Identifying the Mother Wound, Stuck Emotions, Trapped Trauma AND MORE! With Elizabeth Clark

[@astrologic3332]

Although not a certified psychologist, Michael Tsarion goes deeper on the mother issue than anyone I've ever heard. His books "Dragon Mother" and "Adultism" are a beacon of innerstanding mother archetypal trauma related to recent and ancient history (because you can't compartmentalize the two and expect to address the problem realistically or holistically.)

[@andreaandrea6716]

(41:39) Oh! I beg to differ! I was born in England and my father had left us to come back to the States. I ABSOLUTELY have a HUGE Father wound and issues around ABANDONMENT. So, the Father connection is VERY VERY important. And men NEED TO KNOW THIS!!! When I did re-birthing, what came up was this HUGE grief over his not being there AND, I KNEW he wasn't just 'not in the room' but actually 'on another continent.' I realize that I am carrying my mother's grief at his not being there, but also my own. It has deeply affected my life. Oh, and I have had horrific problems with my teeth. (I have Capricorn on the mid-heaven and Saturn, in Sagg, is the highest planet in my chart).

[@Chapps1941]

I agree. My mutha was a SMEO but she wouldn't have done that if the sperm-donor hadn't of left her or so I delude myself into thinking. I've had those abandonment issues from all 3 parents. And astrological readings should attribute energy, good n bad, to both parents, gender or sexes. I also have teeth issues as my Sun and Asc are ♋ and my Saturn is conjunct the Dsc. That Saturn on my ♑ Dsc has been very charming; not. Women run from as soon as they detect more than 2 molecules of desire from me. I feel l have to apologise for my feelings. And that's because the alleged mutha didn't love me. It was more important to get money for sexual favours. I live in hope that one a woman will find me interesting. I couldn't get a relationship even if l was the only man in a 1,000 strong harem. Overall its good.

[@marilynzeinel-abidin1027]

The Body Code addresses this too. Great subject

[@mabeaute8963]

Is that a book?

[@MultiMakiah]

@@mabeaute8963yes, there’s Emotion code, Body Code and Belief Code

[@sashal.n9454]

I love this duo!!!

[@BeWellwithT]

I am SO glad you mentioned parasites! I’m a Pisces rising. And once I found out about them, I started treating immediately. Still treating after almost 9 months. Found two different types in my period blood! Castor oil pills, frozen and taken at night, cleaned me out! Even reversed my periods to come at the new moon instead of full moon. No more heavy periods like I was having ❤

[@BeWellwithT]

About the mother versus father wound, I’ve always felt both a lack of worthiness, and fear. I feel like I’ve had both wounds. But now that I have healed and learned to separate from my mother, I have learned to love my period and the information it brings me (rather than hating it like I used to and how my mom used to hate her period), and I’m teaching my daughter that it can be a gift and insightful, Now I’m working on my happiness and worthiness (Leo sun- and my heart has been feeling a certain way- like it hurts) and I had a weird dream that I was behind the sun actually running it- like it was a machine at the fair- like a ride. It was performing for everyone else to enjoy- but I was on the opposite side of it holding on for dear life and it was old and rickety like an old ride at the fair that needs to retire. Since I am a Pisces rising and in Saturn 1st house- I felt like the dream was telling me that it’s ok to stop holding on so tight and to fly. Really deep considering I never remember my dreams. ❤

[@patriciakendall6494]

Root canals themselves trigger body trauma and illnesses. Each tooth is associated to specific organs

[@adriennep15]

This workshop is going to be amazing 💖

[@LailaLailaLailah]

Fascinated, flabbergasted, and triggered AF lol. What an educational segment, thank you so much. You ladies are true leaders in the astrological space

[@AstrologywithHeather]

Awe thank you so much!!!! I really appreciate the feedback and I'm so glad you enjoyed our collaboration!

[@bam1179]

This was really interesting ladies, thank you

[@roguereemerged]

Just signed up for the class, super excited!!

[@michellemightysparrow9587]

This is super facinating to me. My mother was very young when I was born and my parents had a nasty divorce when I was very young. I had unusual periods and lots of ovarian cysts when I was in high school but then when i left home right after graduating my menstral cycles were mostly normal and I havn't had a cyst since then. I had one pregnancy in mid 20's and it was healthly with an easy delivery. Then duing my saturn return mid 30's my mother betrayed me in the worst way imaginable. I fell into a deep depression incuding difficult periods until I went into therapy and from that started spiritual practises, my periods have since been fine. Although my mother and I are on speaking terms and I have done alot of shadow work we have never spoken about trauma or wounds. we are corigical while knowing there is so much trauma between us. I am healthy with bouts of anxiety here and there and I often wonder is this it? Is this the purpose of all of the past , present and future? is there more I should be doing for the relationship or is simply focusing on my own health enough to fufull the purpose of having a mother and being a daughter ...

[@brittacarlisle9336]

I can’t wait for the training ✨

[@waywardmuse]

What a great vid! I could really relate and see the mother wound vividly in my chart and my life. I didn’t know what PCOS was so I looked it up. I had that from age 16 into my early 20s but they didn’t call it that. I had surgeries related to both my reproductive organs and bladder. When I got married at 18, I had a couple of years of nonstop bladder infections. Of course that was triggered by my elopement - 1st separation from my mother after birth! Then I learned that a later complication from PCOS can be nonalcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH) and I’m in the middle of that right now! I also wanted to mentioned the “father wound”. My parents divorced when I was 13 and that was a major trauma for me - so much so that in graduate school in Developmental Psychology I did a research paper on father absence. Interestingly, I found that girls whose fathers are absent due to death are prone to self-imposed isolation and frigidity but those who have issues with father absence due to divorce tend to be promiscuous even if they do not enjoy it. That was me for a time as well. Now I’m wondering if the father wound could also affect or occur at the same time as the mother wound during birth. My birth was very traumatic for me and my mother - we nearly died. At one time during the event, the doctor pulled my father aside and made him choose whose life he wanted to preserve if they could only save one. (This was 1956). Of course he chose my mother, but I wonder if my soul somehow picked up on that too and was affected by it? At any rate, my transpluto is in the 4th house conjunct Pluto in the 5th house which is opposed to my Sun. How’s that for synchronicity! I’m looking forward to learning more about all this at the workshop. Thanks!

[@juraliu]

Interesting.. As a mother I felt like my body was hijacked during pregnancy .. I wasn’t feeling like myself. Focus was not me, it was what’s the best for the baby.

[@kathleendonahue5955]

Absolutely that comes naturally, but it’s also the only thing that is importantnot only in your eyes, yikes, the pressure I remember it well.

[@astrologic3332]

Very fascinating. This is the issue I have with dowsing pendulums. "Yes" or "no" too limited a paradigm. Too dualistic for what needs multitudinous answers. Plus I've found that if you're even a little bit capable of directing your own prana you can make the pendulum give a yes or no answer without even posing a question but by will alone. Very intriguing. The body is the dowsing pendulum... which I'm sure comes with it's own troubleshooting issues, but fascinating all the same. Thank you.

[@theresalee9392]

Oh, you are answering my question two minutes later ! This is excellent! Thank you!

[@heathermcclelland4857]

Thank you both fascinating stuff ❤

[@madamdevilish]

That explains why if someone has a transplant the emotions get stuck in the organ that's transferred to a new recipient. Have psos but was dad that was really critical she was basically raised alone so couldn't interact . Thanks for this explains alot even my son has hole in heart ❤️ which I true for farther of child

[@kathleendonahue5955]

I wasn’t thinking about the father wound until you brought it up. At the end of everything you said about mother’s it only makes me feel sad. I have so many stories about the children’s father. Life isn’t fair. I never expected it to be, but I’m grateful that I was able to become a mom. I feel like it was the best thing ever in my life so it hurts me to think that I’ve hurt my children. I’m sure I have in ways that I don’t even know😢 I have so many personal stories well growing up that I thought it was my father that hurt me most but for sure both and now is Mom I see my husband was able to enjoy life while raising our children in a way I never could. I was diagnosed with a chronic illness three months after my first child. I can’t wait for the workshop as I was a massage therapist and I have taken Heather‘s medical astrology course. I understand a lot about referred pain but I don’t know how to do muscle testing.

[@charmc4152]

It makes sense that a "father wound" could be viewed as more removed unless you are seeing a heart issue come into play. Even in the act of conception where a baby is produced, the father has to enter into the mother's body, and he brings the catalyst that sets everything in motion, but the egg contributed by the mother has been within her body since her own infancy. The mother has held the child close within her, in a sense, even before the child began the process of differentiation into a whole new person after conception. And then, once you get to the point of birth, everything else you said would apply relative to the father's role. It's also interesting to consider from the perspective of IVF and in the context of IVF with a biological father and with someone who is only a sperm donor and whether, energetically, that has any impact even on a subconscious level for a person. I think from the point of view of science, it's (IVF) probably been viewed primarily from the perspective of, "Did conception result for the person/people wanting a pregnancy?" If conception did occur, mission accomplished. But the whole mother/father wound gets even more complicated in a very literal sense when you bring in survivors of abortion, frozen embryos, and lab-grown babies that a company (Germany?) is in the process of establishing. Babies are grown in artificial wombs, and the parents can monitor their development via smartphone app. That's the short version. But just as a cesarean section, deprives a newborn of beneficial bacteria that would otherwise be acquired by going through the birth canal, it's unsettling to think of the things we don't know about that occur in the womb that are important to fetal development that are subtle and will be unknowable until we see if there are manifestations of behaviors or characteristics that were uncommon until lab-created babies were a part of the landscape of humanity. #DeepThoughts

[@Benni777]

This was a great primer for those like me who can’t afford the whole course. What I’ve found interesting from reading my own natal chart along with my parents’ charts is that, as someone who has an Aqua moon, I am way more attached and attuned to my father, who’s an Aquarius sun and Mercury. But the crazy thing is, is that his Saturn is in Aries in the 1st house [I have an Aries sun]; his rising is in Pisces at 29 degrees 37,’ and his own moon is in Sag, 9thH, at 27 degrees, 54.’ He is more like a mentor to me, but in the most loving way possible. My mother once other hand, is very clingy, bc her suns in Cancer, and she was born right before a New Moon in Cancer as well, so she wants to spend more time with me, bc I’m “her baby,” but I don’t really feel any of the same feelings as I do with my dad. To get a little personal, my dad was the very first person to hold me and to cut the cord, too. As soon as I told that and recognized what that really meant, I was like, “no wonder I’m closer to him!” I couldn’t have been breast fed bc my mom was on some medication to help w her epilepsy. It’s insane what astrology can teach us! I’m not totally into this type of astrology, it’s not my personal cup of tea, however, I am into ancestral astrology! Thank u so much for giving us this glimpse into this field of astrology! Can’t wait for ur next vid! ☺️

[@wavingcat5]

I had an existentially traumatic time bringing my beautiful kids into the world. I became very limited, my struggle was very Saturnian. They both have a Cancer moon and my Saturn is in Cancer. Also, one of them has Saturn also in Cancer, and the other has Saturn in Virgo - in my 1st house. He is also Cancer rising so my Saturn overlaps his 1st house. I witness and feel how my trauma patterns affect and are passed to them - it is painful that I can’t prevent it. They also each have their Mars perfectly conjunct their IC (one in the 5th house, one in the 3rd house). I feel like there’s a big story there and kind of dread what they might face. Gee it’s emotionally hard learning astrology and then looking at your kids’ charts. And yet it’s also incredibly valuable.

[@misssunshinea6602]

Uff. Just was trapped in mother wound pain.. ❤❤ you are on time. Meditated and cleansed. Ready to listen. 😊

[@Lalllly1]

So excited for this workshop! I’ve had a major medical shift after starting pelvic therapy recently after over a decade of seeking answers to myriads of medical maladies… I’m also trying to incorporate medical astrology into my massage practice as well as a creative project about my maternal lineage … literally could not have come at a better time :) so excited! Sea

[@Lalllly1]

Pelvic floor therapy*

[@anamacklis2355]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@scarrie54]

Yes, so true! My moon at 29 Scorpio sits right on my IC square Pluto in the 12th. Very painful and a lifetime of healing. I just joined❤

[@scarrie54]

I’ve noticed that some men who were terribly abused by their father harbor anger at their mothers and women but so much the father.

[@Chapps1941]

​@@scarrie54l fell out of love with my alleged mutha aged 8; her life as a Sex Money Exchange Operative did it for me plus she hitched to an abusive tyrant bisexual depravitive. (♋ Sun & Asc, ♒ Moon - crazy blend). I hated and was cold to her. I've never been loved by a woman in a real way despite me thinking women are wonderful. I'm still to experience a ONS.. My youngest brother, on the other hand, loved her and has grown up to be a misogynist None of us 6 siblings went to her funeral

[@annvanhecke4871]

I believe that the blokkages in the body are a result of emotional trauma in THIS life. It's true that we pick up unresolved issues from our parents too, and it starts in the womb because a baby is completely open. But what I don't understand is that reprogramming the brain could resolve everything. Were are primeraly beings that are able to FEEL. We have a HEART...And blokkages in the body occur when the feelings weren't allowed to express themselves, the bodily sensations oppressed because no one was available for us or really present in traumatic situations. Different techniques can give temporary relief to the stress that is stored up in the body...but eventually we will have to go through the motions and accept all our feelings, even if we don't get where they are coming from

[@michellejohnson8201]

I've realized, especially as my daughter is getting older, that what I thought was a mother wound is actually a father wound. My mom was somewhat critical, but as our relationship shifts, I'm noticing how my dad was actually the critical one who used love conditionally. (As I perceived it). My mom is the one worried about my physical and mental health, while my dad is questioning if I'm actually working hard enough. I don't have any point to make with that, I just wanted to share 😉

[@christinadm9277]

I have my moon in Aquarius 4th house, as well as my south node. I have significant mother wounds. I was born by c-section (which I’m surprised you didn’t talk about), I was born with a cleft lip, and my mother abandoned me at the age of 9 (around the time of my half-nodal return) tossing me into a depression that I have been battling with ever since. Now as an adult I suffer from chronic pain, particularly in my hips and thighs, as well as weak pelvic floor issues and have had irritable bladder since my teen years. I also had an irritable uterus during pregnancy.

[@madamdevilish]

@@christinadm9277 somatic exercises could help get rid of the emotions stored in your hips

[@AstrologywithHeather]

Oh wow! I’m sorry you went through all of that and thank you for sharing… your experience and health issues make a lot of sense given what we we discussed in the video.

[@ratnakwok3972]

​@@AstrologywithHeather will the workshop providing the solution or suggestion to resolve the mother wounds detected from muscle testing and based on our chart? Thanks, Heather ❤ Grateful to be one of your student at CAA ❤

[@aineLynam]

chiron conjunct my sun 1st house. Given up at birth and later adopted. Chiron return currently so hoping body pain can heal. Thanks for this. X

[@deegallagher7998]

I got Pluto in Scorpio in the 4th house, moon in Pisces in the 8th, any insights? 🙏🏻

[@patriciakendall6494]

It's not the brain organ answering the questions it's the higher consciousness which is not part of the physical brain but is part of the quantum unified field ❤

[@theanadevine]

The relative weights of mother wound and father wound are highly culturally proscribed.

[@lindsaybaird509]

When I try to download the reference guide, I get this error. Page not found The page you are looking for doesn't exist or has been moved.

[@AstrologywithHeather]

That is so weird because the link works perfectly fine on all of my browsers and devices, but you’re the third person to tell me today that the link isn’t working. Here it is again: www.astrologywithheather.com/medical-astrology-101-guide

[@Stacy-360]

I was born breech (feet first) with a facial disfigurement.we are both Scorpio asc and Leo Moons. I have Neptune in 1st house. I have reproductive issues that involve my hypothalamus and pituitary gland. I wish I could afford to take this class. My mother and I haven’t spoken in almost fourteen years. I’m 58.

[@marilynzeinel-abidin1027]

8th house moon - lots if that. Did a lot of healing through Body Code but this is also super intriguing! Will it be recorded? I have plans on the 29th but very much want this course

[@belleofthecamp6530]

For me I have the emotional dissonance as a mother wound. Meaning I felt like a foreign object in her womb.

[@Chapps1941]

45:15 Leo women exist in 3 states: #1: Going to the hairdresser #2: Being at the hairdresser #3: Coming from the hairdresser Whereas Aquarius women actually have the best hair. Aquarius men have "Professor Hair". Leo men have a vanity about their hair

[@theresalee9392]

What about the mom’s emotion when the baby is whisked away with a nurse??? Same emotion?

[@HAnn1303]

So in regards to the reproductive organs and that area of the body;; can the mother wound play a part in like inheritance of experiencing very uncomfortable painful monthly menstruation symptoms. My mother always had issues with her period, which she passed on to me, and now my daughter is also dealing with the exact same thing.

[@laradiantrr9357]

Yes, indeed it can, and it is great you have already acknowledged that it is part of what you know in your heart is what needs to be consciously healed.

[@cocofrog1976]

Welp, Chiron in Taurus 1st degree 4th house for me. That explains a lot.

[@theanadevine]

I hope there’s less polite / stress laughter in the workshop - I appreciate and respect both of you, and it’s really off-putting and distracting to hear laughter in response or in communication of very serious and/or truly unfunny topics. My brain gets so sidetracked.

[@serenadevon]

😂😂

[@consuelonavarrohidalgo5334]

I don't know if it's mr but I can't hear anything.

[@bernadettehowell5757]

Very good subject When I was a little girl 6789 10/11 My mother and I would always argue The argument would always stop When I would say Then why did you have me My mother wouldn't say nothing else That was the end of the arguments. By me saying that My mother do not hide the way she feel about me Danger danger danger I stopped arguing with her when I became a teenager I got into astrology at 13 it's therapy to me and a peace of mind Daddy was the biggest lier I can't believe nothing he said especially when he got caught in his lies 😂😂😂😂 What it is is what it is. With them two I'm just glad I'm not like that I'm very good at distant myself away from certain type of people nauseous and haters By the way I did have kidney problems when I was a child✌️

[@Chapps1941]

I have a 1H Sun opposite 7H Moon T Squared by a 4H SD Neptune. Neptune's square to the Moon is greater than to the Sun. My conception forced a shotgun wedding. After the wedding ceremony she had intercourse with another man. I later told my brother's I was only 50mm from the _action_ I have all those ailments mentioned at 4:30 My ♋ Sun and Ascendant and my out of sign Moon (♒) is in opposition to my Sun. My Chiron in ♒ is conjunct her Ascendant.

[@astrologic3332]

I have a theory about parasites that I may or may not ever be able to prove in this life. There appears to me to be a correlation between physical parasites and aetheric parasites, i.e what some might call "Macrobes," potentially even "Archons," e.g. the trickster beings often reported in entheogen experiences that seem to have some objective basis in corresponding or evening matching experiences. This planet does have a major 8th Sphere/lower astral parasite issue after all... and these things usually, if not always work on multiple levels simultaneously.

[@andreawillis-bh1wl]

Red Nex, no baths, no babies, cotton eye Joe,🤪

[@astrologic3332]

@@andreawillis-bh1wl umm... Cottoneyed no...

[@andreawillis-bh1wl]

@@astrologic3332 te laaaat 🤪

[@andreawillis-bh1wl]

Die kinders wil alles he om hulle Tong uitsteek net sooa hulle ma

[@astrologic3332]

@@andreawillis-bh1wl is this supposed to some sort of wisdomless Pinterest bitchcraft or something...? 🙄

[@FeminineRose]

❤❤❤

[@lolitalolipops4154]

Saturn in the 4th house in leo .I have some serious karma w my mother

[@karmas8864]

Audio is fine for me. Merc R strikes again?

[@amandarichwalski2552]

Hmm, I wonder if it’s smart to do this if there was a super traumatic birth, like c-section and then given up for adoption 2 days later.

[@cindykerbrat2976]

Interesting, I think the correlation between father wound is more in the male child rather than the female child. Perhaps that is why you get little interactions when you post about the father wound, as your followers are female based. ?

[@AdrianaJSC11]

Too many “likes”