IDF vs Army Knife Fight

a short clip from the new ultimate soldier show on history channel

[@Saint-Johnn]

the biggest rule of knife fights, is do not get into a knife fight, you will get cut no matter what

[@ArcticGator]

+Darwin Helton i like how they square up like boxers and think they can both stand there and trade blows with knives, if you look at any old fighting techniques from spain, germany, or indonesia or japan all of them have specific stances that reduce the likelihood of an enemy planting a blade in you.

[@keeperkai999]

The biggest rule of knife fights is to bring a gun, the biggest rule of a gun fight is to send in drones...then you won't get cut :P

[@mistervanwyk7405]

That leave bad scars I got stabbed in an home invasion when I was 19 years old... 10 inches from my genitals hahaha lucky I was that I didn't ended up castrated.. it was a big kitchen knife and it kinda got stuck in my sweatshirt and my friend finally came to help me. I pushed my thumb in his eye socket with all my finger on the back of his head and punched him with my right hand.. I noticed that I was bleeding a lot just after getting out of there... got a 4 years sentence for that

[@Ceez542]

Hail the Order1488 So he broke into your house, beat the shit out of him, then went to prison?

[@mistervanwyk7405]

Cesar 2 The opposite... That guy stolen some stuff from me and the "friend" accompanying me..

[@JonSmith-cx7gr]

Pretty good. But now lets see a spoon fight. It takes a real man to fight with a spoon.

[@TheMMATron]

I see you've played spoony knifey before.

[@monthrax530]

Mark Swanson Damnit I wanted to say that :P

[@LikuidINK]

Mark Swanson I just wanted to let you know that I laughed for about 5 minutes at this. Completely forgot this quote. Thank you sir!

[@tomjackson2151]

Jon Smith I agree, only real men fight with spoons.

[@emiliodibenedetto4654]

Jon Smith The thought of dueling with spoons made me chuckle. Thank you for that.

[@MrQuijibo]

My granddad told me that in WW2 you could identify the enemy very easily by their behavior. If you were met with disciplined rifle fire it was Brits, if it was artillery then you had ran into Americans, if it was heavy machine gun fire you had finally found some Germans. This was almost 80 years ago. So, if you are head to head with a knife wielding enemy something has gone horribly, horribly wrong and you should use the almost 100% reliable, time tested counter to any opponent wielding a knife, and that is a good pair of Nikes.

[@Jack_The_Ripperr]

Damn. Great analyses

[@dragonel88]

It sounds like your granddad never met katana wielding enemy in ww2

[@markoseries]

Adidas do the trick too.

[@coryc1904]

Wall Mart shoes are doing the trick Too

[@MrMexicansteve]

American here and yes I was Artillery 13F.

[@theoriginaljackal8196]

I've been in the Army 12 years and have never been taught knife fighting or any type of martial arts.

[@harvestcanada]

And that's because you walloped donkeys for the rest of your career.

[@tawmifm]

I think that guy was a Ranger.

[@goldmanshekelstein2161]

The only relevant training you do in the Army with blades are: bayonet course in BCT, mowing lawns, or running back to the barracks with fixed bayonets after a Division review.

[@alonhaivatov3206]

i was in the israeli special forces and they only teach us to defense knife and not to use one....

[@dakotagau]

That's because typically you're shooting from afar. And when you must melee, you buttstroke or use a gun mounted bayonet.

[@bradleysmith4630]

You can never simulate a life or death scenario. One stab to the chest could bring you right down. What we learned here is fight with your blade forward

[@retroderzauberer4020]

very unlikely one stab will instantly bring you down. In a knife fight ur so full of adrenalline, that u dont even notice u have been stabbed or cut until the fight is over

[@kpsiex]

no it wouldn't. i've been in knife fights before and you put your left forearm over your stomach to not get disemboweled

[@jakubpolzer8817]

Im sure those cuts from the idf guy would be serious enough but with all the adrenaline pumping those stabs are what really matters

[@PatRiot-]

@@kpsiex this checks out……..

[@kpsiex]

@@PatRiot- yes, i've recently found out that it's also shown in medieval combat manuals, it is a technique that was used by unarmored warriors

[@jnrchibelle7932]

Soldiers: Easy peezy John Wick: Hold my pencil

[@humanoid2423]

Say no more

[@stillshakes5499]

The ice pick grip will always be inferior to the saber grip in a knife fight. You simply lose distance. An ice pick grip is great if you are trying to take down an opponent who isn't aware, or is not armed with a blade at the ready, but it a knife duel a saber grip will always be superior.

[@aridicaexmontaudon1296]

Ice pick is good for power, say to get through clothes/armor what have you,

[@yeentem1570]

@@aridicaexmontaudon1296 a screwdriver can penetrate clothes without much effort, a knife wont have a problem. Plates and knife protective vests will be an issue, but thats only on the torso, plenty of areas to go for. Ice pick wont get through stab resistent vests either. Its objectively inferior in 99% of situations.

[@anonymousloner3396]

It really depends on your fighting style no matter what form of fighting you do one way won't be superior or inferior to everyone

[@Dav624]

My guy u actually ain't wrong

[@overclucker]

​@@anonymousloner3396 Very true. It also has to do with aptitude. Some people can just make things work.

[@SKgyebaek]

bad matchup. US army and IDF are not taught specific knife combat drills. Its only the higher tier special forces that get that kind of training.

[@007kuntasod]

Combat Edits does not mean US troops can't have classes outside base.

[@ironfae]

Not entirely true. The Green Barrettes and IDF combat elite DO learn knife fighting. This show just didn’t cover the specifics of the guys involved.

[@lunaticfae4415]

@@millertime7891 i know im really late here but in the idf they have a 2 weeks of krav maga training. Its more meant to teach an agressive mentality than any real empty handed or melee fighting skills

[@microwave4928]

And yet he still beat the shit out of the idf guy

[@joshycasuga2555]

Agree

[@peacefuljeffrey]

Notice how Ben quickly switched from ice-pick grip to Aaron's saber grip. That should tell you something.

[@santostroncoso4174]

Yeah ice pick grip is more for trapping a opponent

[@batissta44]

@@santostroncoso4174 trapping? What does that mean and why cant you "trap" your opponent while holding the knife in hammer grip?

[@Siphx_n]

@@batissta44 manipulation, you can use the blade as an anchor to bend your opponent and control, like karambit training, but im not sure why he'd do that in a competition like this tbh.

[@josuea.v.4232]

No it doesn't.... that guy barely knows how to fight and he actually did the slashes with the ice-pick grip.... that should tell you something.

[@Siphx_n]

@@josuea.v.4232 tell you what exactly

[@dwh5512]

In my Marine Corps training the instructors ALWAYS said never hold a knife like the IDF soldier did here. NEVER HOLD A KNIFE LIKE THAT!

[@dedeme6817]

Why shouldn't you.

[@mrkiky]

+dedeme Less range and your hand is more exposed, just off the top of my head. Maybe it's ok to hold it like that , but not against another guy with a knife.

[@dedeme6817]

yea but he is idf. the most feared special operations forces in the world. why would a member be holding it wrong.

[@dedeme6817]

thank you for the information and service.

[@dwh5512]

The proof is in the pudding: Army 1 IDF 0 Yep he was holding the knife wrong. BTW US troops are THE BEST trained, bar none!

[@Redbeard.Combatives]

Most training knife fights descend into a game of tag. Proper knife fighting involves using all your tools, punches, kicks, clinches, etc

[@EthansElement]

If your kick in a knife fight... you are hands down a fucking idiot. In a knife fight, you should be using feints and swift footwork to create and then exploit openings in your opponents defence. Kicks are so easy to counter, it's stupidly risky to use them in a knife fight unless you have physical control of the enemy's weapon/weapon hand. Put him in a clinch and he'll stab you in the side, stomach, everywhere you're open. If he is quick stab you before you get the clinch on. Why punch when you have a knife to stab? Do you even know what you're talking about?Your free hand should be kept out of the way until you counter to gain control of the opponent's weapon.

[@Redbeard.Combatives]

RogueSmurfz lol

[@Userius1]

+RogueSmurfz Please tell me how kicks are so easy to counter when I could do 1000x2 (each leg) in 20 minutes time at around 2-3 kicks per second without losing focus.

[@Userius1]

+RogueSmurfz Who says I would do a roundhouse kick? I make my kicks direct and sudden. What makes you think your knife is faster than my kicks? In a fight like that you'd likely be using low kicks to begin with. I'm not saying that kicks are the most practical thing in a knife fight, but you sound like you're dismissing them altogether from everything the way you phrased your comment. Let's say it this way: weapon>kick>punch.

[@EthansElement]

Direct and sudden like what? A front kick? Or a side kick? Both easily dismissible in a knife fight, they aren't hard to dodge, especially if thrown above the waist. But no, in no way did I dismiss kicks altogether, they can be a useful tool in an encounter, especially kicks kept below the waist. (Your comment about my hands/knife possibly not being faster than your kicks is a bit of a joke). Your combo 'weapon>kick>punch isn't bad, but it would only work once if that is all you have in your combo. Maybe you are fast with your legs, but how is your hand work? And your foot work? If your hand work is slow, its easy to work angles to counter, you may not get time to get your kick in. If you are quick all around good for you, but if my defence is better I just have to get your pattern and exploit it. Everybody has a pattern, everyone has an idiosyncrasy that telegraphs their next move, even if it is small.

[@GuroBillyBrown]

LOL.. Those that always think that JUST because they are military they MUSt know how to knife fight.. Well, this is not the case!

[@honestdave]

its just a training thing for the show. that's it nothing more nothing less they both put their all into it though and I think we can be happy with that

[@GuroBillyBrown]

Yeah. They put their all. That's Awesome. My point though was about the poor training our military receives.. and I work with military on a weekly basis, so I know this to be true..

[@honestdave]

Well I'm not doubting you. I wasn't able to get into the military because of a birth deformity so I wouldn't know

[@Philocyb1n]

oh you must have some knife tips to share?

[@GuroBillyBrown]

Phillip Helgren go to my page, there are 100s of videos. Also visit www.ProActionVideos.com..

[@25137130]

so many keyboard warriors..................................... so so so many keyboard warriors ...............................................

[@mamertorelativojr6351]

Yet these two guys are impressive

[@boogisan]

**cheers** :)

[@luminate4419]

black belt in key board judo.

[@ms.ladybug6186]

+Peaceful Vibe ctfu..... keyboard judo😂😂😂

[@AndHesNameIsJohnCena]

But there are no keyboard archers and mages

[@micknelson8991]

"The knife is not a fighting or dueling weapon. It is a murder/Finishing weapon. 9 times out of ten, both men die." YES!!! In my brief 35 years behind a badge, I have actually seen a fella win a gunfight with a knife. Don't bring that knife within 30' of me! I know a little about edged weapons but I know a LOT with a handgun! Mick A27257

[@Militarycollector]

That’s it just 35 years..!

[@cottonpatch2000]

What about throwing knives? I've always wondered if it's like the movies and those could be that accurate.

[@aminekh698]

Stab Vs slash STAB wins

[@free00to00ryhme]

just like shot placement, it depends on where you get slashed, and where you get stabbed.

[@Dovahkiin069Nighfury]

Most of the time, yes. But only until an opponent gets slashed into the lined vital points that can disable them due to blood loss. That is if the slasher has a good defense and keeps their distance.

[@nickgfgfgf4790]

Of corse. Knife is not a sword a lot of so called "martial artists" forget about that. There''s a reason whyt most combat knives are not very sharp and also they are made from spring steel (that will loose sharpness very quickly). Plus - best combat knife is a dagger - not so good for slashes, but devastating on stabs...

[@user-od3yt4tk6t]

@@free00to00ryhme The stab is quicker, and more precise. That's why the slash is easier to dodge and block/counter. The slash also leads to over commitment, making it WAY easier to counter

[@joelschmierer3544]

the backslash grip is easier to counter by lunging at the attacker and grabbing and holding the attacker's forearm in a C-grip while attacking the attacker with the other hand, but forward stabs and slashes need to be parried by watching for them and then deflecting them away from your body with your open hand and then you counterattack with your other hand, but unless you want a mutual death, the first step is to do very fast jab slashes to the attacker's knife hand while dancing around to the outside of the attacker to keep distance and outflank them

[@pepecohetes492]

"Let's play a game...death by teacup..."

[@BobBob-bn5jc]

+pepe cohetes This ain't prison, and I don't see any furians.

[@metalandproud2126]

They can have the fights in England.

[@TheKillaMethod]

all the men in this comp vs Riddick. whos the better killer

[@Ham-pb7pb]

I’m so good at knife fighting that I’ve never been in a knife fight

[@norightturn7047]

I'm pretty sure the guy with a gun would win in a knife fight. Indiana Jones already proved that one.

[@bigchunk1]

Jamie Pinson Watch the video about the 21 foot rule. A knife is a pretty deadly weapon in the right hands.

[@trollcontrol1696]

Gun doesn't always win

[@crazsniipezv3532]

+Jamie Pinson in CQC a knife always wins.

[@pob1501]

Imagine if he just threw it really hard at his heart

[@jameswhitney259]

I've always favoured a knife forward grip than the reverse grip.

[@pepecohetes492]

Most commandos worth their weight will never fight with a knife, in fact will avoid any hand to hand situation. If it happens it means one is out of ammo or the shit hit the fan!

[@microwave4928]

Yeah ? You in the army ?

[@thomasluck5955]

The army teaches us that every fight is for control of a weapon

[@zupergozer]

Always like to see a good knife fight

[@dondee500k]

It's been my experience that only one person walks away from a knife fight. These simulations are entertaining but doesn't test a man's true metal. If you know you don't have much chance of really getting hurt, you won't go as hard as you would if your life was at risk.

[@jonathanctay7422]

Interestingly the video that led me to this one is of a British WW2 veteran speaking about how to use the Fairbarn Sykes fighting knife. He explicitly says, at least in regards to that particular knife, to never hold it in reverse.

[@Kaydje]

After messing around with fake knives and play-fighting as a kid with sticks and paintbrushes I've found that wielding your knife like a fencer (leading hand holds the knife) is the most superior way to "knife fight". You don't really need the power of cocking up a power hand to the rear, you have the ability to just wave that shit around to deter/attack fingers, your weapon is closer to your target, etc.

[@kcvanderpool]

Yeah that's very true. Also, don't square up like these guys. Stand slightly sideways (but not all the way). Keep knife point directed at opponent at all times. A few inches of reach works wonders. If they're taller than you, if at all possible put as little distance as is safe between, making it harder for your opponent to maneuver. If they're shorter, keep your distance and use your reach advantage to the maximum potential. Also, don't cock back before the swing because either way you won't need TONS of force if stabbing into the abdomen. It just gives your opponent more time to react and counter you, leaving you VERY vulnerable. Pro-tips.

[@kpsiex]

@@kcvanderpool Left forearm should be over the stomach 99% of the time, this prevents getting disemboweled(this is how duels were won back in the day). you don't need counter balance because you shouldn't be power swinging, your tool is already sharp.

[@colinweir1501]

Most Kali instructors will tell you when you have a knife and your opponent has a knife the ice pick or reverse grip is not a good idea as the normal grip gives you more distance, if you are fighting some one who doesn't have a weapon or more than one opponent the reverse would be better because its harder for them to see exactly where your knife is I prefer striking with a back fist motion you get a lot of speed and can use all kinds of trapping moves, also with a normal grip its best to hold the knife with a fist grip because theirs a good chance your going to hit bone however after having said all this most top knife fighters well tell you to run like shit, even if you are very good your chances of getting hurt are great.

[@wiirus666]

Very well said!

[@colinweir1501]

Damian XX Damian thanks for the support mate all the best.

[@EnthusedPotatoes]

I always keep in mind the phrase 'Nobody wins a knife fight.';

[@colinweir1501]

Enthused_Llama Well put brother!

[@haurustrum5654]

yeah. idea is to make the other lose more.. and to keep your life. training 400m hurdles might work better for knives that actual edged training.

[@MANS4ON-Ce137]

nothing like a real knife fight..

[@Justintdot]

Please tell with your many experiences in knife fights

[@brycebilyeu5832]

***** right

[@SarethZhukov314]

What? Like a knife fight between two punk teenagers?

[@panduadikara9078]

OTF-jponz real knife fight is nothing like a choreographed fight. it is messy. all over the place. it's not even a fight imo since mostly it is one sided and ends in a matter of seconds, it's a knife attack, not a fight. no time for fancy technique, fancy moves or anything, it's just slice-stab-stab-stab and you're done.

[@sgspartan3353]

It's true. In a knife attack you might get stabbed 40 times in less than 30 seconds. Before you know it you are going to be dead. Real street fights never go slow. They end quick and fatally. It's not a movie set that we are gonna fight for 30 minutes when we know each other's attacks.

[@liftzeweights]

whiterun guard: i used to be a soldier like you. then i took a slash to the knee.

[@zachrfields]

Everything changes when real blades are used

[@ElessarEstel]

You know, I just got out of the Army, and I'm not totally sure that was an actual American soldier. That hair is way out of regs, and the 82nd likes their regs. I don't know if I believe this lol

[@joeyjones9041]

He had a goatee as well, mohawk would not fly at all lol

[@davefletch3063]

Maybe he is not active

[@ElessarEstel]

@@davefletch3063 he would still have to be in regulation when In uniform

[@ej6635]

RIP Mack, miss watching your content. Rest easy badass.

[@senseiJoshua]

Those where some clean forward stabs.

[@jeremyhndy]

I'm not really the patriotic type but the whole time I was chanting in my head USA USA.

[@johnwitte1676]

You are the patriotic type

[@xrege1266]

@@johnwitte1676 no

[@emanuelmaldoileacont8253]

How can you be patriotic with a land who was stolen miserably?

[@gunlover5564]

@@emanuelmaldoileacont8253 it’s ours now. It’s only yours if you can keep it 😁

[@ElessarEstel]

@@emanuelmaldoileacont8253 right. Cause every other land in world history was just handed over with a smile by it's former inhabitants. Welcome to Earth you leftist dip shit

[@CalebHigginbotham]

Starts to walk away... Holds eye contact... **THIS ISN’T OVER**

[@JoseMora-wc5zz]

This is hilarious lmao

[@idontplaygames1231]

His face even looks like the ct's face in dust II.

[@naydsoe27]

That dust pissed me off the most

[@rsagape7300]

Reverse grip versus saber grip. That never ends up well, I'm surprised this guy made such a poor choice for a knife duel.

[@aprestoargentino5695]

Here is a demonstration of Colombian Fencing vs Argentine Creole Fencing. Ice Pick grip can be very effective. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqu0p2yBq6-Boqs (Minute 0:40) look up for Xander Caslop. I would never go for an Ice Pick Grip like Xander Caslop because my knees are shit and I wouldn't be able to move like that. Creole Fencing would work better for me and it's a proven method as Gauchos actually dueled and killed each other fighting like this. I bet Colombian Fencing has a street fight background, so I would trust it a million times over what these two army guys are doing in the video.

[@nikolaizetrov617]

The airborne guy has a good type of hold with the knife pointing outward directly toward his target which gave him more speed and length advantage when attacking.The IDF guy on the other hand adapted a power grip type hold which is more suitable in stealthy/blindspot attack.

[@bruceleroy8063]

the takeaway if you're in a knife fight the wheels have come off

[@senorpoole3988]

“Just be wild and crazy, and scare him, just be bad ass” said every man who didn’t know how to fight ever lmaoooooooo

[@mightyoaks80]

Well he did win..

[@BigDaddyMe77]

AIRBORNE!!!!

[@JustAGuy85]

Guy in the green is holding his knife like on video games, or like the youtube kids tell you that you are supposed to hold it. And he lost.

[@davidm5853]

There are many ways to hold a knife... The IDF are trained in martial arts... WE ARE TRAINED TO WIN

[@dte8329]

Man, I'm goad you, and not the Israeli Defense operative, were on KZbin to show us all how to hold a knife.

[@konokiLuong]

Its a reverse grip those are actually very dangerous and can easily be cut with

[@odysseusnissan3646]

The reverse grip is what they taught us in Marine boot camp. They told us it was the easiest to learn as an amateur knife fighter. Later on in infantry training, my knife instructor taught us some more advanced attacks with a traditional grip. He vehemently explained to us that the best knife fighters switch grips and hands often, and to run for a better weapon if forced to encounter. But for you to compare the IDF bad ass to a video gamer/youtuber doesn't help your credibility.

[@darksoul1381]

there is actually a grip like that and it is idealfor striking down an opponent. Of course a gun should always be a primary weapon nearly at all times...

[@ant13665]

never kick in a knife fight. leaves your inner leg open.

[@CCPwillfall01]

This was no suprise.

[@khyoon14]

would love to see doug marcaida defeat these guys

[@Disasterbator]

+khyoon14 He's shit all over them.

[@jessejanzen1050]

damn they are huge.

[@maxmagnus777]

Just a bigger targets for bullets. I've heard that they use them nowadays...

[@greenbergassociation1369]

no one, i repeat, no one wins in a keyboard fight against me!

[@kaizen5023]

Reverse grip costs you a lot of reach which is critical in a knife fight, so I wasn't surprised at the outcome. I've done a lot of sparring with rubber knives in my martial arts school and, take it from Mr. Miyagi: "Best way to win knife fight: run away."

[@Inv1cto]

unless you're protecting your wife and baby son who happen to not be able to run like you can.

[@aprestoargentino5695]

Here is a demonstration of Colombian Fencing vs Argentine Creole Fencing. Ice Pick grip can be very effective. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqu0p2yBq6-Boqs (Minute 0:40) look up for Xander Caslop. I would never go for an Ice Pick Grip like Xander Caslop because my knees are shit and I wouldn't be able to move like that. Creole Fencing would work better for me and it's a proven method as Gauchos actually dueled and killed each other fighting like this. I bet Colombian Fencing has a street fight background, so I would trust it a million times over what these two army guys are doing in the video.

[@Christian-Rankin]

This is the history channel... And they found the two most roided up bulls they could find...

[@BigDaddyMe77]

its a show that invites the baddest soldiers in the world ( those apply anyway)

[@SinerAthin]

They aren't really that big, to be quite honest. It's a rather average size for an average gym veteran. And they are in the typical above average larger soldier category.

[@Christian-Rankin]

nottheonlysinner Well, you are right but I was more talking about their demeanor/IQ/douchebag-level...

[@brandonhall6290]

Christian Rankin I didn't see anything in this video that indicated a lack of intelligence or a problematic demeanor. I am sorry, but in regards to soldiers in the field, I am not looking for the best suited to carry on a debate over the merits of the last comic book flick at the local starbucks.

[@Christian-Rankin]

Brandon Hall I can't say you are wrong - and at the same time you can't say I was. I think you have to think about what I was actually meaning by that comment. Basically, that the History Channel is 90% "reality tv" siphoning money/time from stupid people who wanna think they're smart - 10% historical...

[@SoggySwampWater]

We should make a video game like this where the mechanics make you look for stabbing and attack opportunities by clicking your keyboard/mobile device

[@airsoftbones]

airborne got some kill shot stabs! nice goin

[@SamsungAs-ct2ky]

Leon vs Krauser

[@SirWalterSansRien]

The advantage to reverse grip is WAY more power which is something not realized in a sparring match like this. For example a reverse grip stab to the Army guy's lead hand would have likely mangled or disabled that hand. It's much more difficult for a saber grip slash to deal that kind of damage, especially if we start talking about smaller knives (3-4 inch folders) rather than large military fixed blades. At the beginning the IDF guy does attack the hand, but I have a feeling the TV show would not want a fight decided by hand strikes since that would be not nearly as dramatic. In reality though, if you are sane you would always attack the hands/arms first, staying outside as much as possible. If you go for the body and they are at 100%, you are just going to get stabbed yourself. This is also why in knife vs. knife, you do not lead with your empty hand like Army guy does. That's only useful if your opponent doesn't have a knife or won't strike the hand.

[@johannes3153]

I have seen many videos of knife attacks and all of them held it with the saber grip and nearly all of them first tried to stab the neck. It happens so fast you mist have luck to be able to react to that. I do not think that stabbing the hand of such an attacker is realitic by any means.

[@c.a.j]

True Especially with a karambit

[@c.a.j]

​@@johannes3153 depends how much they're close to you

[@kungfulovenyc4273]

The reverse grip I don't understand why he would attempt that, definitely underestimated his opponent.

[@patmcgrowin3414]

Too many movies

[@deeblue984]

this a PERFECT reason to learn FMA

[@devinloveridge2164]

Aaron ( or however it's spelled) got some really direct stabs, and the slash didn't seen to be on any vitals from what my untrained eyes could see, of course you can't compare the IDF or the army from one guy

[@microwave4928]

Idf suck

[@clearcombat]

IDF guys better lay off the bagels, Jeez!

[@Barai449]

i- i didn’t expected this

[@jaimebowtellireland]

seeing soldier fight with a secondary tool has realism importance for self defense practice as you would perform and perform as you practiced

[@kingharryannis]

The IDF does not have his little palestinian child human shield to hold in front of him.

[@senorchill503]

It doesn't matter who trains you it all comes down to the person fighting. Weather with your hands, blades, or guns it all comes down to the person.

[@Lalomalo_solidinca]

the final boss should be solid snake...that No one could ever beat

[@thecustomer6331]

Bro battlefield looking hella good

[@Maza675]

I would back Sanchez from San Quentin doing a prison rush against both these guys, maybe even at the same time

[@718Brooknam]

I'm with you.

[@rocaho001]

LMAO

[@drftr7735]

idf are used to fighting unarmed Palestinians Americans are used to fighting in real wars

[@ryryguy321]

Rest in Peace, Mack.

[@patchesconway5957]

Someone I saw the other day Just made me think of. this. "Things that make you go Hummm."

[@bkzunltd000]

not sure why the Israeli guy started off in an icepick grip

[@cahsahhhhhhhn]

The reverse knife position seems like a bad way to fight someone who also has a knife, because it shortens his reach to only as far as his normal punching reach would be, while the american extends his reach with the blade out in front of his hand. It has nothing to do with who's country has better soldiers, the IDF guy just made a very poor tactical decision

[@theprogressivecynic2407]

Not really. Personally, I'm fond of the earth grip when practicing against a heaven grip knife fighter because I will bait them into extending and then deliver a lateral strike across the inside of their wrist/forearm (with real blades, that would damage the tendons and make it much harder for the opponent to continue fighting). Of course, I'm a little biased in that regard because my favored blades are karambit, so I can use the integral ring to whip the blade around clockwise to deliver a long-distance strike with the back edge of the blade.

[@ugandanknuckles9595]

Well, your grip is all based on personal preference. If you train with unarmed or hand to hand combat extensively, the reverse grip can come in very handy, as you would already know the basics. The reverse grip essentially utilizes the same technique and form as a standard hook punch. Meanwhile, the standard grip requires you to learn a whole new way of fighting. I think the biggest mistake of the IDF guy was that he was too defensive, not that he was using the wrong grip. It seemed like he almost refused to attack, meanwhile the US Army guy was extremely aggressive and gave the IDF guy no space to make his moves, and even when he did the IDF guy stayed defensive. You can even see that he switches his grip about halfway through thinking that his grip was his issue, but still falters in his technique.

[@brazilianman92]

@@ugandanknuckles9595 They wanted to let the USA win.

[@sigguy1361]

I miss Mack. RIP, good Sir.

[@Wahsup05]

How did I end up here

[@nothingemo]

the idf soldier went back home and made sure non-israeli citizens walked on a partioned dirt road, not a sidewalk.

[@NocriZle]

Murica!

[@davidduvall4846]

Arons got better reach because the way he's holding the knife!

[@tacticalhomestead]

next up ....THE TICKLE FIGHT

[@robertclary5205]

I'd welcome IDF watching my 6 any time...

[@spooki0617]

That's my Boys !!! Whoooo love a good knife fight. If you ain't bleeding you ain't having fun.

[@TheLordNovo]

Number 1 rule of knife fights: always be the guy with a gun

[@grodey3985]

My dumb ass was thinking they were gonna kill each other

[@statiq1941]

The reverse hammer grip is wonderful for counterattacks, and it also allows more torque force and speed in alot of slashes. It also allows a downward plunge slash, often lethal. The standard hammer grip that the US Airborne soldier is using isn't as lethal imo, but is perfect for the match situation. Keep in mind these are two very different soldiers.

[@bae313]

You know little to nothing about the subject. Be sure you recon my channel before you open your suck with a response.

[@c.a.j]

Yea especially with a karambit

[@edonline21]

IT WAS AT REAL KNIFE SPEED,SOMETHING I HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE ON YOU TUBE.GOOD VIDEO.A WISE MAN WOULD LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT,A FOOL,NOTHING?

[@darthrevan2410]

He channeled the dark side! Use nothing but adrenaline and go crazy and make them afraid that does not sound like light side lmao

[@andychanny]

Those training knives are sweet! I wonder where you get them from...

[@viranisco]

Silvers

[@YoderTan]

I'm surprised the IDF guy lost. The fighting style of the Israeli soldiers (i forgot what it's called) is considered to be the best in the world

[@85305]

And the 82d is one of the most advanced fighting machines in the world...

[@MirrorsBaddly]

krav maga

[@weilam03]

krav maga is a joke.

[@Centrinario]

weilam03 Much like your opinions

[@gtasanan3690]

***** thats gay

[@ege5804]

* Grabs a popcorn for comment section *

[@ChrisPBacon1434]

the haircut, wow

[@DerSpartaner]

Well...if you ask me I think in this video they were both untrained with knives. Of course one could say "What da hell do you know about?" - When I was 6 my father which was a veteran to military close combat introduced me to martial arts, such as knife fighting, which was just the beginning. It´s just my opinion - but simply the fact about showing how to catch "points" in knife fighting is not very clever - you will always get injured or die, even if you kill your enemy before you die. Even if you are trained in Krav (I had a few bouts with Krav Maga Instructors) - you die! There is no chance to survive a fierce knife attack if the enemy wants to kill you and has no awareness of himself. Good knife fighters know, that if it comes to a Fight with knives - there is no chance to get out of it with no life threatening injuries - so charge on or retreat! If you decide to charge - expect to die! If you decide to retreat - expect to retreat again! If you expect to die and take some shots - you CAN hit your enemy critical as well. But don´t go for points and expect this shows anything about the Art of fighting with Knives.

[@DerSpartaner]

Tracchofyre Maybe because I live in Germany - my father is 52, thank you - And since this is just a trolling post from you - don´t try to push this an further into the direction of German=Nazi - I won´t react through comments and if you do, I report you for racism. I am sick of this bullshit being blamed for something germans did long time ago and what I abominate out of my deepest feelings and my soul.

[@DerSpartaner]

Nein, das ist es in der Tat nicht. Ich hoffe es klang nicht zu forsch, denn ich werde in der Regel meist gegenteilig belangt. Die Erklärung zu dem 6 jährigen und meinem Vater ist recht simpel - zum einen sind wir Halb-Schweizer und zum anderen agierte mein Vater i.d.R. als Ausbilder für militärischen Nahkampf in der Schweiz und für die BW. Das Wort "Veteran" ist meinerseits daher sehr ungeschickt gewählt, da es den Eindruck erweckt, er sei aktiv in Kampfeinsätzen gewesen, was nur teilweise korrekt ist - ich hätte wohl eher von "Experienced Instructor" sprechen sollen. Zur historischen Erklärung kann ich als Historiker größtenteils nur zustimmen. Ich habe allerdings den Zusammenhang zwischen einem deutschen Namen und der Waffen SS nicht nachvollziehen können - es klang wie eine rhetorische Falle in die ich tappen sollte. Die BRD und Österreich sind sicherlich heutzutage keine militaristischen Glanzbeispiele - ich würde meinen Vater in diesem Kontext als sehr konservativ bezeichnen, da er der Ansicht ist, wie ich auch, ein Mensch sollte in der Lage sein, sein eigenes Leben und das von hilflosen zu schützen, entsprechend den Rahmenbedingungen. Als Infanterist wäre ich sicherlich nur Mittelmaß, während ich als Selbsverteidiger in Nahkampfsituationen wesentlich besser spezialisiert bin. Vor dieser Erklärung kann ich deine Frage und auch deine Meinung vollkommen nachvollziehen und bin bereits dankbar, dass ich mich geirrt habe. Viele liebe Grüße ins schöne Wien aus dem kleinen Frankfurt am Main

[@DerSpartaner]

Tracchofyre Dem kann ich kaum etwas hinzufügen. ^^ Lediglich, dass die Schweizer Armee nach meinem Eindruck durchaus sehr militant ist und auch eine gewisse "martialische" Tradition pflegt, die sich sofern der Wehrdienst geleistet wurde auch beim einfachen Reservisten öfters mal zeigt. "Warst du schon mal in gefährlichen Situationen wo Messer usw. eine Rolle gespielt haben?" - Leider zweimal ja. Einmal kam ich mit einer Schnittwunde davon, das zweite mal konnte ich vorher fliehen, was dass einzig richtige ist, wenn ein Messerstecher auf einen losgeht. Das war beides 80% Glück und 20% Training. Naja, ich denke sowohl in Wien, als auch Frankfurt gibt es jeweils sehr friedliche Gegenden, und solche, wo man gewisse Verhaltensregeln einhalten sollte, um nicht in unnötige Konflikte zu geraten. ^^

[@bae313]

Krav is a con game just like most martial arts. It builds your confidence but leaves you with little substance to succeed against a hostile with actual lethal intent.

[@epdug]

It's amazing how clueless you are. Krav Maga is the most realistic and effective self defence system there is.

[@bae313]

Then why does the guy in this video suck so bad. This is an IDF guy getting training from the source. I know former 82nd Airborne guys and they are not close to the top of the food chain when it comes to CQB. Krav is nothing but the new Taekwondo in that they marketed it harder than anyone else. Why don't you put up some pictures or vids showing us how effectively you employ what you know about Krav?

[@bae313]

From Wikipedia: In 1944 Lichtenfeld began training fighters in his areas of expertise: physical fitness, swimming, wrestling, use of the knife, and defenses against knife attacks. Lichtenfeld is the guy who developed Krav, BUT maybe he was wrong and he didn't really teach the use of the knife. Of course your "experts" are probably selling the watered down civilian version. There are several versions. Nice job showing your ignorance on the subject. So what's your experience/ignorance on the IDF? I was seated at a table chatting with three former members the evening of 23 December 2013. I know and associate with several former members as well as a former Krav teacher who subscribes to my page (disillusioned by civilian Krav, he is now studying the special forces version of Krav). Krav's main strength is getting those with little or no fighting experience to an above average level in a relatively short timeframe.

[@bae313]

You don't know a damned thing. You are just talking out your ass. The reason I check Wikipedia is to fact check before I do what you seem to do very well, which is put your foot in your mouth. What you see those "masters" doing is following a script that has been well rehearsed by all involved. That is nothing like a real fight or even sparring. What the uninitiated (like you), think looks like a real fight is more like a dance. No one is getting hurt, there are no surprises, just choreography. AND you "F"'n idiot, a knife doesn't limit what you can do, it makes you more lethal. The only thing you are proving by continuing this conversation is that you have no martial experience, you have never been in a real fight where someone is trying to break your face, and the dunce cap fits your head perfectly. Now go find a nice dance video to comment on.

[@epdug]

bae313 First problem there is you are using Wikipedia as a reference point. Not a good idea. Anybody can change the information on it. You have to remember that this clip is taken from a "reality tv" show. Which is a contradiction. I wouldn't be basing my opinion on it from this kind of bullshit. Like I said though, sounds like you have your mind made up so that's your opinion.

[@yuliusmotovlog3332]

Awesome!

[@Hypnotonic]

That dude sorta looks like Phantom Lord

[@honestdave]

good fight idf. the guy Took a defensive grip which is usually smart but not very effective against small guys. oh well good try

[@TheJmz1983]

The Bladed Brony !!! Why so his guard hand was sliced from the get go real world the jew would've taken advantage of the fact he slashed both arms going to slow yanky doodle down a tad.knife fight go down town friday night

[@user-nu3sd7zb2j]

Apparently people expect anime type fight from military soldiers . Both of their ways exceptional to me.

[@ace6674]

I thought this video ment I don't fuck with knife fighting lol 😂

[@marilynfink5771]

Get Ur Ultimate Soldier Challenge On!

[@mathew633man]

I've seen a few IDF videos but.. I get disappointed most of the time when I see them train or fight. They are very smart about a lot of things, but it seems ground combat is not their specialty. Krav Maga has good techniques, though. But again, it's never really been proven to be effective.

[@davidben-aharon8913]

+Matt Are you kidding? Krav maga has sure proven to be effective more than the US army fighting system. Krav maga is used every day by Israeli commandos against terrorists. The IDF has consistently proven their effectiveness since day 1 of the war.

[@mathew633man]

David Ben-Aharon I used to be in military so I know what to look for in terms of combat and tactical effectiveness. Although IDF has outstanding records of defeating enemies, their training videos seem to lack something. I'm just saying I can spot the weaknesses in their system. I guess I'm being overly analytical.

[@AdamOuissellat]

+Matt I'm guessing you know of paul vunak

[@raftash5279]

"outstanding record of defeating enemies" - shits bricks when they see Hamas rockets.

[@davidben-aharon8913]

+Raf Tash more like the other way round. The IDF kicks Hamas' ass every time.

[@nigelnaicker7948]

this suprised me, however this was not a fight, this isnt a good test, the israeli knife grip was wrong as this was more of a fencing match then a real fight..overall a stupid test.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Reverse grip is not "wrong". It's a matter of technique and many martial arts use reverse grip knife holding to great effect.

[@nigelnaicker7948]

picassopainter2 read my comment again, I said "the israeli knife grip was wrong as this was more of a fencing match then a real fight" in fencing do people use reverse grips? not that I have seen. this wasn't a knife fight, it was a knife fence.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Nigel Naicker He could have done fine had he applied more training and less avoidance attitude.

[@honestdave]

what the IDF soldiers should have done was use a standard grip. defensive grips don't work too well when you're the larger person

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Honest Dave Reverse grip is not necessarily defensive, he just played it defensively.

[@BOORAGG]

Huh? That reverse knife hold looked like it could have taken the forearm out three of four times.

[@bobingalls4643]

now those guys are some serious warriors.

[@banditoshockydrugs4627]

the mega chad idf ben : dont ever dissresepect your enemy! the virign aaron : STAB

[@microwave4928]

Wrong way round Idf are definitely all virgins