Idina Menzel FIRST vs LAST Defying Gravity

It is a kinda clickbaity thumbnail. I'm not saying she had vocal damage in Wicked as Elphaba. I'm only making this video, it's up to you guys.
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[@WillowWispGaming]

When she just rises up and the crowd *screams* because they know the queen is about to slay everyone

[@heathertaramoutray1623]

Moss Patch yup couldn’t say it better

[@alyssaperkins9775]

i love your profile pic

[@rickym242]

@Batman The Dark Knight I bet you can't sing that well.

[@syra1541]

@Batman The Dark Knight you just take that back

[@jess_7076]

Batman The Dark Knight Because you’re a professional and better than her.

[@CarolanIvey]

To be fair, she was probably crying in her last performance.

[@silverbowftw5225]

I would cry too man, she's embraced that character with all her might for so long...

[@catieseal7766]

That's what I thought too

[@bradyzollars8212]

You can hear it a little when her voice gets shaky.

[@tylerwoodss265]

I think she admitted to not knowing it was her last show when she explained her accident during the melting scene

[@angelhsia]

@@tylerwoodss265 Notice the time. She fell through the trap door during her performance on Broadway, and this clip is her last performance in the West End production of Wicked.

[@hannahroberson783]

Why is the camera quality 100X better in 2003 than 2006 😂

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

The 2006 one looks like it was recorded off of someone's phone/home camera. Whereas the 2003 one was recorded professionally.

[@deannamcleod41]

Erebma Dammahom no the 2006 one looks like it was filmed on a toaster

[@Hwilki]

Hannah Roberson The 2006 video is a bootleg, the 2003 video is professionally recorded for the Tony award reviewer reel with bootleg audio placed over.

[@thewheekingrodent]

The 2006 video looks (and sounds) like it was recorded on a phone, sent to a computer, played, and recorded again off the computer screen. Several times.

[@maginimartini7954]

2006 looks like it’s on a screen recorded by a phone

[@whendidthisgetserious]

I think she was kinda fighting crying in the last one

[@skylerhall8383]

She probably was. Considering that it was her last show. Imagine how hard it was for her to realize it would be her last time singing that song on that stage.

[@ashertheshipper3874]

@@skylerhall8383 that is how my heart shattered

[@wickedfan496]

Real kids Vlogs no it was her last show in wicked ever. The “last time” you’re talking about is her last time on Broadway where she fell through the trap door a day before her final show. The next year she reprised the role on the West End for the first 3 months of Wicked in London

[@suddenlyseymourxox]

I agree

[@savvinaki3647]

Probably yes but I believe her voice did get a bit damaged...after all this is a very demanding and difficult role. I mean she's still amazing but there's big difference in comparison to her first show

[@thebratquinn7665]

I dont know why but hearing the audience scream like that and have so thoroughly enjoyed themselves makes me tear up. Musical Theatre is such a beautiful unifying thing.

[@Phantom281]

Imorysa Perez I was at that performance on her last night in London! It was a very powerful moment in that audience when she did her last performance of Defying Gravity and one of the best West End moments I have seen!

[@IshizuMarisol]

The crowd made me tear up too, I'd be standing and clapping in tears if I was there in person. Idina has my respect and love ❤💕

[@mordecai7755]

My thoughts exactly.

[@victoriacazottes8725]

That costs more tyan my rent😂 no but I agree, and I love it

[@josephdylan2424]

💓💓 much love for the theatre

[@wifiwarrior4707]

i would’ve given anything to have seen this with kristen and idina in it

[@MollyNMoss-gi6je]

Same! ❤️

[@RK-ep8qy]

WifiWarrior innit we need a time machine

[@isabelerhart9523]

Same

[@tdog8480]

I know it must have been AWEOSME!

[@isabelerhart9523]

0 0 - i wish 😭

[@ingrids.3437]

I can count the pixels

[@TheArtsy_]

idk why, but this comment broke me on such a level 🤣🤣

[@benvoiant]

i got the glare from my mom when i fell of my chair reading this

[@livie5595]

it’s 3

[@sourapplerings]

so can my baby cousin

[@TheTerrainWizard]

HahahaH!

[@InvisibleMan95]

Ah, the wickedly talented Adele Dazeem.

[@rayofsunxolove]

Lmao. Epic

[@mikasablackerman6776]

Wonderfully empowering

[@paigejohannesen9681]

shit the hell up. that joke is so yesterday.

[@giannamccord]

@@paigejohannesen9681 Lol r/triggered

[@TheArtsy_]

Never forget asdfghjkl

[@squirtle24601]

It sounds like she’s choking up in the 2006 one. And the way she holds out “me” for too long towards the end, because she doesn’t want it to end and it’s the last place where she sets the tempo before the orchestra comes in. Man, she was a hell of an Elphaba.

[@Grazey]

Here at 420 likes

[@thegaynomadgoldengirlsfan2393]

@@Grazey I liked your comment

[@David-ud9ju]

Shame she was never really capable of singing the part and should never have been cast.

[@aaronlol3613]

Your criticism makes no sense...she held a note for a longer period of time which makes her a “hell of an Elphaba”...

[@aaronlol3613]

David You must be deaf or a better singer than her because she totally is a great original Elphaba.

[@kaylachaney2205]

1st was before she broke a rib. Last was after, since then she has changed range because of the injury she suffered. Hence why her highest note is now lower then it was in 2003.

[@orangebar2693]

Kayla Chaney her range didn’t change cause she broke a rib

[@orangebar2693]

prettymonsterofevil idk maybe but I’m guessing not I doubt her ribs breaking could alter her range that drastically

[@kateloftus8080]

Kayla Chaney thanks so much for sharing that! I never knew she had sustained an injury.

[@kaylachaney2205]

Her voice also changed as she got older

[@kayleigh8055]

Orange Bar I've broken 3 ribs and went from a soprano 1 to an alto. You're lung capacity and comfort changes while they're still healing and once they're healed it still hurts for a long time after to expand your lungs enough to hit this notes. After time you can work up to it but it's still really uncomfortable.

[@partlycloudy_skye]

Can we just point out that it’s not vocal damage, she is just extremely emotional right now? She had spent 3 years performing the show and about 1 rehearsing, and now it’s almost over. I mean, Wicked was about 4 years of her life.

[@OliverHeikkinen]

It is vocal damage. If you belt that song every night 8 times a week especially without proper breath support it will cause damage. And that's what happened because Idina's belting isn't the greatest technique wise

[@NairAthul]

It is vocal damage. The original Australian Elphaba actually quit because of it. Now they've got a routine down because there's been so many women in the role, but those early Elphabas were warriors. They should really do the British thing with casting an alternate to do matinees and select performances.

[@GabeDoesStuff5432123]

It's 100% voice damage. Belting that high in your range for days on end can lead you to develop nodes or polyps on your vocal chords, requiring you to work harder to get a clear sound out, which only worsens the damage. Not to mention the fact that you risk really bad muscle strain, and even vocal chord lesions, which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. All of these conditions if left unaddressed and untreated can lead to PERMANENT damage to your vocal chords. The general advice for singing high is that if it hurts, absolutely do not do it, but even if a really high note is in your range and it's comfortable to sing, it's going to become uncomfortable and hazardous really quickly if you keep doing it, like doing 8 shows a week belting your lungs out. It's like if I asked you to hold a glass of water and never drop it. It's not heavy right away, but after a few hours or a day, it's gonna hurt.

[@thisbeem2714]

Its gotta be both. Why wouldn't she be emotional?

[@GabeDoesStuff5432123]

@@thisbeem2714 Sure she's emotional, but she seems to get it under control by the end of the song. What I hear in that last battle cry at the end is a gritty, strained sound as opposed to her clear, ringing belt that she normally does. Vocal damage makes it harder to sing in tune as well, and you can hear how she's under pitch for that part, but brings it up as she sustains. So while it could be both, I think the majority of the issues with her voice in her last performance came from damage and strain. She's a great singer, but she's not superhuman. People often get upset when vocal damage is pointed out, but it's really not that big of a deal. It happens to everyone. I'm recovering from vocal damage right now, as I type this. In a perfect world, she wouldn't have had to sing through her strained vocal chords, but I digress.

[@paradoxical7782]

the way the audience so aggressively ROARS for her on her last performance literally made me tear up. i love musical theatre

[@brookiebear011]

Sis sang her whole entire face off in that last performance.Gooooosh. Nothing but respect for our queen

[@benvoiant]

same here

[@charfree6888]

Queen Elsa

[@seraphik]

bahahaha whole entire face off i’m stealing that one

[@savannahkemper5509]

If this is supposed to be her last ever performance I completely understand why her voice sounds that way. I have seen the final scene between Glinda and Elphaba with Indina and Kristen they were balling there eyes out. Indina was emotional, she was trying not to cry. That's why her voice sounds the way it does

[@elizrebezilmadommdo1662]

Why is it considered her last performance though? Sure she may be too "old" for the role, but surely she could still sing it on camera.

[@kit7064]

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 even if she knew she'd sing it again, its still a sad moment to leave your cast that you've grown close to over the past however many years. She was leaving the cast comepletle

[@jaydehawkins7016]

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 You must not understand what it feels like to lose a character that you have grown close to and have gotten to know. Its painful. I always get the blues after leaving a cast. Its heartbreaking. Shout out to all my theatre people out there.

[@maximoose_]

Jayde Hawkins I’m tech team but I still get so freaking sad after performances are over. Post show blues are a real thing, and they suck. Props to actors (no pun intended) who get attached to a character and suddenly don’t have to be that character anymore. I get really attached to the casts (our tech team doesn’t change minus the few new people who join) and I usually get really sad, especially if it’s their last term and they can’t do anymore shows. This got really off topic lmao but anyway

[@yuhgetittoit9269]

Idina*

[@percy445]

the 2006 one she just ASCENDED into the mf sky and everyone just LOST IT

[@theRebelRP]

I think the first recording is her being safe because it's a new role. The second one is more emotional because its her last time performing it in that setting

[@StayingInTheShadows2]

Ok but her vibrato sounds best in the last one and it sounds like her voice is less strained. I NEVER liked the we she sang that high note it hurt to hear, but I love how she adjusted it to her voice. That's not damage. That's trying to not damage. She's a professional so trust she knows what's up. I'm not a big fan of hers, but I'll admit she's still killing it

[@bridgetd3643]

Zork Dork I think the last one is in a lower key!

[@cynaracherrycaryccc]

imo her run in London was really strong for most part.

[@JalaniClarke]

Zork Dork THANK YOU, EXACTLY

[@pingnixon-hermansen5046]

@@bridgetd3643 no it's not

[@helRAEzzzer]

While I am a huge fan of Idina Menzel, I honestly agree with everything you said. I'm glad someone said it! She doesn't sound like she has vocal damage at all. In all honesty, I think she did better in 2006 than 2003. She's known the character for a long time and was singing in a way that showed that.

[@marcuscameron8274]

She rarely had a break from the role when she was in Wicked. Like, at all! Not like traditionally where principal characters have alternates to stand in for when they need a break. She had them, but never really used them.

[@davidwilliamklak]

Marcus Cameron if she never used them, that’s kind of her fault

[@wowie2162]

Marcus Cameron if she sang correctly she wouldn't have needed a break

[@saschahoupt6177]

Unlike other majorly vocally and emotionally taxing roles on Broadway (Eg. Evan Hansen), that have their leads do only 6 shows a week and give the other two shows to an alternate, Elphabas all do 8 shows a week unless they call out.

[@delaneyarch8546]

I know she is a hard worker I met her and I got to sing with her it was amazing

[@mattyrobyns-landricombe1489]

wowie 21 op

[@Victoria-iq4xc]

I literally didn’t hear anything bad except for her getting a little emotional, and that is completely understandable. also THE APPLAUSE how I would love to be in a room with energy like that. honestly I don’t think I can name a more talented singer. oh how I wish I could have seen this with her.

[@alexisericson241]

There are more talented singers, with many other great talents like range and sound quality, but her belting is ridiculously cool

[@jamirgordon9745]

@@alexisericson241 Yeah, I really like her voice and it kinda shows how fit Idina and Kristin were for those roles, Idina has a really mature voice and a lot of Elphaba’s after really wanted to follow in her foot steps too, Kristin’s very high pitched voice works well for Glinda, and I get more surprised when her voice changes when she becomes the good witch and her voice isn’t that high pitch anymore but sounds like an opera singer and more mature.

[@Ignasimp]

Her technique was already not that good when she started. She was shouty and too bright. And had an amost non-existent vibrato wich was more like a tremolo.

[@christopherstory8710]

You can tell she's actually improved her technique a lot in the 2017 version. She also took the song down by a whole step or some amount. In any case, she was an awesome singer before, but it's nice to hear her learn how to protect her voice better in the years since her last performance.

[@JakeReeves001]

Her technique is way off now lol she’s shouty and filled with tongue and throat tension

[@mackpunch368]

@@JakeReeves001cite your source

[@tomadams5582]

If you ask me , I think maybe it was the last time she'd peform this song . She was choked up .

[@realmofthemisunderstood166]

Tom Adams She didn’t know it would be her last one, the last one she was supposed to do was after was injured in an incident that happened during the show and her substitute had to take over for her it was actually quite heartbreaking

[@bridgetd3643]

I saw her in her last performance of If/Then and she was overtaken with emotion and teared up a two noticable times during the show. I actually remember her acting and emotions more than how she sounded at that particular moment in time.

[@cadenceoerlemans1394]

Bridget, you are so lucky. That must have been beautiful!

[@NairAthul]

@@realmofthemisunderstood166 the 2006 video is from her West End run, which she completed. She broke her rib on Broadway in 2005

[@VanessaDMusic]

Realm of the misunderstood no, the 2006 performance in this video was at the west end, during her last performance there. She got injured during her broadway run, and couldn’t make the last performance of that.

[@annamorgan4283]

People need to realize that this person isn’t saying she is bad. I mean obviously she isn’t, but she belts all of those notes. That is horrible for your voice especially 8 time a week. She has an amazing voice, but she needs to take care of it. She has had nodes before. Even if she came back from nodes, one day she won’t. Just saying.

[@kristenalgero11]

I think that is the problem with so many people praising the pop vocal style, used very often in musical theater. I used to sing that way until I studied the Alexander Method, which specializes in releasing tension that is unnecessary and supporting from the abdomen. If you do not sing technically accurate, you are much more prone to vocal nodes, which Adele and possibly even Idina have found out. This does not mean that by singing technically accurate you cannot get nodes, it just means you are less likely to since you are incurring far less vocal damage than the people who do not use proper technique and rely strictly on sound.

[@izzie2836]

Anna Morgan i know this comment is old but... 8 times a week?...

[@sallie5321]

@@izzie2836 For Broadway at least, there can be two shows per day. For some musicals (that I know and have looked at the dates they perform), they have one day of the week off with no shows, and then on two days, they perform twice. So that would add up to 8 times per week.

[@izzie2836]

TeamS ahhhhh thank you, i can’t believe i let that slip my mind 😂

[@lovesahmoneee]

It literally not a thing. They have understudies that step in to give them a vocal break

[@katelynmcdonald4878]

She literally put everything she had into her last performance

[@gabbypoet]

I thought her last performance was so much richer and heartfelt. She's amazing!

[@jacobduran3276]

Idina Menzel was perfect for this role at this time when it first opened on Broadway. Her vibrato was amazing. She did this role for a good year and half...8 times a week on broadway with 2 show days at times. Not to mention the workshops and tryouts before all of this. Then she went to London for 3 and half months and she did it again 8 times a week. This woman had passion and emotion that she put into this character. Her voice is just tired. Maybe she’s not the best vocally but perhaps a good actress. Or maybe in fact, she is indeed both..maybe not to you but to others just like me. Yeah she has slip ups and sometimes her voice cracks and maybe can’t hit a note. Not everyone is perfect. I think it’s her confidence compassion and flaws that is what people find so relatable to her. Someone like Idina made it to broadway. Which many people want to these days. They look up to her for inspiration. Whether you like it or not...she is an iconic broadway legend.

[@Brotato_]

I couldn't agree more

[@chloew.2861]

It's not about her talent at all! I think she's amazing, but she is going to kill her voice, it's already starting to happen.

[@jacobduran3276]

dollsforlifeag I ADORE Idina so much. But yes her voice is probably tired. Like with any singer their voice needs a break. Especially 8 times a week on broadway. But yes she did amazing in Frozen. She can still sing great...She is iconic.

[@chloew.2861]

She is extremely talented but she uses improper technique. There is absolutely no denying that she has already damaged her voice, which is sad, but it happens.

[@Mulderitssme]

What is it that she does improperly? People keep saying that but I would like to know what it is she is doing wrong please?

[@annieporter]

i think the 2006 one is incredible am i the only one???

[@buggedbrew]

It is amazing!!

[@ellie1981]

Yep. I thought it was the best. Happy to say I was there.

[@SpazzAttack515]

heyimleavingthisacc I’m there with ya hun! I love all of her performances though. Even the ones that aren’t “as good” or “as strong”. Let’s see anyone else do what she does as well, and as consistently, as that woman does.

[@cjonesy4654]

Haha you said it. Her voice is truly amazing. My favourite Elphaba and by far one of my favourite singers.

[@sher9436]

Annie Porter same! i also think the 2017 one is amazing though. But the 2006 is the best

[@yourlocalweeblexi4392]

No one: My brain during class: Never bring MEEEEEEE DOWNNNNNNNNN I HOPE YOU’RE HAPPYYYYYYYYYY

[@larakerznar5653]

Omg! If that's not me I don't know what is

[@Triairius]

Say what you want about Idina Menzel, but that energy and that audience were electrifying.

[@ohheyitlex]

I'm confused why this is titled as vocal damage. 1. Singing any vocally demanding show, 8 shows a week for years on end will have an effect on your voice. 2. It was her last show!! Can you imagine the emotions that were pumping through her?? 3. Everyone's voice changes over the course of time. I sure don't sound like I did when I was in high school. And 5 years from now my voice will be a little different too. That's just a natural progression of life. What you're hearing isn't necessarily vocal damage. It's more than likely raw emotion changing her inflection, on top of hitting the demands of a challenging part.

[@roanc3709]

Alexis Gawel no it probably is vocal damage. Singing a song that belts that much at those pitches as often as she has. Like I'm not blaming her for her vocal damage but like it would take a lot of care for her to even reduce vocal damage.

[@ohheyitlex]

Paige C I completely agree that she (just like every other long time performer) has suffered damage on her voice. I may have taken the tone of the title more agressive and judgy than was intended. I think what I was trying to say (which I failed to do in my original comment) is it's a little unfair to compare her first performance to her last, extremely emotional performance, and label it as vocal damage.

[@roanc3709]

Alexis Gawel why? It is damage. As a singer, emotions (except like intense anxiety from an incoming panic attack) tend to only make your voice better. If it was just about it being emotional that should have been the best performance of her career

[@ESwagDoodle]

Paige C you're a singer, Idena is an actor and most all Broadway stars are actors first and foremost. Musical theatre singers are often encouraged to let imperfections come through in moments of intense emotion because it's very real.

[@roanc3709]

Isa Jackowich actually they're meant to focus mostly on sounding good because the singing is the biggest part of musical theatre. You can get emotions through in good singing. In fact it's a major part of good singing. The songs in musical theatre are meant to be perfect as much as possible. I doubt any good singing teacher would encourage a student to do something that would ruin their voice. I did something that would be slightly damaging if I kept doing it once and my teacher immediately was like no don't do that that's gonna damage your voice.

[@EllieRialasMusic]

I don’t think the role of Elphaba is all about the voice... Idina put her heart and soul into Elphie and that constitutes for are far more magical portrayal of Elphaba than an actress with perfect technical vocal ability.

[@wisebumblebee]

I'm sure she did for every performance. That's why her voice suffered so much.

[@idkarl3364]

Why the frIck did I just realize that this is voice actor for Elsa as well

[@Luke-me8cf]

What blew my mind is Kristin Bell is the voice of anna

[@animallover57774]

Luke yeah, but kristen chenoweth is the actor for Glinda

[@seraphik]

Luke SAME. i had no idea until i saw the credits for frozen 2 on disney+

[@aaronslays3000]

You just realized that?!?!?

[@christopherfarmer2511]

You think anyone else can hit them notes Indina killed that mwah SHES so talented

[@madeleineclaire222]

Yk she got this role cause she messed up during her audition and said “FUCK”

[@hemhem9088]

REALLY AGAHAAHHAHAKDKDJKSJDJ

[@amb2487]

@@hemhem9088 YESSS AHDHEHEHHE SHE SAID SHE WAS DOING GREAT IN A DF BUT THE CRACKED ON THE LAST NOTE SO SHE SHOUTED THAT DHDHHD (they gave it to her bc they thought it was very “wicked witch like”)

[@jaydenmiles2354]

It just sounds like her larynx was too high and that she started to develop an unhealthy technique for her to belt that high for so long comfortably. She’s an amazingly talented woman though.

[@theflawlessone1551]

Jayden Tonasket she adds too much chest in her mixed voice which leads to significant tension in her voice. Throatiness, Shrillness due to a high larynx

[@trevortm3304]

She broke her rib, and ghe injury affected her vocal range

[@jaydenmiles2354]

Trevor Meme that shouldn’t have anything to do with your range, it might have to do with her support but it’s an entire separate thing from where your vocal cords are

[@miaandreatta7691]

Also certain people who have a hard time developing mixed voice, they develop upper belts like myself. And when done properly it's perfectly fine. But it's always good to know when not to hit a note so you don't damage your voice. I don't think this was the case. Indina is an amazing singer and has a wicked, ha wicked Upper belt. She sounds clear and it doesn't sound strained but she's human and everyone messes up from time to time. But remember she broke her rib and that can put immense pressure on your lungs. My sister broke her ribs and had a very hard time breathing so that's most likely why the range was lower because you need a lot of support for that song. But I don't think she damage her voice she's just older and has had an injury.

[@thatoneannoyingsoprano8066]

she was never professional trained throughout her rent and wicked days. she had a self taught technique that strained her voice to where it is now

[@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO]

Everyone in the comment section is a professional vocal coach or a professional musician all of a sudden

[@adamzheng4362]

Survival bias. People who are more experienced are more likely to comment

[@adamkerstetter1750]

OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO some of us have been professional or semi professional. I taught voice in college while I was getting my music degree. So, some of us actually have a frame of reference for our posts. Others? Not so much.

[@alligator985]

Well doesn’t it make sense that people who are interested in vocals would click on a video like this? Hardly anyone is claiming to be professional but I wouldn’t be surprised if most people with an opinion at least went to voice lessons

[@Triairius]

But I actually am! And I'm not gonna criticize her. She sounded healthier at the end of her run in 2006 than I expected. That song is absolutely _brutal_ to belt. It's not in a range that vocal anatomy typically allows for full chest voice, so she has to reeeeeally stretch where her muscles can do. To sound that good after 8 shows a week for two years is honestly incredible. Are there healthier ways to sing those high belts? Yeah. But some artists feel the interpretation is more important than singing "properly." And who can say she was wrong to choose that in this role? She only made it one of the most popular and successful musicals of all time, up until Hamilton.

[@badvibesonly3526]

@@Triairius honestly to me she sounds more like shes trying to hold back tears than singing with a damaged voice

[@tipofmytongue1024]

You try belt 8 times per week and pull a final performance like this

[@xavierdallenmusicuniverse6304]

I got to admit 8 times a week is hard work

[@Charlotte-gd4dr]

That awkward moment when you wanted to see Idina but then you realize I wasn’t alive yet

[@jenny-ix5mk]

Yente 2007? bc same

[@Logan-dc1fv]

Feyre Darling Wow ur too young for KZbin

[@Logan-dc1fv]

I was born early enough but I was 4 so I couldn’t watch

[@laurag5800]

i just felt like such a grandma getting shocked at how young you are then realized i got on youtube at around the same age lol

[@DeZusVanMijnZus]

Wow i feel old now😂

[@meeklefrog]

i haven’t even heard every single song in wicked why am i crying oh my god

[@moonlightcresselia2397]

Michael Michelle its because you see how elphaba changed from the silent shy scared girl to a grown women who embraced who she is and wont let anyone drag her down that lift off shows her leaving her past and is never going to turn back (or get brung down) hence the line "bring me down"

[@TheMurrmursonbottle]

everyone's acting like someone's attacking her lmao the "vocal damage" in the thumbnail is for clickbait, like saying "Is their vocal damage?" People in broadway fanbases are SO quick to get triggered

[@MisterGolightly]

Thank you lol

[@Brennataco]

TheMurrmursonbottle I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE I SWEAR!

[@TheMurrmursonbottle]

Brenna.taco i spend way too much time on youtube

[@pyroshayniac1090]

They really do, you'll get CRUCIFIED if you talk smack on Hamilton.

[@uhmno7944]

We do but because most of us (them) want to be on broadway but doesn’t know the struggle I do my high school musicals and they are throughout the year if you need a belting person call me my voice is so Demanding that I can’t talk Normally anymore People want to be on broadway but never want to do the struggle

[@kbeth1979]

It's not her voice, the sound quality on the 2006 version is horrid. She still sounds amazing, probably more emotional in the last performance because it was her last time .

[@mayaisabelle3709]

AHHHH I love how she was soaking up the last performance

[@shadysadie8589]

First of all her voice sounds amazing in all of these. Second of all the 2006 one was a terrible recording so that had nothing to do with her voice and in the last one she was trying to change the style for a concert so that’s why she changed it different. And sure she’s gonna be a little better in 2003 when she was younger but there isn’t even that much of a difference. 😒

[@chloew.2861]

Shady Sadie it's absolutely not about talent or her sounding bad, which she does not. It's about the fact that she is killing her voice.

[@potterhead7888]

eolhc well imagine singing everyday it’s eventually going to strain your voice

[@chloew.2861]

Potterhead I know 8 shows a week is a lot, and that's why she needs to be singing with proper technique. If you're singing that often with unhealthy technique, you will damage your voice. It has already happened to her.

[@elliemorozow3141]

Very true but if you belting soooooo often for your job your voice goes. It's her job it's the thing you have to live with if you want to become and west end/broadway performer. Yes she is extremely talented but her vocal chords have been gradually going

[@wenders4908]

Being younger makes your voice not as loud so she wouldve sounded better in 2006 if she wasnt made to belt out notes every day

[@twitchingsparrow282]

God you can hear the emotion in her last (Broadway) performance, she was trying so hard to keep it together. So much respect for her ❤️

[@ashertheshipper3874]

Sad Fact:she didn't know it was her final performance and when I saw this my heart shattered. She might have been really hurt from choking up on his last performance She is my only Elphaba in Wicked no one else will replace here she is my queen

[@ashertheshipper3874]

Thanks for agreeing I don't consider likes to be important I just want people to appreciate idina well at least she's my perfect Elphaba and Elsa 😁😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Inazarab]

Why didn't she know it was her final performance?

[@Inazarab]

@@girlwholikesmusicals2349 Why not?

[@Inazarab]

@@girlwholikesmusicals2349 Oh sorry I didn't notice the question mark lol

[@theblakesheep]

You’re mistaken, this performance was her last from London, not broadway. She broke her rib at her second to last broadway performance, so she missed her planned final show on broadway. But this video was from her final London performance, a few years later.

[@tallerpororlando]

Vocal damage? The 2006 perfomance was amazing!!! Pure emotion, heart and soul.

[@SacredHoax]

When belting is executed properly it’s actually not very taxing on your voice. The issue comes when the technique becomes lax. Unlike Classical methods, belting actually requires less air to produce more sound. It’s all about muscle coordination and resonance. From my own experience I can tell you that the issue can easily arise when a performer becomes very emotionally invested in the scene. That emotion can easily produce tension on the vocal folds, because the breathing becomes a bit erratic. I’m someone who’s trained Bel Canto, but I’m all for belting. 😃 Idina’s a belter, and an actress. You can’t be 💯 both all the time. Some shows you’ll be better vocally and others you’ll be a more intense character. That’s neither right, nor wrong, that’s just the beauty of musical theatre.

[@cookq]

If I could only have one, I'd take the last performance (2006). So full of emotion. She's doing this epic part - one of the hardest in the Broadway canon - for the very last time. It's like this part was made for her and only her, and nobody is ever gonna bring her down. And nobody has yet to surpass her in this role.

[@SophieAvonIlkley]

In the 2017, she's singing it as herself, not as her character so she'll sing it in her voice which is much lower

[@triciarogers9695]

Literally a vocal professional. I don't hear vocal damage, although I'm sure she probably had some along the way. 8 shows a week for 3 years? Singing that high? Absolutely. But I actually heard more support and better pitch accuracy in the 2006 1

[@MrMartybearass]

who the hell cares??? The girl can BELT!!!!!!

[@MrMartybearass]

Can only hope they get both originals for the film!!!

[@lavelycode8249]

Film????

[@sophiet4427]

Because if she carries on like this she won't be able to belt like this anymore

[@syd9403]

MrMartybearass I love you for saying that

[@zeddelixproductions6205]

She has an unhealthy and untrained method of belting though, which really damages her voice. Especially with how frequently she used to perform.

[@stephenvalentinemusi]

I openly admit to being a Kerry Ellis, Willemijn, and Rachel Tucker stan and I find all three women easier to listen to in this musical and have better technique. THAT SAID.....Idina's passion in the role is what made Elphaba iconic. Sure, there are better Elphies vocally, but very few match the passion she put into the role that defined her career. Had she not played Elphaba, she wouldn't have even been a thought for voicing Elsa.

[@pip1278]

it's why I love her so much ! I think my favorite Elphaba is Willemijn but I know Wicked thanks to Idina and even if some perfomances weren't really good, the passion she puts on this role say how much she is talented !

[@JemDazzling92]

Stephen Valentine actually the original role of Elsa went to demi levato but she don't want to do it

[@kaylamorgan7308]

Jeremiah Sands Really? I didn't know that.

[@JemDazzling92]

Kayla Morgan yep

[@LauraJQW]

Rachel Tucker is amazing

[@uzmam2612]

I don’t think it’s vocal damage, I think she was just emotional knowing it’s her last performance

[@emxia4327]

I saw Wicked on Broadway in New York last summer, it was magical how all of the actors seemed born to play each individual role and how it came together perfectly

[@ccishot564]

And yet people hold broadway/classical singers to such a high standard when it comes to technique and support

[@schnitzel1024]

ccishot564 it's kind of a known fact that she hasn't always had the best technique. She also has better technique NOW than she has ever had before.

[@stone8193]

Broadway singers are definitely not held at near a high a standard as used to. Neither is opera sadly

[@schnitzel1024]

Stone [石のドラム] Opera definitely is.

[@stone8193]

Carl Briggs opera has also declined significantly

[@Gameworks1407]

Stone [石のドラム] it has seriously declined from the ages of Callas, Sutherland and Price, but it hasn't fallen as much as Broadway

[@princedonovaughn1182]

WTF was that scream London Glinda.

[@LH-xo2hf]

Val and Brit honestlyyyyyyyyy !!!

[@samsingsthings]

I’m gutted that’s what you’ve seen of Glinda in London. I’ve seen it twice here and that’s never happened whilst I’ve been there

[@iAmMadeOfSoup]

West Ends Glindas are always obnoxious

[@hhhwhat9472]

@@iAmMadeOfSoup I think you mean _extra_

[@isabelerhart9523]

Yes she on West end in 2006

[@cagot486]

Yo she kills it in both. Remember that the camera quality was crap meaning that the audio was also crap. Their was static and in one of her me's the sound went all blurred like it was underwater. It sounded amazing still and would have been even more amazing in person

[@theprettygoodgatsby]

Ngl i had goosebumps and got teary eyed watching this whole thing I havent even seem this musical yet

[@Moonlight-tr7jv]

Idina: AHHHHHHHHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH everyone: *AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFHIEOHEAOIHBEFOHQAEOUB*

[@kkstar1297]

IDINA IS MY IDOL! I got to meet her last summer and she signed my poster that I made of her. I hope I get to meet her again one day! She was just so sweet! I even got to sing Let It Go with her and other kids. It was just absolutely AMAZING!

[@kylecoz]

Vocal damage? I actually thought she improved from the first and last.

[@sapoftrees5719]

Her singing gives me literal chills!! It’s amazing what Idina Menzel can do with her voice, she’s such an incredible singer!

[@raynea7154]

Me trying to sing defying gravity with my low alto voice: I think I’ll tryyyy defyyyyyyyyying gravityyyy My vocal chords: I think I’ll tryyyy defyyyyyying gravityyyyyyyyyyyy

[@ohimcuriousy3ah]

can someone explain to me why i got so excited when the audience screamed for her in the 2006 one, i woyld have given anything to have been there

[@g0nt4]

Because you are human. I feel that too.

[@jazminestryder]

Also in reference to vocal damage... I think she's healed since then - but I believe she's taken the route of lowering keys of the songs. She's not a spring chicken anymore. Our voices change SO much throughout our lives, we go through a shift in range around 16-18 give or take, and then again in our early 20's. And it continues on to be a change in your 30's and then 50's. I experienced a literal shift in my voice around the age of 19, I was taking a voice class and for a good year I was constantly having issues shifting pitches and my voice would crack and I sounded frustratingly bad when I sang. But then around 21 I have this whole new range of vocal pitches and I can control my pitch FAR better than I used to! It's great! lol

[@deadfish776]

Tell them how *I* am defying gravity, I’m flying *HIGH* defying gravity

[@FrannieFrugal]

even on her worst day, she's magnificent.

[@Mrnickstr89]

My step mom is a chorus teacher who gratuated with her MFA in vocal performance. We've discussed Idina and why she sounded so amazing early in the run and what changed. From research I have done, Idina has for a long time had really really bad technique in her singing (go look up her singing "My Strongest Suit" as Amneris in Aida for a good reference), practically shouting or straining her voice at top notes. I forget where, but I recall that right after Idina got the role of Elphie she was given a vocal coach to help strengthen her weak points. Idina later stopped working with them well into the run of Wicked and from what I've heard of her towards the end of her run, reverted back to her old habits of singing with improper technique. My step mom says this happens a lot with singers from teens on thru adults mostly because of how people may have sung the wrong way for long periods of time. Usually the deal is its harder to correct bad singing habits the older you get. I'm not saying this is the de facto reason..... but I think it's more of a realistic explanation.

[@garygreen3845]

An MBA in vocal performance????

[@deboxmojave6541]

Fuck reading that comment.

[@Mrnickstr89]

@@garygreen3845 Whatever the msaters degree is for vocal performance. I don't know why I put MBA 😆

[@babababad]

@@Mrnickstr89 MM

[@AgarioSplitrunner]

it makes sense, at the end she feels love so she controls the wind and ice

[@nikmorgan372]

I didn’t hear that her voice was that damaged. Although the maturity level of her voice changed so much. You can tell that she’s older in a good way. Although I would expect her voice to be quite damaged from all of the work. It’s terrible for your voice to belt like that and she is really pushing on her throat. Maybe eventually she will actually show damage from her overworking of her voice, but she does sound better with time in my opinion.

[@sandiblack5072]

Or MAYBE She just got 15 years older

[@zoey__bliss]

?

[@KLCeup]

She aged 15 years in 3 years yeah?

[@symiafreeney2337]

@@KLCeup i think they were talking abt the 2017 one lol

[@Theo-mf3bd]

Willemijn Verkaik played the show for over 10 years and she didn't fuck up her voice she only got better.

[@nataliastornello]

LITERALL CHILLS ALL OVER MY BODY

[@chaysewhite6399]

This song gives me the chills.

[@lissajaynefw]

Kristen’s little ‘I hope your happy’ I can’t 😂

[@xxKEVZxx]

2006 one gave me goosebumps and damn I wanna cry...LOVE HER! No one can play Elphaba like she can! #queen

[@emilyduhjedi]

2:00 Thats the quality of my phone's camera😂

[@mthiel25]

Love her soooo. 💚💚 I’ve listened to practically every actress sing this song and Idina hands down has the BEST second “It’s Meeeee” as she’s soaring into the sky. Gives me chills every time! And wow, that final note on her final night in London - incredible!!! I saw her twice as Elphaba on Broadway and once live in concert, and her voice just SOARS and booms through the entire theatre, it goes right through you (in the best way possible), unlike any I’ve ever heard. Many of these recordings don’t even begin to do her justice or capture the intensity, depth, and incredible power of her voice. Even the official Broadway recording, as good and “perfect” as it is, doesn’t do her actual “live” voice justice. And thanks for adding the Bonus at the end - stunning! Her vibrato really shines in the lower key. Love, love, Love!!! 💚🖤💚

[@111Casey]

I remember going to see this musical In 2015 or 2016 for my 6th grade choir class I wasn’t really into musicals until then ♥️

[@kale3563]

3 years damn

[@uhm_5414]

xctf I know! Think about doing that Musical over and over and over again.

[@dianefinneranproctor4454]

8 times a week!!

[@isabelerhart9523]

Diane Finneran Proctor i know its really hard work to just sing that one song

[@wickedlygravitational]

I mean if she still sang it in the original key we'd have a better comparison

[@marcuscameron8274]

Wickedly Gravitational not really. You can hear the strain as she ascends on certain notes.

[@wickedlygravitational]

Marcus Cameron agreed for sure! Better comparison though ...

[@NicoRaimont]

its the same key

[@JJsims5504]

The first two were. The last one is a bit lower. Just sing along with each one and you can tell.

[@annabaker9173]

She isn’t straining. But she doesn’t want to over push herself. Voices change and she knew what her change was. She no longer has a soprano range and she knows that so therefore she doesn’t sing in the original key.

[@ThunderRanch]

Idina: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWNNNNN The audience: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@ohmymarbles]

I am so happy I had the opportunity to see her live!

[@BriannaFinnell]

I love idina, but of course singing like this will cause damage much earlier than a classical voice. Many classical singers can still sing into their 70’s and above! I hope she doesn’t have any damage. She’s wonderful.

[@macecrawford2860]

Brianna Finnell look at Julie Andrews. she was such a great singer. and still is to me. I believe she will be just fine

[@NairAthul]

@@macecrawford2860 Julie's vocal cords were mangled by an inept doctor. She was actually working 8 shows a week well into her 50s (she was in Victor Victoria before the surgery).

[@Inazarab]

What is the difference between this and classical singing? I always thought singing was just singing.

[@BriannaFinnell]

Inazarab there are a lot of different styles and techniques. Even in other cultures they sing differently.

[@littlemikeism]

Class act. The only one criticizing are the ones who have never done it.

[@classicmail8239]

"And soon I'll match them in renown!" You sure did Idina!

[@darkmage5485]

In the 2006 one, she was definitely emotional and was doing her best to not cry, which personally made me cry because of how touching it is. She played that role for YEARS

[@sarcasmproductions9507]

she is so talented ❤️❤️❤️

[@katherinec.4846]

When I saw wicked in the us tour a couple months ago, elphaba was played by the wonderful Olivia Polci. I was actually kinda sad bc i thought it would be Jessica vosk, but Olivia was really brillant, she's was understudy for elphaba. I'm really glad that she's my first elphaba bc she was absolutely amazing. There's not a lot of videos of her bc she's kind of lowkey undiscovered, but she deserves to be as legendary as jessica vosk or Idina

[@orangebar2693]

I saw Jessica she was just... wow I can’t even describe it

[@annagracemccurdy794]

I got to see this amazingly talented woman in person and her voice was flawless. Absolutely stunning!

[@wickedfan811]

She was/is on fire during singing DG. She puts her sowl, heart and power in her performance and in her singing. That's why i love her. You can say whatever you want - Menzel will forever be the Elphaba, who started it all and who lit the stage on fire during every performance. Love her.

[@syd9403]

Idinas voice has changed so much. And Im obsessed with this woman. Her voiceeeee 😍😍😍😍😍❤❤❤

[@mjewan9920]

the 2006 footage would scare the hell out of me because it's like she's pointing the one who's taking the bootleg lol

[@fan_girl21]

one day I was stumbling along KZbin and I started to watch clips of Idina Menzel for no good reason at all. I used to listen to the wicked soundtrack on CD when I was about 8, and so I figured I might as well just watch some videos to see how she is as a person. AND LOW AND BEHOLD…. my eyes were opened up. I haven’t no clue what took me so long to realize how truly INCREDIBLE AND TALENTED Idina is. Like I am talking INCREDIBLE. She seems like such a genuine, down to earth kind of gal and I really admire that! I guess the only songs I was super familiar with was Popular, and one short day. Until I decided to listen to this song called: DEFYING GRAVITY. And oh do I tell you, this song literally has CHANGED MY LIFE. It has given me hope, when I am in the midst of darkness. It gives me strength to continue on, no matter how cruel life gets. Defying Gravity really taught me well, but FOR GOOD oh my gosh I can’t even describe the emotions I felt when first listening to it. First of all, I have watched about every single KZbin video out there of Idina and Kristin singing for good, and no matter what video it is I always end up BAWLING!!😭😭 that song is so important to me and I hold it in a very special place. It has taught me to cherish your relationships because you never know what’s gonna happen in life. I guess I just want to thank god for putting Idina Menzel on this earth. 🙏✝️She has been such an inspiration for me and I know for millions of others. She is the type of person we need more of in this world. IDINA I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!!🤟🏻🤟🏻💗💗

[@ellieryan5218]

I was at the performance 30th may 2006 and she was amazing - and amazingly emotional. As were most of the audience

[@egglet535]

She may not be the first vocally, but she became excellent at acting. I felt nothing during her first except the utter feeling of how Defying Gravity hits you. In the last one, she has so much emotion in her voice, her eyes, and everything.

[@marin1137]

so many people are getting upset in the comments but nobody was attacking her?? like chill we all know she’s amazing

[@lucasgray1492]

I love Idina so much. And singing those notes would probably hurt eventually but she was probably crying or holding back tears during her last performance

[@railenherman6482]

I love the way she sang that last “down” in the 2006 one. Though, the sudden volume changes due to the quality made it kind of funny.

[@JulianaBlewett]

No, not vocal damage. Emotions. This was her last performance on Broadway. The last one was lowered for practical reasons.

[@devinflener8640]

It really comes down to a lot of variables, those being the stress at the time (vocal, mental, and physical), as well as if it was her first or last performance for the shows run, general health at the time, recording quality, and even character choice. So, eh- don't worry about it. She's fine. She knows what she's doing.

[@thaliafelice7679]

I found this video to be really fascinating, thanks.

[@katricepurisima]

idina menzel is the only elphaba that gives me an overwhelming desire to cry when i watch her, she's absolutely amazing