IDEAL BOILERS - Review - LEEDS PLUMBER

[@eggman1978]

Ive got an alpha cb33 thats just given up the ghost 16 years old so its time to replace rather than repair. Im hearing good things about these vogue boilers so these insights and reviews really help out when deciding what to choose. Thank you for sharing your knowledge

[@Phucket24]

Thank you Allan your videos are very informative and you give us (public) an insight into the work you professional do Thank you

[@AllenHart999]

Thank you.

[@davidwaterhouse2552]

Really enjoyed the video ALAN! I am a big fan of Ideal Boilers, I am based in North Manchester and they are made in Hull in East Yorkshire. I used to work for Eaga/ Carillion on the Warmfront/Warmsure grant projects, first as a contractor and later as direct, and dealt with IDEAL all the time, and I have to say that their innovation, yet dedication to simplicity, whilst retaining a high build quality is so refreshing! Their technical department are first class to deal with and are a 50/50 mix of male and female technical staff who are well versed, and well trained in their produscts, and an absolute pleasure to deal with. ( They are my first choice install, and I do fit a lot of Logics, but I also rate Vaillant Eco tecs highly) Re the video, I agree with everything you say about 'Worcester Bosch' boilers, and leaking 'composite' parts. As for the surprise, I think I am going to have to watch it back as it was a bit rushed, but it was great to see the product introduced by 'THE GREAT JOHN WILSON' from Ravenheat! Absolute legend, I have met him a couple of times and been to Ravenheat's training day, a very helpful, knowledgeable man, who is passionate about what he does! And he has even got a better head of hair than me! Keep up the good work PAL! Cheers David Waterhouse, Pipecraft Plumbing and Heating! dx

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

just replaced our old boiler which had been going 30 years when we recently bought the house. Wanted to replace it with a new efficient one and chose the Ideal Vogue Max which came with the Halo room wireless controller. Couldn't be easier to use and boiler runs almost silently. Really impressed with the build quality which betters the equivalent Worcester Bosch ones. Despite the whole house being on micro-bore, radiators are hot within a few minutes of the boiler switching on. Installer really liked this model and says he's yet to hear of any breaking down within their 10 year warranty. User interface is very advanced and well designed with loads of features which are probably of more use to the service engineer than the average owner who will likely only ever use the remote or their phone app to control the boiler functions.

[@tomstrutton4351]

Years ago, my old man fitted an ideal....can’t remember the model...it leaked from a manufacturerd part. Ideal wanted him to take it back to the suppliers, they would send it to them and check it over before sending out another one. He’s never fitted one since

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍

[@scottgas58]

Hi allen In my opinion the ideal boiler rang is my favourite to fit given the choice i only fit them very simple to fit service and repair plus no settings up when finished like some boilers good videos mate kerp it up .

[@AllenHart999]

Thank you.

[@simonbalaam4296]

Seen many of your videos. I think this has helped me decide on this over a Worcester 8000 life.

[@johnboy1232]

So Ideal at last climbing up the grid ( to use an F1 expression) .From the heights of the E Type to the lows of the Isis and it's siblings which could not possibly be any worse . A boiler that seriously damaged Ideals reputation ,to the not entirely convincing Logic with its heat exchanger and sump issues . The Vogue's 12 year guarantee is impressive and that display is amazing, Not sure about swoping plastic for brass .A cost cutting exercise or why would you swap something that works for something that does not ( at least on the Worster. ) In Ideals favour never had any trouble getting them out under warranty even to the Isis although that was several years ago now.

[@johnboy1232]

I used to use a toilet duck bottle for washing out the heat exchangers,You can get the water just were you want it and keep it away from the electrodes on some boilers is Ideal Isar .worked very well!

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍

[@davidpeters2905]

Hi Allen, really enjoyed this video as i had fitted the C40 boiler 2 years ago after watching your videos and reading other people's reviews etc, also had k2 radiators fitted at the same time with new stats etc and my home has never felt so warm as it does now, just had the 2nd year service done, but the engineer didn't take a vacuum with him whilst he was servicing the boiler should i be concerned about him not vacuuming out the heat exchanger? Also a random question the water that comes out of the condenser pipe is it acidic or is it just distilled type water, thanks i really hope that you answer my questions as i am a little concerned

[@AllenHart999]

Hi David, I wouldn’t worry about the vac, The condensate is slightly acidic. Thanks.

[@davidpeters2905]

@@AllenHart999, hi Allen thank you for answering my questions so quickly it's appreciated and you have put my mind to rest, the reason i asked about the condenser pipe as its been leaking, and not for the first time, the engineer has come to the conclusion that the fall is incorrect and the water is lying in the pipe work and he said it was acidic water and its damaging the joints? Which i do find hard to believe

[@markthompson4478]

Finger touch showing each part and what it is. Also show full disconnection and 360 view of parts removed. Good video

[@thejoneseys]

Glad you've done this video. I need to swap my boiler this summer and my plumber recommends this Ideal model over the Worcester and said they are so much easier to work on (certainly looks that way inside). Really liked the level of built-in diagnostic on that thing and 12 years warranty wow! I'll definitely look at one of these!

[@AllenHart999]

Definitely better than any Worcester bosch boiler in my opinion. Thanks.

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

thejoneseys , All in all a good boiler but I’m not sure if I would fit another one, as I’ve had a complaint of the noise from the boiler and the whirring noise from the pump is excessive & not agreeable at all, I would Look At the viessmann 100 series ,all in all it seems the best package at the moment and the quietness and gas saving is amazing! My customers love them and so do I !

[@thejoneseys]

@@SalimKhan-gk1fh nice one I'll have a look at those too. I certainly hate noisy.appliances!

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

thejoneseys , yes do you homework ! I was caught out and a bit disappointed that the top of the range ideal was more noisier than the standard ideal logic !!! disappointing for me and the customer ,it’s got a flimsy plastic casing which doesn’t help much with noise suppression, someone has asked in the comments below the video and Allen admits it’s noisier than a standard ideal , viessmann boilers comes with a 10 year guarantee if fitted by an approved installer it’s whisper quiet and out of 20 I’ve fitted everyone has commented on the gas savings and the quietness

[@williammcgrattan9583]

@@SalimKhan-gk1fh if it's a quiet boiler you need, then you go for a Viessmann. My watch ticks louder. They're incredible. I've had customer ring me up asking if their boiler is still going.

[@45graham45]

Would you recommend the Vogue (with plastic fittings) over the Baxi 830?

[@mickbawn6815]

How reliable is the diverter valve ( they used to be very bad ?) other than that it looks a good boiler

[@AllenHart999]

I have never had a fault on one yet. Thanks.

[@iheggis86]

Great vid! Would you say these are louder than the logic range?

[@AllenHart999]

Yes i would say they are a bit louder. Thanks.

[@BrianJohnson-ef8us]

@@AllenHart999 Great video as always. I may change my boiler soon (Trianco 45/60, 1986 ... two thermocouples and one gas valve have kept it going). Modern boilers seem noisy in comparison ... is that because later boilers have a fan and that's the extra noise source? Suggested replacement boiler is an Ideal ... would you support that as a system boiler (just changing from an indirect to a direct cylinder and know that the Trianco won't go on forever!

[@stephendoherty8291]

Does the maximum efficiency mean its only fully condensed just 10% of the time vs "high efficiency". Why would it not be opentherm if its built into the boiler unless the thermostats won't work also in opentherm load compensation and moderation

[@davidwaterhouse2552]

I think they are so good, I installed one (A C40 MAX) in my own home, ( I am a heating professional trading as Pipecraft Plumbing and Heating in Royton, Greater Manchester) And as an accredited installer with IDEAL, I can add 2 years to the 10 year warranty, that comes with this boiler. They are in my opinion; The Best Boiler on the market, along with the Vaillant Ecotec ,which I believe it is based on. But as you said Alan, the digital interface is fantastic! Really easy to use. Cheers dx

[@stevecraft00]

Allen, i have this exact boiler, this age but 32kw. Sometimes when we turn on the hot water (when the boiler is cold) the boiler fires for a second, then cycles off and back on. It means it takes ages to get the shower to temperature. I had a similar problen with a baxi duotec in my old house, i think the engineer adjusted a gap in the combustion chamber, flame sensor maybe? Could this be the problem here? Obvs not going to attempt it myself but would be nice to know when the engineer comes to service it.

[@adrianlinton6660]

Good video,watched a few, I can't seem to find anything on an ideal Atlantic C30. Any thoughts? Is this a good model ? Thanks

[@AllenHart999]

Adrian Linton I believe it’s the same internally as the ideal Logic max, Thanks

[@KasimKhan-qk7ro]

Hi i work for Ideal boilers and internally similar to a logic max however new display and currently 5 year warranty

[@tonze9829]

Hello Allen, I am in the process of relocating back to the UK from South Africa and looking seriously at a property unfortunately just outside your area (actually in Stokesley North Yorkshire). At the premises is an Ideal gas boiler, the model is M3080, they have a service agreement with British Gas and have it serviced annually and it was installed August 2003. I would appreciate your comments on this type of boiler and should I replace it? Cheers Tony

[@01plumberman]

localboy the M3080 is an old condensing boiler and can be costly to repair and in some cases depending on the serial number, some parts are obsolete. Regardless of a British Gas contract having looked after it, in my professional view that means Jack S**t. Their engineers DO NOT service appliances correctly in line with the manufacturers instructions so do not think it will be in tip top condition.... far from it I’d guess. To summarise, put money aside to replace it when you can and spend no money repairing it 👍🏻

[@tonze9829]

@@01plumberman Hi Will, Thank you your comment is greatly appreciated. Just as I thought I will be using a surveyor to carry out a Homebuyers survey so now that you have confirmed my thoughts I will try to negotiate a deal on the boiler. I don't know if there is any government award system on replacement as I will also check if that is the case. Some things never change when it comes to British Gas eh! Have you an email to chat about plumbing in general and are you in the area?

[@oliverbloor1029]

Your videos are top man. Really helping me I appreciate it. I’m an apprentice have been fit just over a year. Everything going really well but recently had a few leaks and made a few mistakes and it’s getting me down really, have you got any advice?

[@AllenHart999]

Go back to basics, Take your time, We all have leaks. Good luck👍

[@michaelpower2mp]

I second that every plumber goes through a patch where they have a few leaks chin up it's only water

[@williammcgrattan9583]

Lovely Install, tidy. Vogue is a nice boiler, just quality.

[@mihaiachim5299]

I do not need that plastic adapter: I can make the boiler switch on the hot water by restarting it and then remove the plug from the servomotor when it is in the position desired by me - this method works on any boiler brand with any servomotor model: p

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks for the comment.👍

[@ASQUITHZ9]

Hi Allen do you have time to look at my Buderus 600 28c?

[@felix807]

in service manual of viessmann vitodens is wrote that is not recomandable to use wire brush or another tools that scratch the heat exchanger, cause further provoke corosion! is that terrible? i asked because i saw you using that kind of tools on all boiler that you serviced! anyway your vids are very good.

[@senna4281]

Hi Allen I am looking to have my boiler replaced, what boiler on the market today would you have fitted to your house if you had to replace your boiler. Looking at a (Viessmann Vitodens 111-W 26kW Storage Combination Boiler Natural Gas ErP) or a (IDEAL VOGUE MAX COMBI 40 GAS COMBI BOILER) are these both ON a par with each other if yes what would be your choice. Changing from oil to PLG

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

Andy Taylor The boiler itself is around £1500 I’m not sure whereabouts u are in the UK ? so the fitting price will vary a bit all depends on whether you are having it flushed /Magna cleansed or what your installer recommends it’s certainly a good boiler though I fitted a few so far customer satisfaction has been fantastic,

[@AllenHart999]

Vogue is a very good boiler, Also Baxi Platinum. Really depends on requirements.

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

Must admit ideal have upped there game these days, I’v fitted a few ideal independents and they have been good, but my choice and the ones I recommend is VIESSMANN vitodens over the last 5 years or so, from recent videos of yours I thought u were mainly viessmann too?

[@AllenHart999]

Lots of good boilers. I try and be as honest as i can with all brands. Thanks.

[@avrilcrisp5725]

Last 5 years? Crikes if I paid £2500 for a boiler I would prefer something that lasted a damn sight longer than 5 years. I have had the Ideal Max for 2 years now and not a bad boiler. Vallient lasted 4 years and broke down more times than I care to remember. Worcester Bosch lasted 8 years.

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

@@avrilcrisp5725 I think you miss read that I meant I’ve been recommending them last five years or so

[@gazza9463]

I have heard stories that 'ideal' are not so good at honouring warranties. Any excuse offered so that the customer has to pay for any repair. This true or BS?

[@RayMondElec]

Hi Allen thanks for the video. I have the Valliant 937 ecotec. Stainless heat exchanger. The menu is very similar if not the same as the ideal vogue you mention. Concerning Composite components , well, it's all to do with reducing costs and i think it is too early to say. You cannot beat brass.

[@tonyaberdeen4478]

Just subscribed too u today learned more today than I have in a year with other sites. Wish I had seen this before I had a vokera easily heat plus installed. Replaced two remote thermostat controls already they work for about 9 months then orange light comes on and they won’t control the heating to times set

[@AllenHart999]

Thank you so much.

[@sjcsystems]

@Allen Hart please can you confirm that you really are happy with Ideal as a company? I am asking because Trustpilot have an 82:18 bad to good ratio of reviews. As a top reviewer on that platform, I am very disturbed by this. You're not on commission are you?

[@AllenHart999]

Most boilers and brands are as good as the installers or the people servicing them, The ideal vogue is a good boiler in my opinion

[@apple4iphone]

Brilliant videos!! Pls could you tell me would a radiator that’s corroding inside wreck the boiler I brought a couple of big rads off eBay (Chinese I think) and they seem to be corroding only after a couple of years causing my boiler to knock

[@AllenHart999]

Might need flushing. Thanks.

[@apple4iphone]

Allen Hart thank you

[@45graham45]

When is it necessary to fit a shock arrestor to a system?

[@paulw4904]

The new Ideal Vogue Max only comes with the 12 year Warranty if the installer has completed the I deal Vogue course....a separate course to their other installer course or if the installer fits three or more of the boilers a year??? (As I found out last week) 🙄

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍

[@HalogenStarMusic]

We had an Ideal classic boiler that lasted a good 20 years.

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍

[@robinmyman]

Halogen Star we have a Logic Heat 24 that lasted 2 years...you do the math.

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

Allen Hart Hi Allen would you possibly have in your man cave An ideal logic flu elbow (the one that comes out of the top of the boiler) I can’t seem to buy one as you have to buy the whole horizontal flu kit ,would appreciate your help if you can Thanks

[@mihaiachim5299]

at the Ideal boiler the hydraulic block is a simple / generic and reliable one. The interface seems borrowed from vaillant. :D

[@AllenHart999]

Which boilers do you install? Thanks for the comments. 👍

[@davep4703]

Alan does the Ideal heat only boilers also use stainless steel heat exchangers.

[@AllenHart999]

No,

[@jamessweeney7328]

Allen and others. Could you tell me what is the strongest gas blower you have found. I need a strong fan for an experiment I'm working on.Thanks

[@nickjarvis2731]

They are all the same then turned down to suit the lower output models. That said I think ebmpapst have a pretty gnarly range of blowers.

[@profettcc3197]

Good video 👍🏿 An idea for a video, a solar heating system with immersion heater cylinder and combi boiler. Is it possible?

[@MrJasdog107]

We have exact same boiler which is also 4 years old. Great piece of kit with a 10 year gaurantee .

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@elwittinio2865]

Allan can you do a boiler plus video, and what you recommend for ideal or Baxi, cheers 🤙🤙

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍

[@robinmyman]

Yeah...focus on the heat exchangers, do.

[@accesszero4803]

Great boiler , gen 2 has an even better display, cant go wromg with ideal. Tip for u allan , buy a boxing sports bottle with the straw on the top , perfect for flushin clean water through the heat exchanger on any boiler especially the logic, no more trying to pour cups of water down them

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks.

[@garfield2279]

Small washing up liquid bottle does the same job

[@tonze9829]

Allen are spares still available for this type of Ideal M3080 boiler?

[@AllenHart999]

No idea, Sorry.

[@cjstubejackofalltrade1551]

Hi there, my ideal vogue touch thermostat is dead. How do I put the heating on without a thermostat? The battery is fine. All of a sudden display started blinking and now its completely dead. I couldn't even increase or decrease the temperature when I rotate the thing. Its dead. Please help

[@tigerick7291]

Great boiler but they still leak around the valves as the logics do. They are very handy if you need a 40 kw combi though. Give me a Baxi any day. I've just serviced a Duotec 33 I installed 12 years ago and it's still spot on with emissions, no leaks at all and hasn't even had a thermister since the day it was installed.

[@AllenHart999]

Platinum is also an amazing boiler in my opinion. Thanks.

[@tigerick7291]

@@AllenHart999 Isn't it the same boiler with an extended warranty Alan.

[@AllenHart999]

@@tigerick7291 Yes, Duo-tec and Platinum are the same.

[@303max3]

I wonder what will happen to that best pump after you shut the aav??

[@AllenHart999]

😂😂😂😂👍

[@paulkelly3254]

I must say the ideal Vogue and the Baxi 600 and 800 are well designed and put together, from a service point of view they are very straightforward and easy to work on, it looks like they have paid a lot of attention to this issue. To be fair, Worcester made a market leader in the junior when ideal had the Isar and Baxi had the neta-Tec on the market, since then they have really upped their game, so it goes on cycles really. Did you get your brush from BG Alan? 😆 great little piece of kit👍🏻 I’ve still got mine😆

[@AllenHart999]

Takes less than 1 min to fully strip the boiler down as you know. Amazing boilers for working on. Thanks.

[@AllenHart999]

I have had that brush a long time, Yes from BG

[@AllenHart999]

Platinum / Duo-tec have been around 14 years and better than any Worcester Bosch in my personal opinion. Thanks.

[@paulkelly3254]

The new generation of boilers are so much better, shame when they are trying to knock fossil fuels on the head😆 I think the stainless steel heat exchangers are top notch, efficient and don’t oxidise badly

[@paulkelly3254]

Oh well, at least I will be busy😆

[@robinmyman]

We have a Logic Heat 24. Had it from new with our new house. Thought we had a 10 year warranty until the heat exchanger failed after 2 years. Evidently you only get 10 years if you have a filter installed from new. Ideal said sorry no cover...£700 to fit a new heat exchanger. No-one told us about the filter, not even the builder. Played hell with builder who made Ideal change the heat exchanger. Top of the market filter installed by me. Ideal said the new heat exchanger warranty was one year, even with the filter. Frankly I wouldn’t touch Ideal with the proverbial. When my current Ideal fails I’ll get a Worcester Bosch. Good luck with your Ideal warranty...got a filter?

[@01plumberman]

robinmyman 🤣 ideal like any other manufacturer will have terms to which they will stick by. If your builder didn’t advise you of this or register the product properly then you that is not a fault of the manufacturer. I bet you benchmark book hasn’t even been completed correctly if at all? Builders tend to cock most things up 👍🏻

[@robinmyman]

Will Parish You wish!

[@01plumberman]

robinmyman you can always tell the intellect of a person when they say “I’ll just fit a Worcester Bosch” 🙈

[@robinmyman]

Will Parish And you can always tell a gas lighter...it is how it is...repeat..Ideal is a nightmare...imho out to make money by misleading...look at their website. And brains...top 5% in country. 🤪😂

[@01plumberman]

robinmyman you got burnt and you’re looking for somebody to blame. I’d love you as my customer

[@ИльяПанчук-ь9ю]

Tidy installation. Still looks nice after 4 years 👍

[@AllenHart999]

These are really nice boilers. 👍

[@Falco45able]

Where’s the navian combi boilers they looked promising?

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍

[@amost84]

The way you can tell it’s a good boiler is by the way it looks after a few years....that looks almost as good as new where as cheap boilers look 10+ years old after only a few years being installed

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍

[@robinmyman]

The way I could tell it was a lousy boiler was when the heat exchanger failed after 2 years in a brand new top of the range 5 bed house.

[@amost84]

robinmyman 😂 shit happens mate.....even the best fail at times.

[@robinmyman]

Tom Amos Well I certainly drew the short straw on this occasion.👍

[@amost84]

robinmyman haha fair play you got the one built on a Friday afternoon my man. In general good boilers. Did they honour the warranty?

[@jayzeebeezee7442]

Just replaced my Ideal Mexico boiler. 40 years old, built like a battleship, and never let me down. Shame she was just so inefficient. Don't make them like that anymore. Changed for a modern combi and wow! What a difference. But I don't think it will last nearly as long.

[@BHANGUVIDEOSUK]

Great video.

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks for the visit

[@leerolfe5332]

Trained by old school and class myself a semi old school fitter so why do i find it hard to trust IDEAL boilers?

[@robinmyman]

lee rolfe Bang on mate! They are unreliable. Heat exchanger blown after 2 years.

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@5183adam]

My logic max c24 has been in my rental property since 2018 and touch wood it's been fine. Next rental will have this or I think the baxi 800

[@leerolfe5332]

@@5183adam 3 years isn't a test for a boiler life. Go with the baxi bud and that's for sure ;)

[@WEYHARRY1]

That is a great idea on the plastic widget

[@AllenHart999]

What plastic widget 😂

[@WEYHARRY1]

The diverter valve plastic pin, good idea

[@cynt1111]

love these boilers.

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@TheIcebon]

Don’t look too bad Allen, good work

[@AllenHart999]

Cannot fault them tbh. Thanks.

[@tommyblackman7119]

Always a Worcester in my home but from your vids I’m not liking Worcester’s, especially these new ones .. I’m always now leaning towards the vogue

[@AllenHart999]

Vogue is a great boiler in my opinion. Thanks.

[@kryptoniteee]

Tommy Blackman once you go baxi you don’t go baki

[@robinmyman]

Once you find out your new Ideal boiler only has a 2 year warranty and if you haven’t fitted their Ideal filter and filled it with the correct mixture of inhibitor ... forget it.

[@stuartornum]

@Allen Hart - thanks for these videos, I really appreciate it. We are in the market for a new boiler but I'm not sure on the what size of boiler I should be getting. I just had a quote for a Worcester 24i System boiler... is this big enough? (5 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms..) I also know you aren't a fan of Worcester... is that true for System and Combi's? If you could do a video on correct boiler sizing combi/system that would be amazing! Cheers

[@AllenHart999]

Stuart Munro Personally I would want a boiler with a stainless steel heat exchanger if it was my own house, Main/Baxi do a stainless one, also Viessmann, 👍

[@stuartornum]

Allen Hart thanks for the reply! Much appreciated! What’s your view on the sizing? Does it sound correct? Also, with 10 year guarantees common place... is there much of a difference these day between the brands?

[@AllenHart999]

Stuart Munro no idea about sizing, Get a quote from British Gas and they will size the property for you.

[@craigwatson7692]

Great video as always Alan. I personally dont rate ideal all that much. The logics are terrible in my opinion and riddled with issues. I've never installed a vogue though and while I appreciate they're worlds apart from the logics, for the price of them I'd much rather install a vaillant instead. Just a thought for a future video, I noticed at the start of the vid you mentioned how you safely isolated the electrics. Given how gas safe are going to be pushing more on safe electrical isolation, perhaps a video demonstrating the importance of safe isolation as well correct methods of isolation and proving isolation. And also the importance of using temporary bonding clamps. My recent inspection touched on this and while I do take care while working on electrics, I have to admit that I'm terrible for just taking the fuse out and cutting straight into the cables without actually proving they're isolated 😔

[@AllenHart999]

Hi Craig. Thanks.

[@robinmyman]

Agree..Logics are terrible.

[@Cmwgas]

Find it really annoying you still cant range rate ideals

[@303max3]

Long term review on a 4 year old boiler ??

[@robinmyman]

303max Mine lasted 2 years...I’d give it a review. 🙄

[@AllenHart999]

@@robinmyman I would of love to see your install and done a water test. What do you have now. Thanks.

[@robinmyman]

Heat exchanger replaced, courtesy of Barratt Homes telling Ideal to fix it. I installed an ADEY 28mm MagnaClean Professional Filter MC28002 BNIB along with F1 treatment. Ideal would not give me any more than a 12 month warranty on new exchanger. If and when this one fails it will be a Worcester Bosch boiler.

[@AllenHart999]

@@robinmyman New builds are normally shocking from my experience, Doesn’t really matter on boiler as builders sometimes choose cheapest installers and they don,t get flushed. I flush quite a few systems on newish housing estates. I will always install ideal over any Worcester Bosch, But its all down to personal choice. Thank you so much for the comment.

[@robinmyman]

Allen Hart why Ideal over Worcester Bosch...does the latter fail more than the Ideal? Hope you are right. 😀

[@slider3215]

Doesnt matter what make boiler the auto air vent always leak...........eventually

[@AllenHart999]

Absolutely, Wasn’t blaming boiler. 👍

[@johnburns4017]

They do not leak if you tighten the cap. The cap is not meant to be left loose. It is for filling purposes only.

[@timhancock6626]

@@johnburns4017 Not if you read the manufacturers instructions. They always say leave it open. I was reading one this very morning....but yes, they all leak sooner or later and tightening them down is a solution only because it's the only alternative.

[@teecee90]

I really cant see how plastic can be more reliable than brass.....

[@AllenHart999]

I agree 👍

[@accesszero4803]

All the plastic on the ideals are made by grunfoss, they say they are tested against the brass and the plastic comes on top . But worchester prob the same and look at the state of them😂

[@teecee90]

And guess what .....plastic is cheaper than brass! Strange that.....

[@01plumberman]

teecee90 it’s lighter too making it easier for installers to lift. The diverter on the plastic water set is also a paddle type which does not leak, unlike the brass models that have 0 rings that can leak and do.

[@mikebarron4929]

Allen you better watch ,any more comments about dodgy worcester plastics and they will be offering you a backhanded to keep you quiet😁👍👍

[@AllenHart999]

Michael Barron Honest review and honest opinions, hopefully they will not sue me 🙀🙀🙀

[@robinmyman]

😂😂😂

[@Music-gw3te]

♥Allen Hart

[@AllenHart999]

❤

[@johnburns4017]

Allen, Those appalling installs on your other vids. I am sure the men who put them in charged for it. Rogue installers.

[@AllenHart999]

How do my jobs compare lol.😂😂😂😂

[@johnburns4017]

@@AllenHart999 😂😂

[@AllenHart999]

@@johnburns4017 I know you are warming to me now😂😂😂😂Might even do an intergas video soon. 👍

[@justintheplumber100]

Super boiler

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks

[@SuperWayneyb]

👍🤓👍🍰

[@AllenHart999]

You like the vogue don’t you 😂❤👍

[@SuperWayneyb]

Allen Hart I love em, I cant remember how to clear the fault codes, but i love em 👍😂👍🍰

[@AllenHart999]

@@SuperWayneyb 😂😂😂😂😂

[@maxnavsa4470]

The name Ideal sends shivers down the back of my spine. I had 8 years of hell from this company. Wouldn't have one for free. Worst customer service ever. Don't say I haven't earned you.

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@superwhites5870]

max navsa what boiler was it you had the bad experience with

[@SalimKhan-gk1fh]

max navsa In all honesty they are not too bad these days max were you thinking of the ideal eyesore!?

[@jaimeclifton9078]

I once fitted them for about 5 years and had nothing but trouble with their customer service too.... Logics are middle of the road, not bad for the money, plenty of issues. Vogues are decent boilers....

[@hughblount1983]

As soon as I saw the cover off and that it had been leaking decided IDEAL is not gonna be my next boiler

[@frankbowkett8306]

i'll just close the auto airvent..lmfao..

[@AllenHart999]

👍👍👍

[@bernard1772]

Ideal are a poor man's Baxi tell them the truth Alan!!!!

[@AllenHart999]

Ideal vogue is a great boiler👍

[@bernard1772]

Ideal are sending you iceland vouchers to promote there shitty product mate tell the truth....

[@AllenHart999]

Bernard Flanagan 😂😂😂😂

[@AllenHart999]

@@bernard1772 I cannot say much bad stuff about the Vogue. Thanks.

[@ArksE8]

Allen the dislike bellend has gone bed I think 🤷🏻‍♂️😂😂

[@AllenHart999]

Ha Ha, Might be getting bored 😂😂😂👍

[@ML-lg4ky]

Junk.

[@AllenHart999]

Why? Thanks.

[@AllenHart999]

Hi Pittbull, Why do you say that? What don’t you like about them? Thanks.👍

[@ML-lg4ky]

Allen Hart I think for the kind of money that people pay for their heating equipment they should employ a company who stands behind their product from day 1 until day 5000. Companies who train their staff constantly and maintain a healthy stock of parts. Viesemann is such a company.