Idoneth Deepkin Lore | Age of Sigmar

[@connordavidson2087]

Hey! Spartacus is doing AoS lore! 8D You've been a huge help in understanding the lore of 40k and old fantasy. I'm glad to see you getting into AoS now too. And glad you're as excited as I am for Tyrion and Teclis coming! Daughters of Khaine is my first army, (and to be honest I am most eager for Malerion) but I am stoked for them pointy aelves. Love your videos with a passion and I'm super grateful for the help in understanding the lore that goes waaay back. Helps me so much and gets me eager to get into it all.

[@italianspartacus]

Yussss thank you so much man. Glad you have enjoyed everything so much. I cannot wait for the Sun Elves Hahah. I didn't buy an army for these guys BECAUSE I decided to hold out for the sun elves

[@samcook6368]

I was very unhappy with AoS when it came out, but by this point, it's the best thing that GW has ever done.

[@mogwaiman6048]

I concur.

[@hypermelon_8654]

Sam Cook i cant disagree enough

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@hypermelon_8654 meh, you have kings of war.

[@jakea3950]

@@hypermelon_8654 some people are 90% salt. Go hydrate buddy.

[@mogwaiman6048]

@worldd777 Each realm has a map though. Fantasy had one world that had poor interaction.

[@horusthagreat1802]

Idoneth deepkin are like Alantas and 40k Drukari made an bastard step child.

[@mogwaiman6048]

a beautiful step child.

[@akumaking1]

And what about the Vampire Coast? That the uncle?

[@tanisitalia1970]

@@akumaking1 more like drunk step dad

[@TheSniperGTO]

I like them because unlike the Dark Eldar, the Sea Elves aren’t evil. Yes they do terrible things, but they do it secure souls to save their children and take no pleasure in what they do. They also had nothing to do with their predicament. Unlike the Dark Eldar, who brought about the doom of their race with their excess and behavior, don’t care, continue right along in said bad behavior, and gladly raid and torture others not just to save themselves, but for pleasure.

[@raynightshade8317]

This is the race that really interests me, their monster look amazing

[@italianspartacus]

They're so cool. Low model count armies too, so very low barrier of entry

[@Titanic_Tuna]

I remember Indypride saying that AoS will become extremely good after all the harsh stuff, been waiting for this Deepkin video from you dude, I knew you wouldn't be able to resist forever.

[@Blair4456]

The latest Idoneth Novel “Court of the Blind King” was a great read imo.

[@italianspartacus]

Really?! Never read any AoS Lore. That might be my first.

[@Blair4456]

It was GW’s latest novel! Just came out. If this faction interests you, I’d totally give it a read.

[@jakea3950]

@@italianspartacus oh and "the sea taketh" is an awesome short story to get a solid feel of the eerieness you mentioned. It perfectly sets the scene of Deepkin ferocity

[@ginkiba3]

The Idoneth are the only reason why I care about AoS. After the shafting the Elves got in End Times it's a little encouraging to see a race that takes nods from all the major Elf factions in Warhammer while still being their own mess of pointy-eared smugness and angst.

[@lukebridwell5332]

So glad you are jumping into this. Really the lore has been incredible so far with what they have done in 2nd Edition. Thanks for your contribution!

[@DamosLexicon]

god damn for a moment I thought this was 2+ Tough video on my feed

[@italianspartacus]

That's high praise. They do amazing work

[@tombouric]

At first I was a bit cold towards AoS, but after Chrisps properly introduced it to me I’ve since warmed up to it. I’m definitely in favour of more AoS Lore videos if you’re up for it.

[@staalforsfh]

Super glad to welcome you to Age of Sigmar :D I was an AoS-hater like a lot of people, but the awesome new Nighthaunt faction was my gateway drug into giving it a chance. I realised at some point what GW is trying to do, and I can appreciate it much more from a different point of view. They switched from a tolkienesque fantasy world to a very Dungeons and Dragons-type setting. There really is room to create narratives yourself on a scale never possible with Warhammer Fantasy. It's not going to be for everybody, but it certainly got easy for me to love once I figured that out and got a new perspective.

[@staalforsfh]

Wait, let me ramble on: The best thing about AoS is the crazy, crazy amount of support GW gives it, even lorewise. You can turn into their social media (or, of course, 2+Tough) every couple of months and hear how the story has progressed. That's great for keeping your interest in the world alive and your wallet empty.

[@ragelion]

That's one of the things I like about it as well, "you're dudes" can fit anyone and it won't be strange to see lizardmen fighting humans or anyone else. They are also maps but the AOS setting is HUGE still.

[@callumjennings6336]

Would love to see more AoS from you. As much as I love the basic and dark medieval setting of WHFB, I've warmed past the strange mythos lore of Age of Sigmar's beginning and into the more itty gritty.

[@parkerdixon-word6295]

Sparticus: "It's a lot like Magic: The Gathering" Me: "That is not how Magic the Gathering works."

[@italianspartacus]

Spartacus: "That's okay friendo, you can teach me all about it!"

[@whiskeyjack9646]

I quite like the AoS lore. It's interesting to learn about it as it grows and evolves.

[@DaglasVegas]

the decision to make Tirion into a deity in the new world baffles me... It would be as though instead of Sigmar the main human diety was suddenly Karl Franz...the one elf truly deserving to be reincarnated as a deity is the one most venerated by all the high elves in Warhammer fantasy, the first and greatest first Phoenix King, Aenarion. he should have returned in the end time and become a deity on the level of Sigmar, Aenarion is basically the elves Sigmar.

[@timwillis2505]

2+ Tough does a great job, but I am very glad finally some one else is doing AOS lore, we all were upset about the ending of Warhammer, that being said AOS is coming into its own and is quite interesting, keep it up please

[@danielmcelwain6841]

Do an Ionrach Enclave video, the Idoneth possible relationship with Teclis and the Lumineth going forward and so forth

[@sandpirate1662]

Enjoyed the video! I had actually just been looking for some AOS lore so this vid was perfect 8D

[@diamonddynamo9611]

Nice man love the AoS lore, get right stuck in

[@majormoolah5056]

Damn Spartacus, this was fascinating! This is my first lore about this subject and I loved the idea of Elves basically being traumatized and only want to be left alone, but are forced to go out and gather souls by this mysterious condition. I hope you do more AoS lore!

[@OGdutch973]

And they teased the “pointy” Hysh elves ! The time has come

[@mogwaiman6048]

Thanks for doing this man. Been waiting for you and Sotek to start building a bridge to the Mortal Realms.

[@BlackbirdIX]

Series please

[@Esuzu]

Love this! Up for more AoS lore for sure. Very curious but hard to listen to other people as they usually have a different perspective you.

[@Santzlol]

I'm starting an Idoneth army this year, flying sharks are cool

[@blakecheboygan]

AoS lore getting better and better with time. Also gotrek lives!

[@ragelion]

If you are starting to get into into AOS read City of Secrets or Dark Harvest. They're great, trust me.

[@GecktronLP]

Great video! GW did a great job coming up with interesting factions for AoS. The 2.0 books are fleshing them out nicely. Last years Flesh Eater courts book was great in that regard.

[@Santzlol]

Oh boy, cant wait for the best faction in AOS, the flesh eater courts to have their lore video

[@Edie542]

Hell yeah the flesh eaters and pretty much all death faction have really good lore!!!

[@Fuchs320]

Thanks for doing this Its good that Age of Sigmar lore gets ever better

[@italianspartacus]

I'd like to do one in the lumineth soon!

[@StormcastMarine]

Awesome video, glad you're doing some AOS stuff

[@thatonepsycho5157]

Three things, Sparty! 1. Aelf is (or at least should, and if not the my archeology degree means I get to go Indiana Jones on someone at GW's ass) still pronounced Elf. It comes from the æ (ash) symbol of old English. Same with words like Aether. So don't worry, unless GW dropped a ball somewhere, you're pronouncing it fine. 2. Malerion apparently doesn't have anything to do with Seraphon. At least, the one time I said that some guy screamed at me that GW had said in countless interviews that was the case. Since he didn't have the common decency to cite his source and I was never able to FIND any of those countless interviews, I might be giving you wrong information. 3. Magic the Gathering doesn't have portals between worlds (normally), instead having Planeswalkers, people who can just travel from one Plane to another thanks to their Planeswalker's Spark.

[@mogwaiman6048]

Malekith fused with his black dragon and became Malerion. So it's not connected to Seraphon.

[@thatonepsycho5157]

@@mogwaiman6048 problem is that his Black Dragon was named Seraphon. Something annoying since GW also decided to rename the Lizardmen to the exact same thing.

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@thatonepsycho5157 that black dragon doesn't exist anymore so it's not really a problem. I think Lizardmen was a worse name anyway.

[@thatonepsycho5157]

@@mogwaiman6048 But you're missing the point. Because they named him Malarion, gave him wings and horns, and barely explained anything about him for a long time, people assumed he had merged with that Black Dragon.

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@thatonepsycho5157 oh i see, yeah technically it's never written that he merged. He just woke up ad a shadow and attained his current form.

[@duke_revna6404]

First race I think is intresting after the whole Age of Sigmar thing.

[@jakea3950]

They are bomb 👌. Clever design too as they can really share qualities of both high elf or dark elf.

[@cronotekk9193]

All the Death factions are worth a look too

[@barubary218]

I hope you discuss my favorite faction in AoS. That being Nighthaunt of course! I love my ghosts!

[@rabsrabble5415]

Honestly I've been warming up to these new elves after watching a ton of deep sea nature videos as of late.

[@docterzero1503]

Ahh, AoS lore, just how I like it! Can you do the Daughters of Khaine next?

[@Vaegarion]

Two years later I would still love more AoS lore especially the Idoneth haha

[@Rolandais]

Sotek does a good amount of AoS lore, tbh

[@H240909]

Elves and Aelves are pronounced the same way btw. GW just don't want to get sued.

[@Merohill]

Idoneth Deepkin are the only thing drawing me to AOS, if only they had heavy phalanx infantry in full Grecian armour.

[@italianspartacus]

I'd love that. I imagine we'll get an expansion to their roster in further editions. They really don't have much

[@nate742]

Merohill Imagine the phalanxes of the idoneth colliding against the phalanxes of the Ossiarch Bonereapers. Oh yes please 👌

[@mogwaiman6048]

They are a raiding faction, phalanx infantry doesn't match their playstyle.

[@Merohill]

@@mogwaiman6048 I get that but a faction can have more than one playstyle.

[@ScrumHunger]

I could see this happening. The range is in dire need of unmounted Akhelians and some Namarti heroes.

[@Johnnythefirst]

That first guy's armour - the one on the pink seahorse - is so dumb he has to go through every door sideways. It's like eight foot wide. He can barely hold his spear. :D

[@matthewcharles9813]

Personally as long as it's interesting or cool lore i don't care if it's age of sigmar. :) Keep up the good work and keep the passion strong lol.

[@dac314]

I look forward to a follow up army video!

[@greggs_sausageroll1608]

The quality of your videos is brilliant as ever. The lore is interesting! Just sad about the end of the old world that’s all !

[@rhettm1580]

Their is so many options they can do for the future, like a kraken model, Crabs, Kappa soldiers etc...

[@Hatchmatter]

Waiting for that malerion army book before I put away my eternity king and announce my full blown heretical migration. Appreciate the lore video!

[@Heeeynald]

Now i just want to customize an army of then in a Vampire Coast/Deep Sea Terrors style!

[@daniellmartin1993]

Check out the AoS book "Myths and Reverants" if you want a great collection of short stories, a few featuring the Idoneth Deepkin.

[@hitmanmaloe]

God I hope after total war warhammer 3 we get this

[@Destyvirago]

Please continue this series of AoS lore. I am an old school Warhammer fantasy guy at heart and have never really gotten into the AoS lore. But it seems AoS is here to stay so I feel i should get to know the setting better, and I would love to hear more from you about AoS

[@lukerothwell9824]

I was having trouble focusing reading the AOS wikipage on the Idoneth so I came here. Glad I did! Could anyone tell me the music used?

[@Warpmek]

The Gotrek audiobooks are amazing. I love how he's written to be an old neck Beard. The only problem I had with the second audiobook was the annoying Dryad.

[@GreatgoatonFire]

The Idoneth seem pretty cool, a synthesis of Druki and Asur. I do like that it seems like they have the sense to cooperate with other races to oppose Chaos and Nagash. To quote the Kingpin from Spider-Man TAS "There is no profit to be made in the destruction of the planet."

[@raynightshade8317]

"come from the mist" Fimir confirmed

[@beerasaurus]

Noah looking at morathi and a big fish- What the hell is this?!

[@kapitankapital6580]

A lot of people dismissed AoS when they saw what a shitstorm 1st edition was in, and haven't been back to what is now actually a significantly better lore.

[@kapitankapital6580]

@Zeth Wilson Yeah I also dislike Stormcast, but that's one of the advantages, you can go without encountering the Stormcast in your readings pretty well now.

[@mogwaiman6048]

@Zeth Wilson space marines are sci fi chaos warriors......

[@hildaenjoyer8862]

@Zeth Wilson Space Marines are mostly 1 dimensional characters who unconditionally worship their Emperor who built them on his own terms. Stormcast are little more than slaves, forced to fight for Sigmar who has built them as a last ditch effort to stop Chaos. Each time they are killed they are brought back to fight once more while their minds and humanity crumble more and more. They essentially are forced to suffer for eternity and the only reasons they don't turn on Sigmar is because their minds are twisted against their wills and because they know Chaos are the biggest threat. Sigmar himself is a good guy but the Stormcast are basically both his greatest tool and his greatest crime. They are far more interesting and nuanced than Marines, sure they look like Marines but Chaos Warriors look pretty close to Chaos Space Marines too.

[@hildaenjoyer8862]

Nagash is such a prick. Sigmar saved him from obscurity and gave him a entire realm to rule. Nagash rewards Sigmar by betraying him twice when Sigmar was desperately battling Chaos and is now pissed that he's having his souls stolen, despite Sigmar using the souls to build the only force capable of challenging Chaos. Maybe if Nagash had a touch of loyalty Sigmar wouldn't be driven to "stealing" his souls in order to fight off the Chaos gods.

[@NewGuy2534]

I will admit that AoS has helped the fantasy genera, and is not as rigid as Fantasy was when it comes to gameplay. What I still don’t like is that it never seemed to grow it’s own bones. Let’s really think how much of AoS lore could survive if all the Fantasy lore was taken out of it? I also miss the structure of the Old World. I liked knowing where the nations were and how they functioned within themselves and others. Now, in AoS, cities, kingdoms and nations all have the staying power of milk.

[@WlLDEHlLDE]

I really kinda enjoyed Aos lore. I think this is what AoS should focus on: unique races that feel special and cool. They are an order faction and kinda on the good team, yet need to do evil to survive. Just feels very real in a was.

[@AtaMarKat]

THIEVES! THIEVES MUST PAY! PAY FOR WHAT THEY TAKE FROM NAGASH! EVIL! EVIL LIKE SIGMAR! The boats are cool though, I kinda wanna do a conversion with one. Also, the thralls are interesting designs for foot soldiers, though I’m still not sold on “blind archers that see via magic tattoos”.

[@valerian5511]

Hell yeah! More please!

[@ALividPileofDirt]

AoS is looking to be pretty strong these days. I can't wait for more lore about Gordrakk, the Fist of Gork. From the blurbs we've had so far, he's far more of an actual character than any orc/ork characters we ever had. Ghaz is a great ork, and I always love reading about his escapades, but seeing Gordrakk actually reflect on his actions and have sober moments is very refreshing.

[@ragelion]

Gordrakk is looking to smash the gates of azyr. The thing is about AOS each alliance gets their time in the sun.

[@1YCARADOFACAO]

Those guys are the coolest thing in Sigmar. Actually, i want those guys in TW Warhammer. A Man can hope

[@GecktronLP]

A Total War: Age of Sigmar would be great! There is so much potential for interesting factions!

[@jorawarsingh2595]

more age of sigmar lore please.

[@jackiesantos2121]

I like to see video about the flesh ear Court run by a bunch of pack of ghouls

[@killidaenarrameos1216]

it took time for age of sigmar to get better, but it is slowly happening :)

[@mattgrandich3977]

I may sound like a broken record, but when AoS first came out in 2015 I was not happy with it, GW murdered Warhammer Fantasy to sell more space marines. But now I really like AoS with its growing lore and very unique factions.

[@Kain3366]

Great video

[@henrikandreason7261]

Vultures is a lot like Orm from aquaman i feel.

[@MrAirpumpkin]

"Its like wraithbone for AoS, thats a gross oversimplification but-" Nope to late! you went there, I want magic coral mecha now.

[@italianspartacus]

Hahahah NOoOOoOOOO! WE'VE GONE TOO FAR!!! I meant more about the literal trees of wraithbone in the craftworlds that house the souls of Eldar

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Do the Bone Boyz too please!

[@Der_Herzog]

So you woke up next to pizza rolls.

[@alicearnold8610]

I think the thing that turns me off is the foundational lore of AoS. Thinking of Tyrion and Teclis as Gods (despite their imagery being of them as normal elves) and things like that make it all very weird and disconnected. The individual lore is cool and all, but the foundation, I feel, is a bit of a mess at the moment. Like.... how does a chaos god even become captured? Aren't they metaphysical representations of human-like emotions and actions? I always saw the big four as more of an infinite void, using their minions and tiny fractions of themselves in order to influence the warhammer world. But with AoS it's weird. Stuff that shouldn't be defined is defined, and stuff that is defined probably shouldn't be. Even when lore like the Idoneth are undeniably cool, I just remember the background and thus can't get past it. I think the reason Fantasy's lore is better is because everything is a little more grounded.the pantheon of gods is quite varied and feels culturally grounded, there is a better defined world map, etc etc. Ah well. Good thing the Old World is coming out.

[@nate742]

Alice Arnold Slaanesh may be imprisoned, but his influence still remains. That and his daemons and worshippers still act on his behalf, with some looking for their lost god, while some greater daemons even trying to replace Slaanesh by being pretenders to his throne. Think of it like how Nurgle imprisoned Isha. Their influence doesn’t fully go away.

[@mogwaiman6048]

No, they are actual beings. Slaanesh gorged one elf souls and then hibernated. Slaanesh was imprisoned in a pocket dimension.

[@chrisps989]

Good stuff!

[@TyrannosaurusRex5027]

Do the Seraphon or the carnosaurs are gonna eat you

[@TheMastaphobia]

If they start making games about Age of Sigmar I feel like more people will start liking the lore. I honestly like Age of Sigmar, but just didnt feel like they needed to end Warhammer Fantasy to make it.

[@ragelion]

The dawn of war 1 and 2 devs are making an AOS RTS.

[@manta_man2346]

If Im honest, I enjoy the rules of the game, they are nice, simple and overall enjoyable (except the dread double turn, but that's for another discussion). But I can't get into the lore of Age of Sigmar, it's personal taste of course, but it's way too high fantasy for my taste and I can't get a sense of "place" in AoS. In fantasy I could look at a map, know where everything was clearly, know which journey a warband would take to go from, say, Axe Bite Pass to The Middle Mountains. I have a hard time with that in AoS and it's not enjoyable for me. But anyways, people can enjoy the hobby however they want. I play the new rules, but put my mind in the old world. BTW, Great channel, love your content.

[@brooksroberson9861]

idk if you will see this now spartan but do you think the deepkin will be in warhammer 3?

[@italianspartacus]

Highly unlikely brother!

[@brooksroberson9861]

@@italianspartacus yeah my thoughts are the same but i mean we did get cathey though right and to my knowledge they dont even have models so it is possible and would be amazing to see.

[@GayRage707]

aos...aos....AOS.....AOS....AOS..AOS..AOS..AOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@samfish2550]

I know 40k and want to play it but holy fuck dose this make me question if I wouldn't rather build this as a first army because fuck this was literally made for me, I've almost never seen a 40k army I just flat liked nearly the entire range, I like basically this entire model range. Also they have big turtles, all other points are invalid, best army.

[@markone6626]

I just hope the seraphons get good lore.

[@3v1l0773r]

As much as I prefer the WFB lore and find the world way more relatable rather than these interconnected magical realms I don't particularly hate it either. If anything a lot of the models look pretty damn amazing and when they're done with the Warhammer triology and it's starting to get a little long in the tooth I wouldn't mind if CA tried to tackle the AoS setting. Lots of interesting units and factions and would probably get people to look beyond "lol sigmarines" before writing the game off. Although Speaking of design... Look how they massacred my Dawi. I have to say I really don't like the design of the Kharadron Overlords with the Top Hats and the Metal-Ball Jump Packs.

[@mogwaiman6048]

People hate "fantasy space marines" but never consider that space marines are sci fi chaos warriors.

[@douglasbrosnan2081]

love the factions, just hate the setting personally :) cool vid though :)

[@acefinelli5847]

Dark eldarish

[@frankiegale5460]

What video game is this on?

[@mogwaiman6048]

tabletop war game, not a video game.

[@nickyperfitt6353]

Pointy sea elves who rid sea turtles mate 😂😂😂😂. I do like there lore for elves for AoS

[@nordicwarrior1309]

MORE LORE

[@darko-man8549]

Who are you and what have you done with Sparty?

[@italianspartacus]

Hahahahaha I'm sorry!!!!

[@darko-man8549]

@@italianspartacus meh, you make it sound interesting regardless also it's nice to know they are at least trying to expand and make it interesting

[@jakea3950]

Sad to see salty sheep still cling to the old way when the new has had tons of effort put into it. Oh wells only they are missing out.

[@darko-man8549]

@@jakea3950 are you talking about me & Zeth? because we both quite openly admitted that it is getting better......Zeth just stated he still does not like the way The End Times was carried out and so it leaves a bad stain on what came after. I also stated that it is nice to the effort that has gone into improving it? Also sheep implies you just follow blindly, so actually sheep would be more for people who just like something because GW made it rather than think about it

[@mogwaiman6048]

@Zeth Wilson Who gives a shit about the transition? It's been years, hop on the train or move on.

[@RobRazor96]

Likey Likey

[@brandonbrown1224]

More age of sigmar

[@bombyouup62]

I like the lore to most of the Age of Sigmar so far...but the whole " everything is on a different plane" thing is stupid. I hate Magic the Gathering and Planescape setting for that same reason ( i did like the lore tho for planescape).

[@mogwaiman6048]

This prevents the mortal realms from being a sandbox the way WHFB did. There is limitless narrative potential as the story moves forward.

[@cronotekk9193]

The planes are just 8 Warhammer Fantasy worlds connected by portals, the way they all interact are quite interesting

[@bombyouup62]

@@mogwaiman6048 No its just laziness.

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@bombyouup62 uh how? I would say Bretonnia and Nehekara are examples of laziness. Since they are just France and Egypt.

[@ar-aamon797]

Look how they butchered my boy Malekith😡

[@cooperread6989]

Yeeeeeessssss. Join us.

[@gergelyfiala4756]

I can not help but Aos looks like a colourful vomit to me.

[@italianspartacus]

Yaaaaa... I think that's because they're using a whole new set of artists.. If they took the same artists that they've been using for decades, I feel it'd give AoS that grungy, visceral feel that we know n love. Those same artists are doing 40k now. It's all too clean. I like the rough, high detailed, hyper realistic sketch style of the previous artists

[@nate742]

ItalianSpartacus Check out David Gallagher. He’s an old Fantasy artist and he has his own gallery of AOS art that’s he’s done in his older style.

[@JM.....]

@@italianspartacus exactly this! Everything new from 40K has been super flat colours and chonky details

[@mogwaiman6048]

I like the artwork.

[@morphic2245]

Eww age of sigmar lore? Dead to me sparty, DEAD!

[@italianspartacus]

Don't say that baby!!!

[@lonegoat81]

I like The AOS setting for a few reasons. Firstly and most importantly, i was not heavily invested into the Old World. It now feels more unique and not just another pseudo Middle Ages, WITH CHAOS. DUN- DUN-DUUUUN! Also the sculpts have been really nice.

[@lonegoat81]

@Zeth Wilson agreed the sigmarines are annoying and overused

[@mogwaiman6048]

I think it's more creative than fantasy.

[@mogwaiman6048]

@Zeth Wilson and Space Marines aren't? Chaos Warriors aren't goofy either? Cause Chaos Warriors are the OG heavy metal concept.

[@lonegoat81]

@@mogwaiman6048 to me they looked too similar to SMs and in the earlier stages of the game They had no character or anything really interesting about them. gladly that has been changed a lot and they are more unique and alive feeling.