id Software Accused Of Lies & Abuse By Doom Eternal Composer Mick Gordon

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[@YongYea]

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[@phillynation2906]

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[@oriongear2499]

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[@QuestionMarking]

Oh boy...this outta be a good one.

[@anthonygomez8339]

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[@Press_START360]

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[@infernokid450]

All of this happened because Mick criticized Marty's schedule. Marty's ego got bruised and he decided to make Mick's life a living hell and destroy his reputation. Disgusting.

[@gagejohnathan9641]

Yet now we've got Mick working on Games like Routine and Atomic heart

[@infernokid450]

@@gagejohnathan9641 Glad to hear he's still getting work. I've heard of Atomic Heart. I'll keep it on my radar.

[@SleepyMatt-zzz]

Yep, and apparently Marty also tried to jeopardize Mick's career because Marty was afraid that Mick was going to leave the company. That ended up being a self fulfilling prophecy.

[@Christopher-md7tf]

That's what happens when managers with no actual knowledge of the subject matter try to dictate schedules, it just doesn't work. Same thing with the OST, Marty clearly thought that they don't even need Mick to do it. "I mean, surely re-arranging a few parts into an OST can't be so hard, right? And we've already got all the tracks, so why pay Mick a lot of money for that when we can just have our own sound designer do it?" And look how that turned out lol. I've literally never seen waveforms like that in a professionally released product in my entire life.

[@notaninconspicuoususername6065]

I sincerely doubt that; bad management doesn't start with employees doing their job. Stratton was terrible well before that and I believe Mick criticizing the schedule had little to nothing to do with his treatment.

[@Norrikan]

90's: _"Man, wouldn't it be awesome if video games were as big and important as movies?"_ now: _"Fuck, go back! _*_Go back!"_*

[@ap0kalyps3]

this sums it up soooo good... our favorite media has gone full capitalism mode, no love in AAA games anymore, sometimes we get something good like God of War, but most of the times our favorite franchises are ruined by Corpo Greed and the need to earn as much money as possible... instead of letting this inherently creative media be CREATIVE

[@TheThreeDGrasshopper]

That's a pretty underrated comment indeed

[@DantesInferno96]

This is basically what it has become

[@DrownedInExile]

"Now" Unfortunately I think the games industry has always been like this. Even back in the 90s I was hearing stories about sweatshop labour conditions. The only difference now is it's more public. But still no accountability.

[@ap0kalyps3]

@@DrownedInExile I think accountability would go a long way today but I would also prefer to at least minimize the influence of corporate entities into the developement of games at least for me it seems like alot of stuff is decided over the top of developers heads mostly stuff that would make the fans happy, is thrown out because of monetary reasons it seems

[@Sparksterchan]

So Marty didn't want his reputation tarnished, but had absolutely no problem destroying Mick's rep to save his own. Wonderful leadership. I'm on the outside looking in here, haven't played Doom Eternal but have heard music from it, and I appreciate this deep dive you've done on this whole thing. Hopefully Mick can finally be made whole in all this. It's bullshit and my blood boils for him.

[@JustinAEvans]

Good thing is Marty's rep is pretty much fucked now lol

[@adad87821]

he sounds like such a wonderful human being totailly not a peace of garbage whatsoever

[@DPoddy]

@@JustinAEvans that's a fucking shame. He could have made that joint statement with Mick and took a small bit of responsibility without actually laying it all bare. He could have saved face, and now it's all out in the open and everyone sees what a shithead he actually is.

[@Bibi_Dude]

@@JustinAEvans and that's what happens when you mess with the guy who makes the music

[@ReticularTunic7]

@@JustinAEvans doubt

[@zaz6463]

That paragraph you didn't read aloud is appalling... to go through all he went through and get these threats would be unbearable emotionally and physically. The mistreatment here is nothing short of criminal, and assuming this is the truth - Marty (and associated parties) deserves to be fired immediately and put in prison for defamation, harrasment, among other clear injustices. The idea that Marty and his lawyers even attempt to refuse to take down the reddit post because it would cause harm to his reputation makes my blood boil.

[@JoshuaGraves113]

And what did bethesda do? "We stand by Marty and co.. " I will never, EVER support them.

[@noahjester8471]

Fuck Bethesda. They don't bug test, they don't respect their customers, and apparently, they don't respect their employees and contractors. Maybe if clowns like Stratton and Howard weren't the ones running the show, something would come out in a decent manner.

[@709mash]

@@nunab1864 you're 100% right, but I honestly wonder if Microsoft can clean up shop with this revelation. It would be nice, but I'm not really holding my breath. We should vote with our wallets until change happens.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

I love the proof he posted, eviscerating their lies. They are not getting away with this scam.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Wrong word you mean misconduct not a scam

[@Corthmic]

@@gameuniverse5973 Nah they scammed the hell out of Mick

[@Xport9]

@@gameuniverse5973 Imagine working for a company, and refuses them and not pay them for over 11 months. It's a scam.

[@HanDaimond]

I just want to see Marty fired at this point.

[@ZakhariusSilpheed]

@@gameuniverse5973 Yup, the real scam was Zenimax's (Id software's parent company) price for Microsoft to purchase them.

[@Cujo5]

With how detailed the response was, and that it took 2 years for Mick to produce it: Never fuck with a perfectionist!

[@TheDwagonHD]

Think some of it is also because of NDA aswell.

[@bluelobster246]

EXACTLY.

[@kendarr]

@@TheDwagonHD not really, he was trying to fix it privately with lawyers and shit, but it came to a halt in the last 2 years, no nda since the game is out already

[@TheDwagonHD]

@@kendarr you do know that NDAs dont always release right at the launch of the product? What if he saw stuff that would later be used for dlc? Usualy NDAs have a graceperiod. Just dont confuse it with review embargos/ndas.

[@JacobSantosDev]

@@TheDwagonHD you both could be right but I think Victor is more right based on what I heard. It is generally a bad idea to talk publicly when you are trying to settle. Smart choice up to when it all crashed down.

[@Dachief54]

Bethesda probably has a team of lawyers keeping Marty strapped to a chair to stop him from going on the internet and implicating himself in a burst of narcissistic rage.

[@snakeeater6738]

Amazing how Mick went through all this yet provided an insanely well done soundtrack. Proves he’s a truly talented and passionate artist.

[@GeorgeChacon2112]

And loved the IP and its fans

[@SolusAgomor]

Both "thiss"!

[@dariusus9870]

It's generic trash but obviously kids love that sht

[@Merinzify]

you are the generic trash...

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

⁠@@dariusus9870you still have time to delete this.

[@jackhealy3328]

What happened to Mick Gordon was horrific and he deserves justice, but we should also see this as an opportunity to lift the veil on internal game development and publishing as a whole to see just who else has been screwed over like Mick was.

[@gameuniverse5973]

I doubt it since it was back in 2019 this claims just now were getting more info

[@jamesduncan6729]

Justice for what, some dude talking shit? This is just some highschool level drama... Not that big of a deal tbh

[@Erick-tv8oq]

@@jamesduncan6729 Are you really that unaware?

[@canyouwavedash3298]

@@jamesduncan6729 Bethesda Cuck Found

[@mavisgrace5403]

Go ahead and make a difference. I'm too busy working on my own thing.

[@Jombo1]

Thankfully he is able to go public with this because his reputation. I imagine there are plenty other artists and devs out there getting screwed by the industry all the time. We need more stories like this.

[@90koskenkorva]

I agree with you..

[@davesiddons8921]

Micks constant effort to try and salvage the project is a testament to his professionalism, a proper artist. Hope he gets the compensation he’s deserves

[@livingcorpse5664]

The worst part is the random assholes who doxxed and threatened him will never get punished. And they will do this again for the next incident like this.

[@sussygussy5457]

If only there was a way to find them so we could name and shame them, no doubt those people would do the same thing again so we give them a taste of their own medicine

[@adad87821]

right?i just love the human race

[@pcppbadminton]

Yep. Gutless wonders. Half of them will probably never see Mick's rebuttal, the other half won't care.

[@joshuayung5158]

Don't worry, sooner or later, after 4 or 5 misses, the gamers will attack fhe actual culprit and all the people they doxed and harassed along the way can sleep easy knowing that justice has finally been served.

[@miirico5398]

Wow an hour coverage of Yong for Mick Gordon, such a fucking blessing.

[@jamesduncan6729]

You could almost say the video is... over an hour Yong... 😎💥

[@gameuniverse5973]

I like how people though yong won't do a video on this but yet it is one of the longest videos he ever done

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

@@gameuniverse5973 I was one of those people who thought that. I really didn’t want this controversy to be forgotten. Thank god for this hour long video.

[@DummyAccount]

I know right? at what point can this be considered ASMR? 🤭

[@noahedlen8053]

It's such a blessing you could say it was [Made in Heaven]

[@dony2852]

I was suspicious of Marty's burial of Mick from the start but Mick's rebuttal was far more horrifying than I imagined. Even before, hearing that Marty didn't start negotiations on a contract with Mick until January even though he announced the OST bundle at E3 in the summer had me thinking Marty had ulterior motives. Marty having Chad Mossholder work on the OST at supposedly the last minute did not jive with the raw number of tracks that he edited. When it ended up twice the length of 2016, it made me think Marty was asking for the impossible even with his implied January start of Mick's contract, much less the actual March finalization reported by Mick.

[@bucherregaldomi9084]

Sadly it's now the stories of the Doo Maternal.

[@directororsoncallankrennic3531]

Doo: Maternal

[@Anthologic]

Mr. Bill, a prominent artist in the electronic music scene and all around insanely knowledgeable producer who’s given master classes on working in DAWs (digital audio workstations) did a podcast with Mick. Just 5 minutes of listening to that episode will tell you all you need to know. Mick is nothing but professional. He is a kind hearted human being and he has a ridiculous amount of knowledge and attention to detail in his craft. I’m sure Id’s lead audio designer is well worthy of the title but Mick has shown time and again just how proficient he is and how he wouldn’t let a mistake like that happen.

[@oldspice051]

Makes sense. I've seen Mick post comments on KZbin covers of his work for Doom and Killer Instinct, and he was always very chill about it. Usually he'd just compliment their work.

[@mkuhnactual]

@@oldspice051 Real artists be like that.

[@aivreescend7945]

Also an Audio Designer can't be really placed together with a composer so it might not be because Chad is incompetent i think it was simply because it's not his area of expertise in the first place. He might also got forced to mix that tracks as an additional work on top of his own and doing it just in bare minimum.

[@darkshadowlord]

@@aivreescend7945 At first I was not willing to extend forgiveness to Chad, but then I remembered he is also working with Marty... then I started feeling sorry for him too.

[@StudlyFudd13]

@@darkshadowlord Yeah Honestly I think Chad is probably regretting getting in the middle of this disaster. I don't think of him as the villain at all.

[@watsonwrote]

This is deeply sad. I wonder how many untold stories like this stand behind the games we play.

[@Pyxis10]

Alot more is my bet.

[@gregkosher2648]

I'm willing to bet there's a lot Its on 2020 remember? A year where the gaming industries were falling apart because of so many games out there that were ended up being in a total clusterfuck

[@domm6812]

Bethesda/Zenimax is famous for screwing devs over and ruining studios. They've been doing it for so many years, but most people are still unaware.

[@ultimateloser3411]

Not just on games. Imagine everything we buy and wherr they might come from. Just thinking about that leaves me digusted everyday

[@kingjoe3rd]

I wonder how many are actually true. Remember Bayonetta 3?

[@Turian_Hustle]

I can see why Mick denied the 6 figure settlement, and not just because the truth needs to be out, but so he can trash Marty’s career and reputation like he did to him.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Mick knows he can get more jobs but he won't let Marty get away Scott free

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

More like Marty's post literally destroyed Mick's career, a six figure pay won't last if no one will hire you because of that bullshit reddit post

[@elevown]

I agree- I'd hate Marty so much I'd rather take him down than take 6 figures if i was Mike lol. And also for the good of his own rep ofcourse.

[@darkhaven9119]

Nah that was dumb asf. Should of taken the settlement. Who tf turns down over 100k? Smh it was stupid plain and simple. He could of taken the money and still ruined the guy’s reputation and got his revenger after

[@TheCactuar124]

@@darkhaven9119 You gonna call Hideo Kojima dumb af too for constantly declining ridiculously high offers to buy his studio?

[@sonicblitz1884]

I hope he sues for defamation. The fact that his life got fucked over because of one asshole had a bruised ego, he deserves justice and the guys in charge need to be help accountable.

[@ChillyJack]

Unfortunately he waited too long if he was going to sue. Defamation has a 1 year statute of limitations in most states, including the states id Software and Zenimax are based. His only recourse now is to scorch them in the court of public opinion, which seems to be working so far. Unfortunately gamers as a group never actually maintain any boycotts and will go right back to the scumbag company when their next big game comes out.

[@ThePumpkinRot]

@@ChillyJack you're confusing gamers with normies. Gamers have a long memory, normies consume content get bored and then excited the iphone 23.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Defamation, assault, violation of contract, criminal negligence. Throw the book at him, jail time and being forced to pay his savings in damages is exactly what his kind deserve. Oh and being blocked from any job above minimum wage hence forth, not so funny when actions have consequences

[@JohnSmith-kq9it]

@@ChillyJack Mick Gordan isn't from the US

[@Xport9]

@@ChillyJack That's pretty much how it works. Look at Blizzard, lots of shit, yet people still come back. Like wtf.

[@trvkv]

Marty is a real-life example of a psychopath. Holy shit, what a story.

[@DatOneCat]

One of many sadly.

[@rusydirahim5893]

A truly evil manipulative person.

[@johnnyzero8853]

What a story, Mark

[@yutro213]

I noticed this since that Open Letter on Reddit. He never apologized once, after all, customers were frustrated by the subpar product the OST album was and he is a representative of the provider; shifted all the blame on Mick Gordon even though MartyScum was his leader himself and should have controlled tightly or replaced Mick ASAP if he had been such a liability (Mick wasn't) in such short deadline; was extremely anti-ethical to expose publicly sordid business of a failed business relationship, accurate or not; on top of that, never promised to the public (customers, a detached term MartyScum used many times throughout his letter) to do better, never promised a fix to that OST Album, and to this day and beyond the official OST remains that mess. All that MartyScum did was a tremendous effort to convince the consumers the shitty product he sold to them was at fault of the manufacturer then nothing should be done about it; normally such ploy should be seen as very preposterous and insulting. But it worked... until now. I always saw MartyScum as a misfit guy that had several issues to communicate in Public and clearly trained a lot todo a decent job at Communication. I think now everybody sees it's worse than that.

[@japanesecar1501]

Marty is definitely not a psychopath, he has a different problem, he may be the least gifted person in Id, yet he is their head. He's firmly viced via corporate mindset, he has the least pull and headspace to care in a way you'd expect from a guy who enjoys with the people he "works with", as he is riding a wave of conformism, "good for the company-ism". He was by momentum trying to preserve a way of interests, that let him get up so high. He definitely knew that, partially for sure. Trying to be worthy, be a good feel guy, yet it wasn't right. He is Zenimax's guy to "speak sense" into Id. He is their prized "CEO of no questions asked" , "what we say brings money" , as he does not have the merit and talent to be a leader, he is the soft liked guy, with impostor syndrome, to whom corps blow up the ass a bit, and he keeps doing what the "consensus" and "practice" is. He doesn't have quality reach into the creative process on the same note as the devs, and "the best he could do" is watching out for the company's financial interests, to which he did have a skewed, almost under sandal like, obedient, respect, due to his feelings of inadequacy, "as a dev", to betray the chances he got, by the "suits trusting him" to betray by not performing well enough. You know, he knows, he could be glad to be there, and for the most part, he was in disbelief, the guy just never had the head to navigate it all, in the circumstances, he was not the man who could push with Id, at the position of power he was in. You can tell he always played second fiddle, to anyone with him. Marty got lost in what's good and bad, he wasn't the firestarter for his own benefit at the base, or for a do or die, all else be damned, view of things.

[@JR_Warlock]

I wanted to work in the gaming industry. I finished college with a degree in computer science to pursue being a programmer in the gaming industry. I couldn't make it because I wasn't good enough. Hearing stories like this makes me think that maybe I dodged a bullet. Crazy how people working their hearts out on these games are treated less than human. It happens way too often. Imagine the people who don't speak up. Things have to get better.

[@TroublezAhead00]

If you don't mind me asking, why were you not considered good enough?

[@JR_Warlock]

@@TroublezAhead00 I failed all my interviews related to game development. This went on for nearly 2 years after I graduated college, so I eventually gave it up. Along with other personal life stuff at the time, I just couldn't commit myself to continue.

[@domino6490]

I wanted to make games too when college sucked the fun out of programming through the pandemic. I feel you man

[@JR_Warlock]

@@domino6490 I can understand that. I went through it before the pandemic. Can't imagine how it was during.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

problem is with game development, you spend all that time getting a degree and game developers are ridiculously under paid. Time crunches, heart and soul all for a up to 30-50 grand a year 50 being generous, mean while the publishers get all the money and CEOs get millions in bonuses for being greedy cunts by composing strategies that takes money from the developers and the consumers to fill their own pockets. Id love to be a developer however personally i think its one of the biggest misleading industries.

[@RAIN_WAKE_UP]

Being in the music industry I can certainly say this abuse isn't standard but it isn't uncommon either. Mick is a bigger name who got treated this way so imagine someone way smaller who has barely a name or voice in the industry whatsoever. So gnarly.

[@LunaSolarysAD]

If you even sneeze wrong your name can get pulled from the credits. There are so many ways that managers get away with regular abuse for people who challenge their Pure Holy Vision™.

[@Marinealver]

Same with Marty. I mean O'Donnell, not Stratton. The Talented Marty not the Scummy Marty.

[@FALLEN_CERBERUS]

It’s so fucked up how companies do this, as someone who aspires to start their own game studio I want to make absolutely sure that disgusting shit like this never happens to anyone from the highest of directors down to the damn janitors.

[@erickenneycreative]

Sweet!!! More !OUTRAGE! content by the Sean Hannity of Gaming News!! Awesome!!

[@Bibi_Dude]

Companies messing with the music guy should be illegal

[@RdTrler]

It doesn't matter which side you're on, Marty Stratton has the authority and clearance to write out a *$100,000+ check to whomever he deems necessary.* That's not a job responsibility. That's a tyrant's favorite power.

[@MorfsPrower]

There's always a bigger fish with a more insatiable hunger

[@EskChan19]

That is quite literally his job responsibility. That's practically the definition of his job responsibility. I get it, we're all on a witch hunt right now but let's at least try to keep to the facts shall we?

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

Yeah. So go after him, not the devs.

[@seanziethen1032]

Another proof that people in high positions are not as smart as they seem to be: They just have a bloated ego. If he´d given Mick the money in the first place NONE of that would have happened.

[@Aereto]

​@@EskChan19 Responsibility means obligation to face consequences and the severity for dereliction of duty.

[@janjokinenmusic]

"This is not one of those stories we can just let fade away" Well said! As a composer I hope that this will ignite a spark that brings positive change. Great coverage as always Yong😊

[@Lazyboijere]

They had the audacity to treat Mick like this after making some of the best ost's ever.

[@giftheck]

The funniest thing about all this now is, if he'd just accepted the post being taken down, Stratton could have just sailed by. Instead, what he's done has directly lead to it being reinstated, and that reinstatement now enabled the reddit mods to slap it with a 'potentially misleading' tag following Mick Gordon's statement. That's up there, for all to see. Well done, Stratty-boy, you played yourself.

[@mateuszzielinski2166]

Sharty Stratton

[@Aereto]

Now there's a lot of fixing to do.

[@Marinealver]

He silenced M. Gordon for over 2 years. He had plenty of time to reap the benefits got a promotion or 2 and this small bit of outrage means this Marty (not the talented one) got off scotch free.

[@chanr9531]

Man’s ego is off the charts. Like how can you claim to be a leader but not take any responsibility? Removing the post was the easiest way moving forward after he’s already fucked up a dozen times, but no I guess he thought he was too big to fail.

[@Marinealver]

@@chanr9531 Rules of Power: Assume all Credit, Assign all Blame.

[@inanimatesum4945]

The hurdles Marty did to not pay him was deplorable. Almost a year without pay.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

@@Lunk42 That and Zenimax's lawyers should be fired for playing along to Marty's tantrum and doing jack shit to protect their actual client. They were dogshit at protecting Marty, too. Mick outright has them on fucking fraud and they've apparently done nothing but tell their idiot client to shut him up and issue stall tactics while doing nothing to defuse the time bomb. They are now fully open to a class action as anyone who bought the Collector's Edition under the assumption that Mick created it was indeed outright scammed. This is WAY worse than bad PR. They should have been bending over backwards to appease the contractor with hugely damaging evidence against them and basically told Marty to take it like a big boy or the company will be on the receiving end of a class action.

[@wishchaos2874]

I always knew that Mick Gordon would never intentionally undermine his work as a composer, based on his work with Doom 2016 & the first 2 seasons of Killer Instinct. His work and quality, even in a tight time demand are of impeccable quality. It just never seemed like him to do that. I'm glad this is being shown in the public eye. Hopefully he can recover from this better than ever.

[@liesandy291]

yea after the stellar previous work i find it really strange for it to suddenly drop in quality, and chad had the nerves to list himself as co-artist when he is just mastering ffs that's career ending moves.

[@DEAD-DROP]

As a producer who very recently had to get commissioned music removed due to lack of payment, this is scary to see. Even on the high end like this, working with big names... The artist always gets taken advantage of and screwed over. Seeing Mick's words about never working without a contract, this is the very same lesson I learnt recently. Appreciate you taking the time to cover this Yong! Was very insightful for someone like myself.

[@luk4aaaa]

managers like Marty need to be held accountable, generally the whole gaming industry needs to hold it's managers way more accountable than they do now. bad games are made because of poor management, not bad programmers 99.99% of the time.

[@joeykeilholz925]

Never happens. Rules exist for the lower class only and it's by design.

[@luk4aaaa]

@@joeykeilholz925 yeah sadly so, though I live in Norway and there's definetly more accountability here than in the US, it's still not the same for all sadly.

[@plaguedoctorYT47]

100%

[@HH-hd7nd]

Luka Unfortunately that's not limited to the gaming industry. It's the same in every industry imaginable.

[@Beinomat]

@@HH-hd7nd True, but the gaming industry makes it most obvious that these people in 'leading' positions have no damn clue about what product they are actually producing. Only thing they care about is making more money until the next fiscal year...

[@phlemington]

One thing I wonder is how many people that gave Mick Gordon a lot of shit after the open letter are praising him and "supporting" him now. I especially remember on YongYea's open letter vid, how many people were giving Mick shit and patting idsoft on the back.

[@Nikki_the_G]

Me and Pepperidge Farms, remember.

[@HH-hd7nd]

It would be nice to see these people now showing some integrity and character themselves and openly stating their apologies, even if it is only in a KZbin comment section or somewhere answering a Reddit post.

[@marauder_gaming]

scroll down on Marty's post and you'll see a looooot of deleted comments lmao

[@MorfsPrower]

You're asking a bunch of egotistical and clueless humans which avoid responsibility and feign ignorance to apologize for siding with a corporation against a victim? Naaah even if they did it'd mean nothing. The vast majority don't actually critically think about anything outside of dinner and the next party they have planned. I don't expect people to be good like that, sorry. People will always flip flop because their brains can't parse the truth. I hope you've come to the realization I'm talking about Twatter still. No accountability in that cesspool.

[@emiloguechoons9030]

Yep, there's a certain section of gamers who froth at the mouth for any chance to take part in vitriolic attacks and abuse, Mick's details of harassment from those types of people really puts that into perspective, some people really need to get a damn life, what disgusts me is how many social media platforms reward that type of behaviour, be it reddit karma or KZbin likes, it essentially gamifies being a horrible human being.

[@Mordakai]

I said months ago on YongYea's video covering ID's Open Letter that the entirety of the Open Letter was full of subtle and obvious signs that the letter was clearly written to be a PR stunt, intended to shift the blame across to Mick Gordon. When I outlined all of this in the comments section, the amount of people who decided to "ignore" those factors that turned around and criticised me for openly analysing the letter methodically for these issues with it effectively silenced any fair discussion of what really happened. I even said that it looked like ID were doing this on purpose, quoting sections of the Open Letter that were extremely suspicious. I said that ID were not telling us the full story. And yet, here we are, with undeniable proof that the people calling out ID's Open Letter for being a PR stunt were correct in doing so. If anything, we should walk away with the consideration that when any company posts an open letter to the community, that we should carefully and fully examine such material for suspicious or incorrect information that contradicts established facts.

[@aivreescend7945]

I do feel like there's something off with the letter but decided it might be just my imagination and caved to the masses in the end. The same thing i felt when i saw Hellena's video that i felt something's not right but just can't put it. I need to carefully see something to be more objective i think and i do want to apologize to Mick for thinking he's somewhat irresponsible for allegedly leaving his works unfinished. As an artist i should know that an artist's work are their pride and joy. I should've known and side with Mick but hell, i caved

[@Mordakai]

@@aivreescend7945 I don't blame people for caving mate, it's easy enough to do. But I do hold people accountable for being hostile and shutting down fair discussion based on a conclusion derived from a source which can be shown to be untrustworthy, which is where a lot of my anger and frustration on this topic came from. I'm just glad that the people who were calling out ID's Open Letter can now do so with their alternative source as opposed to deriving from analysing a bad source.

[@tiimhotep]

I feel like this just needs to be extended to anyone saying anything without proof. Look what happened with the bayonetta voice actress situation as well. Someone says something, the entire community “reacts” before we’ve heard both sides of the story and any solid proof is presented. I think we could all do a better job of making it more clear that a lot of situations like these are messy and until we’ve heard both sides nobody should assume the first one telling their side of the story is telling the truth.

[@Mordakai]

@@tiimhotep Correct!

[@AzureKyle]

@@tiimhotep Exactly. Same thing happened with both Vic Mignonia and Johnny Depp. They were accused of crimes they did not commit with no proof, and people rallied against them. Then when they came out with the truth and evidence, most reasonable people came over to their side and support, but so many others still to this day refuse to accept the truth and still treat them like criminals, when they're really the victims.

[@Pokemonboy245]

Even with all these issues that were actually limiting his creative abilities, he still managed to make such a dope soundtrack that HITS at the gym

[@randomguy6679]

Just shows how great he is

[@acidsugarz]

This is disgusting. Composing music is hard- musicians pour their heart into their work, it's a passion through and through. A legend like Mick not only be treated like garbage but have his reputation nearly tarnished means less developers hire him which means less of his dope music. I love DOOM but damn its time Marty feels what he felt. I really hope something significant transpires from this.

[@DragonHeart613]

If Phil Spencer has any integrity, he needs to hold Marty Stratton accountable for his vile unethical actions & punish him for all the hell he put Mick Gordon thru. Mick is one of the best dam game music makers on the biz today. His music helped make Doom 2016 & Doom: Eternal into the blockbusters that they both are.

[@Zynet_Eseled]

​@@DragonHeart613 I got a feeling marty is gonna be asked to step down from leadership at id software. And if he says no, Phil will be like "alright. You had your warning. You're fired. And do not come back here ever again

[@DragonHeart613]

@@Zynet_Eseled Hope so.

[@slamdangles]

At the same time people like Mick need to recognize when a deal has gone sour and back out. Mick worked for 11 months without payment? Who the fuck does that?!!?!?!!?!??

[@Zynet_Eseled]

@@slamdangles someone who actually cares about what they do

[@hoshi-15]

This could’ve all been settled quietly, Marty could’ve just held his tongue and this would’ve been Mick just stating he didn’t mix those, someone else took over and the ost was subpar. Marty just had to get aggressive and try to sabotage Mick’s life. Nothing ever stays quiet nowadays, you fuck around and find out

[@siromnoms]

Ego is a powerful thing.

[@LicoriceLain]

And now Marty could potentially lose his position.

[@domm6812]

People like Marty are used to getting things their way all the time though. They'll go to great lengths and ruin people just to make sure that doesn't change, and that nobody challenges their authority.

[@SomeKindaSpy]

@@domm6812 It's familiar, honestly. It sounds like most managers I've had the mispleasure of working under. Doesn't matter the field or the job. (at least in America)

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

He knows he fucked up when he offered six-figure hush money when he spent a whole year squeezing dimes out of him.

[@dragodragon6184]

I remember I was playing Eternal and my dad walked in and said something along the lines of “Man, I hope they paid their sound guy well.” If only, dad… if only

[@Haydos420]

Micks music is peak perfection in my eyes. I've literally been listening to Micks DOOM 2016 sound track since it came out every day and listen to like 3 from DOOM eternal. Anything becomes instantly amazing while listening to it. Washing dishes? Bashing demons skulls in a blood bath. Yard work? Rip and tear, until it is done. And my personal absolute peak use for DOOM OST? WORKING OUT, THE ONLY THING THEY FEAR IS YOU!!!! Micks music literally makes you feel like a GOD with unlimited potential and motivates me daily. I can say without a doubt, Micks OST has brought so much joy and love its saved my life from spiralling out from my mental illnesses. Probably wont ever see this, but Mick my man, thank you, thank you for everything you've done to my life and countless others, we love you mate!!!

[@davoap1268]

This is disgusting, I never thought that Marty would be so low to make Mick's life hell as possible and take advantage of him in a heartless manner. Marty is a bad guy.

[@SomeKindaSpy]

Idk Marty always seemed a bit shady.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Marty is a Criminal, no if ands or buts, jail time, sued for damages, blackballed from the whole industry is the only fair fate for him and his fellow abusive upper management staff

[@gondorianslayer4250]

@@UNSCPILOT chill

[@bahamutaxiomx8706]

God, this sounds horribly close to a nightmare job I had recently that's done a real number on me. Gives me horrible flash backs. This is worse than my experience as it's on a much higher scale, and that's saying quite a lot from me. I REALLY sympathize with Mick. My heart dropped listening to this and it truly hurts my soul knowing that stuff like this happens far too regularly. If I completed this video, I might've broken into actual tears. So disheartening how disgusting and soulless people can be.

[@yunki_]

I don’t know what Marty expected to happen. Not only is Mick an affluent composer, but sound engineer as well. It takes years of meticulous and resilient effort to master these skills. As well as the passion and patience to actually produce records. I am not the least bit surprised at Mick’s effortlessly methodical deconstruction of Marty’s entire being and the events that transpired. On top of that, he did it while not only fighting lawyers tooth and nail for 2 years, but also maintaining his gentle and honest nature. His twitlonger is music to my ears lol. Perhaps people will be more careful not to fuck with musicians, especially composers and producers.

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

Or just be careful not to fuck with anyone in general, other than just musicians.

[@yunki_]

@@ArjunTheRageGuy Indeed, but people tend to brush of musicians in particular. They are quick to undermine the likeness of musicality to any STEM field out there. It’s funny seeing people shocked about the fact that musicians are incredibly intelligent, cunning, and overall a force to be reckoned with. Logically, it makes complete sense. You have to have a lot of tenacity to be able to master things such as drawing the human body from memory in any position. Even incorporating the proper amount of emotional elements/dynamics into a score that quite literally controls and amplifies the way an audience connects with the scene is an exceptional skill. Society has a negative bias towards artist in general when they are literally the backbone of society. It’s interesting watching people’s prescribed perception of the world crumble into reality.

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

@@yunki_ ok then

[@RediaI]

Damn Yong coming out swinging with the hour long video

[@gameuniverse5973]

Yet people dint think yong would do a video on it he was prepping a one hour video on it

[@Repugnantone]

@@gameuniverse5973 I knew he would. I figured he was crossing his t's and dotting, not just his lower case i's but his j's too. I was not expecting a one hour video if I'm being honest.

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

Coming out with his Yong out

[@Carlisho]

My man is taking no bullshit, respect

[@GetterRay]

He's just reading the blog post, its an hour because there is a lot to read, not because Yong did an extra amount of work on it.

[@CriticalNobody]

Mick came out swinging with a bible length post and all the necessary receipts so I'm inclined to believe every word he said

[@acewolfgang276]

Nice to see you in the comments section

[@kendarr]

Hard to combat this level of detail and evidence, Marty has the: trust me bro

[@ejiro8061]

What receipts

[@mkuhnactual]

@@ejiro8061 Did you not read the post, or what the video?

[@Youkai_graphics]

I can feel Mick Gordon's pain, I work as a 3D artist, usually making environment for shows. I didnt get paid for a long time, there was one time that they didnt even plan to pay me, i told them off and they paid me half of what promised.

[@artthebrawler1390]

almost sounds like what happened with Journey to The Center of the Earth

[@weertangel7231]

When i read through his post, i was blown away with how Marty could do something like this to Mick(or anyone else) out of pure greed and ego,not to mention letting him produce a soundtrack when game development had barely even started, thus making it even harder for him. I truly hope the ones responsible pay for what they have done.

[@HH-hd7nd]

Mick Gordon presents lots of proof. Marty Stratton presents no proof at all. Easy to see who is telling the truth here: Mick Gordon. Stratton, IDSoftware, Bethesda and Zenimax all have to be held accountable for what they did. Also, the "fans" harrassing Mick Gordon should be ashamed of themselves and should state public apologies as well.

[@JacobSantosDev]

Not going to lie, I expected to read Marty Stratton. The interwebs has ruined me as I expect people to do it for the lulz.

[@Dante999000]

Those so-called "fans" that are harrassing Mick are probably fans of Producer Marty, they love the money more than the passion of Mick.

[@JacobSantosDev]

What is funny to me is that anyone who has been part of game development would have thought Marty's account from the original reddit post was sus. If I am being honest, I didn't even care because I backed Mick Gordon just because.

[@gambiit]

unfortunately in cases like these, truth can do little to nothing when put up against Money

[@Marinealver]

Thing is Marty (not O'Donnell) was first, beating someone to the punch in an accusation is a politically sound business strategy. Be Smart, Be First, or Cheat, and it is a hell of a lot easier to Be First.

[@MKRET]

It's not often I feel physically ill while watching a gaming news article, but every sentence of Mick's story made me absolutely nauseous. Provided it's true, I can't imagine the hell he's been through personally and professionally, but I'm so proud he chose to expose it and (hopefully) change a rotten system for the better.

[@daLukasMain]

Lol I was getting anxiety just watching this video, imagining what Mick would have went though and how he would have felt.

[@AnimatedAndrew]

I felt fucking angered and stressed out listening to what he went through... just imagining the amount of crunch/all-nighters and bad-mouthing he had to endure. The stories that made me feel the most ill were the ones about Activision Blizzard's work culture. Like I couldn't believe what I was hearing most of the time. Same applies to this story, but holy fuck there are some messed up people in the games industry.

[@razorwireclouds5708]

Thank you for making this video. Someone with your number of followers helping Mick is what the industry needs. This kind of disgusting behaviour from management cannot be ignored or allowed to continue.

[@MassiveRican]

This was absolutely insane. I hope Jason Schreier and other news outlets pick up on this. Tired of seeing corporations take advantage of hard working honest people.

[@JJAB91]

I doubt Schreier will ever do a deep dive into it because doing so may burn bridges with ZeniMax for him. You need to remember Jason himself is a snake. He knew about the abuse at Activision-Blizzard for years for example but refused to report on it because he didn't wanna burn any bridges.

[@jccr496]

Horrified about the death threats and the harassment he received. even worse those people will never be remorseful about it even after all of this because those same people continue to behave the same in any online cancellation campaign

[@anshelman]

The gaming industry is in dire need of a shake-up. For far too long, many stories of abuse and neglect have come out and it's sickening. All the while the ones who perpetuate and are responsible for these crimes only get tepid slaps on the wrist. Beyond disgusting.

[@Lishtenbird]

I'd argue that instead it's a rare industry where internal workings get exposed at all because actual workdoers can matter to consumers, as opposed to most everywhere else where it's way easier to keep abuse behind closed doors.

[@runninginsept]

Shake it up by boycotting games produced under abusive conditions. It's literally not difficult.

[@mkuhnactual]

@@runninginsept Unfortunately people have been trained to consume and the idea of missing out on a game for the sake of principles, or not playing with friends because of anti-consumer practices seems too much for most gamers. Look at how many people still played and purchased mtx for Diablo Immortal despite it being extremely clear how predatory the game was.

[@runninginsept]

@@mkuhnactual Then those gamers are active participants in the abuse as well. What a horrible world we live in (I say this with zero irony).

[@daLukasMain]

You may laugh, but Haven Studio, the one Sony bought, the one run by Jade Raymond, is working on stream-lining the whole development process making things way faster and more efficient using cloud tech in the game dev space. Also Cerny has gotten invloved in some degree. Potentially making the process of developing massive AAA games in the future much more efficient and faster. The potential could be huge for game devs.

[@TychoHoward]

For the record: That 2015 game was Wolfenstein: The Old Blood. Search the ending track, The Partison (Cover) on KZbin, listen to it. And remember that he wasn't paid for this. Not until they tied it to Doom Eternal's soundtrack.

[@ricardopreuten7368]

save Mick Gordon. As a composer myself i gotta admit...his work on doom is a masterpiece. he is an artist to look up to.

[@theotherjared9824]

I remember at launch day that the game ripped soundtrack was significantly lower quality than what Mick Gordon released online and everyone concluded that the conversion process was rushed by someone else. Turns out everyone was 100% correct.

[@MorfsPrower]

*Rushed*? **Bethesda**?! noooooo... /s

[@muizzsiddique]

I actually bought the idea that Mick didn't have time to finish the album, especially when he publicly offered to continue his work, but I had no idea he was only contracted to work on 12 songs, the very 12 with only his name in the Artists tag.

[@andrewbaltes]

My guy. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate when you take the time with these deep dives. I've listened to this while picking up groceries, then take-out, and realized just how convenient it is to consume my games and media news through headphones instead of reading screens. I have far less time to stop and read his entire series of posts than I have to listen to you while I'm busy with all the responsibilities of life.

[@michel0dy]

Thank you Yong for taking the time and effort to convey Mick's post as a whole. This is a super complicated situation and the truth needs to be brought up

[@EchoFaustMusic]

It's not too surprising that Mick turned down the settlement. Your reputation in the audio industry is EVERYTHING. Damage to that is worth way more than any pretty wad of cash. That, and Mick seems like the stand up kinda guy not to be bought.

[@mac19999x]

Mick did a great job. His work was crucial for the success of the game. He deserves respect. Give him what he wants.

[@AuspexAO]

This is America, man. We don’t give people who do the art and programming what they deserve. They get a tiny slice of their labor and the company steals the rest. Surely the random old men who own stock in Zenimax deserve that money more than the people who did all the work to make the game.

[@JS-qt3co]

Mega thanks for sharing all of it - people need to fully understand how corporations operate and what you can expect from them...

[@WwZa7]

This is great coverage, I'm glad you are covering this. I can't imagine what hell he had to go through. I had my fair share of my close relatives spreading false rumors about me, my friends turning back on me, being threatened out of the blue... When you wake up, and you see people you trust suddenly attack you, and you have no idea what is happening, and everyone refuses to tell you what the hell is going on, because they are sure you know the sins they believe in, you feel like entire world is suddenly collapsing. And not in the cool way. What Mick Gordon had to go through, along with many others, is on infinitely bigger scale than I could ever imagine. The truth has to see the light of day.

[@ToolofSociety]

Corporations hate it when one of their contractors/lowbies starts getting noticed by the consumers. In this case Mick's soundtrack was starting to outshine the game and franchise itself. That's unacceptable because it provides Mick with leverage in negotiating contracts. SO Marty and some others decided they'd knee cap Mick now so they don't have to worry about any fan blowback for changing composers or Mick demanding more money. IT almost worked too. Marty and crew had doom fans raging at Mick as planned. Unfortunately for ID marty's ego got in the way of a payoff for Mick. IT really seems Mick would of let it go if Marty's post on reddit was taken down. Maybe they really just assumed it'd be as simple as handing Mick a stack of cash who knows.. Hopefully Mick will at least get paid for the songs he didn't get paid for and some extra...

[@mch5546]

1 HOUR ?!?!??!?!?!??

[@ihaveaname699]

AN HOUR!?!??!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!

[@cliffturbo2146]

AND TWO MINUTES?!?!?!

[@gcharles3065]

@@ihaveaname699 YEA, IT’S ONE HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jamesduncan6729]

It's a lot of drama... 😏

[@gameuniverse5973]

With 43 seconds don't forgot that part

[@LifeWulf]

Thank you for going over it all Yong, I wasn't going to read the whole thing but having your video on in the background and occasionally glancing at the screen to see the screenshots let me catch up with the story!

[@MattBrain9336]

I hope this made people realize to put everything in writing / contracts If things suddenly change (deadline moved closer, scope increased, etc), then they need to make a new contract These big corporations prioritize themselves, approaching them "in good faith" is always a bad idea

[@celestialcolosseum]

It's always the human trash that occupies the higher seats. It's rare to see a hardworking, non-exploiting, good hearted people coming to positions like that, marty is the living proof of that. Always have to blame someone else to rise above. The world is hell to talented and honest people like Mick, he is too good for people like this. Watch his GDC talks, dude is passionate, talented and overall a really great guy from what i've seen. He pours his heart into his work and you can definitely notice those details when listening. But it only took one trash human to entirely flip the narrative and disregard his work, this world needs a hard reset.

[@Feliciathedoll]

Even if the world gets reset, This dreadful cycle Starts all over again...

[@cyncynshop]

If only top positions are voted by other workers instead appointed by other abusive assholes from the top. Corporations misunderstood blaming others as leadership, never taking blame as confidence. We need change, for now its unions to bargain for better conditions and represent the workers. In the future, is an economy that workers owned instead.

[@nextlifeonearth]

The saying goes: "scum floats to the top".

[@Bwoodlyy]

I’ve been waiting for Yong to cover this absolutely insane situation. You know Mick is a god if even through all of this BS he still produced the music for Doom Eternal which is objectively some of the best music in games ever made.

[@Darksky1001able]

@beerrrrs Shit, give me '93 anyday.

[@UriPhoneCracker]

@beerrrrs 2016 was a prelude for Eternal imo. Both are great

[@raivane__]

Also the fact that he wanted to remake the entire OST, even after all the shit he went through. If that doesn't show you he genuinely cared about the fans and the franchise, I dont know what will

[@gastondelacaze4863]

I hope all this makes Mick go up again and feel good with life again. I feel for this guy, the stress that he must have felt.

[@alexliengsky6884]

I decided to watch this again after reading a tweet from Ghost Ship Games (developers of Deep Rock Galactic) they posted a day ago regarding the departure of one of their veteran sound designers who decided to "embark on a new chapter". The entire post was a very wholesome farewell letter that mentioned his contributions and praised his skills, ending with the announcement of a previously unused track they would release on an upcoming album and will also be added to the game. I forgot just how absolutely nightmarish Mick Gordon's situation was but sadly I'm not surprised that monsters like Marty exist. Those people don't even deserve to go to hell, they deserve what lies below.

[@sytherwusky]

In regards to this situation, I would like to say thing to Todd Howard:you’re overworking and backstabbing your best employees whatever you think “ just works” at your studio IT CLEARLY DOES NOT!

[@DarkstarArchangel]

THIS is how you make a good farewell to talented people that do the work. Not evil crap that Marty did.

[@ihatestairs9034]

It’s a real big shame this has happened considering Mick is insanely talented and Doom Eternal is a fantastic game on its own. Like this entire thing really should never have happened and we should have had a fantastic product with zero controversy but Marty had to screw it all up

[@joeykeilholz925]

I mean. It's eternal. Low ammo, take control away from the player and show them where enemies spawn - all that bullshit. Maybe if they listened to MG it would have been a better game, but I really don't care about it besides the technical skill as a piece of software and visual fidelity.

[@gfyGoogle]

@@joeykeilholz925 shittiest take I’ve seen in ages. You’re just mad that you weren’t able to breeze through the entire game using the Super Shotgun and instead had to manage resources. Just enable the infinite ammo cheat code if you want the game to be easy bro.

[@inciacci549]

The product of a bruised ego of somebody with a tyrant complex.

[@MaximumADHD]

Was waiting for your coverage on this story and I’m glad you’re doing it the justice it deserves, cuz holy fuck he was done dirty.

[@sokunros4002]

I wish Yong would do these kind of videos more. This is a very detailed report video. Bravo.

[@ForeverDansky]

Well done Yong for putting such a detailed video together covering everything in depth 👏

[@windmolen00]

When they announced the OST they DID have a contract for it, but not with Gordon. That Chad what-ever-his-name-is was already made to make the OST. (Not a contract because he works for them.) That's why Chad had final say on everything and his name was on every song as an author. I'm pretty sure from the very start of everything they planned to have Chad take all Gordon's in game audio and rejected music and make an "OST" out of it. Trying to use Gordons work without his knowledge or consent. The fucked up part is when they were rejecting his music over and over, and then claiming he didn't meet deadlines. All the music they rejected they actually were using and planned to use. They were just milking Gordon for more content than he was contracted to do. They denied him pay for 11 months to make him keep producing more all the while taking everything and handing it over to Chad to start putting together OST songs with it. During those 11 months he wasn't even contracted for the OST yet, but had proof Chad was using his rejected work(through the meta data) during that exact time.

[@Enderguy059]

So they were deliberately holding back on contracting Mick the soundtrack, purely so they could have Chad create it without any extra cost beside his existing salary. Utterly fucked.

[@Gwynsladle]

Jesus Christ 🤬🤬

[@knowwhoiamyet]

"If I admit I did something bad people won't like me!" Yeah we call that fucking around and finding out. Reaping what you sow. Sleeping in the bed you made.

[@Rizzitriver]

I had no idea any of this happened until today. This is such a shame man, I LOVE Mick Gordon's work, so tired of big companies taking advantage of amazing artists.

[@ShinigamiEater]

Thank you for covering this in such detail/length. Good to know even the people who couldn't or didn't read Mick's response will still be made aware of the details. Companies treating artists this way is completely unacceptable.

[@vincenzovieri3743]

Maximilian dood worked with mick Gordon. He said he was a fun to work with always positive and a hard worker. Gordon is one of the best gaming composers out there. It’s sad to see how they treated him and must be worse for others

[@r-d-v]

I’ve heard nothing but good things about mick Gordon. There’s multiple accounts of people emailing him questions and him responding with pages of info and insight. Which is crazy considering his schedule must be non stop

[@Nelkami]

Yeah, multiple people and bands in the metalcore scene have also worked with him in the past 2 years. Bands like Movements and Motionless in White have Mick Gordon feature on a song or two of both their new records. I'm sure Mick isn't a bad person, ans he was the one getting fucked over

[@xghostx9715]

While it’s bad that Marty didn’t treat Mick properly, at least Mick told people not to review bomb the game.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Because some devs also work hard to make the game which mick knows not everyone should be grouped up together

[@lightningbolt4419]

Shows he has integrity unlike the bayonetta woman

[@alfredoamendez4299]

@@lightningbolt4419 And that's why, along with his receipts, i actually believe in him, and it is no surprise after seeing how Bethesda fucks it up with their last releases.

[@fierysmile2929]

Please stop comparing the Bayonetta situation to this one. Taylor was lying. Mick wasn't.

[@CmoIsDaNam3i]

@Fierysmile That IS the comparison. The fact that Taylor lied and Mick didn't. Mick has receipts. Taylor doesn't and has deep holes in her story. That is fair to point and honestly a good mark for people to compare for anything similar that may happen.

[@darrylrobson4376]

Reading Mick Gordon's statement made me feel first-hand anger at Marty Stratton.

[@AnimatedDisc]

I appreciate you doing a deep dive on the medium post. You made is easy for someone like me to go through it together. Great video!

[@add5459]

the fact that mick still created an amazing sound track for this game just show how fucking amazing he is sad he had to suffer so much in this game

[@nukeatom]

Very unfortunate that they did this to him, love his music. Also I'm glad you covered this horrendous betrayal.

[@kam3085]

Mick Gordon has proven himself time and time again. Quit fucking with a genius

[@antzerobooks]

i'm glad that you took your time to make this video since mick also took his time to present his side, hopefully more investigation put more light into this situation

[@bitlinkgame]

I'm happy you made this, I found Mick's statement several days ago. I'm over here, delaying cause I'm busy and couldn't sit down and read and I thought, "Man, I hope Yong did a video cause I want to hear it." Published 5 hours ago, you fuckin rock dude

[@Kwatcher100]

Such a pity. Doom Eternal is an awesome game.

[@gameuniverse5973]

This just makes me worried for the third doom game more

[@coltonwilkie241]

ID's only game in over 20 years that isn't mid.

[@3Guys1Video]

@@coltonwilkie241 what about DOOM 2016

[@EskChan19]

@@Ted_Bell The game is great. I get it, you're on a witch hunt now, but that doesn't change the fact that Doom Eternal is one of the best shooters ever made.

[@lemao2222]

​@@Ted_Bell oh so all of a sudden Doom Eternal completely sucks now? Yeesh, it's either 1 or 1000000000 with you people.

[@jimdiroffii]

I'll be watching this front to back. Maybe twice. Mick and Yong deserve all the support possible.

[@alternateA]

1 Hour of Yong showing the straight FACTS is a real treat

[@Athalfuns]

I remember reading Marty's lies, and feeling so sad to know Mick was such an asshole. That very talented man that has created one my most favorite soundtracks ever, Killer Instinct's and Doom 2016's. I also remember to feel that it was very strange that such a passionate person would be this way. Now, after Mick's response, I feel so bad for Mick, what a terrible nightmare. It hurts even more knowing how much passion he has for his work and Doom, and that he tried every other way to fix this situation, but Marty and his lawyers were too focused on hate, destroying Mick's reputation and Doom Eternal for their own insignificant, shitty, egos. Fuck 'em to hell!

[@Donteatmossimsensitive]

Today we get blessed with an hour of Yong tearing apart shady business men, I love it

[@jess648]

this is the kind of horror stories freelance artists face in tons of other video game companies

[@JBVXR]

Hope Mick gets the compensation he deserves. He seems to have suffered at the hands of a sociopath.

[@ludens5129]

Hey YongYea I appreciate these long in depth analysis of the id Software situation. I was wondering when you were going to talk about it and I'm glad you decided to wait it out, do some research, and really dig deep.

[@jonnykhatru]

Aw yeah a one hour video, thank you Yong, I hope this brings more attention to the madness that needs to be resolved

[@DoktahDoktah]

Marty didn't have to say a thing. But he showed up on time with a shovel to bury himself.

[@wizbit66]

comprehensive coverage, lots of great info, much appreciated.

[@saghwteam]

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

[@saltywinchester1600]

One hour?! COOL! Need more long videos of YongYea. :)

[@MrTEShero]

Been waiting for you to cover this, finally! Good on you to put this into your mediasphere.

[@masamune..]

@yongyea I've been following you for a long time now, and have to share your storytelling has improved so much since then. I also appreciate your clarity, and unbiased opinion. The way you handled this issue in particular, was stellar. Keep up the great work. You are quickly becoming the Rick Beato of the video game world.

[@Tehstampede]

This really casts a dark cloud over the otherwise awesome soundtrack of Doom Eternal. I don't know if I can still listen to it and get the same feeling knowing that the composer was dealing with all this bullshit while making it

[@tenjenk]

Imagine how muxh better it would have been without this ego trip mismanagament bulshit and how much better it would have been woven into the combat