Idolmaster turns Marine into a gacha addict once again [Hololive]

[@KiririnIchiban]

Thank god Marine got me out of my crippling gacha addiction. Now I just SC all the money I would have spent there.

[@casserol2202]

oh the folly of men

[@_Erogaki]

It is also cheaper to simp for these ladies than wasting away at gacha games.

[@-zentheintergalacticninja6568]

As a wise monk once said: "Waifus, man. Waifus."

[@ChinchillaBONK]

Technically it's the same. it's just that you passed your gacha money to Senchou to pull on your behalf for her sake. Hahahaha

[@workwork7837]

@@ChinchillaBONK Two birds with one stone

[@liamciaran]

Marine is so fucking funny, literally always. She's easily top 3 Holo in terms of just vocal entertainment. Bless this little coomer.

[@Syncopia]

There's no tricks here, what you see is what you get.

[@klittlet]

* Pictures coomer image but with marine's hair

[@TheDoctorofOdoIsland]

"It's the one who's been milked over a million times in ero-doujin. Shizuku-san!" Senchou is a true woman of culture indeed.

[@shirayajo7590]

Ah yes, that bribery buff the game dev gave to you when you're back after a hiatus so you can get stuck in the same gacha hell all over again.. Also dang Senchou, what kind of Idolmasters doujins did you read? X"D As always thanks for the cultured clip Shabby! Omw to n to check out some tags reading material as well

[@RagnarokMasta]

Senchou, even if you have the cash now, be smart, don't give into the pulling addiction.

[@SuperCatacata]

I know this is probably sarcasm. But nothing is more annoying than fans pretending to be a hololive mem's parents. That shit is so cringe, they are grown adults who can do what they want. Stop pretending to know better. Rant over.

[@spookydan39]

@@SuperCatacata People can do what they want, sure, nobody can force her to do it or not. That's up to her, live and let live. But according to Marine, she spent about 1 million yen on this gacha, almost 10k usd. She was addicted pure and simple, and generally encouraging gambling is something people don't do. Its like if you hear about a singer that you like is addicted to cocaine. Maybe you can't do anything, but surely you'd want them to get help?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I always take it with moderation. If it is something enjoy there is nothing wrong about spending a bit, but don't let it go so far to cause issues with life.

[@YuSooKey]

@@SuperCatacata Got it. Never give anyone advice on anything if they're an adult.

[@briansantos1700]

@@SuperCatacata You'll be surprised with the number of stupid decisions adults do on a regular basis. The good thing about people is that we're all stupid and smart in different ways that we even each other out if we're willing.

[@DarkYamatoman]

"Enjoy sports? More like enjoy oppai" lmfao, I love Marine

[@lolzant397]

11:53 "It's the most pornpular girl!!!!"

[@casserol2202]

2:48 omg new Senchou noise

[@darlinglove7602]

if you looped that it'd be a very good alarm lol 'eh?! eh?! eh?! eh?! eh?! '

[@pensmith]

Senchou... don't return to the dark side.

[@atomicflame22]

Too late brother. let's join hands together towards the dark with senchou

[@jack-exzolt9858]

**Pulls an SS** Senchou: "Oh yah, I've only seen her in H-Doujins" Okay...

[@burnoutcat2387]

I wonder what if she read Alp's They're pretty great

[@lemao2222]

it's one of, if not The largest parody tags on the internet. I could recognize Shibuya Rin, yet I haven't played a single im@s game.

[@shinodamasaru7945]

Cultured senchou

[@NguyenHoang-horizon]

0:39 The song automatically played in my head lmao.

[@mercurialinterference6931]

welcome back to the gacha hell, marine.

[@Akumasama]

If you put your ear to a seashell, you will hear sounds of the ocean, such as the majestic cries of a whale. "Ahoy!" Fantastic.

[@Baronight]

Watching this just make me feel nostalgic...if only marine can still play Azur Lane, her commentary would be hilarious

[@lucaswibisono1316]

Especially Azur Lane these days... Im sure she'll like it.

[@FJTA]

True true

[@kingofbel6499]

this gacha is actually not bad as a f2p because I had a lot of SSR idols without spending a cent.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

Plus you can still reuse them. This here is how good Gacha game should be. Not the type where it forces you to do so like many games under Bandai... Trust me it's hell even YGO game under its banner.

[@piggypoo]

Tbqh regarding that ending image, Shabby has impeccable taste in anime.

[@kayvenperez2250]

Shabz sama, thank you for your hard work! 🙏

[@ThePuppet13r]

I felt the same way with the new Konosuba game... I couldn't stop till I get the SS Megumin 😅

[@herofromthedark]

Now when Marine says "milked"... does she mean it as "she's been used over and over again," or does she mean milked like a cow??

[@Jasdebi148]

literally milked like a cow (and often in a cow outfit). You can check it for yourself if you look up the cultured pictures.

[@MetronaJ]

Just as the other person mentioned Milked like a cow She's the farm girl idol so uhhh yeah

[@johnlambert1505]

Farm girl: ✔️ Big opp*i: ✔️ Cow outfit: ✔️ milked opp*i doujin: 📈📈📈

[@frostxtb8990]

@@johnlambert1505 hmmm sounds like noel XD

[@imstupid880]

Both

[@burnoutcat2387]

Senchou gained a better understanding of how we feel watching her

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Seeing her so exited about cute live2d girls in a gacha game only confirms that we need a hologacha. Now! Oh and senchou also demonstrates beiing highly culturred in her favorites.

[@friskyhearttryhardus3283]

Senchou... after that lecture about the dangers of gacha... why are you descending down to hell on your own free will lol

[@imstupid880]

Always glad to see Marine being one of the boys. >pity roll at 300 Ah, if only. That could fill the hole left by Gibara.

[@khakisohn9710]

Ayooo azazel at the end oml I'm so glad someone else knows this fucked up show lolol

[@hitnfgsbluntd1194]

Which the way Marine speaks, I often forget she is only 17(season 12)!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrZestful]

12:19

[@timothyng3226]

foolish senchou. Does she still not know that rate up is a lie

[@Bob.Roberts]

11:55 I was about to say, I've only ever seen her in a cow costume, lol.

[@jaywye]

5:35 Ryoute hirogete motto zenshin shiyou!

[@darkatsuki1289]

I can relate to Marine somehow, i dont really follow Idolmaster much but Im familiar of the characters because of ero-doujins XD

[@bakasuka]

The ero ero nurse has the same bday month and date as me ;-; KEKW

[@kathartik9000]

To think the only experience I have with this game is through doujins...

[@oujimandias6485]

Like わかるマン once said, 「ここすき！」

[@cry9438]

Ah yes, an ultra rare JPEG. A thousand dollars well spent.

[@chikomitata]

Prozd reference!?

[@Mecks089]

There goes all of Senchou's paycheck again.

[@Snozzwangler]

Oh no... Not again...

[@paorousama]

Ah yes she likes shiki the most Yes that checks out Hope she does a cover of secret eau de toilette

[@Morikub0]

So the one she likes the most is Shiki. I knew she had good taste.

[@buriedghostlady]

The ending.. same XD

[@pingu6338]

Wtf is an unemployment benefit?? And also I guess the Devs are welcoming a former whale with the rates..

[@セチャワン]

When you just got fired or retired you get those money (period) it's like an insurance

[@randomlurker7929]

She's a gambling addict.. how is this woman so impossibly based

[@UPaulD4]

""Enjoy sports?" More like "Enjoy oppai." I actually laughed out loud.

[@DKPGames]

This is so predatory i feel bad for her

[@eternumblaze7097]

Welcome back to gacha hell Senchou.

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

once again, huh. nice. once a gacha addict, always a gacha addict.

[@pd_t]

I do not get these games. Still, Fumika live 2D SSR swimsuit is the best swimsuit in the game. The voice actor for sugar heart cracks me up with her lines.

[@isaac10231]

I never have and never will play a gacha.

[@benschmidt8168]

It's a shame that million live isn't anyone in hololive's first choice. The person that does I will simp to them immediately.

[@goleogthais]

imagine spending so much money gambling just to get some gifs, when you can just get the art for free

[@Syncopia]

Don't do gacha kids

[@burnoutcat2387]

Part of why I dropped Fate GO (totally not because I deleted my data like an idiot while transferring it) after a while you figure that you can just get the images WITHOUT getting the characters

[@oyah999]

u also pay for the quick shot of dopamine to your brain. also depression and regret

[@MetronaJ]

Ah but in this game They come with a 3d model you can put into music videos :v

[@Syncopia]

Marine simps for idol booba for 12 minutes.

[@Fourbix]

If her public is any good, they will prevent her to fall once again into addiction. We all know she can do much more than rolling to obtain fan arts of girls she could draw herself.

[@NightSterling]

Man i miss marine's azur lane streams

[@gizemlicocuk3468]

11:52

[@LemonRush7777]

I'm glad this game is not in english. I am 100% sure I would fall into gacha hell with it if it was...

[@johnlambert1505]

you play deresute for the beautiful character cards, 3D models concert mode, and the main feature which is Im@s song. so you don't even need english translation to play it. your only need to make a japanese google account, install it, and welcome to gacha hell

[@LemonRush7777]

@@johnlambert1505 NO! Stop! You will not tempt me!

[@johnlambert1505]

A..aaah.. this clip is so salty T _ T )

[@infinitykiyen6270]

My game review on that is actually pretty good. Sure it's hard to earn gems for gacha but... Do you really need them? Not much cause you can still reuse the previous idol just fine. That's good game design. Not forcing player to buy staff to win. Bad example would be... SAO MD games under Bandai -You can't win the reward without event limited character as it is "Created just for the event" -Gacha rate sucks... -Hard to earn gems... Summery you will have to whale it to at least follow up with the event... I'm not even talking about ranking there... The ranking is way worse now thx to gacha. Think of it as Genshin Impact but with worse rate and has ranking... Imagine how much you would whale to get to top 10. Originally it wasn't this bad until they introducing 5 star and then 6-8 star. That's when it gets weird. If only they knew 4 star is already a hard drop... This is like try to divide 1% rate and do it again. Originally it was 4 stars around 1-5%. (As rarest) Now it's 5-8 star with 0.00xxx (as rarest) Now you get why adding rarity is bad? Like what gacha game should NEVER do is reinvented a rarer unit... Like dafuq is that? Just stick with your own rarity! Fun fact the rate there is worse than FGO but with pity... Though those pity only whale could ever afford. Since in general gacha there is already a luxury so F2P can't even reach pity roll... For some reason this keep happening in Bandai game. -Tales of game? Also adding more rarity... -YGO? This one it's fair cause all meta will win... It actually would be better off in real life because we can trade cards there in game shop... -3D MMO SAO game? Follow SAO MD route... I don't understand but Bandai is killing off its own game... Eventually yes, they will get massive money but in short term... They should look up to how FGO manage to stay alive for 7 years. It's one of the oldest yet most balanced gacha with actual tactics I ever see. -Need guide to clear with low rarity? It exists cause the GM run test to make sure it works. -No gacha gameplay? It also possible with just event servant... I'm not joking you can run the entirely game with just Friend Point gacha. Though this takes COMMITMENT! -Solo run with a single SSR every quest? It's possible... There's a variety of video featuring that too as proof. -Quest being too hard? No worry the GM will set that as an optional quest. They already test it to make sure any player can clear it. You just need a bit of brain power. It's balanced but yeah, it's also growing old. Nothing last forever like... A lot actually go to Genshin Impact now.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

Like seriously... I dare those GM to play their game with low rarity and clear their fking quest... Cause I as formal top 7 in ranking can't... Why so? Cause you damage score lock! Low rarity in SAO MD has low damage thus will lose cause of damage lock! Oh, also low damage means low DPS... This means it takes too long so you will also get a TIME OUT! It's never possible... I actually try it too. I try challenge current game with maxed out 4 stars... Guess what? I lost cause of time out. Imagine a new player want to get all the item... All my advice would be "Get lucky roll for the event character... I try another route but it's not possible :')" At this point I think you would rather play online gamble game like... -Online Pocker -Manjo -Etc That's why increase rarity just blow the game... Grinding can help but that would take months now... Compare to gamble... It's an equal to just adding "special text" on each poker card... Even if the card state 2 heart some might has effect of "times 10" That's the level of how bad it was... A lot of gambler would call that as cheatiing.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

Worse in SAO MD... It's a copy of what I said in repeating route... That's bad game...

[@chikomitata]

I prefer developer following GBF than FGO. But if a game manage to make you prefer FGO than it, it really needs consideration. But seriously, I'll always write that FGO needs pity system. No, unregistered spirit origin is not a pity. People writing having 1k SQ and hoping to got a unit is sad since in other game, that amount is already spark.

[@infinitykiyen6270]

@@chikomitata Yes I agree the game management is godlike but no pity? That's kinda bad TBH XD So yeah GBF will win in the pity system for sure.

[@Deses]

This proves that gacha is designed to part you from your money.

[@Ryo-SeiaEnjoyer]

I know marine feel about offers But it hurts me when someone spends directly on gems Im someone who spends like 1 times a month so i like always to go for offers and hurts me seing someone getting that much duppes lol

[@malayabiz]

I wish marine would play azur lane again *sadge

[@manat31790]

I don't really quite understand what's the deal with gacha addicts. I do play some Japanese mobile games. They give me bucket loads of in-game currency just because I haven't played them for a while, so I used them to roll limited items and rare characters. I mainly play Powapuro Appli, and I have a dozen of PSR characters without really trying. These mobile games are a lot less demanding on root boxes than PC games, like Team Fortress 2 where you get crates that are completely useless if you aren't willing to pay for keys. Unless you really want specific characters or try to brag your all 5-star cast roster, there isn't really any reason to spend real money on gacha.

[@IronicHavoc]

I honestly have zero idea what the actual gameplay of Cinderella Girls is.

[@MetronaJ]

Its a rhythm game

[@deckyfx2188]

Didn't marine just pulled a F2P BTW move?

[@dorklymorkly3290]

more ecchi material on the internet, for free and piracy than one can look at in ones lifetime. spend ungodly amounts of money on gacha for not even that.

[@Eclipse8502]

Watching an anime girl pull gacha for anime girls

[@vantasethatsit9903]

Mio in the doujin verse is not energetic? Well somehow most of the doujin verse plot is kinda..... Harsh on her.

[@-Osiris-]

I never understood gacha games, you pull the cards but then what? How do you 'win'?

[@LordSerpent]

you win by quitting

[@picklejhojho]

Neurone activation

[@Sisyanor]

No idea, can’t she use them throught the game or something?

[@jaymzOG]

Well some of them have story modes and rare characters have higher stats. Otherwise it's just like pulling cards out of Pokemon or Yugioh card packs.

[@lolzant397]

You pull the cards and in some gacha they're used in gameplay Idk how is it on deresute but I think aside from the gacha side it's a rythm game? At least that's what I think idol gacha games are like The end goal of those games it's to uninstall them

[@kenalcaraz5254]

So Shabs (or anyone), why did the game's JP nickname become Dere-Ste? I was expecting something like Cin-Sta or something.

[@Jasonmoofang]

"Dere" is from "cinDERElla girls", hence this branch is referred to as "derem@s" to differentiate from the other im@s branches. "sute" is from "starlight STAge", "stage" being "sute-ji" in katakana. The japanese have an interesting sense for abbreviation :)

[@dasssad]

@@Jasonmoofang Actually, Original Dere-mas(The Idolmaster Cinderella Girls) had been commonly called "Moba-mas"(stand for a I-mas that developed by Mobage) or "Sinde-mas"(a Japanese pun that literally means "Being dead") by early fans. But After thier internet radio show was officially shorten as "Dere-raji"(they connected "sindereRA" to "RAjio" ) , they started using "Dere-" as an official abbreviation for the Cinderella girls series.

[@planguy9575]

Honestly how many Gacha addicts are in Hololive?

[@Strayfish.]

What can you do with the character tho ?

[@YuSooKey]

She has such horrible impulse control that gacha should be banned for Marine.

[@MaxiUsagi]

wait there's an unemployment benefits?

[@darwishazrel2002]

what is sadpanda?

[@Nam9xz]

Some kind of website, you know.

[@Jindils]

Exh*****

[@darwishazrel2002]

@@Jindils ohh yeah i know,cant access exhen for some reason

[@MetronaJ]

@@darwishazrel2002 well yeah you need an account (there are specific steps to get in)

[@dopaminecloud]

Social disease. Hope people take the threat of these practices more seriously soon.

[@mattdavis3356]

only for the weak-minded lmao

[@NguyenHoang-horizon]

yeah it's should be treated the same way as gambling

[@lionelk.y7233]

Ugh you fckin annoy me Just teach people that these are but mere cards and a line of code If you spend your life savings on it thats your fault I can never get how people can like spend over like 1K on these bad boys

[@stupididiot9336]

​@@lionelk.y7233 It's an addiction, the same way as anything else. Sounds ridiculous, but for some people gambling is a drug. I don't spend money to pull on gachas, but as someone who's played them for a while and kept up with a few communities it's hard not to see the appeal and be tempted to spend. Don't fault the player, fault the scummy business practices.

[@dopaminecloud]

@@mattdavis3356 I can tell you don't know the first thing about addiction and manipulation. You are the exact mindset they'd love for everyone to have.

[@Elilymo]

gacha ... dont let da desire sensor catch u