving to us that they listen to what we say, and are willing to do something about it. I don’t know how well this Tudor does this but I would love to see this faced off with what I consider its natural adversary, the Seamaster Railmaster. Some might not see them as comparable but they are both fieldwatch types, time only, have great movements but showcase at very different price points. Please consider this request. Best regards.

[@AlexMi77]

It’s just looking backwards. No design effort to make it future ready. Still, like the vintage vibe and appreciate they are trying to widen the offering and move a bit away from the Black Bay

[@Iuckylukey]

Thanks, I very much appreciated the historical overview, interesting to see there is no direct link to Greenland expedition despite the marketing 😀- my thoughts? I like it, I see it as another member of the BB58 collection, which is where Tudor’s creative focus seems to be nowadays. Probably the same case? It makes sense. It sits nicely between the hard-to-obtain and upscale Explorer 36, and the Sinn 556, which it surpasses by its sense of fun (the Sinn is so toolwatchy that it became boring like a wrench) and superior engineering (wonderful bracelet and clasp).

[@alvinmick218]

Thank goodness! Finally a clean dial! Tudor is becoming more responsive to the watch community. A 36mm or dare I say it, a 34mm size coupled with perhaps a different colored lume would elevate this really good watch to a really great one! That bracelet looks awesome as well. Do you think Tudor will continue to build upon or modify this model or is this a one and done venture??

[@ID-Guy]

The future could go both ways for the Ranger. They could just stick with this 39mm and if it does end up being a dud they won't advance the designs with smaller models (sadly) So it's hard to know brother... I'd love to see the Ranger succeed BUT it may only ever remain at 39mm :/

[@johnnyguitar6697]

Great video, as usual. Though as a former owner of an Explorer 39mm, I will have to disagree on your take that the thinner / brushed bezel will make the watch head look too large. My biggest beef with the Explorer 39mm, and the reason I eventually sold it, was the very wide / flat / shiny bezel that was flattening the watch and making it optically bigger than it was. Besides, the solid end link made the watch wear more like a 40.5mm watch than a true 39mm, which would not be the case with the Ranger's articulated first link. Also, I don't think the dial of the Ranger is going to look too wide, as the slanted / rounded edges of the crystal shrinks it visually. One area that concerns me though is the actual hue of the lume: I don't mind a cream / eggshell patina on such an obviously vintage inspired watch, but this might be too saturated. Obviously, all of the above need to be confirmed in person. I suspect I will either like it so much that I will buy it on the spot, or it might just underwhelm me a tad.

[@ID-Guy]

One of the best bezels that Rolex gave us was on the first gen of the 214270 and another domed variation on the 39mm OP. They had this "roundedness" that bent the light around the dial so nicely. And I'll agree, the flatness of the Gen.2 214270 bezel bugged me too... and that yellowy-green they went with... I don't know what happened in the final phases with this new Ranger. Thank you for sharing Johnny!

[@johnnyguitar6697]

@@ID-Guy The domed bezel of the OP 39 worked much better on that case than that of the 214270. It was far more compelling, adding relief and depth to the watch.

[@johnnyguitar6697]

@@ID-Guy I've actually now tried the Ranger, and wouldn't consider it. The disproportion between the watch head and the bracelet is even more marked than the Explorer 39, thanks to the very open dial, and the green - yellow lume isn't pleasant at all to my eyes. A swing an a miss (again) from Tudor, after the unnecessarily thick BB Pro.

[@MA89.]

Like the analysis on space on the dial, really good insight

[@edteach3r]

Add my vote that your iteration is so, SO much more striking! I often wonder how these watch companies get by without someone as astute as you clearly are. For comparison to the new release, I own the 41mm 79910 Heritage Ranger and I simply adore it (7.5” wrist). For me, the larger size is the perfect size for a field watch (if that is what it is actually used for, as I do). Yes, the 79910 wears large (think 43mm); but the polished edge and softer shape to the bezel shrink it visually. As you said, the dial is highly visible in all conditions and my watch takes a daily hammering in its stride. The ETA is easily, and cheaply, maintained and I love the way how it wears its “battle scars” proudly, making it even more adorable. I bought it highly discounted after being discontinued and it therefore does not bother me that it gets a fair amount of abuse. I switch straps frequently, depending on the weather, and that watch has so much character with its Tudor rose logo and smiley face! I will consider buying the 79950 in addition to my 79910 (or the Steinhart based on your design 😂) as this is my preferred style of watch; but I can foresee it being much more of a ‘desk fieldie’/formal watch rather than an actual tool watch. This is emphasized visually by the fact that it does not have drilled lugs. Thanks for another excellent video.

[@looplop]

Your Videos are impressive! Thanks for another good one, although for this particular model i'm with you as it's all over the place.

[@robertschmidt9584]

The Gun Show 👉💪👈 is back! This time you mean business! Great video and always enjoy your perspective. When are you going to do wrist shot week again?

[@kennethroll3683]

Really like the changes you suggested.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you Kenneth! This Ranger is SO close to perfection... so, so close!

[@havegregory]

I had been searching for the right Rolex, but I won’t play the AD and grey market games, so I’m done with Rolex and now I have my eyes on this new Ranger.

[@alienlife9832]

Another great review ( 2nd time watching it ) having tried this watch on I have to say everything you say about it is pretty much spot on it wears larger than my Royal 41 mm and the faux patina isn't to my liking........but on the wrist ( 7- 1/4 " ) it just works and looks way better than I ever thought, BTW heard you name checked on an American you tubers channel the other night and very positively too...... good on you mate 👍

[@theoneandonly7213]

I've got my own "Ranger" and it's called 556i :)

[@OneManReviews]

It is very true. I tried this watch and compared them with my BB41 side by side and the Ranger wears and feels bigger than 39mm. I think the 36mm version would be much better.

[@ID-Guy]

I have a strong feeling we'll see these eventually in 36mm (as the BB36 gets discontinued) It's too cool of a size man... and thank you brother!

[@OneManReviews]

@@ID-Guy I would really like to see a new Ranger in 36mm. I love your version of the Ranger and maybe Tudor will listen to you :) I also have feeling that Tudor will discontinue their BB 32/36/41 models. Since they have a similar model line with the in-house movement than currently in S&G.

[@ID-Guy]

@@OneManReviews It's clear that the phasing out of ETA's has begun ;) Ah, here's hoping they give us this model in 36mm... imagine?

[@OneManReviews]

@@ID-Guy I think you right about that. And I would be very happy about this model in 36m :) I have a list of watches from Tudor I wish to exist: - Tudor Royal Day Date in 38 mm. - Ranger in 36-37mm - Black Bay 31/36/39/41 S&G but Stainless Steel versions of them BB58 GMT Pepsi Pelagos models in 40mm I really hope to see any of those :)

[@Portland_Living_Life]

I really agree with your comment about the negative space on the dial. This was my biggest hang-up with the last generation. I've owned an Explorer 1016 for 20+ years and own the 39mm Explorer as well and I think those dials look great, but somehow the 41mm Ranger dial just didn't work. Unfortunately I see the same issue with this 39mm version.

[@ID-Guy]

A 1016 and a 39mm Explorer... what a dream. It's one of those never ending dreams on mind to one day own a Gilt Explorer of that time. You and I both know that this new Ranger is going to wear huge (I reckon even larger than the 39mm Rolex) ;)

[@davidbreckler5327]

I've watched 20 videos on this new Ranger and your analysis is the best in my opinion. I have the 41mm and I really like it but not as much as the 1957 Seamaster you convinced me to buy. Thanks for the great videos!

[@SamrayGTR]

I agree the new Ranger should be a little smaller at say 36mm or 37mm. It would be interesting if there were more lines in the chapter ring similar to the Sinn 104 ST. I can see later on we'll see white, grey, and navy dials of this new Ranger.

[@stebesplace]

I keep coming back to this critique, and wish it had the ceramic plots of the pro, numerals as well to give the dial something special.

[@pedromanuellopez142]

"Excellent reading material," for the ages! Here's a thought: how about a Polar version of this?

[@ID-Guy]

I should've sounded me sarcastic when reading that line ;) But man... smaller sizes and polar dial would be superb!!

[@Mark..P]

Excellent analysis and re-design. 👏👏👏🥃

[@anthonystevens8683]

Some really good thoughts IDGuy. I'll not pass judgment on this piece until I see one in the flesh but like you there are some aspects of this watch that I'd prefer changing. I'll not go off on a rant but my main suggestion to Tudor would have been to use the lume filled ceramic markers and numerals that look like little slices of cheese from the BB Pro on the dial just to give that tiny bit more depth. Given the asking price that may have been a little much but I'll certainly have a look at one at some point. I'm OK with the lack of text on the dial but would have appreciated the chronometer text below the Ranger text. I'm really nit picking here though so I guess the proof of the pudding will be the err.. seeing one at the AD.

[@ID-Guy]

All of what we do here is nitpick ;) But I agree with your points Anthony! Love the idea of the ceramic additions AND maybe we'll see it happen one day! Thanks as always for taking the time to watch the clips brother (love your takes on the subject)

[@anthonystevens8683]

@@ID-Guy No harm at all in constructive nit picking. Hopefully the manufacturers will read our little nuggets of useful information here on TY and just maybe feed them back to the brands marketing sausage machine and produce something even better in the future.

[@jeffdj1975]

You really need to design for a watch company! I’d but a watch designed by you any day.

[@ID-Guy]

So many have mentioned this in the comments Jeffrey. It would be a dream... I wonder if anyone would see these comments one day? And thank you man, it's so flattering!

[@looplop]

Love your Seamaster 1957! Thanks for your work!

[@MoldoonTube]

Well, if I wanted a modern, white-on-black watch with a hint of color and with great specs, I would’ve gone for the North Flag… oh wait, I did! :-)

[@ID-Guy]

Ah! That was a great call ;) Amazing to think that even today the North Flag supersedes these properties by being more creative and "out there".

[@evh4611]

I will get mine next monday. And i already own a Explorer I,.. how bout that

[@ThD040]

I would have loved the Oyster Prince in 34 to be returned. The Ranger is nice and I do like it. As you say it might be hard to pull off, small wrists. I would directly purchase the render you’ve made. Curious to see the next video and the Tudor you have picked up. I am still waiting for the Pro, hopefully i can pull that off. Enjoy your evening.

[@ID-Guy]

Appreciate it as always Theo. Sitting back last night and looking at those final renders I thought "Oh, why didn't they go with this" The answer is right there, clean type (like the rest of the dial) - Even though the BBP is more "homage-y" I think they did a far better job with it compared to the Ranger even though the Ranger is like 75% there... frustrating...

[@ThD040]

@@ID-Guy the ranger is good but could have been a home run.

[@michaeldowning1713]

BIG fan of the redesign! The red tip on the second hand kind of disappears against the black and leaves the rest of it looking a bit awkward. The yellow together with the white lume really changes the overall feel, and with that and a 37mm diameter, I’d be considering one of these. As it is.. probably not.

[@ID-Guy]

My thoughts exactly about the red Michael. It looks virtually black in all light (except direct light) - a touch of yellow or white would make it so eye-catching (easy to track for counting the seconds) Ah... we can dream that we'd see this ;)

[@BAF605]

Love it!! My order's in. I like your render too but I wish a watch similar to the white dialled Tudors of the expedition had been reissued. It's amazing how many people will tell you the Explorer climbed Everest and if the Ranger has a tenth of the success it deserves in future years people will be linking it with BNGE 52/54. Rolex are unlikely to issue anything like the Everest OPs again but I thought Tudor might have been braver.

[@trickyhippo2641]

Great video as usual. It's all subjective right? I think you're right on the bezel and maybe on the case size. But actually prefer the faux petina and red tip. As they say 'you can't win em all'. And I imagine this will tick enough boxes for enough people. Trying to be objective, it might not be perfect (for you or for me) but it's a damn nice piece, at a damn good price. Well done Tudor. Full disclosure: I bought one immediately on impulse. But haven't decided if I'll keep it. Need to sit with it a bit.

[@digitalentinc]

I did the same exact thing man, impulsively bought it yesterday and woke up today unsure whether to keep it or release it back into the wild.

[@cjammer18]

I agree and really appreciate this video - I did not realize 39mm is now considered “too big for most people” though

[@renaud_]

I would buy your interpretation in a heartbeat ! I like this new release, especially the brushed finish. I’m just not sure about the color of the markers and numbers…

[@ID-Guy]

I have no idea why or how they went with this colour for the lume. The more I've seen of it in direct light, the more green it looks. Imagine if they'd just kept it in white? I'd probably be going mad for it along with everyone else ;) Thank you Renaud!

[@renaud_]

@@ID-GuyI had "planned" to buy the 39mm Explorer because for me it's the perfect everyday watch. With Rolex reducing it to 36mm I would have been at the door of a Tudor AD the day of the announcement if they used white for the Ranger ! 🤣

[@nicholassmith1240]

I got my new Ranger a few mos ago and love it. I’ve owned 2 other Tudors and this one is by far my fav.

[@johanniklas]

If they would have made it like you suggest here I would be standing in line for it!

[@ID-Guy]

If the word "clean" had been used on the dial the same way that it was done with the case and bracelet it would be SUCH a winner! Ugh, it irks me man... thank you Johan ;)

[@watchchimp3102]

I liked your take on a polar dial Pro, but I like this too and will likely get one. I've got a medium sized wrist and 39mm will be ideal I think. Too big? Maybe, but the Heritage Ranger was 41mm, so . . . . Better! It'll all come down to the thickness really.

[@ID-Guy]

I think proportions of this piece will be great on the wrist if you can rock a 39mm. The new Ranger is definitely going in the right direction and it's SO close to being flawless!

[@domenickdenuzzio]

My first thought when I saw the new Ranger was "why does it not say 'certified chronometer' on the dial?". The space is there. I feel it was a missed opportunity, but easily remedied on the next edition.

[@LuisOrtizMBA]

After arguing for years that Tudor should cut back on dial text, they finally do it, and now you argue for MORE text? They just can't win on that front. 😒

[@ID-Guy]

After looking at it again I noticed that for some reason the size of the Ranger text is smaller than it should be on the dial. BUT that said, it's so good to see them using less text (for once) I don't think this will be repeated again ;)

[@russellseah2347]

I agree with you Luis! Just cant please many people.

[@rohanjangam511]

This was a welcome surprise. Super exciting indeed. Crazy how you got what you least expected.I agree the dial looks a little too empty. The rose logo would have been great. I think I still like the north flag more though!

[@Time_and_time_again]

I’d buy your version in a heartbeat!

[@ID-Guy]

Ah, means a lot brother. Thank you!

[@MasterChief37]

I like it, I wish it was bigger, 41 or 42mm would have been better, also really happy the faux rivets in the bracelet are gone, hope this flows through to the Black Bay.

[@RedwoodAggie]

I like the polished bezel and white lume better on yours, but would stick with the red tipped seconds hand. I would be okay with going down to 38, but no smaller. I don't really have an issue with the 39mm, nor the negative space. It looks perfectly fine to my eye. I was surprised to see they were not touting the COSC certification on the dial though.

[@ID-Guy]

Some great suggestions have been offered that adding "chronometer" under the Ranger text would clean it up and I reckon they're spot on. 2x2 lines of text on the dial and all that beautiful symmetry! Great shout Sean

[@tuckshop]

Just made me appreciate the design of that Omega Seamaster even more ❤️

[@ID-Guy]

It was a terrible and unfair example to use haha! It is something else though... Goes to show that you don't need a collection of watches to get enjoyment out of our hobby ;)

[@13siniestro80]

I'm happy for the rebirth of the Ranger (maybe the North Flag will be next rebirth) I agree that the dial is too flat with printed indexes. Since they've used the ceramic filled indexes on the BB Pro, it would be a nice way to use it on the new Ranger without taking away the vintage style. As always a nice video and watching you from Guatemala, Central America.

[@ID-Guy]

Central America! Fantastic to have you Siniestro. Great call on the ceramic indices (others have pointed this out too) They would add Three Dimensionality and give the dial a warmer look!

[@137Furon]

The Watch looks good, I just wish they had two models, the 39mm and a 34mm, because as you said this will definitely wear larger than its specs indicate.

[@ID-Guy]

Seeing this in a smaller size would make SUCH a difference, you're right. I reckon it's only a matter of time for them to bring out smaller sizes (using the BB36 case etc.)

[@nickdebenedetto2087]

As a designer, what are you thoughts on having some redundancy or overlap in a collection? If one already owns an Explorer, is there an argument to add a Ranger as well beyond the fact that it is a less expensive watch that you won’t feel as inclined to baby?

[@ID-Guy]

Great question Nick. If it was me I'd never see the two watches the "same" if that makes sense. The Explorer would always be my first option to wear (because life is short) and with the cash I'd spend on the Ranger, I'd probably look elsewhere to Longines (far more unique designs - AND a great GMT they just dropped as a fun alternative) I'd definitely let the Explorer speak for itself in the collection.

[@nickdebenedetto2087]

@@ID-Guy Thanks! I appreciate your perspective.

[@blacktalon7030]

I haven’t given up hope on a re-release of the Tudor Submariner

[@johnmonachelli5256]

Tudor need to seriously consult you on the next revamp. Well done

[@ID-Guy]

This is heartwarming John. Thank you brother

[@MartinGarthwaite]

As watch collectors or at least people that know about watches I think you miss a very important point. Someone buying their first Tudor will perhaps not know anything of their history so the Ranger is their first major purchase in watches. The specification is amazing, again they do not really care. It has a great bracelet, T-Fit extension. At £2420 this watch makes no sense at this price given the specification, it should be a third more! The Ranger is simply amazing and then there is the price! It is light compared to the pro, it feels like a sub, but you are right it wears a lot bigger than it actually is!