DEAD AT 63K MILES! Jeep 2.0L Turbo Hurricane Engine Teardown. WHAT HAPPENED?

[@RainmanRaysRepairs]

🤣 Ya hear that Cliff? Your 4 cylinder Pentastar is doomed!

[@FollowingtheCliffNotes]

The way I treat my motor I wouldn’t trust anything I drive that’s why I have warranty’s

[@litz13]

Eric, you'll find that missing clip when you are pushing a pallet around the shop and the pallet jack comes to an instant, shuddering, halt.

[@I_Do_Cars]

yeah, while I'm in a rush and pushing it hard so it jacks the handle at a 90 and jams into my stomach LOL

[@hirisk761]

​@I_Do_Cars better hope it don't get ya in the groin! it happened to me and it was less then enjoyable!

[@jjkoferl]

@@I_Do_Cars or lower.... oh that gona to leave a mark

[@shango066]

You got it, Using oil with too much calcium causes that. Starting to see it more and more in d. I vehicles.

[@brysonshires9742]

I have went full face over the pallet jack doing this

[@catlitter6895]

as a car tech (20+years of service) i love watching your videos like others watch a crime documentary. and sometimes i learn from watching too. thank you for the effort doing these videos. 👍

[@piercehawke8021]

No lie; Eric's videos have taught me a LOT and, I'm not an engine man.

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

AMEN!

[@chuckz8053]

Hard acceleration when cold on boosted DI engines can force unatomized fuel between the rings which then detonates and shatters the ring grooves.

[@thisguyshorty3554]

And people still believe that warming up your engine isnt necessary. Its mostly to get the oil up top of the engine. Warming up an engine isnt bad for it.

[@donniev8181]

Poor quality piston material could cause this as well.

[@KyleRepinski]

Using API SN or older oil will do this to these engines. They are definitely on the list of LSPI-effected engines.

[@-DC-]

Oil gets to the top virtually immediately, DI engines are prone to LSPI as manufacturers have learnt to their cost.​@@thisguyshorty3554

[@garyderian4350]

Exactly, LSPI is the problem. The bane of DI engines.

[@boldBryan]

Saturday night is complete

[@carameldreezy]

🎉🎉🎉

[@dirtfarmer7472]

You are correct

[@daviddietz6040]

❤🎉🎉

[@Thedoug369]

Amen, I can now retreat from the umm...stuff I so unwisely but willingly I must add, put under my tongue some hours ago...

[@OursK85]

The 2.0T GME family of engines had Bob Lee and Aldo Marangoni as team leaders. Bob Lee worked for Chrysler since 1978 and worked on the modern HEMI line and Pentastar V6 engine programs. Aldo Marangoni was the Powertrain Engineering Director for Latin America and worked on many diesel engines. The engine was named after the Hawker Hurricane British WWII fighter plane. The block has many similarities to the Neon’s 2.0L DOHC (ECC). For those unaware the 2.0L ECC later evolved into the 2.4L EDZ and later the 2.4T EDV/EDT found in the Neon SRT-4 and PT Cruiser GT. The combustion chambers are similar to the 4.7L H.O. PowerTech V8. Jeep’s 2.0T is referred to as EC1 in terms of engine code. The Alfa Romeo 2.0T uses a closed deck block?! This is actually false. The block is identical to the Jeep 2.0T block. This makes much more sense as at some point the Jeep engines were built alongside the Alfa engines at the Melfi plant in Italy. I know for a fact the engine in mine was assembled at the Melfi plant. After the first quarter of 2021 some production returned to the States. Jeep’s 2.0T was initially assembled in the Trenton Engine Plant. Kokomo Engine Plant currently assembles the engine.

[@davidtappe5337]

Just got home from HOGs Christmas party. Left early so I wouldn’t get into any trouble. Blessed with a video. Safe and sober. Thanks Eric!!

[@Oddman1980]

I got a cordless impact earlier this year, it surprised me how powerful it was. It will either break the bolt loose or it will break the bolt. Or the socket. And it's way more portable than an air hose!

[@DanBowkley]

I made the mistake of using my little Makita impact to install a TV wall mount. Twisted the head off a 1/4" lag bolt like it was a birthday candle!

[@JeffinTD]

Yeah they’ve come a long way. I have a 1/2 high torque and a little 3/8 and they are both beasts.

[@donniev8181]

Torque Test channel has some quality videos on impacts.

[@timothyball3144]

Today I opened up a Cat/Perkins 3054/1004 and I was surprised that it hadn't seized up. #5 lower main bearing was beat and it looked like a one-piece thrust bearing. That and the transfered bearing material tells me that it was close to catastrophe. I didn't do the science though. 3/4 pistons had broken top rings and the ring lands were hammered. It was very impressive to have still been running, although it was pushing a stream of oil out the rear main and by mostly covering the draft tube, it whistled. 😮 Oh, and enough dirt in the intake to grow taters.

[@JoeMama827]

Decades ago a sailing mag polled boat mechanics about their favorite engines. The perkins was the unanimous choice. The worst: Volvo.

[@820hurleyj]

I enjoy these IDC videos because I worked for several years as a car mechanic and then switched to dealership motorcycles. I've always been fascinated by mechanical things. My dad was a mechanic for whatever needed fixing. If he worked on our own cars, he'd do it at home where I'd watch as soon as I was tall enough to kind of see what he was doing. I was probably around 5 when I started watching him - and asking him a million questions as he went along. Now I'm retired and get to see all the fun stuff without getting dirty, bleeding or getting something out of my eye. 😏 These videos allow me to see new engine technology. When I switched from cars to motorcycles, I found out that motorcycle engines were way more advanced and efficient over car tech of the 60's, 70's😊, and 80's. That seems to have changed nowadays and looks like car engines are finally catching up. This Jeep 4 banger impressed me too. The use of roller and needle bearings in automotive engines hasn't been in vogue since the early days of autos. Great video. Crappy pistons and rings!

[@leagueofshadows5133]

Erik with 380k already 🔥 I started watching at 30k subs. Keep up the good sat night show! Happy holidays.

[@moosenbeans903]

Eric merry Christmas to you and yours. First Xmas for Jr yeahh

[@nychold]

Yeah, my guess on this is the car is supposed to be able to run on regular unleaded gas, and for whatever reason, some of the ECUs or sensors just don't handle it as well as others. Basically, turbo + low octane = boom.

[@runningawayvagabond5876]

Yup. Personally drive a Honda and it's supposed to be fine using 87 but I find it's noticeably quieter using 91 so that's what it gets. The manual can tell me 'til the ink falls off the page that 87 is fine but I'll believe my ears. Lucky for me I only drive 700 miles or so a month so don't even notice the extra cost at the pump.

[@ScrubRadius]

Nothing to do with fuel. LSPI is because of using the wrong oil.

[@Shade_Tree_Mechanic]

​@@ScrubRadiusYeah, it's the calcium in it

[@scott9050]

I had a 2019 Cheerokee with the 2.0 turbo. Mine died at 7K miles and according to corporate was the very first 2.0 in a Jeep product that was bought back under the lemon law. They offered me a free 100K mile bumper to bumper warranty if I bought another one, I declined.

[@bradhaines3142]

i buy a car to take me places, not break me places. i dont want to need a warranty, and i sure as shit dont expect a company to actually spend anything for it.

[@samholdsworth420]

Kind of curious why you would consider a stellantis product to begin with

[@roofcamper3473]

@scott9050 what made you buy a Jeep Cherokee in the first place?

[@davidpowell3347]

@@roofcamper3473 I wish they still made the WJ or maybe the first generation Hemi Daimler- Benz Grand Cherokee (still have 20 year old one)

[@MTBD80]

@@bradhaines3142 You're going to need a warranty with any of these modern vehicles. The math complexity makes it a requirement.

[@johndefelice4208]

We don't comment much but Gwen and I have watched all your engine tear downs. It's relaxing, unless you are a water pump. Your show (among a few others) kept me entertained while I recovered from surgery a few months earlier this year. Thank you.

[@anthonybertone2336]

I know you’d find this hard to believe but you sure make my end of the week great

[@I_Do_Cars]

I'm glad I can hopefully help take you away from the chaos of the week even if its just 45minutes.

[@marathoner43]

Thanks for the Saturday night entertainment Eric. Always enjoy your teardown videos.

[@matthewgreen1312]

Chain, length, girth...bolt on diapers for kids...laughed so hard, nearly soiled myself. Berg, you're a funny man. Education with humor, keep it coming man! I love it! Thanks!

[@NickLandsberg780]

Good job bud. Keep up the good work. 1993ish 7.3 idi from an f series truck would be awesome to see.

[@aaronscott2278]

It’s a Jeep thing people wouldn’t understand keep up the amazing content

[@EarlSinclair97]

I've had that Jeep Thing, I do understand. Thankfully, it's all cleared up now. 😆

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@EarlSinclair97 Antibiotics?

[@evilbrian66]

@@EarlSinclair97 15w-40?

[@jjkoferl]

Bought a Toy Taco.. no more repair bills

[@Aerzon1v1]

​​@@jjkoferl What year and engine?

[@Frost212]

2 videos a week? You're the best Eric. Happy Holidays to you and yours :3

[@HE-pu3nt]

14:33 I'm speechless Eric. This is, by far, your most EPIC chain perving ever. I salute you Sir🫡🫡 Lots a love from 🇬🇧.

[@sjones1557]

No mention of the disgusting VC seals?

[@kirkniese3063]

😆I lost count of how many double entendres there were! Well done, Eric!

[@alexgrindnshine2522]

I must say this engine looks well designed, nothing oddly complicated. nice chain driving oil pump, Cross bolted mains, simple valvetrain design, that roller bearing at the nose of the cams looks like a good design. This engine isn’t a closed deck but I do believe the 3.0L hurricane is. Easy engine to tear down

[@JeepAndThings]

As a 21 4XE owner, I warm the engine up by kicking it into manual D1 to get it idling, otherwise hybrid kicks the motor on only when you need power. Cold engine and extra oomph are a bad combo on a turbo. Thank you so much for going though this engine! Gives me hope. My last Jeep I bought new in 07 and had a 148,000 miles on the old 3.8 with I sold in 14 years later. Never had any real issues with it, other than leaked oil out of everything. I always run synthetic, and change regularly. 5K on the 07, 3-6K on the 21, varies because of electric drive train...I go by oil life when it gets to 50%.

[@kjjeep2718]

I have this engine in my 2 door JL, my favorite feature is getting consistent milage in the 20's. I run 91 octane and have had no issues.

[@Aerzon1v1]

With any luck it will last. I'd rather have a big, simple, clunky, NA gas guzzler than a complex turbo I4 though. Seems easier for these manufacturers to do right.

[@MrPabsUk]

What year, miles, what oil & how often?

[@JoeArn1]

I have it for my 21 JLU. I’m around 32,000 miles. Good amount of get-up-and-go

[@JoeArn1]

@@MrPabsUkI use Pennzoil Full Synthetic and the OEM Mopar filter. I change the oil around every 8,000 miles. Let me also say, at like 3,000 miles my water pump blew and it was a recall like last year for this engine.

[@MrPabsUk]

@@JoeArn1 Thanks, interesting. Do you know what blew on the WP?

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Different places in this world have different oils specified, and wildly different oil and filter change intervals...all for the same engine. Plus, of course, wildly different "normal" use of the vehicle/engines. When your national speed limit is 60mph (100kmh) and other countries have unlimited , or 80mph , or anywhere from 70 to 100mph as "normal".... the wear characteristics of the same engine/different country really stand out.

[@rleger123]

Saturday night tear down! Yes

[@martymiller4300]

The word ‘good’ on the valve cover obviously meant the valve cover was good. Notice it did not say ‘good’ on #2 or #4 piston.

[@ChrisJohnson-rn2ls]

Mopar tech here… the water intake tube bolts back out and dump coolant. Had a recall for that. Had one came in that had blown the freeze plug out under the turbo. Got overnight to spray MOLTEN ALUMINUM out the hole. Head gasket failed and it would spit flame out the side sometimes when cranking.

[@johnmoore8599]

Thanks for the teardown! Merry Christmas, Eric and family!

[@65Malibu]

It’s find it kind of hard to believe that a cast aluminum valve cover with threaded holes wouldn't be less expensive to manufacture than a plastic one with 18-20 brass threaded inserts.

[@bradcomis1066]

Brass inserts add almost nothing to the manufacturing cost of a plastic part. They are super easy to insert into the mold before injection.

[@tsimpson007]

My night is complete. Thank you Eric may you and your family have a Happy and Merry Christmas.

[@dronevader1541]

You need to do a video on “the worst automotive fasteners of all time”.

[@daviddietz6040]

Starring Triple Square and External Torx. Cameos from Allen-headed Head Bolt and Spline Socket. Sounds like a blockbuster!

[@fuse8052]

Can't get enough of these videos. Definitely one of my favorite channels on KZbin

[@MurphyTheBandChild]

Speaking of Hurricane, I would love to see what the insides of one of the straight six engines look like.

[@YZJB]

It’s pretty much a longer version of this engine. They’re the same family and modular. 3, 4 and 6 cylinders otherwise all the same architecture.

[@dougrobinson8602]

Probably won't be long.

[@raydar2630]

I've been hearing anecdotal evidence of the straight sixes overheating, due to cheap plastic parts like thermostat housings. Wonder if something similar is what took this one out. Detonation caused by overheating, before the head gasket blew.

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

​@raydar2630 that's actually what's been happening to them tbh. It's been plaguing wagoneers with the hurricane for the last 2 years now. The engine itself is built strong,but that thermostat is the main thing that's killing them tbh.

[@martinw89]

Really appreciate the compression teaser when the plugs were loose - I was scratching my head the entire time and the ring pieces in the pan were a huge surprise

[@scooterdrum]

I’m half a case deep and this just popped up..what a great Saturday night!

[@Jeeky88]

hope ur sunday morning is just as good 👍

[@djer15]

A dealer tech here and can confirm oil changes on this engine is more important than ever. And with each oil change check coolant levels. The coolant disappears in a "normally" working engine. Every 10k km check coolant, air filter and do an oil change.

[@Jay-ns5ub]

I was wondering why my GFs cherokee 2.0 coolant level looked low every time i change the oil.. But no leak. Thanks!

[@frankcurulli1244]

Another great teardown. There is a good chance this engine was run on lowr octane fuel. These turbo engines require high octane, but many drivers tend to penny-pinch by choosing regular octane fuel, with the resultant catastrophe. Thanks, Frank

[@waywardson-i1t]

Love that you did this engine. My 19 Cherokee has been flawless until last week. CEL for an auxiliary water pump which has a nation wide backorder, Uh Oh. There isn't alot of technical info out there on the little Hurricane, nice to see the inner workings.

[@mholdner]

The sawzall cut on the coolant line had me chuckling. Why is he messing with that constant tension clamp? Brrrrrr, done. Too funny.

[@PaulChrisman-z6q]

I see the cam lobes are pressed on so the could do roller bearings on all the cam journals, that would be a big help for the cams.

[@robertmills794]

I think if this was low speed detonation, there would have been a lot of melting on the piston crowns. We didn't see that. What we saw was the rings seized and broken which is why this engine was dead. I'd say that's likely incorrect oil, despite being changed as much as the manufacturer recommended. If you look, the "good" pistons oil rings were also not in good shape. Which is why I think what I think,.. wrong oil,.. either in viscosity, grade or both.

[@TotesCray]

New Impact!!!! Thanks for another fun video, Eric!

[@Thought_Criminal_666]

Rings and ring lands are so thin anymore, there's just no strength in the material so it breaks really easily. Older style pistons and rings don't do that, it's a newer engine problem.

[@Dagrond]

Having the dream of rebuilding an engine some day, your channel provides me with unlimited motivation. Not only do I see how things are constructed/deconstructed, but I see the process for tearing an engine down in steps that keep the parts in good order. Something I feel I am now fully qualified to do - especially the "tossing across the room into a bin" part, although still in doubt about how it will ever run again. Baby steps I guess.

[@heinb7]

Thanks Eric i got this one in my JL. Love my 2.0.

[@TotesCray]

let's hope yours does better than this one!

[@heinb7]

@@TotesCray there are thousands of these on the road and i am on the Jeep pages. I have not heard of issues like this on the 2.0. Not sure what happened to this one.

[@heinb7]

@@TotesCray i would say running the higher octane fuel in it is better. It does feel pingy with the lowest octane.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Do you do your own oil and filter changes? What interval? What grade of oil do you use? Are you in an intense heat/cold area?

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Different places in this world have different oils specified, and wildly different oil and filter change intervals...all for the same engine. Plus, of course, wildly different "normal" use of the vehicle/engines. When your national speed limit is 60mph (100kmh) and other countries have unlimited , or 80mph , or anywhere from 70 to 100mph as "normal".... the wear characteristics of the same engine/different country really stand out.

[@rotaxtwin]

Really appreciate all the editing you do to capture the Crack of those head bolts - and mains too. And holy crap have they got the friction down to nothing now. Amazing.

[@adamtrombino106]

Can't be much friction when only 2 pistons have a good ring set and non scored bores...

[@richardwarfield7386]

Eric - as a fellow father a diaper only has one purpose. There are no such things as sound deadening diapers. Happy Holidays

[@TJ-oi5qe]

I would say the terminology was correct given the engine it wrapped around.

[@Flies2FLL]

I grew up in Temperance, Mish-Gin, and a lot of my neighbors worked for Jeep in Toledo, a few miles away. Some of their kids wanted to follow their fathers into manufacturing jobs, but it was highly competitive and many were turned away. They all did other things such as GO TO COLLEGE, but there is total nepotism in the auto industry. And how well your dad is liked makes all the difference in the world in auto manufacturing circles to this day.

[@jeffreyshepherd8488]

Toledo native, can confirm

[@Flies2FLL]

@@jeffreyshepherd8488 Ever hang out at Frankies?

[@dangermartin69]

@@jeffreyshepherd8488 I work at Windsor Assembly. Tried to get my daughter in, no luck. My union steward got both his kids in though.

[@EbenBransome]

Jaguar in the UK is being widely criticised for its "DEI" policies, but the owners know they need to stop the nepotism and recruit the best people for the job. A lot of the UK's skills shortage has been due to only people with the right connections being considered for jobs.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Looks like Chrysler finally perfected "low tension" piston rings... To ZERO tension 😂

[@gadgetsplace]

Eric, Ivan And rain man, Ray, weekend complete

[@CL-ty6wp]

Didn't know Honeywell made turbos

[@steveblackbird]

Was called honeywell now just Garrett Motion. Garrett Honeywell have been the same co for a long time.

[@LesSharp]

They started branding them like this when the big factory in China came on line.

[@Jokesxxl]

Almost the same engine as Alfa Giulia and Stelvio 2.0T!

[@peted5217]

The slow carbonation on intake valves& ports , that DI causes (vs Port Inj) is the silent thief stealing HP by restricting Air Flow

[@Felix.Garcia]

Just sold my 2017 Jeep with this engine. One cool feature was that it was able to blow hot air in less than 30s after startup in the cold. That EGR cooler must be reason why

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Or, that mentioned valve in the water pump that actually slows coolant circulation right down so whatever heat from start...stays in the engine...until it is allowed to flow to the cabin heater?

[@Felix.Garcia]

@JohnSmith-pl2bk whatever it is. It's literally insanely fast!

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@Felix.Garcia The 1975 Datsun 120Y (B210) I had also had a very quick heater... the 6 inch long 1/2 inch rubber hose off the rear of the head fed straight into the heater core and the return fabric covered rubber hose went all the way from the firewall to the front of the engine joining in with the return to the water pump intake from the radiator. The heater got priority! Another very fast acting cabin heater was in a Lada Niva...guaranteed 100F in the cabin at -36F outside. Siberians appreciated that!

[@lieutenantdan8170]

Best heat I've ever experienced is on BMW's with the M54 engine close second is GM vehicles with the 3800 V6

[@DrDre-ir4gu]

A lot of car manufacturers, incorporated an electric heating element in the HVAC unit behind the dashboard for some years now. Not sure your 2017 Jeep had it. This electric heating element supports “defrost” until the heat is coming from the engine.

[@thereve]

Can you do a ufo/drone hyperdrive teardown next?

[@sebikkos]

TR-3B would be great

[@Sw-so4zj]

Well, Chrysler Dodge Mopar Stellantis has been dropping valves for years, now dropping rings? Hopefully not a new trend

[@Tbarlow699]

Not a FCA fan, but when my parents bought their 19 cheerokee 2.0 I was very impressed. It’s extremely peppy for what it is, interior is nice, I love it so much I was considering buying one myself. unfortunately Lspi is the legitimate plague for boosted DI 4cyl motors. Back in 2020 I blew up a 2.0 ecoboost in the same way because of it.

[@m.kriddick2731]

Here for the weekly chronicles of Blue

[@stuglenn1112]

Today I learned that Stellantis is the Italian word for garbage.

[@davidtappe5337]

Me too!!

[@peterpeter5666]

theres a reason chrysler is going bankrupt

[@HappyHarryHardon]

@@peterpeter5666Is it because of stellantis?

[@budlanctot3060]

You didn't listen to the video. Owner most likely did NOT use proper rated oil. ANY DI engine may fail if you use the wrong oil. Almost ALL new cars have gone to DI.

[@member57]

@@budlanctot3060 stelantis is still junk. worst of the worst.

[@gordtulk]

Appointment viewing. Thx for all your work. All the best.

[@karl_toffel]

We need a "look at that chain" compilation

[@solderbuff]

And a "Top 10 Look At That Chain" personal favorite list.

[@peterwilding1203]

Eric must have quite the collection of chains.

[@johnhufnagel]

we need eric in a Heffner style smoking jacket, a sniffer of brandy, a wall of chains proudly displayed, and some barry white tunes playing. :D

[@mystisith3984]

One day we'll know what happens to those. I have theories...😏 ⛓️

[@4wdiesels]

One way to help a little with the detonation issue on a turbo gdi engine is to get a little heat in the engine before giving it the beans. After the morning cold start, gasoline will wash down the cold cylinders due to incomplete combustion and will accumulate between the rings, if the engine is pushed a little to hard during this warm up period, that accumulated gasoline can detonate and will basically explode the ring lands. Drive very gentle with minimum amounts of turbo boost during warm up!

[@Duken4evr29]

100%. Have heard that GDI engines really benefit from a bit of warm up before driving off in cold weather. We have come full circle, treat these like the old carbureted engines.

[@Flies2FLL]

That ball bearing at the front of the camshaft is a GREAT idea. As long as it is not sealed. Porsche M96 IMS.....

[@miketdavies]

Yep was nice to see they didn't include the seal on it!

[@FairladyS130]

There is a driving procedure for any turbo engine. Don't drive it hard when cold, drive it slow for the last few minutes before shutdown. And be careful with the fuel. Neat design motor there.

[@NHRA_JEEP]

I drove a 2022 Grand Cherokee 4xe rental for 9 weeks. It had this engine in it. It was a hybrid. The Grand Cherokee is a fairly heavy SUV. I was surprised how good it moved under its own power. With no help from the electric assist. It had the normal 4 cylinder noise while accelerating. I would never buy it for my personal vehicle. I prefer the 3.6 V6 I have in my wrangler.

[@Trog1odyte]

My wife has a ‘19 Rubicon with a slightly different version of this engine. It does say premium fuel recommended in the manual and on the cap. It will break the tires loose w/o even hitting 75% throttle. Makes tooling around in the snow lots of fun. Highway passing is better than any other Wrangler I’ve driven. Only complaint is that the exhaust is awfully loud, especially when cold.

[@peted5217]

If U Buy DI engine vehicle, make sure it also has port injectors to keep intake valves clean of carbon build

[@edstacks5254]

Problem is Only like 4 brands offer this😅

[@streamlock265]

I have a 2015 CX-5 Skyactiv G with 310,000 miles on it. DI with no port injectors. I fear looking into the intakes for the horror show that is likely present there. And I would have to get all the kit to walnut blast it myself, since nobody but the BMW shops do it and they don’t want to touch a Mazda or charge insane rates. There just wast many DI port injected options until recently, maybe still not.

[@jimmyjckjones]

Love these engines. Driving a few in Wrangler rentals in Colorado for daily driving duties when there. Over passes, highway drives always a pleasure with this engine. The 8 speed is a gem. This engine works well in the 4XE wrangler as well. All around great engine. Plenty of power and decent fuel Econ.

[@mrbwa1]

Wireless rings is a bold choice.

[@MasterAlex24]

If you wanna make the most torque on your new impact, use the 5.0 batteries. They were designed to output more with those batteries.

[@nightrunnerxm393]

Hah! That C-clip was just like "Ah ha! I'm free! Fly away!!"

[@PaulG.x]

Rolling element bearings do not need pressure oil feeds . They run perfectly well with as little as an oil mist as shown by two stroke crankshaft bearings

[@grahammonk8013]

@PaulG.x Took a Honda C250RS across France, (think XL250 in a road frame) missed checking the oil on *one* gas stop, at the next one the transmission felt stiff. Pulled the dip stick and went to wipe it. It's dry? "Why is the filler hole smoking??!! Filled it with best oil they had, seemed fine...Thank god for ball bearing motors.

[@solderbuff]

@@grahammonk8013, hmmm. Why would transmission be stiff?

[@grahammonk8013]

@@solderbuff In motorcycles, engine and gearbox are usually using same oil. And the wet clutch

[@PaulG.x]

@@grahammonk8013 In the late 70's ,a high school friend had one of those CB250RS. He bent the frame in an accident and we straightened it by chaining it to a workshop wall and using water pipe levers and a gas torch. I took a mold of the bikini fairing and made a reproduction for one on my bikes, Still have that.

[@grahammonk8013]

@@PaulG.x Bikini fairing? The CB250RS never had one as stock? I stuffed mine into the side of a car, but right between the front wheel and door. Left them with 3 dented panels but my bike only got a scratched up mudguard. No forks, wheel or frame damage. What did your friend do to bend the frame?

[@beaugator]

Detonation will show as pepper specs on the plugs and piston top. Didn't get a close enough look at either to tell though the piston tops didn't seem too bad. I'm thinking more of a defect in the ring land machining process. Maybe chatter from worn tooling sets up stress points which will fail given the right conditions. Overspeed might be one of those.

[@kd7cwg]

Those oil return lines are really fun to change in the vehicle. 🤣

[@johnd8651]

Working at an indy shop I had to reseal the oil separater on one of these. This whole engine is a joke of a design

[@kd7cwg]

@ there was a tsb for the return line leaking. This one was so bad it was 3 qt low on oil. They brought it into the dealer for an oil change. Not one mention on how bad it was running. It survived though. Had a grand cherokee 4xe in for warranty. Engine was locked, block cracked, and pieces of piston on the belly pan. #4 plug was so destroyed, it was unable to be removed. Unfortunately couldn’t tear it apart, or send it on for a video, cause the dead one had a core charge

[@skylinefever]

I looked because I thought the 2.0T engine would be like some better version of the GEMA engine. It doesn't look like that to me. Lake Speed Jr said that API SP oil was reformulated to reduce the detonation on T-GDI engines. This may also apply to oil standards on cars that do not use API specification oil, such as BMW or VW.

[@Palarisha77]

Those T27s on the back right in line with the T30s. Felt that in my soul. THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

[@johndavidwolf4239]

T-27s are very common in chainsaws.

[@jasonaldenhaley1]

10:18..."...like some kid lookin at a clapped out G35..." 🤣🤣

[@Mulelicious]

Great timing for the video. I was going to buy a jeep this week, with that engine. Thanks, it does look like a decent engine.

[@tg9754]

Wow, I've never seen rings break like that on an engine that looked so good while you were tearing it down. I've never been a jeep owner or fan, but I thought their engines would last longer. Great video. See you next time.

[@Aboxinhamster]

The new M12 impacts have thirsty motors and they need the high output batteries to even put out the full beans

[@muddywater6856]

Yep....lets you go deep into the amps when you need them. Not just to extend the runtime.

[@bradhaines3142]

the m12 and m18 are the exact same except the brain box that gives the power. thats why the m18 lasts a lot longer than the m12, just like a v6 motor pulling a truck vs a v8. v8 doesnt try as hard, almost always ends up better

[@AngusMcDangus]

"The Beans©" -TTC

[@Aboxinhamster]

@@bradhaines3142 More volts=more cells=more power capacity. When comparing the M12 vs M18 fuel drill especially, the M12 seems to have a smaller motor based on the size of the drill and at full chooch the m12 shuts down after give or take 10 seconds even with the 5.0 high output battery meanwhile the M18 keeps chugging along with relative ease. I prefer the M12 fuel for compact size and lighter weight but I bust out the M18 for a more daunting task

[@Aboxinhamster]

@@AngusMcDangus TTC and project farm= GOATS

[@frankkent8046]

"This engine has a bolt on diaper! Do they have these for kids yet?" ROFLMAO! Good question Eric! Thanks for the great upload! See you next week!

[@John.0z]

Access to these engines seems to start with the instruction: "remove engine from car." The difficult thing about that step is how often major bodywork etc removal is required to remove the engine. It is like the old Jaguar E type, the first step for removing the engine was to remove the front suspension.

[@Aerzon1v1]

That made me shiver, what an idiot design.

[@chrisbrown3925]

I've always heard that to pull an e type motor, you must remove the transmission, and to remove the transmission, you must remove the motor...

[@John.0z]

@@Aerzon1v1 We seem to see ever more examples of this - a design that is fabulously designed for a task, and manufacture. But barely a moment's thought given to servicing. I am not saying this just about cars. It applies to nearly all mechanical and electronic devices.

[@EbenBransome]

Yes, people forget that Jaguar's perpetual problem, like Aston, was they didn't sell enough to take care of the design details. Constant problems as a result.

[@MeDicen_Rocha]

To do that on Wranglers you just remove the cab from the frame and make your life 10 times easier. It takes a handful of bolts, disconnecting some harnesses, hoses and their associated fluids, and having a hoist ready to hold the body for a couple of days. I've seen it done a handful of times and know a skilled tech can have the cab off and the engine out in a day, all back together in two.

[@wickertwm]

The new oil requirement to help prevent LSPI is and SP rated engine oil. It has less Calcium in the chemistry. These new oil requirements have just been implemented by the oil manufacturers and there are still plenty of the SN oils out there on the shelf, so be ware when buying oil for small turbo engines. Check to make sure you are buying the SP and not the old formulation SN.

[@Error-bp6wy]

Oooh yeah my Saturday just got a whole lot better.

[@jackfrench3324]

I had a 2019 jeep JL with this engine for about 10K miles. I live at 5000 feet elevation and it was very peppy to drive. Did fine in easy off road driving. I got rid of it before it broke. Now I drive a 2000 Jeep TJ with the 4.0L inline six, 5 spd. I enjoy it just as much and it cost 1/4 the money, will probably last 4x as long.

[@realforest]

I also bought the new m12 stubby in the 1/2" variant, it is a timesaver for diy repairs on jack stands. But before I used an old pneumatic impact that struggled with 100ft/lb+ bolts, I mainly used ratchets and wrenches as I just do diy automotive work.

[@mfree80286]

40:30 Detonation, even low speed detonation, tends to scar the piston crowns and affect the compression ring and land first. I wonder if... you'd have to really microscopically examine the bores and the ring edges to see this, but I wonder if there's a specific set of circumstances that causes ring chatter in this engine, like running hard when cold, lugging, or spending too long around a harmonic. Too little tension, a little too much vertical clearance in the groove, and the ring skip-hopping down the bore eventually fatigues and cracks the ring lands. There wasn't any visible evidence of such, but I could also have landed on a brief overheat episode closing the ring gap and popping the lands apart, especially given the coolant spilled across the top of the head. There should be other signs of that though, and I didn't see any.

[@afinapple147]

The new Heep Cherokee is an affront to the original Jeep Cherokee

[@Duken4evr29]

Removes spring clamp from hose then, as expected takes a Sawzall to it. I feel like I know Eric so well 😆 Treat GDI engines like diesels, which are also direct injection. In cold weather fuel washes down the cylinder and GDI engines benefit from a 2-3 minutes of idling to get the oil moving before driving off gently until the engine reaches full operating temp. The specified oil is thin, which likely adds to the issue. I miss port injection and thicker piston rings.

[@EricaMTB]

I love it when he doesn't even need to use the end of the bar

[@batshtcrzypsn722]

Dave’s auto center did a vid on low speed preignition. I believe his 2 main takeaways were using the correct oil and make sure you warm the motor up completely before driving. DI turbo motors are notorious for this because it seems like people just start their vehicle and go and causes that. Also… you should invest in an electronic microscope to show good detail closeups on the damaged parts like this. Just a thought, would be cool to see. Great vid.

[@TassieLorenzo]

" I believe his 2 main takeaways were using the correct oil and make sure you warm the motor up completely before driving." Great points! Unfortunately people who buy economy SUVs like Jeep Cherokees or Nissan Rogues with high-strung downsize turbo engines are unlikely to care about that...

[@SH-zv2wy]

LSPI, if widespread in newer vehicles, I suggest is a factory recommended oil issue, which seems unreasonable, but there you go.

[@danaitcheson9571]

Low speed pre ignition right there

[@fbomb5841]

Hey eric ive watched everyone of your episodes for years and i love them and you have torn down almost every enthusiast engine but i haven't seen a 2.4t out of the srt4 or pt gt!

[@Jam3sA]

I think you can get this engine with a manual gearbox, in the Alfa Romeo Giulia. Unfortunately it's only a LHD option as there's no room for the clutch pedal here in the UK

[@letsgetthispuh3526]

Does the turbo say "Honeywell" on it? Tha same honeywell that made my space heater and my ceiling fan

[@thegrassassasin2142]

My furnace use this same turbo setup !!!

[@mattconway8900]

Seeing the rockers in that condition makes sense. Done plently of oil changes on these and the valvetrain is super loud afterwards 😬

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Any factory paperwork admitting the wrong oil specified come out...yet?

[@solderbuff]

After the oil change?

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@solderbuff Probably until the oil filter gets filled up by the oil pump and before full pressure oil reaches those roller lifters way up there in the head????

[@mattconway8900]

It still rattles even when there has been oil pressure for a good amount of time. My guess is the engine doesn't like being hot with cold oil put in it. Or the rockers really don't like to pump up or something

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@mattconway8900 I wonder if a scan tool will give you running oil pressure...or at least from cold through to hot...and hw that might compare to "spec"?

[@fjalics]

If you get a vehicle with a couple of motors and no cylinders, you don't need to worry about your cylinder failing. You don't even need to do an oil change.😊

[@UncleBildo]

Been curious about that engine for a while. I have the exact one, 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. I'm at 40K miles now. Have wondered about the longevity of the turbo etc. I have to say I have been impressed with the little bugger. Power and economy. I get just shy of 30 mpg highway with it.