The Survivor Players Most Screwed by Advantages

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[@BillyGollnerMusic]

Cirie every time she played pretty much.

[@survivorfandan_sa9]

Panama: Terry's idol FvF1: F2 HvV: JT GC: 3 idols, necklace and legacy

[@NYChica23]

@@survivorfandan_sa9 Correction...she was screwed on HvV by JT and Tom's idol

[@WinByTKo]

This is probably the only place where Island of the Idols makes the top 10 in anything not titled 'cringeworthy' or 'controversial'

[@Gamefileplays]

Top 10 seasons with the most advantages

[@alexjames4770]

Hey, the cast outside of two pretty obvious players are pretty likeable. And I loved most of the late merge players.

[@jaredfreeley8283]

Alex James whos the second?

[@EliVonder]

It's pretty good season though

[@matthewdamario7082]

top ten best pre merges or top ten best winners

[@134ajl]

Cirie is truly the best to never win, especially after getting screwed out of what seemed to be a winning game not once, but twice. First in Fans vs Favorites by the final 2 twist, then in Game Changers by advantage-geddon

[@thewachannel4537]

WRONG! the two best to never win are Malcolm Freberg and Ciera Eastin!

[@simplebutpowerful]

@@thewachannel4537 Ciera is great but has too much big-move-itis. Malcolm is a contender but Cirie is the correct answer

[@jackclausen7252]

Russel absolutely dominated the first 2 times he ever played and lost the third time cause he was a huge threat. If the juries weren't salty af he would've won back to back seasons and been a 2 time winner

[@alexclair9025]

@@jackclausen7252 I used to agree with you, but part of survivor is jury management. A lot of people didn't like him. He was mean and many other things. He played a good game yeah, but you have to remember that you put the jury there and they have to like you still. He didn't do that.

[@bobby5161]

@@jackclausen7252 The only reason Russell ever made it to the end was because he was easy to beat in front if the jury. You keep him around because he'll never get any votes.

[@brandonochs1902]

Man... to think that the difference of Janet winning and Janet losing LITERALLY was in the fate of a coin flip.

[@noahs5636]

The difference between IOI being a decent season and being a bottom of the barre tier season was a coin flip. If Janet wins, IOI is redeemed just enough in my eyes. The merge episode up to Dan being removed is still garbage but if Janet pulls through with a win the season is at least ok.

[@SonicGlitchmaster1]

Idk dude I feel like she still wouldn’t have beaten Tommy. He had all the connections on the jury. It might have been a closer vote than the Tommy/Dean vote, but I still think Tommy would’ve squeaked by

[@SonicGlitchmaster1]

Saikou210 Fair enough. I don’t think Tommy was an undeserving winner, but I definitely rooted for Janet until she got booted. Hope they bring her back in a future season, hopefully one with less controversial characters

[@jareddepew1467]

Eh , shouldn’t have come down to that. Was such bs.

[@yellowlemon8765]

@@jareddepew1467 Well Survivor is expect the unexpected. Luck is a huge part of the game.

[@joejoejoeil3165]

Stephen Fishbach has proposed A very interesting idea for the return challenge works if fire tokens are in play: the later you’re eliminated the further along in the challenge you start and vice versa, but if eliminated earlier you have more chances to get more fire tokens to buy advantages in the return challenge

[@uglyaniimals]

this is so much better then what we actually had

[@Son1cJ3t]

Damn, watching Jamal's "lesson" reminds me of how much a piece of flaming f'ing garbage IOI was. It somehow gets worse every time I'm reminded of it.

[@noahs5636]

Fr, watching it live it started off so promising but the merge episode killed it and it just got worse and worse from there every episode.

[@londonbordeaux]

i remember that moment like yesterday, fcking 10 minutes of Jamal talking about a damn durag 😭😭😭 i knew it was gonna be a sh*t show from there.

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

@@londonbordeaux That was actually a good moment on the season bro. I'd rather watch that than endless strategy and advantage crap.

[@evildeathcuddles886]

@@londonbordeaux Tell me youre racist without telling me you're racist.

[@londonbordeaux]

@@evildeathcuddles886 and?? what are you gonna do about it??? hmm??? I'm a south-east asian growing up in India, so don't even try me with your bs, little girl 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jeffgudorf492]

Man I feel so bad for Janet! Not just because she would have been the most redeeming winner of S39 but also because she lost the game on a coin flip....

[@solomonpuckett1052]

I love how Tony used his Special Idol in Cagayan. He showed he had it, lied about its powers, and used it to intimidate the others.

[@Pepsithegoat]

Me too. At the final 4 vote he literally had to just hope that nobody would ask him to prove it works at final 4

[@lukebrennan3378]

Jeremy knew Kim had an idol, so he should have just said “play me the idol or I’m gonna leave”

[@jeffgudorf492]

I think Jeremy and Kim should have swapped advantages: everybody knew about Kim's idol, but if she uses Safety without Power (which expired at the F10) then nobody would expect her idol to come into play. Then Tony's alliance piles their votes on Jeremy thinking he's an easy target, and he plays Kim's idol on himself! Of course since Sophie had an idol and they were voting for her I guess she likely plays it and so all votes get negated and Tyson goes anyway lol on the revote.

[@alexjames4770]

Several of Jeremy’s voting block in that tribal specifically whispered back and forth with Ben and Tony, two players leading the charge against Jeremy, without saying ANYTHING to him. Not to mention shortly afterwards Kim and Denise betrayed Jeremy several times, so I think it’s pretty possible Kim was planning to let J go home. At this point, Tony, Sara, Denise and Ben has not yet formed that super strong alliance, so Kim no doubt saw a route forward in the game claiming majority from Cops R Us.

[@hellomoosen5118]

Alex James Tony Sarah and Ben most likely pregamed so I think their alliance was tight from the beginning

[@OnceUponAnIsland]

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[@IdoledOut]

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[@markjackson6431]

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[@OnceUponAnIsland]

@@markjackson6431 Thank you!

[@OnceUponAnIsland]

@@IdoledOut I am going all out on the pirate music :)

[@fernmccreary2729]

pathetic attempt to insert yourself in the conversation. I will never subscribe to you and have thumbed down each of your videos.

[@vicivitytan4376]

I'm glad you took such a mature stance on Cirie's elimination and looked at it in a more nuanced way than most. You're one of the only content creators to date (AFAIK) who acknowledges that advantage hoarding was the primary issue, not over-saturation of advantages. The three idols in play were merely due to players being conservative with idols and hoarding them for weeks. Tai's idols were found at the wells of 2 original tribes' camps and Troy's idol was found at a challenge after the first swap. Not one of the idols played that night had been from the merged tribe's camp. They had all been found prior and saved. Additionally, if you were to ask me, I would argue that the legacy advantage was the least problematic advantage played that night, as it had been designed to be less powerful than an idol (since it could only be used at the final 6). Additionally, only a player who found it or had it willed to them could use it, unlike an idol which could be passed around and played for anyone. I think Cirie's elimination was just a combination of unfortunate circumstances and high-level play from the others. The production didn't give the players too many advantages. The players just chose to hold on to them as long as they could. I do, however, agree that advantages should have been given a "lifespan" earlier, and if they had, this situation would have been avoided.

[@ThorHC11]

I agree. A lot of people don't realize that there was only one other Idol played that entire season besides Night 36, that being the idol Tai played on Sierra to eliminate Malcolm.

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

Bro, if there is a situation where all but one person can make themselves safe, there are TOO MANY advantages in the game. Simple as that.

[@vicivitytan4376]

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong and how exactly were the producers supposed to foresee this outcome at the final six, all the way from the pre-merge?

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

@@vicivitytan4376 By not putting a bunch of idols and advantages into the game lmao.

[@vicivitytan4376]

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong even as far back as season 25, there were three idols pre-merge, which means this theoretically could have taken place at the final five if the season played out differently. Are you really going to make the argument that Survivor: Philippines had too many advantages?

[@InfinitePlaylist909]

Remember when DK Chillin got a purple edit and then in the final 2 episodes of IoI they began editing him as the winner all because of a coin flip...KING

[@majorzally24]

Top 5 all time EZ

[@mackenzie2k20]

dk chillin was actually entertaining in the boring post merge of ioi

[@allyson9459]

Janet should've been number 2. She hands down wouldve won and my heart still breaks for her.

[@jacksonia7724]

Tommy didn’t do anything, Janet and Lauren were easily the best 2 players

[@jacksonia7724]

Saikou210 oh my god! He was so badly edited and he just floated to 1,000,000 bucks. Awful season with a mediocre winner

[@Star_Jewel]

@@jacksonia7724 @Jack Sonia Not true. He won because of his impeccable social game. However, yes, he was essentially buried in the edit because of castaways like Janet & Elaine being the clear fan favorites.

[@jacksonia7724]

@@Star_Jewel yeah his social game was great but he didn’t do anything major.

[@Star_Jewel]

@@jacksonia7724 Having a superb social game IS something major. It doesn't matter how many blindsides you instigate or how many advantages you play if you're not deemed a standup person when all is said & done.

[@Ryan-mn2os]

I’m not sure, but I think that Cirie could win GC if it wasn’t for all of the advantages Without the legacy advantage: 6. Sarah idoled out by Tai’s idol. (3-3 Tai and Sarah) 5. Tai either voted for by Cirie or idoled out by Troy (3- 2 Tai and Troy) 4.Aubry- Cirie gets Brad and Troy to believe that she’s a bigger threat. (3-1 Aubry and Cirie) Cirie wins getting every vote except for maybe Sierra. ____________________________ Without Troy’s idol 6.Troy. Cirie wins fire making easily. (She’s played Survivor for over 120 days don’t tell me she wouldn’t win Fire just cuz she lost her 1st season) 5.Sarah (3-2 Sarah and Tai) Cirie is the swing but easily sides with Tai and Aubry 4.Tai (2-2) Cirie wins fire again and she convinces Brad, who wants Tai out bad, to vote for Tai.

[@abbyrose6660]

this is a nice alternate universe and all, but they wouldve had to have had rocks for brains to allow cirie to face the jury when she wins against anyone. i think she just gets voted out f5 or f4 if theres no advantage train

[@Ryan-mn2os]

abby rose Yeah in both of these situations it revolves around Cirie convincing at least one person to take her side in the f4. In both of these Cirie either wins, or comes in 4th.

[@lovefromshirley]

Cirie is, without question, my favourite survivor ever.

[@dhavaldesai6202]

I genuinely hated caremoan ,game changers ,ghost island after seeing island of idols I have found so much respect for those seasons .a good Survivor season needs great pepole who are human.

[@captainmulligan5748]

Watching Cirie realize she was the only one left was so sad. I felt so terrible for her. She is still one of my all time favorite people.

[@xlite4481]

This was a sad but awesome video!! Thank you for always producing amazing content! Already excited for the next vid!! :)

[@baconweave5159]

This channel is an absolute gem. I've watched more survivor on Idoled Out than on TV

[@subhasomaskandan5786]

okay but season 39 blindsides were everything.. I absolutely loved the Jason tribal

[@StephenWong14]

I won't be surprised if some genius in production come up with the idea of immunity necklace nullifier in future seasons.

[@MaxI-cn7vr]

While advantages are dope, I’d love to see a back to basics no advantages season

[@thouxanbando]

Exactly

[@romanzolanski6256]

Jeff said it will never gonna happen, sadly.

[@theemeraldaxe1414]

Maybe with just idols, but they're harder way harder to find

[@omaradil6541]

at least no more immunity idol nullifier..the whole tribe knew about Dan's and Janet's immunity idols so there was no way to avoid that ..it's not fair..and with that nullifier in play the immunity idols are no more a strategic tool to sway somebody's vote at tribal council if somebody played it or showed it before voting ..imagine Tony would have been voted out had Parvatti's idol nullifier been played after all that high game level from Tony..that would have been a disaster..

[@noahs5636]

The biggest twist of all at this point lol

[@llamaarmyaldc9436]

My favorite advantages are the risk vs reward ones (safety without power, idols hidden at challenges or inside the camp, sneaking into the other tribe’s camp, etc). It keeps the game fresh without being too game breaking. Also, I’m not talking about a coin flip advantage. I think obtaining an advantage should require some action/strategy on the part of the player

[@danielracz8680]

Slow your roll. Calling tails takes some skill /s

[@esinger23]

The idol nullifier was brutal

[@juliejustdance]

I am still so upset about Janet. Dean knew that Janet had the idol so there was really no questioning behind the decision to play the nullifier. He knew she would play it because it was the last time she could. Janet was the best person on that season in my opinion so it was so sad to see her go out this way. #Stanet

[@crosscourttennis1796]

stanet lol

[@hayamihinata4135]

#Stanet

[@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561]

@@im903yearsold here's the worst part had there been a final 6 round dean would've been voted out don't forget he was convinced the fake legacy advantage was real & was BRAGGING 2 Rob & Sandra about how he was gonna get all the votes put on him so he could blindside everybody by playing the legacy advantage so imagine how funny it would've been 2 c the look on deans face as he puts all the votes on him smugly walks up 2 Jeff 2 play the advantage crowing about how he outsmarted them all only 2 fall n2 a look of horror as Jeff says it's NOT real & all votes 4 Dean will still count plus Janet wouldn't have been fucked out of a spot n the final 4 & possibly the final 3(Tommy probably would've won immunity & put Lauren against Janet n fire & taught Lauren enough 2 beat Janet)

[@lionboy1053]

Cirie's and Janet's eliminations sting they most. They probably would have been the respective winners of each of their seasons; namely, (Seasons 34 and 39).

[@noahs5636]

I’m not so sure Cirie makes it to the end of game changers but if she does I think she can win. Nevertheless it’s still incredibly frustrating to see one of my favorite players taken out like that. So unfair.

[@mrmetsman7693]

Jamal with it literally hanging in the air

[@MrBen51309]

Video suggestion: When players find unintended shortcuts to challenges.

[@SW_Y9]

I love Dans he plays the idol and is like "Oh yeah, I'm safe." Only to hear "and this is an idol nullifier." He his face just drops.

[@katelynbass858]

I think they should bring Neil back for another season, he was a good player, he was committed and it was obvious that he still had a lot of game left in him, #justiceforNeil

[@digemxc]

Carl's BING is a top 10 tribal moment ever for me

[@lfgmets49]

Idoled out this channel is awesome keep making great videos

[@federicosaldias1222]

Cirie is seriously the reason I watch and love Survivor.

[@sidequestorian5107]

If it was anyone but Cirie I would've rioted

[@brendanfechter4889]

Fun Behind the Scenes Fact: Jessica didn't want to give the disadvantage to Devon. She wanted it to block one of the Heroes, but Ben bullied her into not doing that, Ben of course knowing about it because Cole couldn't keep his mouth shut. He wasn't gonna let her give it to a hero, and he wasn't gonna convince her to give it to a healer, so it went to Devon, the sole hustler.

[@N0TK8]

ngl i got bully vibes from him that season so that tracks

[@maley2552]

I like the extra/steal a vote, those aren't game breaking

[@zjzr08]

Interesting Note: Joe using the idol didn't matter to whoever he choose after that Vote Block, because even if they tie 2-2 on Desi, Desi would've been safe in rock draw, i.e. they can practically control who goes home in consensus.

[@OhSkyeLanta]

Cerie is the main player I think deserves a win more than anything, since almost every time she's been voted out has been literal bad luck and not something she could have affected by playing the game differently. A true star who deserves to have her moment in the sun.

[@dancasey7]

Great video idoled out!

[@jacksonia7724]

I’d say aubry was more screwed over than neal

[@sophiaboynton8695]

Don’t get me wrong I love Aubry but even without the advantage she still wouldn’t have won. Also, the fact that Neal was pulled from the game after being a long time fan, having an idol, and it being a medical evacuation I think him loosing his jury vote was pretty screwed over.

[@ThePercyJacksonDude]

I love that thumbnail because we all automatically know what it is.

[@lucasroberts3489]

i feel like chrissy was royally screwed by the final 4 fire making challenge more than devon was bc had she knew about that twist before hand she would’ve most likely have tried to take out devon before the f4 and kept someone who could make a better fire and have them try to take out ben instead, and knowing about the twist the day of tribal hurts bc there was no way anybody could’ve prepared for that more so than make a plan. i mean chrissy did try to make it work by only telling devon so he could practice but look what happened lmao

[@airtempest8945]

My top 6: Abbey from Survivor AU Season 4: Taken out by a remove from tribal power. Basically the proto-Safety Without Power, where you can remove anyone from tribal who can't vote, but is safe. Luke removes Baden to create a 2-1-1 vote where Abbey goes home to keep Pia in the game (Although, like...why not just use it on Pia 'cause then Abbey probably goes 3-1 anyways since Baden and Harry aren't voting for each other, but still Abbey would have been screwed). Annalise from Survivor AU Season 2: Taken out by Ziggy's weird super idol thing. Basically, Ziggy had this weird super idol that is an idol, but it also flushes all other idols played in the same tribal that is it, so Ziggy just plays it like an idol nullifer to take out Annalise, something that had never happened up to that point (Since it happened before Season 37). Dan from Season 37. Same reason you said. Micheala from Season 34. Screwed over by the weird rules around the steal vote where it was worded in a weird way that allowed for Cirie to be tricked into thinking it was playable by anyone Sarah gave it to. Cirie from Season 34 and Steffi from Survivor SA Season 7. Screwed for the same reason you said with all those damn advantages. That being said, for Steffi, she was probably going home anyways 'cause she would have been voted out 2-1 on the re-vote anyways (Rob and Nicole vote for her, and Latecia votes for Darou). Alison's alliance from Survivor SA Season 4. Basically it was a 3-3 split at the final 6 of Survivor SA Season 4, Hyke, Bonnie and Letchego all had an advantage (Bonnie had an advantage which let her negate a vote, Hyke had immunity and Letchego had an idol), meaning that Alison's side was completely screwed here. It was basically advantagegeddon, but with a block a vote instead of 2 idols/legacy advantages. If you can't tell, I really dislike either advantagegeddons, or unprecedented advantages screwing over people.

[@romanzolanski6256]

Michaela wasn't screwed by an advantage, she was screwed by Sarah (and Cirie) who knew the rules of the advantage and was looking for some trust from Cirie but because Cirie was gonna play it against her (like wtf??) and Cirie didn't knew the rules she them decide to voted out Michaela. Neither the advantage itself or neither Michaela was the reason that she was voted out.

[@airtempest8945]

@@romanzolanski6256 Yeah, that's what I was saying. It was the rules of the advantage not being really outside of what it did in name causing confusion that lead to Michaela being screwed over.

[@jeffersonhernandez7978]

What about chrissy's advantage during the final immunity challenge in HvHvH?? She was screwed because the advantage either way benefits Ben's game. I say at least devon and chrissy should have had a spot on the list. Anyway, GREAT CONTENT AS ALWAYS! Keep doing these kinds of videos

[@noahs5636]

They’re on the worst twists list because the thing Chrissy got was more of a twist than an advantage. Especially since it was the first time it appears.

[@Arkaine197]

It triggers me to hear Jamal described as "a likeable player"

[@jesmccoy26]

This just made me remember how stupid that hanging parchment was smh Jamal got screwed over

[@matthewp535]

I think this needs to be redone this list with the amount of twists production has now

[@jobee1]

Cirie hands down the most screwed survivor player. She took it with so much grace and earned my undying respect.

[@totaldramatyler4484]

This is a few years later but Sydney got completely screwed by the hourglass twist. It is so stupid. If you win immunity, you keep it, end of story

[@dembonez19]

I go back and forth with Natalie. She had an advantage for being the first voted out, but it was amplified by the fact that the next couple of vote-offs didn't care. Amber was JUST there for her husband and was no threat to Natalie at all. They gave her so much more momentum that she really didn't have any competition until Tyson showed up many days later. Poor Janet 💖Island of the Idols could've had an amazing winner, but instead we were stuck with...Bobby...? Billy...?

[@TransparentEclipse]

The super idol is so op. Think about this, out of the 3 that have existed in the history of survivor, the first owner never played it and got third place and would’ve easily won had he gotten to the end, the second was also never played and the owner won, and the third was ALSO never played and the owner also won THAT game. In its 3 iterations it has yet to see a single time it has been played, and all 3 times the person either couldn’t get to final tribal because it expired, or got to final tribal and won. Truly the most ridiculous advantage ever, the only one in history that u don’t even have to play to have power with it.

[@maxhines4705]

Next can we do top 10 screwed by a stick?

[@theendofit]

Imagine a season where all hidden idols only last one tribal. Lol things would go crazy as theyed alsways use them

[@UncleeDaddyy]

number one in future videos will be the newest season with the "i get to ask if you have the idol"used on xander :D i dont remember the name of the person asking/ being screwed because i found the season terrible, but it was a great moment

[@AnalyticalStrategy]

Even though production are limiting the duration advantages can be played - we still could have seen another Cirie'ing in Winners at War to the one and only Tony when Sandra was eliminated. Jeremy could have walked out of tribal, and Sandra, Kim and Denise all could have saved themselves making Tony go home by default. Please oh please production don't allow this to happen again! Great video as always!

[@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561]

Except by the time they went 2 tribal Sandra had already given up her idol leaving her exposed so she still would've been taken out w/ Denise's vote

[@dembonez19]

Natalie had even more of an advantage since she was basically out there uncontested until Tyson showed up. Amber couldn't have cared less. She was so frustrating and my least favorite of the whole season. And Danni and Ethan weren't as strong by comparison either.

[@brettlarkin1992]

Amber is pathetic. I’m expecting to be disappointed when I get a chance to watch her gameplay in Allstars

[@vaporterra]

Brett Larkin Amber didn’t play that badly in All Stars. She’s an under the radar player and Shii Ann notices her strategy

[@noahs5636]

I was happy to see her back but yeah it was a little disappointing to see her only play for Rob. That being said, she’s a fantastic narrator and her confessionals on the Edge were actually really enjoyable to watch (and I’m someone who absolutely hates the concept of the Edge). Especially her last one before they all left for the final battle back challenge.

[@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561]

@@brettlarkin1992 she really only did so poorly because 1 she was w/ her husband who just so happens 2 b arguably THE MOST FAMOUS PLAYER EVER & 2 it'd been SSSOOO long since she played & the game had changed SSSOOO much that she just couldn't cope & adapt the last time she played there were no such things as advantages not even idols it was a str8 up if u get the votes ur fucked & hell even Rob struggled w/ the idols n waw & the others on his tribe even said didn't u find an idol n the season u won & Rob said yea w/ like 4 clues that's y Ben was like hey guys I can teach u how 2 find idols if u want that was his most valuable skill waw was really geared towards the new school winners they had the most experience finding & dealing w/ advantages & dealing w/ fast paced gameplay whereas the old school winners like Ethan & Amber were really WAY out of their league & even old/new school winners like Parvati Rob & Sandra struggled w/ the advantages & fast paced gameplay let's b real this season was MADE 4 a winner like Tony every1s on an equal playing field aka they've all won so that doesn't create a target on any1s back & there's so many big names out there that Tony actually has the chance 2 lay low & blend n2 the background & get people 2 lower their guard

[@booshbear]

to be fair, janet only wouldve made it to the end via two twists (fire making and idol), so she really wasnt that robbed

[@christophermaybury4918]

I'm surprised we never saw the jury nullifier again.

[@williamfoster2681]

I don't even watch survivor.... but I watch this channel

[@gavincrumley9305]

Jeremy pissed me off so much in waw if he stayed he had a chance to win

[@angelamcdaniel849]

Cirie got screwed! She would have won!

[@musicguy713]

IOI is just a season that should've been amazing, but it just went horribly wrong. Dean the frat white boy who hadn't done shit managed to flip a coin to get a nullifier. Literally all the woman and Vince had much harder tasks to get advantages, but Dean literally got it and walked away. Janet could've won and it would've saved the entire season. So maddening.

[@darksiderider1233]

Yup...I was just reminded how annoyed I was at what happened to Jamal. I wasn't a big fan or anything but that was so messed up amplified with his huge failure at making a fake something

[@tzvielkahan1176]

Do a video of all the power alliances of each season 1-40

[@Whyalooknatme333]

I still think Chrissy Hofbeck from Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers was the most screwed. Earning the final "advantage" and that advantage taking away her ability to choose the final 3 by removing voting from the final four of the game.... which was out of no where and guaranteed Ben won after he had been (IMO) given every chance possible to win immunities for challenge after challenge. It left a really bad taste in my mouth and has made me question production interference heavily ever since.

[@wesleymodling3457]

I’ll never get over 12:05

[@englandismycity1617]

What about 28-3

[@wesleymodling3457]

England is my CITY that too

[@Js-uz5sg]

NEAL was about to give the nastiest... most brutal Corinne type x10 speech ever. That was a genius move by Michelle

[@musicguy713]

You're missing though that Kim had an idol at the Tyson vote off. She was ready to play it for Jeremy and would've saved him. Causing the big huge mess and she played it for Denise.

[@leemonday6732]

Jen Guzon Bae of Cook islands was the most screwed by that fucking bottle twist

[@omaradil6541]

I said it before and now and forever..Ozzy and Cirie are the true king and queen who never won survivor..they both are very good players ..got screwed time after time with twists and bad luck..Ozzy was screwed on Cook lsland by first ever final 3 and not final 2 , Cirie was screwed on Micronesia by switching back to final 2 and not final 3 ...not to mention Yul's super idol that kept him safe and Ozzy had no chance to get him out..then Ozzy got screwed by bad luck in the final immunity challenge on South Pacific when he lost to Sophie and no fire making challenge at final 4 at that time ....Cirie on the other hand, she lost the final 4 fire making challenge on Panama Exile island ..then got screwed by final 2 twist on Miceonesia due to many players were medevaced and the production needed extra challenge to fill the episodes ...then got screwed by the most ever heartbreaking tribal council on Game Changers when she was eliminated by default..and even Jeff couldn't say the usual phrase " the tribe has spoken" and she had 0 votes against her.

[@duxverdale]

I feel really bad for Jason. He got screwed by an advantage on a 4-4 division, in which Aaron was gonna flip on his tribe. He not only was not able to vote, was also voted out, and was unable to be apart of the jury being voted out 1 tribal before it started. He started his game rough, being part of the minority (and almost being a second boot), but was quickly able to rally allies together to defend him from being voted out. Great and underrated player / survivor fan who's story got cut short from a vote block. :(

[@roger_towny_jr]

Did you hear that the OG plan that night was actually to vote off Aaron? The four Vokai were working Aaron and Missy into convincing them to turn on Elaine, but the four of them were actually then going to blindside Aaron, and take him out in a plurality vote while Lairo turned on their own. (This also works as a counter measure just in case Elaine came back from the Island of the Idols with an actual idol). But then Elaine played the vote block, and that's why you see them whispering, trying to turn their votes back to Elaine and just pray Arron was still down to vote with them. "Hey, don't trust Aaron." Says the guy not ten minutes ago was ready to vote Aaron's ass out.

[@JC-lb3df]

Honestly if I was told to decide the amount of advantages and idols in the game I would do 2 tribe and idols 1 new made third tribe idol if we got from 2 to 3 2 merge idols 1 out at the start and the second appearing after we get 3 jury members And 2 advantages like vote steal and idol nullifier for example 1 released in the game in the merge and one in the pre-merge so its a great amount of advantages there but limited not like play an idol ok now a new idol appears which I kinda hate because then you get stuff like Ben in HHH happening where they just keep finding the idol like an Easter egg hunt(don’t get me wrong I think Bens a cool dude heck I loved him a lot in the WaW finally because he knew he was losing and took a sacrifice for a teammate so he got more respect points)

[@spdprawcereal7181]

No.

[@noahs5636]

I’d say an idol at each camp that can only be played in the premerge. If they go from 2 to 3 tribes another idol is hidden at the new tribe camp. These idols do not return into the game after being played. At the merge, one idol is hidden and another must be retrieved either at a challenge or on a reward or something. 2 other advantages at max can be received on a reward or at a challenge as well and none of these return to the game after being played. Final four fire making is removed. Imo that would be a fair way to distribute avantages without them piling up unfairly or majorly screwing people over while still keeping the game interesting and exciting. Also either hide the fucking idols better or go back to using clues and I swear to god DO NOT re-hide the idols after they’ve been used!!!

[@GeorgeEugeneBarrett]

Jessica completely misplayed that vote block in HHH. She needed Devon available to side with the Healers. She should have taken a Hero’s vote. She almost ensured a tie vote and rock draw if not for Joe’s idol.

[@jpbproductions3872]

The player from each season most screwed by twists. (Top Borneo all the way down to Winners at war): Rudy Varner Silas Paschal Shi-Ann Dave Savage Rupert Brook Wanda Bobby Jon Cirie Ozzy Michelle Yi Aaron Cirie Jacquie Fishbach Liz Tyson Holly Sarita Rick Leif RC Phillip Marissa Spencer Keith Rodney Keith Aubry Jessica Cirie Devon Stephanie Dan Victoria Janet Sarah

[@jaredfreeley8283]

What screwed Rudy?

[@noahs5636]

It upsets me how many times Cirie is on this list

[@jjane222]

I watched this just to make sure Cirie was number one

[@itsaschooledthingy9384]

Jemery be like: Cya sucker's! Jeff be like: Tyson the tribe has spoken.

[@will.amartinnn]

i had a stroke reading this

[@popmans9999]

I called #1 from the twist video when you talk you were doing advantages in a few days

[@erikschultz934]

Yea I’m tired of hearing about island of the idols. At this point, it makes edge of extinction look good.

[@vaporterra]

I’ll take Tommy winning over Chris

[@majorzally24]

vaporterra easily, tommy is underrated imo just because of how shitty the season was

[@kkneebone]

Low-key Jamal could have not written on the parchment and called it a steal a vote 😏

[@cdawg4021]

Yeah in a interview Jamal said he couldn't do that.🤔

[@nadavharari5125]

Cirie was screwed also in Panama by Terry's super Idol. If not for the idol Terry gets voted out at final 4. Danielle wins final immunity and probably takes Cirie to the final 2, where Cirie beats her

[@VitaEmerald324]

“Had trouble keeping track” Did you miss the reminders in the confessionals? Not bashing you just asking.

[@noahs5636]

There’s were only a recent addition. In Game Changers for instance I had no idea who had what. Also it’s nice that they’re there but even still it’s hard to keep track, especially when some people don’t get confessionals in an episode or multiple at a time.

[@reginamachamer821]

I mean.. I know the advantages make it feel like it's not fair.. but idk I mean they all stand the risk of being screwed by an advantage, and when it's one of our faves who gets the advantages they're suddenly not as annoying lol idk I do definitely think there have been certain advantages or twists that did kind of feel like the producers were just intentionally trying to get a specific person off (or trying to save a specific person), and that's not cool.. bottom line I'm cool with the advantages and twists when it's an open shot for anyone to get them and it's random and fair.

[@Nerferdude98]

2:05 he did it again

[@slospop1125]

I hate game changers solely for what happened to Cirie

[@Ratt1eHead]

Survivor advantages and idols are like Fight Club. There are rules!

[@shane2095]

Devon was screwed so hard and was such an awesome player. Without that lame twist he wins easy.

[@londonbordeaux]

I wish to never see the cast of IOI except for Dean.

[@josabby474]

39 would have been a much better season if Dan had been screwed by the vote block or hanging envelope instead of Jason or Jamal or if he’d been his tribe’s first boot instead of Molly.

[@noahs5636]

Jamal got so fucking screwed that was so bs

[@derekkee5588]

Two seconds in and I can already guess with almost 100% certainty who’s gonna be at the top of the list by a mile

[@ThePercyJacksonDude]

What if Cirie had had an idol? What would they have done then if everyone was immune??

[@sillykyle17]

There were only 3 idols available, one from each camp.

[@mattm8108]

On winners at war the people voted out should’ve got to keep their fire tokens

[@trackmonster8312]

when cirie left game changers went downhill

[@kyletucker3811]

I'm playing my universal belovedness nullifier. I'm not a huge Cirie fan. For some reason I just never liked her. So I wasn't exactly torn up about her getting voted out that way. It was actually kind of funny.

[@sniper8560]

Dan, Janet, etc

[@cjs8134]

Wasn't john from david vs goliath screwed by the idols from Davey

[@cjs8134]

Fixed it

[@null6955]

john was screwed by davie's idol that he played for christian and dan's irresponsible idol play to angelina

[@sentientsardine9729]

I don't really think of that as an advantage screw, that was just a minority vote split.

[@cjs8134]

Idols are advantages

[@iansunbury987]

Saw Cirie at the top of the list from a mile away.

[@samspady5]

If they do Fans Vs Favourites again heres who I want Males: Rick Devons, Christian, Davey, Dr. Mike, Rodney Females: Natalie Bolton, Chrissy, Reem, Gabbi, Shambo

[@marillynheigl5175]

Rodney on a favorites tribe? I really don’t see that. He could be a villain if they ever do Heroes versus Villains, but he shouldn’t be a favorite.

[@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561]

Shambo will NEVER play again & probably stopped watching after Samoa due 2 Russel not winning like she said she was gonna do

[@Typi]

If there is one thing Ive learned not to do under ANY circumstances: NEVER tell anyone you have a legacy advantage. Just dont. It has NEVER worked out well.

[@cenoflame21]

Everyone on Island of the Idols had the advantage of a big gross shield named Dan. They loved their big gross shield.