JUNK 1.4L Turbo Chevy Cruze / Sonic Bad Engine Teardown. I Would AVOID these.

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@lordcorgi6481
@lordcorgi6481 Жыл бұрын
One of the easiest ways to tell if a vehicle has been neglected is to pull a spark plug out and if it's an Autolite don't buy it.
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 Жыл бұрын
Ford 4.6s and 5.4s love autolite APP plugs.
@Lubbocksfinest
@Lubbocksfinest Жыл бұрын
I mean it could just mean they were poor or not knowledgeable. At least they do maintenance. I’ll take one with auto lite plugs over a car with sludgy coolant, black trans fluid, and take5 oil change stickers ANY day of the week and twice on a Saturday
@stevenweiss2148
@stevenweiss2148 Жыл бұрын
? Maybe a clue but not a fact
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't know what's so wrong with Autolite 🤷 Not sure how that says it's been neglected either but people still buy Chevys so I guess I will never understand some people's thought process!
@seymoarsalvage
@seymoarsalvage Жыл бұрын
I mean agree, its as bad as seeing a Fram oil filter. But, at least it means they did SOME maintenance. Now, the orange RTV? Thats a run, don't walk, away..
@stephenvale2624
@stephenvale2624 Жыл бұрын
I find really touching, the care you take honoring the lives of these poor mistreated water pumps, who never got the love they deserved during their working lives. Rest in peace oh valiant warrior! 😂
@j81851
@j81851 Жыл бұрын
My condolences to the family.......
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 Жыл бұрын
*taps* playing
@paulheiting6484
@paulheiting6484 Жыл бұрын
😂
@jacobakers8041
@jacobakers8041 9 ай бұрын
To Valhalla
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
This isn't the worst 4-cylinder engine GM ever made; that distinction goes to the 2.3 liter engine that was in the Vega from 1971-77. GREAT VIDEO!
@ericripley9739
@ericripley9739 Жыл бұрын
Was going to make this comment but you beat me to it!
@trm4life
@trm4life Жыл бұрын
I dunno, there was the quad 4
@d.w.j.1114
@d.w.j.1114 Жыл бұрын
😂 came here to remind everyone of the 2.3 Vega engine but you got it out there. Horrible engine.
@nthgth
@nthgth 11 ай бұрын
Lmao okay so it's not just me
@DF-et4gs
@DF-et4gs 11 ай бұрын
​@@trm4lifeI was going to say quad 4 lol
@glebzobnin9416
@glebzobnin9416 9 ай бұрын
In Opel classification, it’s A14NET. This engine is installed in Astra J, Mokka, and other models
@geraldc.37
@geraldc.37 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the teardown. I maintained my 2012 cruze 1.4 l till i sold it off with 150k miles. Kept me very busy with 2 turbos, multiple water pumps and valve covers, an intake, two coil packs, thermostats, numerous cooling system parts, oil leaks including a front cover gasket. Glad i'm done.
@LoutenatKernel
@LoutenatKernel 10 ай бұрын
You should've taken it to the junkyard
@SAMPLETEXT285
@SAMPLETEXT285 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like you would of saved alot more money by just scraping the car after the first few repairs and buying a cheap corolla or civic used but to each their own I guess
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV 8 ай бұрын
Well he thought it was gunna be like my cruze bought for 2k$and just have a lil oil leak and coolant leak easily fixed for 100$ and then no issues for 4 years. But he got unlucky lol 😅​@SAMPLETEXT285
@troyguinn303
@troyguinn303 8 ай бұрын
​@SAMPLETEXT285 I wholeheartedly agree with you. I bought a 13 sonic rs (6 speed mt). Trying my best to track it down the source of leaks (oil and coolant) @ 82k miles.
@emmcee476
@emmcee476 5 ай бұрын
What are you driving now?
@trevkivela9426
@trevkivela9426 Жыл бұрын
As a proud owner of one of these engines, ive had to have the turbo replaced due to the impeller bearing failing, the ignition coil shorting out, and also the thermostat housing cracking. Currently working on a mystery coolant loss. Thanks chevy
@FusionBoost2.0
@FusionBoost2.0 Жыл бұрын
Check the coolant tank
@MiGujack3
@MiGujack3 Жыл бұрын
Pray to the head gasket gods.
@brent3
@brent3 Жыл бұрын
Here are some things you can check, next to the oil filter housing there's a coolant junction on the side of the block. Extremely common for the seal/plastic to crack. Also the sensors in the junction o rings can leak. The water pump is also notorious for failing. Not a terrible job, but all the bolts are very tiny and go into aluminum. If I recall they are like 8 ft lbs. I've also had hoses (especially the heater core hoses) rub thru on the brackets ment to hold them. Ironic. My 2013 sonic 1.4t has always leaked something. Once I fix one thing another leaks.
@mariusgrigoras1655
@mariusgrigoras1655 Жыл бұрын
Mine is leaking from the water pump. I changed 2 of them in 2 years( non OEM). Seems to be an issue with the antifreeze plug(or whatever that round thingy is supposed to do😅). It's pretty strange(or not).
@brent3
@brent3 Жыл бұрын
@@mariusgrigoras1655 I always end up using GM genuine, don't get me wrong they are still junk, but the aftermarket parts are exceedingly dubious quality.
@christophertstone
@christophertstone Жыл бұрын
8:40 Those oil-fed tensioners _don't have ratchets_ and are easily my biggest complaint in GM engines of this era. If oil pressure hiccups for any reason, chain is fried, and you'll be lucky if it doesn't jump time.
@ghostrider-be9ek
@ghostrider-be9ek Жыл бұрын
holy christ
@fanglies6095
@fanglies6095 Жыл бұрын
i hope to god this is a non-interference engine, because if not thats disgraceful engineering
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 Жыл бұрын
Is this "oil pressure hiccups" a GM issue? I feel like the tensioner not being a ratchet style is the least of your worries if so! The timing chain in this car is simple and with the guides and spring behind the plunger I doubt it will jump timing with any "hiccups" it may encounter. Might have a second of noise on start up but the spring should be plenty strong to keep decent tension until oil pressurizes. If oil pressure drops long enough to collapse the tensioner then you're already fucked elsewhere which who cares if it jumps at that point! And if it fries your chain then I'd be shocked it didn't snap day one!
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
there aren't non interference engines anymore mate@@fanglies6095
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
​@@commonsenseisdeadin2024oil pressure hiccup say from running low oil
@jasonz5898
@jasonz5898 Жыл бұрын
Own 2011 since new 248k on clock. 10k oil changes . Dosent use a drop of oil. No turbo or head gasket issues. Replace water pump a couple of times and couple of thr plastic water housings parts. And an ignition pack with spark plugs. Still runs like new.
@jamesnicholson9893
@jamesnicholson9893 3 ай бұрын
Same, I have 2015 chevy cruz 1.4t and it runs like a top at 145,000miles on it!
@GusMahn
@GusMahn Жыл бұрын
I rebuilt 5 totaled 1st gen 1.4 Cruzes for my family. Most were purchased wrecked in front for about $3000 at 2 years old with 30,000ish miles and required $800-$2500 in parts to repair. All made it to 100,000 miles, and as you stated at the end they all needed intake manifolds, valve covers, and water outlets. Most needed ignition coils. But the work wasn't too hard and the parts were pretty cheap. GM never updated this engine to fix known issues. All '11-'16's will have the same issues and with enough time/mileage more than once. Driven right the 6-speed manuals Eco models could approach 50 mpg. Changing the in tank fuel limiting vent valve allowed these cars to hold 17 gallons of fuel. 700 miles was the furthest I ever went on one tank. It was the only car I ever need to downshift to accelerate normally at expressway speed.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 Жыл бұрын
My daughter had one. It lived in the shop. It kept blowing intake gaskets. And when the gasket blows out, it shuts down the car. It happened 3 times within 60,000 miles. Luckily, someone rear ended it and totalled it. That was the best thing that ever happened to that car.
@jimb4090
@jimb4090 Ай бұрын
Piss poor mechanic that replaces a gasket 3 times without finding root cause.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 Ай бұрын
@jimb4090 Chevy dealership and it was fixed each time under warranty.
@michaelpack7976
@michaelpack7976 18 күн бұрын
Wow, mine has 160k on original engine.
@zeroelus
@zeroelus Жыл бұрын
A midweek review! Much appreciated! And since I'm finally early to one of these videos, just wanted to wish Eric, his family and the whole Importapart team a very happy holiday season and a Merry Christmas! I know others have said the same, but I do want to credit this channel specifically with me finally feeling a bit more comfortable in working (to do basic things) with my car and also to better understand and talk to mechanics when I take my car in for maintenance. Some directly stolen techniques from Eric (using the handle of a hammer to tap out delicate things) have helped me save considerable money on my car by doing things myself. Thank you and keep up the great work!
@MadcapMachinations
@MadcapMachinations Жыл бұрын
Two engine teardowns this week. How nice
@harralk
@harralk Жыл бұрын
OMG, I just cracked up when I saw the water pump getting buried! That was awesome. This channel has the best "smiles per mile" on YT, thank you! With the skirt wear, this looks like another turbo engine that was regularly not given enough time to warm up before being pushed.
@jasontait3286
@jasontait3286 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I have a 2017 Chevy Cruze. In the 172,000 miles we've owned it, I have replaced tires, brakes, rotors, sparks plugs. It has been the most reliable car I have ever owned.
@cossiemk2
@cossiemk2 Жыл бұрын
I have been working for a GM dealership for 28 years now. The previous of this engine the X10 and 12XE had chain problems. This engine has coolant leaking issues like the waterpump and waterhousing. But I have NEVER seen an engine fail mechanically! Yes the valve cover might leak after 60k miles, but we NEVER had a chain failure , they don't consume a lot of oil either. These engines were introduced in 2014 IIRC and are still in our dealership every day, NO mechanical problems to speak of. They suffer from coolanat leaks like said in the video but they probabably drove it until until it seized to an halt!
@parkerr080
@parkerr080 10 ай бұрын
They do consume oil if the one part of the intake fails but its an easy fix
@jmiodus9610
@jmiodus9610 10 ай бұрын
Four generations in our family have given up junk GM and Ford years ago and have been extremely happy with Honda and Toyota. You get what you pay for.
@nathanl5010
@nathanl5010 10 ай бұрын
Yep, most failures are because people don't fix coolant leaks and overheat them.
@Ruggliff
@Ruggliff 9 ай бұрын
Tell that to the 4 exhaust manifolds that cracked, 2 valve covers, and 2 water pumps that failed in my fiancé's cruze. Hell, about the only problem it didn't have was a coolant leak.
@nathanl5010
@nathanl5010 9 ай бұрын
@gufftroad77 those have nothing to do with the engine. Those are components bolted to the engine. Garrett manifolds do crack.
@FlannalPlaids
@FlannalPlaids Жыл бұрын
I do work on the side and have done work on a 2012 Cruze. I always come to your channel to research teardowns and listen to your experience! This specific car has been well maintained and has almost 250K with no significant engine work. Love your videos and always appreciate the work you do! Thank you Eric!
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 Жыл бұрын
250k miles, what is that in valve covers, I mean PCV valves..... ?
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
oil vapor that solidified in the valve cover basically@@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@2strokeFORever
@2strokeFORever Жыл бұрын
​@@commonsenseisdeadin2024external PCV for the win. Should be the first thing anybody that owns one of these should do
@kevinkelley3657
@kevinkelley3657 Жыл бұрын
Aggressive tuning is the killer of ALOT of these newer, Direct Injected TurboCharged engines. Once the head bolt stretch and the cylinder head warps, all kinda stupidity starts to happen.
@johnhenryholiday4964
@johnhenryholiday4964 Жыл бұрын
There are many engines with a bad rap.... it has to do with care and driving habits.... I own a cadillac with a northstar engine.... I take exacting care of the car and have had no issues save (1) and that was fairly easy to repair....
@Arthurzeiro
@Arthurzeiro Жыл бұрын
Never in a million years did I expect to hear the word Tapioca in this channel, truly a man of culture we're watching here.
@thomasmeisch5692
@thomasmeisch5692 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of them that bought new 2011 Chevy Cruze took care of it with oil changes every 5000, Followed manufacturers recommended fluid changes with the exception of the transmission which I drained and refilled every 30,000 miles and I'm happily still driving it with 260,000 miles. I'm also thoroughly impressed With the body on this I don't know what paint Chevy used on this but I live in Michigan and after all that time no rust. My daughter owns a 2014 and my sister a 2016 I maintenance both of those vehicles the same way I did my 2011 Bolt vehicles bought new and over 100,000 miles now trouble free so there is definitely something to be said about correct maintenance on these engines and that 6 speed transmission as well
@kayemtee5312
@kayemtee5312 Жыл бұрын
Bought one new in a 2014 Sonic six-speed manual. Just gave it to a relative with 125K and almost no problems (plastic coolant parts and coil/plugs). Changed oil per manufacturer recommendation. Great usable power with manual transmission, never used a drop of oil, 36 mpg. Great engine if you care for it.
@nthgth
@nthgth 11 ай бұрын
Always liked the Sonic, especially manual. Nice to know they're good if you take care of them.
@tonycj7860
@tonycj7860 11 ай бұрын
Any particular maintenance regiment that you'd recommend? Or just change out fluids and filters in a timely manner?
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 11 ай бұрын
@@tonycj7860 I did the initial oil change on a Cruze Eco and the oil came out black as tar. This was when the 'change oil' warning came on and this owner was a salesman who drove the mountains in PA and Maryland daily...so he was putting lots of hard miles on the car. He wanted the cheapest oil available but I talked him into the good synthetic which should be used on any turbo...then the best suggestion was to use Premium fuel only. He was shocked because it was more expensive...but he'd kept track of every fuel stop so I challenged him to try the Premium and see if his mileage didn't improve enough to more than cover the additional cost. Next oil change the oil looked a LOT better and he was amazed that using Premium actually DID save him money from the better gas mileage he was getting. I'd shown him the oil that came out and explained that the knock sensor retards the ignition timing when it detects detonation. Running 87 octane means that the timing is retarded all the time...which makes the exhaust temperature skyrocket which then cooks the oil in the turbo. Using 93 keeps the timing up which keeps the oil temps down and the oil a LOT happier. Also is easier on all the plastic and head gaskets and in 140,000 miles when I left that garage we'd only had to replace one gasket that started leaking on the oil filter housing IIRC. If you run one of these little turbo motors...please use good synthetic oil and run 93 octane fuel and in the end you'll thank me. :)
@skurtov
@skurtov 10 ай бұрын
​@@tonycj7860just keep up on the maintenance and do the PCV fix from the forums. All the coolant lines and components are easy to fix when there's a leak. Mine went 160k miles without much headache.
@brijohnson6660
@brijohnson6660 10 ай бұрын
issue in teardown was it overheated. that aside, the oil cooler broke on removal, but otherwise this video did not make the engine look bad to me. If I owned one, I would get a buzzer for overheat condition added or just really watch for a bad thermostat (after 8-10 years) or failing WP. Many engines can survive a little overheat but apparently not this one.
@backcountryrider2643
@backcountryrider2643 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has commuted with both a 6 speed sonic hatch and auto Cruze with this motor and has grown quite fond of them, your closing statements absolutely hit the nail on the head. As long as you can maintain them they’re a cheap little commuter. The 14’ Cruze I’m running now is loaded with remote start and heated leather and I snagged that for $700. Replacing the thermostat and coolant neck with aluminum replacements will remove two faults from these engines.
@toolwithintention
@toolwithintention Жыл бұрын
Dude I’ve been looking to get one What else do you know?
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 Жыл бұрын
Don't hotdog the crap out of em or drive em like a pissed off redneck...keep good fluids in em, run MotorKote, and almost ALL engines will last a long time...NEVER...EVER....EVER...run them hot!!!!
@backcountryrider2643
@backcountryrider2643 Жыл бұрын
@@toolwithintention Well, sorry in advance if this ends up reading like I’m rambling lol. Stay a way from 2011 and 2012 model years for multiple reasons but including the fact that on the manual transmission they had smaller bearings for the main shafts that when combined to the small oil capacity and poor heat dissipation abilities of the trans in stock form will eventually fail. My sonic ended up losing 3rd gear and I suspect it was due to a failing bearing causing deflection. Look for low boost codes and cat efficiency codes when you buy them because low boost usually means a cracked turbofold. The cat efficiency code (if it has a cat) can mean that the pistons are cracked between the ring grooves and allowing the boost to pressurize the crank case and blow oil by the rings when you back out of it and the throttle closes. My sonic had this happen after rev limiter runs in the snow so I parked it. These cars say they can run on regular but I later found on the forums that they really need premium and this likely contributed to the failure when combined with running it hard. If you buy one needing a turbo replace all of the lines going to it as they can become restricted and actually cause a turbo failure. Another thing worth mentioning would be the valve cover/ intake pcv setup that is prone to failure which will cause the diaphragm to fail on the valve cover leading to running issues. Lastly, and the reason I got my current Cruze for $700, the bolt that holds the ground for the coil can come loose and cause random stalling/no start issues. I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting but those are some of the core common issues along with what I stated previously.
@march24-lp4pv
@march24-lp4pv Жыл бұрын
Shame too because I'm not a GM fan but I always thought these were the best looking small cars GM ever produced.
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV 8 ай бұрын
Ooof i got the 2012 manaul trans and im at 150k lol 😅 everything is seemingly fine tho sometimes when shifting to revers the shifter doesnt quite go all the way in. I recognize this and have never forced it or removed my foot from the clutch​, i just move the shifter to nuetral and then it usually goes into reverse just fine.. i do imagine this little issue will become more frequent and difficult eventually tho 🤔@backcountryrider2643
@pizzaparty-r1c
@pizzaparty-r1c Жыл бұрын
I have 2013 1.4 cruze with 112k miles. No problems at all. I bought it new, followed break-in procedures, and kept up with all maintenance intervals. Still runs like new. However, I did a tune on it and was surprised at how hot the engine runs at 'normal' temps. These engines run at 220 - 230 ℉. Insanely hot! The thermostat is electrically controlled and can be adjusted via a tune. I set mine to 180℉. I guarantee the high engine temps are what destroy these engines.
@infosneakr
@infosneakr Жыл бұрын
There was a study that shows higher engine temperatures equals less wear.
@MrJames1549
@MrJames1549 Жыл бұрын
@@infosneakr I believe the higher running temperature has more to do with lowering the emissions.
@pizzaparty-r1c
@pizzaparty-r1c Жыл бұрын
@@infosneakr You're kinda dumb, huh?
@pizzaparty-r1c
@pizzaparty-r1c Жыл бұрын
@@carstennobody7047 I get 40-45 mpg at 60 mph now that the engine doesn't run hot. Unless the engine is made from some alien metal, then engines run best at 180℉ because of thermal expansion of the current metals that today's engines are made of. The 1.4L was designed to break from the high temp. Hence high failure rate and heat problems. GM knows what they are doing. If their cars lasted forever, no one would buy new cars from them nor could GM rip off customers at the dealership maintenance shops. Its all about scamming people of their money. Get out of your bubble.
@Alobster1
@Alobster1 Жыл бұрын
Any engine should be able to reach 112k miles no problems with proper maintenance, this doesn't really tell me much.
@scooterwoodley195
@scooterwoodley195 Жыл бұрын
The water pump funeral was very touching.
@andrewallason4530
@andrewallason4530 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the Viking Funeral. Maybe for a Volvo or SAAB 😜
@HarrySach
@HarrySach Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a tombstone for our dear departed water pump. Lol nevermind, there it is 😂
@blackmane0073
@blackmane0073 Жыл бұрын
I cried a little.... :)
@specialed1
@specialed1 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@michaelmilitello5644
@michaelmilitello5644 Жыл бұрын
Where can I send flowers?
@509brown
@509brown Жыл бұрын
OMG...a master poet, great and amazing recycler. We're all so fortunate to have found you, Eric!
@CJ-mh6yn
@CJ-mh6yn Жыл бұрын
We have one of these engines and haven't had any issues with it. 115,000 miles and still running strong.
@paulhenderson1462
@paulhenderson1462 11 ай бұрын
124,000 miles, and no issues at all. It all comes down to proper maintenance. It's a very smooth engine with plenty of power. Highly recommended!
@tonycj7860
@tonycj7860 11 ай бұрын
Any particular maintenance regiment that you'd recommend? Or just change out fluids and filters in a timely manner?
@CJ-mh6yn
@CJ-mh6yn 11 ай бұрын
​@@tonycj7860Just change the fluids regularly and use a high end filter. I prefer the Fram filter and full synthetic oil.
@emer07jiffy
@emer07jiffy 11 ай бұрын
​@paulhenderson1462 my mother had one, cooling system failed at 30k engine went pop at 60k. Engine went pop at 80k again, then at 120k transmission and engine went pop
@emer07jiffy
@emer07jiffy 11 ай бұрын
​@@CJ-mh6ynfram isnt high end use wix they manufacture k&n
@soldi1613
@soldi1613 Жыл бұрын
Thx forr your teardown Video. I work since 97 in a Opel Car Shop in Germany and know these Engines. Till now i've got not much problems with these engines, only waterpump, thermostat or turbos since now. But never stop learning and say thx 4 the Video. Sry 4 bad english.
@nthgth
@nthgth 11 ай бұрын
Only cosmetic errors and your meaning is 100% clear so you're all good, buddy. Much better than my German, haha.
@strongb05
@strongb05 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm everything said here. Have a 12 cruze because it was an "upgrade" from a 10 corolla. This one had a coolant leak that we thought was the water pump but turned out to be the thermostat (it seriously looked like the coolant was coming from the pump). If only GM had used metal instead of plastic on the cooling system I think a lot of these issues wouldn't be as bad. However, there is no excuse for the location of the oil cooler. You can't tell it from this video but it's located behind the turbo and cat right on the block. Destined to be cooked alive and leak (which they all do).
@lka1988
@lka1988 Жыл бұрын
Going from a Japanese car to an American car is *never* an upgrade.
@thecommonsenseconservative5576
@thecommonsenseconservative5576 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 once you own a Toyota there is no upgrade only downgrade
@strongb05
@strongb05 Жыл бұрын
@@lka1988 The Corolla was very reliable no argument there, especially compared to the Cruze. But the cruze is actually more fun to drive and has a lot more creature comforts (which you might expect being 2 model year newer). Maybe if the corolla has been a manual it would have been more engaging to drive.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
@@lka1988 I guess it depends on which exact cars. Where the Lexus LF-A is a beautifully crafted machine, the Dodge Viper is better at doing burnouts. So there are pros and cons. 😉
@vascoribeiro69
@vascoribeiro69 Жыл бұрын
Around 2017 I considered to change my 2003 Corolla 1.4 for a more recent Cruze 1.4. My mechanic just said "don't". I stayed with the Corolla until last year with almost 260000km and running on gas and LPG. Changed it for a brand new Mercedes A Class 180D limousine AMG line. In Europe, of course.
@christesta
@christesta Жыл бұрын
I had one of these in a '12 Cruze. Ran into all the common problems of water pump, thermostat gasket, turbo oil feed leak, and the dreaded pcv failure that's built into the valve cover. Had everything fixed under warranty and did a diy pcv check valve bypass kit and replaced coolant outlet with an aluminum one..everything else ran great for 160k after. Definitely had its flaws but overall cheap fixes that didn't come back if done right.
@gersonhay984
@gersonhay984 Жыл бұрын
All the work and only 160k My toy has double and just basic oil changes and such. Tacoma 2005 4.0
@keithbellair9508
@keithbellair9508 Жыл бұрын
@@gersonhay984ok but its still a 90 horsepower toyota that has to rev 4,000 rpm to get over a hill… junk.
@EddieJarnowski
@EddieJarnowski 11 ай бұрын
Oh yea lol. I had to replace the pcv valve too. Its built in to the intake manifold so you have to replace the whole thing. What an absolutely stupid design. Why would they do this? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
@brianbrannanHVACTech
@brianbrannanHVACTech 11 ай бұрын
@@keithbellair9508enjoy your GM shitholes buddy😂
@joshsnipes6283
@joshsnipes6283 10 ай бұрын
PCV bypass kit for the win!
@nathangreer8219
@nathangreer8219 Жыл бұрын
As a former owner of a 2011 Cruze.... can confirm the milkshake of death and the $2k spent for a replacement junkyard engine.
@dkmorris713
@dkmorris713 Жыл бұрын
Thats why I LOVED my 2012. 1.8 litre big block bro. It was actually faster top end compaired to a 1.4 as well. Too bad it was a base model which didn't include cruise control. A car called the Cruze that doesn't have cruise control!??? How is that even possible when it was only a matter of adding the buttons on the steering wheel and telling the computer to do the thing?
@vilefly
@vilefly Жыл бұрын
@@dkmorris713 That's when you say, "Fuck off, engineering accountants". Oh no. We can't have the base model upstage the premium model.....let's take away the cruise control, it'll be ironic.
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott Жыл бұрын
Could be worse. My 2015 Kia 2.0 engine died. Junkyards wanted $5K for pulls... with high mileage and unknown issues. It was crazy. Turns out that they had such a high failure rate that people became desperate for engines.... thus the high price tag.
@sangerzonnvolt6712
@sangerzonnvolt6712 Жыл бұрын
for my car it's written in the manual that you should change spark plugs every 20k miles and water pump and timing belt every 60k miles plus usually you should change oil with filter every year
@vilefly
@vilefly Жыл бұрын
@@sangerzonnvolt6712 Change the oil every 3 months or 3000 miles. If you don't, you will be hunting for an engine, too. I was there when they changed the oil change interval in the manual from 3000mi to 5000mi without changing the type of oil to be used. Yearly oil changes = death.
@bradotr4187
@bradotr4187 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said purchased new and well taken care of. I’ve had my cruise since 2014. I do all my own maintenance and care and should hit 400,000 miles this winter.Mine is a stick shift however, and I think that has helped me drive it more carefully.
@karld.5587
@karld.5587 11 ай бұрын
I have the 1.8L four banger in my sonic. It has 84K on it. Oil changed every year. I actively avoided a 1.4 liter Turbo to dodge all of the old turbo issues. It's slow but it has been a solid performer. Thanks for the video!
@aforce1jp
@aforce1jp Жыл бұрын
I had a 2014 chevy sonic with this engine. I owned it from brand new to about 70,000 miles when it was totaled in an accident. I am anal about oil changes (used only amsoil after break in) and had zero trouble with the motor itself...at about 35,000 miles', I got an overheat warning light and pulled over to find coolant pouring out onto the ground. I believe it was a heater hose, on the top backside of the engine, was rubbing on a motor lifting eye and finally wore through. Some engines are overbuilt and can stand neglect; some will last a long time only if very well maintained. My motor never burned a drop of oil, had water pump leaking issues or gave any hint of impending trouble. Despite the low HP numbers, it had great low rpm torque for a tiny four banger
@chestnut01111
@chestnut01111 Жыл бұрын
Repaired a blown head gasket on a non turbo version of this engine here in the UK last year. The budget was tight and the car was going to be sold, so I machined the head to get it flat, 25 thou off it before it cleaned up. Ran OK, dont know if it still is though. The slot in the end of the chain tensioner plunger is for a locking rod which can be inserted through the timing cover access hole.
@benbrown2119
@benbrown2119 Жыл бұрын
Good, informative video. Your title image asked, "The worst 4 cylinder GM ever made?" The answer is No. Every other GM 4 cylinder can vie for second worst, because the original 4 cylinder Vega engine will hold that title forever.
@keithbellair9508
@keithbellair9508 Жыл бұрын
What about the honda will oil dillution that are toast in 50,000 miles? But becUse it says homda the clowns think its bullet proof
@scott1564
@scott1564 Жыл бұрын
Whoever wants to make a truly informative and well researched "worst GM 4 cylinder engine" video has got his work cut out for him. I can't think of a single good GM 4 cylinder engine ever made. In fact, I can only think of a few good V6 motors (though some of those, like the 4.3) were quite good. To get to a decent GM 4, you either have to go back decades, find one where they "sawed off" part of another one (like the 4.3 was with the 350), or they absorbed it through acquisition like with Opel. Comparing GM's small engines to Toyota's and Honda's is a fools game. The worst of the Japanese motors are light years better than GM's best.
@keithbellair9508
@keithbellair9508 Жыл бұрын
@@scott1564 depends on what you consider good. Hondas and toyotas were always woefully undersized and underpowered. And it made little sense to build a motor that reliable.. the car body was rusted out well before the motor. So whats the point..
@-BuddyGuy
@-BuddyGuy 11 ай бұрын
​@@keithbellair9508 They don't salt the roads in Japan. Unless your chassis is not made of steel the rust belt will attack any car. Toyota engines have adequate power. Usually a lot more specific power in their naturally aspirated engines than anything made in the US. Smoother power delivery, better refinement, more reliable. Way more fuel efficient. Usually 5-10 years ahead technologically. In the case of a Toyota Camry or Corolla their engines are the perfect fit for what those cars are.
@keithbellair9508
@keithbellair9508 11 ай бұрын
@@-BuddyGuy toyta ahead on tech and adequate power 🤣🤣🤣… still doesnt have a turbo i4..
@dmcnare
@dmcnare 8 ай бұрын
I've watched quite possibly hundreds of hours of your videos (often when I'm half asleep I admit) but here is what I love about the work that you do. I have a friend in his late 70s who was tempted to buy a car with this engine, and called me to come down and look at the car with him. To be honest I didn't like it, from first look to test drive. I wanted to discourage him but didn't have much information to rely on. Searching for this engine on KZbin, sure enough your video came up! Now I can explain more clearly why he should stear clear.
@spinsall87
@spinsall87 Жыл бұрын
2014 cruze LTZ owner here.. 1.4L turbo. Bought used with 78k miles on it, now second owner. So far it's a great car. Now, I will tell you after i bought it. The oil pan was re-sealed. New front crank seal. MSD coil pack. Iridium plugs. And new belt with tensioner. And full maintenance service including transmission I noticed some oil consumption. Pcv failure in the intake. And the valve cover, which was replaced as well. Oil was everywhere. Intercooler, intake and charge air piping. Ordered a catch can and pcv fix from supercruzes (he has a YT channel as well) Used my borescope and found that the wastegate was cracked around the valve mating surface in the turbine side. Went to supercruzes again. Ordered a black widow stage 2 turbo with upgraded wastegate. Aftermarket intercooler and new charge air piping. Then i started having coolant leak issues. one at the thermostat housing side and one on the driver side of the cylinder head. both parts, PLASTIC. i took a gamble and ordered replacement parts on amazon that were aluminum. just an FYI, if you do this. invest in an o ring assortment kit from a local auto parts store. they dont include the right diameter thickness o rings in the kits. and also, red scotchbrite pads are your friend. they will help remove any machining burs and will tell you if your mating surfaces are flat ( flat bar stock and fine grit sandpaper will cure that issue) and lastly, do not use the coolant sensors that comes in the kits either. the ECM doesn't recognize them. either re use your old ones or buy new ones from local auto parts store. All of this was done before the next service date. I'm a die hard Mobil 1 oil consumer. And the inside of this engine is a night and day difference internally and mechanically, since all of this work has been done. may seem biased on. but the results speak for themselves. It purs so smooth at idle and accelerates so nicely over what it was when I bought it. 10k car and put roughly 4k in it. It's ultimately what you're willing to invest, to make a vehicle last. And keep up with your maintenance
@jugo1944
@jugo1944 9 ай бұрын
That sounds like a shitload of repairs for a 78k engine
@spinsall87
@spinsall87 9 ай бұрын
@jugo1944 yes and no. In the long game. If I continually do the regular service and maintenance throughout the rest of this cars life. It will be well worth it. Regular maintenance is a small cost to pay vs failure and fortunes to replace major parts. While not 100% guaranteed to eliminate component failure. You're leaps and bounds ahead of the curve and have a whole lot better advantage from facing failures. Mind you, aside from the turbo replacement and minor cosmetic trimming to fit the aftermarket intercooler. The rest of the work was very minimal labor intensive. Granted if you have the skill and/or the confidence to do it. 78k miles can easily last to 200k plus miles
@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq
@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq 9 ай бұрын
Junk then
@BigChillingGoingDown
@BigChillingGoingDown 8 ай бұрын
This is a textbook example of sunken cost fallacy. You are 14k into a vehicle that is worth 8k at best. I'm so sorry.
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV 8 ай бұрын
​@@jugo1944well he could have just done nothing but oil changes till it blew up at 160k and then got on the internet and said this car sucks like most these people lol 😅 But instead he put 4k$ in it and it'll be running strong and sounding great at 250k.
@mphilleo
@mphilleo Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, thanks for the midweek video! I'm not sure if you guys have one in your shop, but I'd love to see you take a machinist's straight edge to check the level of some of these heads. Along with your oil filter analysis, it'd be another fun "smoking gun hunt." Keep up the great work and all the water pump gags! EDIT: I posted this without watching the next minute of the video where you mentioned the straight edge. Dangit! 😅
@BarretKruse
@BarretKruse Жыл бұрын
I think you are psychic! What's Eric going to do in his next video? ( I think he might take apart another engine, don't tell! 🤐😉)
@jasonsanders3397
@jasonsanders3397 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha lol 👍
@ericcindycrowder7482
@ericcindycrowder7482 Жыл бұрын
The gen 1 Chevrolet Volt (2011-2015) also uses this 1.4L has a range extending generator. It’s tuned a little different, it never exceeds 4000 RPM and is designed to run in it’s sweet spot most of the time, which is 1400 to 2400 RPM with 80% to 100% throttle opening. The engine in my 2011 has been perfect, but I regularly change the oil and keep it very clean. In the Volt application, it is normally aspirated, uses a normal screw on oil filter mounted on the cast aluminum oil pan. And there’s lots of other differences. Because it redlines at 4000 (or 4800) RPM, it has very mild cams, and soft valve springs. My Volt has over 150,000 miles but the ICE (engine) has probably only 60,000 or 70,000 miles I’m not sure exactly. As long as you keep the oil clean and at the right level, it will run for a long, LONG time. I ALWAYS check the oil level when I add gasoline (which might be every 3-4 months) and sometimes I will just pull the dip stick for the hell of it. I have never NEVER had to add a drop of oil between oil change intervals. And I typically change the oil once a year which is about 3000-4000 miles of ICE operation. Most of my driving in the Volt is under battery EV so the engine is just dead weight going around town hanging out and not doing anything lol.
@Imapersonv3
@Imapersonv3 Жыл бұрын
I'm willing to bet that the volt application also doesn't have the oil cooler setup that the turbo model does. Which is where 90% of the oil/water mix happens when the o-rings fail inside and create milkshake, overheating, all that fun stuff.
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
it's the almost the same oil cooler with a slight modification for the turbo coolant pipe@@Imapersonv3 , nothing to worry about, just change the gaskets once in a while
@cridenh2owo257
@cridenh2owo257 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 and been having problems with misfires on idle. Tried replacing spark plugs and the coil pack, the damn thing just doesn't wanna idle right. 🤷‍♀️ I've kind of given up as the engine just doesn't idle much as it will usually just shut off
@cridenh2owo257
@cridenh2owo257 Жыл бұрын
The Volt's drivetrain includes an Electric water pump for the engine (which allows circulating engine heat even when it's not actively running) so the water pump issue is eliminated
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
did u clean the little idle hole in the throttle body?@@cridenh2owo257
@skiplambert4693
@skiplambert4693 Жыл бұрын
I wait with anticipation for your videos, because you almost always nail the problem! The knowledge you have and share is great!
@fernandosanchez9503
@fernandosanchez9503 5 ай бұрын
the more i learn about the chevy cruze the more thankful i’ve become that the only thing wrong with mine at 100,000 mile mark was the valve cover🙏🏽 hopefully i can keep her running a lot longer with good maintenance and care
@cdofm
@cdofm 4 ай бұрын
I have owned my cruze new since 2012 and was working as a traveling salesman and the car has had some minor issues with the plastic water outlet housing so I changed it out for an aluminum one and one water pump. My 16 year old twins are now using and abusing this thing and it is still going strong. Maintenance is key for any engine to make it last.
@scooterwoodley195
@scooterwoodley195 Жыл бұрын
That growth from the crank case vent was a rare oil tree from the GMsuctus-alotus family.
@specialed1
@specialed1 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@triplehelper6944
@triplehelper6944 Жыл бұрын
I figured someone lost their fake mustache 🥸
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was Baby Groot.
@jodygwiinn1233
@jodygwiinn1233 7 ай бұрын
Its the plastic melted from thremstat housing when stuck closed
@TheCrosscrescent99
@TheCrosscrescent99 Жыл бұрын
I worked on a Buick 1.4 today and was thinking “man these things are just f*****g junk. I hope Idocars does another one of these pieces of s**t soon” and my prayers were answered thank you Eric
@FixingWithFriends
@FixingWithFriends Жыл бұрын
How bad was it?
@paulstandaert5709
@paulstandaert5709 Жыл бұрын
@@FixingWithFriends I can tell you. Their PCV systems are absolute garbage. The cars tend to generate an "underboost" code which is fixed by a new turbocharger. I don't know what was wrong with the old one, but apparently, it demands a check engine light when they don't quite make the turboboost they are supposed to. The thermostat housings are garbage and fail regularly, the oil coolers behind the turbocharger leak all the time, and the latest Cruze I worked on had a failed water pump at something pretty decent like 216,xxx miles. Well, the pump was fine. The O-ring around it shrunk and started leaking. The last Buick Encore I was into was leaking coolant at the banjo fitting at the turbocharger. Heaven forbid they use a copper crush washer instead of a steel washer with a rubber insert which shrunk and started the leak. That was a big deal to get done. 40,xxx miles on that car, and it was a 2018. The "hard parts" of the engines seem good. No valvetrain issues, no bearing issues, and not an unusual amount of heads cracking or head gaskets failing.
@MWilk098
@MWilk098 10 ай бұрын
@@paulstandaert5709 People put turbos on them because they are incapable of fixing things. They are tough ass engines.
@tuculoguey3530
@tuculoguey3530 Жыл бұрын
Cruze/sonic package Water pump , thermostat , by pass & coolant lines , valve cover w integrated pcv With the occasional turbo.
@Bailey-k2j
@Bailey-k2j 7 күн бұрын
One of best engines ever made. But they run very hot. Thermostat is set to 220℉. So, alot of random problems arise due to the extreme heat. GM designed it to fail. I tuned my 2013 Cruze and also set the thermostat to 180℉ and set the radiator fan to come on sooner. 11 years and 120k miles later, I haven't had any problems at all with the drivetrain. Only issues I've had is the window regulator brackets cracking. But the engine is awesome and extremely cheap to maintain and get parts.
@RED121572
@RED121572 Жыл бұрын
I picked up a 2012 Cruze in 2019 with 108k on it. Under the oil cap, there appeared to be no oil varnish and the lobe that I could see, looked fine. ( possible unicorn) It leaked coolant and oil from everywhere. Spent quite a few hundred bucks replacing seals and hoses. Since ownership, Ive driven it as if it would throw at any time. Oil changes are every 3k. Trans fluid changes are at every 15k. Currently, it has 186k on it. Runs fine and idles smooth. I run the heater on high for a minute or three to let it idle down before each shutoff. Far as I know, the only major part that has been replaced is the value cover. Im shooting for 250,000 miles. My buddies bet me a dollar that its not going to make it. Also, I enjoy your channel.
@RwP223
@RwP223 Жыл бұрын
My 2013 engine has been rock solid, max tuned with all bolt on power mods for 110k miles. M32 manual trans, changed the fluid a lot. I autocross race it and beat on it WOT every drive. I'm the mechanic, tech, calibrator and I do engineering for a living. 130k on the clock, 1 valve cover 1 intake 1 turbo, parts total $350.
@DennisPulford
@DennisPulford 7 ай бұрын
@SuperNoticer
@SuperNoticer 7 ай бұрын
Lol
@josephchewning919
@josephchewning919 Жыл бұрын
DID WE JUST GET A MID WEEK TEARDOWN??? Why do I get so excited for engine teardowns??
@josephchewning919
@josephchewning919 Жыл бұрын
These things leak coolant from everywhere though. I’ve fixed one, pressure tested, found another one, and repeated about 5 times on one of these cars once. All the plastic coolant passages would just crumble and all the gaskets were flat.
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
you can replace the rear water coolant near the gearbox with a metal one, the hoses are very few and almost no bends in them and they can be replaced with silicone ones when they fail, pretty much bullet proof cooling system once you replace hoses and modify the thermostat to open at 80 or 90 C instead of 103@@josephchewning919
@Shiny_Dragonite
@Shiny_Dragonite Жыл бұрын
Because watching Eric tear engines down is equal parts educational, entertainment, and relaxing. I look forward to 7:45 PM (when they usually show up for me) every Saturday. I even set up an auto-clicker to refresh my browser while I go grab a beer if it's close.
@ohmyonionpie
@ohmyonionpie Жыл бұрын
i watch them religiously 😂
@OgamiItto70
@OgamiItto70 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's _The 12 Teardowns of Christmas_ or something.
@peterwilding1203
@peterwilding1203 Жыл бұрын
Love midweek teardowns. This was such a contrast to last weekend''s BMW!
@BenKlassen1
@BenKlassen1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have a 2017 Cruze. I change the oil with full synthetic every 3k miles and I check the engine fluids. I hope to make it last.
@nthgth
@nthgth 11 ай бұрын
Do what you can. I drove one from that generation a couple of times, it seemed like a great car. Fun to drive too.
@BenKlassen1
@BenKlassen1 11 ай бұрын
@@nthgth Thanks. Yeah, they're peppy for a four-banger here at 4500 feet. Not a speed demon, but adequate.
@leebornaman5508
@leebornaman5508 Жыл бұрын
Love the way you just whiz those tension guides. RIP water pump. Strange how interesting your vids are.
@mykolapliashechnykov8701
@mykolapliashechnykov8701 Жыл бұрын
I drove a '13 rental Cruze with this engine and about 100K miles on it for a few months. Sweet little car, very sensitive to the gas though - once filled with 91, the range meter would jump up significantly. I drive in a very economic fashion so was able to extract about 40-45 MPG from it.
@user_name_took
@user_name_took Жыл бұрын
I worked at autozone for about a year and I had a couple customers who warrantied turbo after turbo for these things
@mahcooharper9577
@mahcooharper9577 Жыл бұрын
Rapt to have a bonus teardown this week, and yes I managed to convince a friend to get rid of their Cruze before this happened. You're right, they're not always maintained well - but you're also right that there are lots of cars that live that life and they don't give the trouble these give. Love the headstone by the way. ;)
@Guido_Sarducci007
@Guido_Sarducci007 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. Wife drives 2015 Sonic RS man trans. Second engine due to rad cap departing at turnpike speed. Accumulated spare parts just in case. Will be sold next Spring as it nears 37xxx miles. Hate the imports but I cant ignore their superior quality. Thanks!
@dandantheminiman
@dandantheminiman 9 ай бұрын
worked as a vauxhall master tech for many many years and i love these engines as you are certain for good spanner work with these. they take abuse and just keep going. they rattle, leak and over heat but its better to fix these then just service and mot all day.
@edrannou3914
@edrannou3914 Жыл бұрын
The brown gasket cement reminds me of the old Permatex head gasket sealer, available in a bottle or tube that we used in the 70's. The tube was filled with an extremely thick paste and was hard to use. Much nicer now using RTV.
@ronsereda4242
@ronsereda4242 Жыл бұрын
I still have some in a small can with a brush aplicator. From the 70's for sure or maybe earlier. I'm 75 and it was my dads! Has a nice pine tar smell. I still use it lightly from time to time if I have a gasket that just won't stay in place during installation.
@jasonlouis5498
@jasonlouis5498 Жыл бұрын
I think you mean Shellac? I use that on diff cases with paper gaskets and it never fails.
@ronsereda4242
@ronsereda4242 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonlouis5498 No, I'm familiar with the shellac. This old stuff is really thick and extremely sticky with a great pine tar smell in a stubby tin can. I don't think plastic tubes were even invented yet when they made this stuff. I don't have it here to get the official name. Regardless, some of that old stuff worked really well. I still have some "Door-Ease. Stainless Stick Lubricant" door latch grease in a thumb size, pre plastic, metal tube. I bought it in the '60's and still works good.
@sunbeam8866
@sunbeam8866 Жыл бұрын
@@ronsereda4242Yeah. I remember that distinctive fragrance. Probably from some long-banned chemical-solvent! 🙂
@timlee4204
@timlee4204 Жыл бұрын
@@ronsereda4242 Permatex is still available in Australia in a stubby plastic can with a brush attached inside the lid.
@351cat
@351cat Жыл бұрын
I worked at a dealer that LOVED buying the turbo Cruzes. I've done so many damn Thermostat housings and exhaust housings and timing covers. They were always annoyed at how much work they required to be anything resembling decent, but at the same time they got them for dirt cheap at auctions.
@MWilk098
@MWilk098 10 ай бұрын
"how much work" - like 300 bucks and an hour or two.
@351cat
@351cat 10 ай бұрын
Notice I said they were annoyed. I enjoyed the relatively easy money. For as crappy as they are, they are fairly simple to wrench on.
@jpurcha
@jpurcha 10 ай бұрын
My estimate for timing cover gasket (found timing cover gasket leaking) $1949.37 CAD. Replace oil cooler (found oil cooler leaking) $1979.88 from last Friday.🤒@@MWilk098
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good assessment. Cost of ownership is what it boils down to.
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 Жыл бұрын
Cost of a valve cover every oil change adds up!
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver Жыл бұрын
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 or a 10k premium of a comparable car or 13 mpg.
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
just reroute the PCV and you'll be fine with the valve cover@@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
@commonsenseisdeadin2024 Жыл бұрын
@@Land_Raver you lost me on what you’re referencing and I’m unsure the context. I took your “that’s a pretty good assessment” was to “I would avoid these” or any other variants of him saying they are pieces of shit and it’s not cheaper to own considering cost of ownership. It’s not mentioned but I think it’s pretty well known that these cars had a massive flaw with the PCV which was incorporated into the valve cover…. Hence my joke. The last response confuses me because now I’m unsure we were in agreeing like I had thought 😂
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver Жыл бұрын
@commonsenseisdeadin2023 I was thinking about those folks who only buy toyotas due to reliability but don't consider the running costs associated with them. I'd agree that this is a terrible choice of engine if you were trying to focus on cost of ownership.
@trizzuth34
@trizzuth34 Жыл бұрын
Love your teardowns Eric! As luck would have it, the LOUDEST Car in my entire town is one of these, I think a Cruze/Sonic with 4 doors and a gigantic turbo complete with pops n bangs tune. It backfires so freakin loud it sounds like someone firing off an AK-47 in the neighborhood. Was pretty shocked the first time I finally identified what the heck was making all that noise only to see a tiny chevy cruze/sonic.
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 Жыл бұрын
Overheated and warped the head....thus the replaced water pump...but it kept running hot I would bet if they treated with MotorKote (water resistant hyperlubricant) it wouldn't have rusted out as bad and a re-head gasketing and re-torquing would have fixed the issue. NEVER overheat an all aluminum engine...1st thing that goes to crap is the head gasket...every time I fixed 2 2.4L Toyota (I bought for $1500) by re-head gasketing...and they are running like a boss! Keep em coming!!!!
@sherrysweeden9025
@sherrysweeden9025 Жыл бұрын
Your commitment to the water pump shenanigans is admirable 😂
@veleriphon
@veleriphon Жыл бұрын
I've often wondered if GM's mistakes were with DexCool, as like with some Euro coolants, it has a polymer that softens plastic over time, but in typical fashion, it's also very difficult to justify. Some of GM's issues over the years have actually just been running coolant through the intake, and GM engineers not knowing how to seal that connection.
@marcISagg
@marcISagg Жыл бұрын
interesting to know does the cycle of changes matter? or is it inevitable
@veleriphon
@veleriphon Жыл бұрын
@@marcISagg When it's neglected, it's inevitable. I do think they specify less of it now, but it's still in there.
@andrewvisiko5250
@andrewvisiko5250 11 ай бұрын
This engine did have timing issues. The guides are known to fail, especially with engines that are neglected. The timing chain guides fail, and cause the engine to jump timing.
@Mozdoc
@Mozdoc Жыл бұрын
And here I am watching this and owning a 2012 Sonic LTZ with a six speed manual and it just ticked over to 150,000 miles and its still a fun little car to drive. Thing is though, with the early first models of the Sonic like this, they don't have vitals gauges. At all. The only real 'gauge' is the tachometer, with a digital number speedometer reading because the theme of the car was to be as "motorcycle inspired" as possible, so all the other important gauges that you come to expect like alternator charge and engine temperature are literally reduced to idiot lights on the dashboard and at first I found this kind of neat, but now I've come to find this stylistic choice stupid because what exactly does the light mean? As far as know its 'off is good, on is bad' for telling conditions of things that shouldn't be judged like that. In later model years they actually programmed in digital readouts that you can scroll through on the dashboard to know some vitals of your car, but for my early Sonic, I got none of that to go by. Instead I've come to be extremely in tune with my car and just giving glances under the hood for anything amiss; its actually saved me in doing so. There was one time I was faintly smelling antifreeze when parking in my garage but with nothing obvious underneath I let it go, but then began hearing coolant gurgling through the heater core and knew something was a bit wrong. A T-shaped coolant return fitting had developed a hairline crack and was bleeding the system dry, but never was there any real indicators aside from smell and sound that there was a problem, and had I not fixed this my car would've left me stranded.
@msgtdan60
@msgtdan60 Жыл бұрын
Trax, sonic and sparks don't have guages. So far we haven't had problems. We have 2 ea trax and sonic hatches and one spark manual. All bought used low mileage and I monitor the routine maintenance and each driver gets either email or text messages when due.
@davidweik5926
@davidweik5926 4 ай бұрын
I have had my Cruze with the 1.4 since 2015. It has 326k miles on it. I would say my maintenance cost have been fairly low but I have done all the work myself. 1 coil pack, 2 water pumps (1 under warranty), 1 alternator, 2 thermostat housing, 2 inlet tubes, 3 coolant reservoir return lines. 1 intake manifold, 3 valve covers. And 1 timing chain set. The car still runs great and in 5000 mile oil changes, it's down an 1/8th of a quart. Still has original turbo.
@Cultural_Supremacist
@Cultural_Supremacist 10 ай бұрын
Love these engine autopsies… there are many engines I only see once in a while and it’s really nice finding out beforehand each one’s common weaknesses… really helps streamline diagnostic and repair strategies. Thanks for making these!
@tabcan
@tabcan Жыл бұрын
Glad to see a small engine. Keep the small ones coming please.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem with these (and other similar engines) is that turbo and cheap should never be used to describe the same engine, especially when it is a higher performance engine. I know 138hp doesn’t sound like “higher performance” but you have to remember this is a 1.4L engine that is making 100hp per liter of displacement. That would be the same as a 500hp 5.0 V8. This is NOT a low stress engine, but it’s built to a significantly low budget and put in cheap cars that don’t get maintained well. Even Honda struggled with that same formula.
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 Жыл бұрын
Coyote g3 tuned, and g4 stock, make 500hp. Happily
@TurboV8boi
@TurboV8boi Жыл бұрын
I mean.. Honda was making 100hp/liter on their GSR and even the B16 engines NA back in the 90's. We have the technology.
@disphenoidal
@disphenoidal Жыл бұрын
I had and liked the Cruze with this engine. It had an issue with PCV but was not expensive to resolve, particularly with some easy to obtain aftermarket parts. Outside of that, these were underrated in my opinion.
@VideoCesar07
@VideoCesar07 11 ай бұрын
Currently own one and while it has had it's issues I find it relatively easy to work on. Currently have a coolant leak around the oil cooler ( no oil and coolant mixing thankfully ) but I am going to be replacing all the seals and o-rings with better quality ones. I think this car will last me a long time in large part due to the fact that I do check under the hood regularly and don't put off any strange sounds or weird behavior until it's too late. Unfortunately I can see people to whom regular and preventative maintenance are an afterthought having constant problems with it. It's a pretty good car that I enjoy driving and it's my first American car ever after only having Toyotas but the amount of issues in less than 70K miles shows how much the work the US car industry still has to do to catch up to Japanese cars in terms of long term reliabililty.
@seandp85
@seandp85 10 ай бұрын
2015 Chevy Cruze LT 1.4T owner here. Bought brand new and currently have 103k and the only issue I had was intake manifold and valve cover replacement which was a very inexpensive fix. Take care of it and it will take care of you.
@M10000
@M10000 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for not saying Vega engines were the worst. From my personal experience, the engine is the best thing about a Vega.
@RPS2443
@RPS2443 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2011 Cruze with that engine. Other than replacing the valve cover multiple times due to the pcv issue, it was a great car. At 230k miles and 11 years i hit a deer and that was the end for it. Like you said, if serviced regularly they weren't bad cars.
@mickleblade
@mickleblade Жыл бұрын
Hope the deer was OK..
@WrenchHead
@WrenchHead Жыл бұрын
I remember working on those under factory warranty. The 2.2/2.4 ecotecs in other applications were way better in my opinion. Did lots of water pumps and thermostat housings under warranty on the cruze. The cooling systems were prone to air locking, so you needed to vacuum fill them. With that said, any small coolant leak allowed air in, which could lead to over heating. Combined with the worthless oil life monitor and lowsy oil filter setup, it became quite the disposable car.
@lawrenceralph7481
@lawrenceralph7481 Жыл бұрын
Honestly looks like a nice layout. Too bad the ancillary components are of limited life.
@brijohnson6660
@brijohnson6660 10 ай бұрын
good, fair recap. lots of cheap cars are ragged, lots of expensive cars are babied. the oil cooler breaking in the block was bad, but this video only pointed out overheat failure.
@billagedad1
@billagedad1 Жыл бұрын
I share the aggravation......my wife HAD TO HAVE this silver 2013 Cruze LTZ; it was a nice car, but it needed constant attention, and I ended up replacing almost every sensor on it, and at 52k I got a call from her (600 miles away) that it was blowing white smoke. Dealer says it was preignition, and I never pushed her to use high octane fuel. Engine was replaced under warranty, but it gets *better*--- replacement engine (from GM) was only offered with 12/12 warranty. Good way to stand behind your craftsmanship GM! Car was fun to drive, got great mileage, and I even bypassed the boost controller so the baby turbo was able to send it a bit more.
@bilphil74
@bilphil74 Жыл бұрын
Still would like to see a 1.8 from a 2016 Chevy Sonic, and a 2.4 SRT4 that came in the 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT with the aluminum intake.
@verdele
@verdele Жыл бұрын
it's the same engine from opel of early/mid 2000 era
@MS-fs5xu
@MS-fs5xu Жыл бұрын
Agree on 1.8 l sonic engine 😅
@nthgth
@nthgth 11 ай бұрын
If that's the same engine as the Neon SRT4 I'd love that too
@rook1196
@rook1196 8 ай бұрын
Had a simliar?/same? 1.8L in my astra. 175K w/ no problems. The 1.4T, cooling issues, but relatively fine then the turbo + engine committed seppuku at 115K. Gave it to brother in law who can fix anything, w/ one exception, this car. He's been painting the town w/ oil.
@OPELfreak238
@OPELfreak238 11 ай бұрын
We have this Engines in Germany too. But with less problems. Some off this Engines have over 300.000 kilometers on it (~190.000 Meilen!) In Germany we put in new Oil all 15.000 kilometers (9.000 Meilen). Some off the Engines have problems with the valvecover and needs a new one. Some off them have rattling timing changes and needs a new one. But the most off the Engineproblems are made by the owner. They just drive short trips to the Supermarket but use the hole Power of the Engine or do not the care of the car.
@sakmoss
@sakmoss 5 ай бұрын
i also have this engine and the valve cover is terible i alredy replaced about 5of them but now i found aluminuim one from aliexpres. they aslo have thermosta with aluminuim housing, also the block where all the hoses are conecting to block. i alredy replace them and lower the thermostat operating temp to around 99-100°C original was 105-110. and every oil change i use engine flush and from 150 000km i started to add ceramic. so i hope the car will last for long time
@burningpentagram666
@burningpentagram666 Жыл бұрын
One of these days you`ll have to send a waterpump to Kentucky Ballistics. He`ll know what to do with it 😁
@andrewhixson2235
@andrewhixson2235 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2014 Cruze that had a 1.4T. It was a very cheap R title, straight from the insurance company. One of the issues was the Turbo. The housing around the waist gate was cracked, which is one of the things it's known for. The other was I went through two head gaskets until i straight edged the head, and it was warped. Which it another thing they are known for is overheating, and the head wraps quickly. I got a Dorman aftermarket turbo. And a rebuild head off of RockAuto. It has been running fine ever since. I also keep up on the maintenance. Change the oil every 5k miles.
@sesapup
@sesapup 11 ай бұрын
There's PCV problems with this engine that can require the valve cover and intake to e replaced. I recommend the Dorman kit - it comes with everything you need, including the corrugated pipe that gets brittle.
@joshsnipes6283
@joshsnipes6283 10 ай бұрын
Seconded, but I went for ZZP's kit with the catch can. Gotta obviate the PCV scrapping the entire engine somehow!
@nothingaboutme.
@nothingaboutme. Жыл бұрын
I had pretty good luck with mine in my old Cruze. I put about 130k on it with regular oil changes and no other maintenance. I think you're right though, oil maintenance is a key factor in longevity for the engine.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 Жыл бұрын
130K isn't pretty good. I have 435,000 on a cheap Hyundai that I beat on. I did regular maintenance though. 2002 Hyundai Elantra GT.
@nothingaboutme.
@nothingaboutme. Жыл бұрын
​@@TheBandit7613 would have been more if it wasn't totaled by some idiot driver
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613It’s unreal how people in 2023 still think 100k miles or so is a lot of miles. If a car is thought to be a good car if it reaches 130k miles, probably best to stay away from that model or make….I bought both of my kids land cruisers with 240k miles each…
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 Жыл бұрын
@@hokie9910 I'd buy a Landcruiser with 240K and not think twice. Probably doesn't even use oil.
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBandit7613 They do not, nor do they leak any. God bless the 2uz.
@mikeanthonybrooks
@mikeanthonybrooks Жыл бұрын
I had a 2011 Chevy Cruze with the 1.8L Ecotec, 6spd manual. It is my opinion that the 1.8 naturally aspirated engine is more reliable than the 1.4L turbo, but like you said in your video, depends on if its taken care of well. That being said, i got that car from California since 85k miles, and maintained it meticulously. Finally died at 195,000 miles by back hit by a salt truck in Illinois. During that time, it had an issue with the thermostats getting stuck open every couple years, the PCV valve failed around 120 k mi, but the problem with it is that the valve is built into the valve cover, so you can't just replace the PCV valve, you have to go out and get a $200 part from the dealership or your idle will be surging all over the place. Intake manifold variable length valve, whatever its called, failed at 180k, $2000 with parts and labor. There is a coolant passage running thru the intake manifold, so you have to drop the fluids to replace the manifold, i think thats such an unnecessary design. Honestly probably because i maintained it really well, that car was amazing to me. Even with a stick, no, no, its not fast 😂 but dang i was gonna run that thing well past 300,000 even on the original clutch (i float the gears so i use the clutch a lot less) Oh yeah, replaced timing belt at 125k k and changed coolant every two years. Original radiator, alternator, clutch, valves, and all killed prematurely despite its many miles. God, i miss that car
@damontroch4765
@damontroch4765 11 ай бұрын
So you think thats reliable 🤔 🤣😂 I had 244k miles on my 2014 Impala replaced plugs 2 times. Changed all the fliuids twice and replaced and Egr purge value at a whopping 24 dollars. Never did half of the crap that 1.8 needed
@mikeanthonybrooks
@mikeanthonybrooks 11 ай бұрын
@@damontroch4765 congratulations. I may have done a lot more than the average person would have done, but I was going to make that car last a million miles if I could. Got totalled in a wreck unfortunately
@drakepohl7410
@drakepohl7410 Жыл бұрын
I work at a used car dealership that has a strong affiliation with my local GM dealers. The sheer amount of intake manifolds, camshaft covers and water pumps our shop has done on these is insane. 99% of them that even have big problems that we see don’t even have 80,000 miles either.
@cheeseballs3825
@cheeseballs3825 9 ай бұрын
I love my little Cruze. Got 181K on it and it runs great. I've had it since 34K miles. I've taken alright care of it. I usually change my oil around 0%, I flushed my trans at 120K. I did have some of the problems you mentioned, but for as many miles as I've put on it maintenance has been minimal. My waste gate went bad around 80K, water pump around 160K, valve cover gasket somewhere in between those two. Other than that I've had really good luck with this vehicle. Just a few coolant leaks and regular maintenance.
@Breze84
@Breze84 6 ай бұрын
As long as you maintain ut they are fine. Have a clean beater 2012 Chevy Cruze with 168000 miles. Runs flawlessly. #1 problem to address is the bad PCV setup. The check valve is in the intake and has a 100% fail rate. Once that check valve fails boost pressure gets into your crank case and pushes on the seals, #1 seal to blow is vavle cover and the freah air diaphragm causing a vac leak.if you plug the old check valve hole in the manifold and run a external check valve you will have 0 issues with the 1.4... mine drives smoother than my new explorer ST lol...
@1JackTorS
@1JackTorS Жыл бұрын
With the movie "Ford vs. Ferrari" being so successful, Chevy wanted to come out with their own movie starring the Chevy Cruze. They're calling it "Total Recall".
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 Жыл бұрын
Fits the entire brand
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
😂
@RogierYou
@RogierYou Жыл бұрын
Given that he usually tears down 8 cylinders this was half a teardown and can do a 2nd one this week 😂
@colchronic
@colchronic Жыл бұрын
When you look up the phrase "my friend can do it cheaper" this poor water pump is the first image result Rest in peace
@migueltron24
@migueltron24 Жыл бұрын
I actually owned a 2013 chevrolet cruze, bought it with 30k miles, and always did the oil changes at 4.5k every single one and with good sparkplugs, and now my brother in law drives it to college back and forth and 150k miles now and only water pump has been replaced. Never mistreated the engine, and it is still good on gas and engine
@acguy661
@acguy661 Жыл бұрын
In my 3 years working in a Chevy dealer, I think I resealed every part of these engines other than a rear main seal. That includes vacuum leaks, coolant leaks, and combustion leaks. The 1.8 was the better engine to have if you performed regular maintenance. As bad as this engine is, I'd still rather have it than the newer 1.4 that replaced it (replacing cracked pistons at 13,000 miles).
@seth_ap148
@seth_ap148 Жыл бұрын
The worst 1.4T is still more reliable than the best Hyundai 2.4L Theta II GDI.
@I_Do_Cars
@I_Do_Cars Жыл бұрын
I hate that you’re right
@Chris_de_S
@Chris_de_S 4 ай бұрын
Both still garbage. Make good choices folks.
@shikamaru281281
@shikamaru281281 Жыл бұрын
The first car I ever owned was a 2014 Cruze. Got it at 12.5k miles. At 22k, it leaked from the rings due to the pcv exploding. They wanted to rebuild... at 22k miles. Crazy.
@quixomega
@quixomega 11 ай бұрын
Daiwoo never was a good car brand.
@paulhudson231
@paulhudson231 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that the first gen Miata had available rear steering. Since it can already to a u-turn on a two-lane road I guess not many people got that option. Great video, as always.
@QuincyStick
@QuincyStick Жыл бұрын
The rear steering that miatas have is from slight play in the suspension bushings, which cause it to toe in/out slightly through turns, also known as "passive" rear steering
@paulhudson231
@paulhudson231 Жыл бұрын
@@QuincyStick I was making a sarcastic comment based on the position of the rear wheel on the Miata in the last scene of the video.
@badass96ta
@badass96ta 5 ай бұрын
2019 cruze 150+ and no issues so far. Fingers crossed it keeps going
@andrewkruse4900
@andrewkruse4900 Жыл бұрын
I would say the worst GM 4 cylinder was the Chevrolet 2300 they put in the Vega in the 70’s. It was a die cast aluminum block without liners lol
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын
Before his time 😂 But also, it had flaws, but not the number of flaws he's already mentioned before even starting the teardown, so there's that ...
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын
And the aluminum cylinders without liners was actually a brilliant idea, poorly executed by GM, and later mastered by BMW and Mercedes. The cast iron head was unforgivably stupid, and so was the base model Vega having a half- size radiator. Most owners would've never experienced an overheat if their cars had the optional radiator.
@sunbeam8866
@sunbeam8866 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 Not quite! A friend worked at a BMW dealer, and they had problems with their 'sleeveless' aluminum engines too!
@gold98gtp
@gold98gtp Жыл бұрын
I had a 72 Vega , ran great, no issues IF you checked the coolant level frequently, GM fixed the problem by adding a coolant overflow reservoir.
@3800S1
@3800S1 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like they did a briggs & straton, worst power equipment engine ever. They always just blow up due to poor lubrication made worse because they consumed all their oil after an hour or two of use and that was due to the all alloy bore and the hone marks disappearing after the first use. They kinda fixed it with iron lined versions but they still broke often. In Aus, the worst GM engine which also happen to be a 4 cyl was the Camira engine, they failed often and gave Holden a bad wrap for many years which probably made one of their most successful models of all time the VN commodore not as well selling as it could have been, that had the Buick 3800 LN3 and L27 in it which in my opinion is the most bullet proof engine GM ever made with the the iron LS variants 2nd and then the 3800 II/III in 3rd.
@Senior_Mustard
@Senior_Mustard Жыл бұрын
Interesting small engine teardown, I'd be interested to know if you've ever taken down a Rover K-series 4 pot engine, these came as 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 litre DOHC units and were fitted to the UK Rover 25, 45 and 75 cars from around 2000 to 2005 when Rover went bust. They were also used by Caterham and a couple of others. A common problem with these was HGF, often due to overheating issues and poor quality parts.
@arnoldmiga5689
@arnoldmiga5689 Жыл бұрын
I second this, I had rebuilt one of these and they indeed have different design in places like the super long head bolts going from head to the main bearing carrier. Perhaps not available in US though. I had a rover 400 1.4 and a rover 75 with 1.8, both K-series and I actually rated them high when they worked. 1.4 was very revving and suited well the 400 (honda civic body) and 1.8 was less revvy but more torquey which suited the 75 (both were way underpowered by todays standards)
@Ay1Hunnayt
@Ay1Hunnayt Жыл бұрын
Wife has a trax w a 1.4, chevy didnt add a single way to check any engine info on the dash not one. Only warning lights, maybe this engine had a car w the same thing?
@codejunki567
@codejunki567 Жыл бұрын
I can attest - I had a brand new 2014 cruze all the way until 110k miles until I smacked a chair on the highway. I loved my cruze so much and it never game me any issues :( ( I 100% took care of everything on time like my dad taught me too )
@JohnStarbuck-hj9ls
@JohnStarbuck-hj9ls Ай бұрын
Love your stuff, I just got a 2013 cruise for 150.00 just to run around town and started to research the good bad ugly, this oil change must be done often on time, oil feed for turbo clogged up at bangi bolt, other major deal the ridiculous design for the PCV that fails and head, pressure builds blowing out gaskets and intake timing chain cover, oil pan thx for your channel, signed bymechanic, lol😊
@94XJ
@94XJ Жыл бұрын
I beat the living hell out of mine with a tune for years. Granted I bought it new and stayed on top of the maintenance because of the way I drove it. Fun little car that was a HUGE gas saver coming from my A6 before it. The stupid check valve for the PCV did fail but that was the only thing I ever had to fix, but I didn't have it for even 70k miles. I do miss that car, though. Cheap, ran like hell (thanks, ZZP 😁), economical and comfortably fit my 7'1" frame! Definitely has *all* the Opel fingerprints on that engine design, though!
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 Жыл бұрын
Anything will last 70k miles, good grief man. Please don’t comment on how well something ran when you only put 70k miles on it. This may confuse folks who are not that mechanically inclined into thinking it’s a good car..which most definitely these vehicles are not. It’s like folks who get on saying but my Jeep Cherokee is such a good car, stop hating, then you ask how many miles they had on it before they sold it and they are proud to announce it had nearly 80k miles…. Please help all of us to stop the insanity and help people buy only solid cars.
@94XJ
@94XJ Жыл бұрын
​@@hokie9910Ooh...found the person that ain't happy unless they have something to be upset about! 😂😂
@hokie9910
@hokie9910 Жыл бұрын
@@94XJ No, I just know bull shit when I see it.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
​@@94XJdude has a point. any current engine should be fine up to 100k miles, thats when problems are expected to start.
@94XJ
@94XJ Жыл бұрын
@@bradhaines3142which is why I left that as a qualifying statement...that I only had it for a few thousand miles. Yall upset because I put the disclaimer that I didn't have it for very long. My sister wound up keeping her Sonic for 6 years and clocked almost 120k on it without any issues. I know that's not that long or many miles to some people...but I guess our family just gets bored of cars fast or something 😊 I will say - 70k miles for a 1.4 running 20 pounds of boost (would sometimes spike to 22 on shifts) with just lightly modded intake manifold (the little tumblers in the runners were removed), better charge pipes and test pipe as well as hooking up an e85 sensor (provisions are already there for it...very easy mod) and some larger injectors, that little engine was pushed WAY harder than it was ever intended to be. For what it endured, I respect the engine and under different circumstances I would have gladly kept the car as a little econobox that rides nicer than my truck (also 40mpg to 14).
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