If A Perfect Bot Entered A Tournament - A Melee TAS

[@yELoHQ]

The marth player saw how fast the bot picked fox... just looking at his hesitation to select marth in the character select screen showed his terrifying emotion... I already knew this was going to be a bloodbath.

[@107olivier]

haha thats hillarious

[@RonWolfHowl]

+Photos Still a funny contrast in the “choreography”.

[@shmurdy]

+daxtart well duh every TAS is made by the player, it's not like people actually code an AI that play's TAS level melee. it's just that the whole concept of the video (it's in the title man) is if a perfect bot entered a melee tournament.

[@Alienrun]

OMG this comment is genious! :D

[@tipsybun]

As a great man said, "NOT. EVEN. ONCE!"

[@jpegpdfmp3]

*Fox picked and name tag picked at sonic speed* ... ... "marth."

[@Youngman141]

Fox wasn't just picked, he was randomed at light speed

[@MegAmi24]

Lol

[@jmanscomment5321]

Aj Weber 😂

[@ventip2]

it went Mario Jigglypuff Ganondorf Link then Fox go to 0.25 and hold space

[@KajillionX]

I WAS WONDERING WHY THE ANNOUNCER SAID "MARIOOOOOO"

[@JaegerEXP]

The human player taking longer to do things just kills me.

[@slan9860]

[In an instant, picks fox and types "20xx in an extremely rapid and quick fashion] [Slowly and hesitantly picks Marth]

[@jac4026]

I'd like to point out he also picked Fox through randoming.

[@someguy2350]

+Jac Profile picture link?

[@MegAmi24]

+Jac How do you random?

[@jac4026]

MegaSuperab Bottom left/right corner

[@lucariog7549]

the beginning perfect bot: scans the roster, chooses fox, 20XX, in less than 2 seconds the player: well... um... ima pick marth, done

[@bagfaceman1656]

Perfect bot actually randoms until fox shows up

[@thecybersilver]

lol, i was thinking the same thing

[@youfailful]

Lucario G7

[@lucariog7549]

?

[@codeisntreal]

Its not a bot

[@VenomClaus]

The beginning is what made this.

[@IgnoredVampire]

Surviva-MARIOJIGOXUFF blip blipblipbliblip Survival MARTH

[@kablooey60]

Should've put: "Unplug your controller dog, unplug your controller!"

[@AgateRF]

"Forfeit, my nigga!"

[@kablooey60]

AgateRF HE FORFEITS! HE FORFEITS!

[@AgateRF]

+Jack Registeel FOX GAVE THIS NIGGA THE CORPORATION!

[@supaboy339]

you shouldn't be saying the n word

[@dexstrat9229]

+julius alexander you shouldn't care

[@throwawayaccount9141]

I love that fucking delay at the start "P-Please be gentle TAS"

[@PracticalTAS]

Have you ever watched this video in slow motion? It gets even better at 1/4 speed.

[@olivermisbach2454]

+Practical TAS 2: Melee Creations But then it just becomes Brawl.

[@AntonErgo]

I did that, and saw HBox's puff in the middle of the random character selection. All about the little details.

[@PracticalTAS]

Antoine Guillen haha, I can't manipulate the RNG to deliberately make that happen, but I wasn't going to get rid of it once it showed up.

[@InumiDarkness]

I can't

[@Sam-hz6cc]

Practical TAS 2: Melee Creations you should do tas bot vs tas bot

[@xillia3988]

I love how to bot does everything like in 2 seconds and the marth player is like "Uhh..." *Slowly chooses marth*

[@1krubby]

The character select screen and how intimidated the Marth player was on it made this video

[@vbxomni5380]

That bot, was so ready to gooo. MonkaS

[@onlynovus42069]

Player: "uhh I guess I'll just play, Marth?"

[@jt2aw15]

MISHAWN COMPREE

[@KiBelmont]

FIIIRYUUU

[@KiBelmont]

don't forget, GWAAAAHHHHH

[@Ezwari0r]

TUUYAAAA

[@DylanKeywizRad]

+Noah Boardman. NYEH! Atah! Atah! WAAAGH

[@Gamma0_0]

+DylanKeywizRad WAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃ⋅ ⋅ ⋅ GAME!

[@anthonysalazar1820]

LOL he chooses the character through randoming really fast

[@jimmygrundy5081]

+Anthony Salazar hahhahahhahahha just realized this

[@PracticalTAS]

+Hot Dogg It's not faster, it's cooler.

[@user.mlxa_xi]

+Anthony Salazar I just fucking choked

[@katshuma]

+Anthony Salazar That is what got me :D

[@thatoneguy9582]

Anthony Salazar um

[@kwok7365]

lol marth in the beginning is like "... well shit."

[@drel_underheaven908]

Casualist PC lmfao wonded when somebody would say that

[@ZVAARI]

actual footage of me at Dreamhack

[@jackmoore421]

you could improve a bit on your Marth

[@melonboy6073]

But that Yoshi combo though, you need to enter more tournaments.

[@Cofi_SL]

+Jack Moore rekt

[@SatisfactoryBro]

+Jack Moore Lmao, savage.

[@Explvcit]

+Jack Moore W

[@lguy8476]

"A skilled Roy can beat any Fox"

[@dominickperez2952]

L Guy a skilled Marth can beat any TAS Fox

[@torchite0725]

A skilled Mewtwo can beat any fox

[@E-Brightvoid]

Zain vs Smashbot. The year is 20XX.

[@LolzSquid]

the marth made very human choices. 10/10 for realism

[@44tharia46]

... merth

[@ganondorfdragmire7886]

. .. . marf

[@44tharia46]

... kirbee

[@Ramen-ms9xn]

Kirby is not picked by a human

[@stalinjosefstalin480]

Except for maybe getting combo’d on that last stock, the combo wasn’t true and could’ve been escaped with SDI.

[@johnsother2440]

And that's how I went 0-2 in bracket.

[@kl5659]

shouldve made marth ragequit towards the end

[@mizterman6446]

+Kaho Liang mid-> waveshine

[@PracticalTAS]

+Kaho Liang But what if pause is off because it's a tournament match?

[@thesaucypickle9866]

+PTAS Melee make hims sd

[@stormcutter59]

This isn't a fair analysis. We should have at least seen the next two matches. What if that Marth player meditated and had a comeback?

[@PracticalTAS]

+Joseph Franc He tried to counterpick to FD and the first stock of the second match was a frame-for-frame repeat of this one. To spare himself the shame, he forfeited then and there.

[@timothylove9724]

I don't think this Marty can pull a Hungrybox

[@FullMoonUmbreon]

What kind of black magic was that reverse walljump.

[@justarandommimikyu8474]

I like how the player visibly loses faith in winning after seeing the bot pick its character and tag.

[@willscharnagl6909]

Looks more like if Hax$ actually Entered A Tournament

[@PokemonHeroTristan]

+Will Scharnagl Nah fam. He's using lasers. It's def not Hax.

[@alexben04]

+Will Scharnagl it happened

[@PluckyStar]

Anybody else hear "Pringles" at the start when the TAS is selecting a character? XD

[@sarafarrero6690]

Munkeeman I do

[@vvookeaver]

Munkeeman I heard play ball

[@exentrixx7318]

I hear "play ball!"

[@harryvpn1462]

Play ball

[@JSins_]

“Mario!”

[@Bowserslave]

But then the bot entered his first tournament and got Wobble'd in Pools not making it out

[@ganon6207]

Its actually hard to wobble someone who can dodge it so wobbling a TAS Bot would be impossible.

[@servantofcygnus]

+Mr.Tas You can mash out of wobbles if they're not absolutely perfect, and even then you can mash out if you're early. Nobody could ever wobble a TAS

[@PracticalTAS]

That's not true. If you have the wobble set up properly, it's impossible to break out in TAS because you never leave stun from either the pummel or the ftilt.

[@thepotato513]

This is what would happen if Borp actually decided to start using his tech skill

[@Himadpeoples]

accurate

[@gamecubeguy214]

In Smash 5, we need to have an unbeatable CPU level like this.

[@ppoverheat6223]

There won't be a smash 5, from what I heard

[@Alienrun]

He said the same thing for Brawl...and smash 4...and now he's even giving hints that a smash 5 is a posibility... I'm not gonna push anyone's luck here, but based on past experience, there's a good chance we'll get a smash 5! Even if its not by sakurai XD

[@ppoverheat6223]

Alienrun Yeah I guess it could always happen.. Though, shouldn't the developement process have already started if a new one is coming out? Unless I'm not up to date, I didn't hear anything about it?

[@Alienrun]

Hi! ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ Brawl wasn't started till at least 2005. Smash 4 wasn't started till at least 2012. (These years aren't exact...they are based on memory, I could be off by a year or 2) So what on earth makes you think Smash 5 is gonna be in development for the "Wii U 1.5" ?! If your refering to the announcement of a smash launch title, its most likely going to just a port of Smash 4...It would be unrealistic for it to be anything else!

[@ppoverheat6223]

Alienrun What? The fuck is wiiU 1.5 haha Anyways, I guess time will tell (or Sakurai :P)

[@Jay-fl5yr]

Marth was so traumatized by this that he got massively nerfed in SSB4.

[@randyjim1871]

+Jay Scott lol

[@ogot344]

Jay The Villager Marth is top ten in smash 4

[@anthonybrown9852]

Jay The Villager he was rebuffed lmao

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Rip

[@MH_Zard]

sooo. what happens if you put two perfect bots against each other?? *strokes chin in thought* 8 minute matches at 0 percent? sudden death erryday?

[@twistedvtuber9894]

port priority takes effect

[@sienrid]

+NovaBlazerZX There are a lot of these types of videos out there, though they're mostly Project M turbo mode

[@Slashx92]

+NovaBlazerZX see 20XX: The Ultimate Showdown - Fox vs. Fox (TAS)

[@ceppy3431]

+HyperPhoenix09 well yeah but if they're both perfect and they're playing to win, no one is gonna get hit, those videos are for entertainment purposes

[@sienrid]

ceppy3 Port priority, probably

[@Darksilver740]

I would have died laughing if the marth rage quit during the waveshining at the end

[@hazy2kki]

blipblipblipblipblipblipblipblipblipblipblipblipblip MISHON COMPREE

[@Eveca3D]

That Walljump at 0:56 is insane.

[@Fragems69]

I would LOVE to know the inputs for that because it looks swaggy af

[@gamerfreak5665]

It is pointless... you cannot escape the coming of 20XX...

[@ErikSeastead]

I really love all the little bits of humor in this video! Nice job - have a sub :)

[@PracticalTAS]

+Erik Seastead Thank you!

[@hedwigssuite5656]

I especially like how when the bot was randomly choosing its character in the first few frames of the video, it gets jigglypuff, switches to the green bandanna costume, and THEN selects another character.

[@willsmiff3009]

Now have it play Dark Souls.

[@Lightningsnowstorm]

Was there literally nothing Marth could've done to avoid the situation?

[@PracticalTAS]

Which situation? The end? Marth can actually SDI away the middle shine so Fox can't get behind him on the next shine. If Fox decides to shine again anyway, Marth gets hit offstage and can grab ledge.

[@vulcanprincess1584]

+PTAS Melee is the combo at :38 escapable?

[@PracticalTAS]

Practically every combo in Melee is escapable in some way. That combo had really tight timings and good but not optimal DI from Marth - better DI and SDI would have gotten him out of it. In particular, I had Marth DI the first bair up and in, as a decent player would do to avoid going too far offstage. However, this meant that Fox could edge cancel the bair, double jump, and hit Marth with another bair. No human player would be able to pull that off, so it's partially a matter of the Fox hitting the perfect move at perfect timings and partially Marth being human that the combo worked the way it did.

[@vulcanprincess1584]

PTAS Melee Oh. That makes sense. Melee is so frustrating yet unique and fun because of the escapability. Well humans can't learn but maybe a vulcan can ;)

[@japanrocksgousa]

unplug your controller dog

[@TerminalLanceOfficial]

0:25 that disgusting shine

[@kirjian]

this isn't real. the marth player took a few seconds to choose his character but irl my opponents are never on time.

[@saint1333]

kirjian the marth is a human. The fox is the bot.

[@FusionComet]

kirjian Its all TAS

[@HappyBeeGaming]

It's a joke.

[@Shady_Fungus]

::throws controller:: I WANT A REMATCH!!

[@truepixelgamer8779]

+Shady Fungus Do you? That's the question.

[@SinisterPixel]

I'm not too big on competitive Melee but the thought of seeing someone play to even 90% of this standard really excites me. I can imagine a nobody in the Melee scene showing up to a high level tournament with the Melee gods and just JVing one of them out of nowhere.

[@crazye639]

What if 2 perfect bots fought each other?

[@ThatOneAwkGuy]

The universe would explode, obviously.

[@sharpfang]

Nah, usually these things are down to "the one with inputs processed first (within a frame) wins", unless there are random factors within the game, where the lucky one wins. But usually it gets awfully repetitive.

[@PracticalTAS]

Sometimes that's how it works, but often things are processed simultaneously (ie hitboxes coming out on the same frame will clank if they connect). 2 perfect bots would probably not be very viewer friendly.

[@gravity8120]

How it works? The winner is decided by controller port priority. Such is the nature of 20XX.

[@bagfaceman1656]

Search for the video "what will 20xx look like"

[@ilikepenguinsdawg]

Even a bot mains fox

[@Megatronmerling]

how newcomers feel

[@LukeMM95]

Why would a bot waveshine and multishine after taking a stock?

[@PracticalTAS]

+LukeMM95 Because it knows that will agitate its opponent, getting them to attack recklessly and leaving them open for a counterattack.

[@FigyNewton]

+LukeMM95 It's the taunt button

[@sneegsnag]

+LukeMM95 Establish dominance

[@sethjunelee]

+LukeMM95 its actually just hax$ playing

[@Temporelucis]

+LukeMM95 dominance

[@Kingsbeak]

The sheer confidence of the fox choosing FD against Marth is overwhelming

[@classyassmothafucka8890]

I'd like to see a melee tournament where every player created their own AI to battle other AI's I don't have the brains to participate, but I would 100% watch

[@abominationdesolation8322]

Would probably involved a lot of standing around doing nothing because no side will open themselves up to a clean hit. A Team scenario might work however since two characters laying down pressure on one might create unavoidable openings.

[@Guilmon35249vr]

Meet The level 20XX CPU

[@TRedDoc]

Craziest fox amibo I've seen

[@guidoc5772]

dude the second stock is so funny. the lasers from ledge before the upsmash are hilarious

[@tipsybun]

As jontron said, "NOT. EVEN. ONCE."

[@limitless_j]

*chooses character and types name at god speed* *looks at you* Omae wa moe shinderu

[@jenbooob]

When you take all the melee gods and multiply their powers at an exponential rate

[@latinobacon]

So that walljump is possible? at 56 secs?

[@PracticalTAS]

Yes, but it requires you to slide up the left wall to grab the left edge, get up normally, do a frame perfect full hop laser, have precise aerial control to touch the right ledge just as the laser animation ends, and be frame perfect on your walljump. Sliding up the left wall stores your walljump as going to the left, and every other action prevents the direction from being erased or overwritten until you active the walljump in the "wrong" direction. For more info, I recommend googling "reverse wall jump" and reading the reddit/smashboards threads on the topic.

[@latinobacon]

Thanksssss

[@funnyaf]

doraki wall jump

[@katshuma]

What even

[@xXROTATORXx]

A reverse wall jump is not a doraki wall jump

[@LimitBlade617]

Perfect Bot? That's a weird way to refer to M2K in his prime.

[@danielspahn3891]

No that's a perfect way to describe m2k

[@Tadiken]

TIL it's faster to frame perfect random a character in the second row up than to just put the token on it.

[@takemetoyonk]

The off-screen laser shots are what terrified me

[@Talz622]

*distant "deeeestruuuuuuuction"*

[@kennethzheng3735]

I love this so much. The real guy just gawking at how fast the CPU did that and just like, "Uhhhhhh.... Oh sh!t I'm in trouble"

[@doofus0402]

To the OP of this video, most of us got here because your video showed up in our recommended box on KZbin.

[@PracticalTAS]

+Chris Phu That explains it. Thank you!

[@datdamnmegabusta5604]

My God...it must be stopped before it wavedashes it's way out of this game, and takes the fight to us! And this thing is armed...it's... *TOOL ASSISTED!*

[@mitrimind1027]

Doesn't even matter if they pick fox. The bot could play as pichu and still be untouchable.

[@Prep-hec]

I heard the Marth player threw his controller at Nairo afterwards and blamed Smash 4 for his sins.

[@fatguy338]

I think the title should actually be, "Marth regrets discovering time travel."

[@LazyLee]

Oh, it's Armada.

[@baconlabs]

0:48 All those crazy moves, and Fox chose to edge-hog for one of his KOs.

[@destinyphongmany5706]

M2k seriously needs to fight a Perfect Bot. M2k has fought cpus like Batman when he was young, he knew the frame data, execution, and blandness of a cpu.

[@GaryOaksmash]

glad to see a TAS that doesn't use a DI-less punching bag.

[@SuperDboy4]

00:00 You already know your fucked when somebody picks his tag like that

[@perkypears]

Look really closely as it picks Fox. it clicked on various other characters too.....

[@jaccabana]

lol after the bot chose fox the other player looked terrified when he chose marth. It was almost like he knew he was going to get slaughtered

[@brianlindner1866]

i was honestly kinda waiting for the marth to LRAS during that waveshine sequence

[@treywaka2444]

What if Marth was a perfect bot also?

[@Aether_Aurora]

That fair into JC shine turnaround into bair into edge-canceled bair *FLEX*

[@patrickseelye1485]

This is how the game feels as a casual coming from Ultimate and trying to use Slippi

[@nicocchi]

A TAS that doesn't have a couple of superhuman players or a CPU getting rekt, instead a second player supposed to act like a real player. Congrats for the execution.

[@Solrex_the_Sun_King]

This video should be renamed, "If Chuck Norris played Melee."

[@adamboy7777]

It's just like every time I play smash at a friend's house... Except I run away more.

[@Bloothehedgehog]

I love how player 1 is like uh, I'll pick marth I suppose

[@bobbygaff30]

as lucky would say WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[@sarah-nr6uy]

the best part of this is that, in theory, this is possible in the hands of a real person

[@Jotari]

Is there a Bowser perfect bot? I'd find it more interesting to see the worst character played perfectly and how people deal with that.

[@ADoodGuy]

TAS went random and got to Fox and chose his name in 2 seconds. Human was just like: Um.. okay then, I'll just pick... Marth...

[@sh0shin]

I was hoping the waveshine combo would make an appearance :D

[@traviskoser883]

Would spamming Fox's laser still break this bot? Computers just shield until the shield breaks when they get Fox spammed.

[@eag23]

0:58 the shines are in sync with the music

[@27toten]

I've never been more happy to be so upset by something.

[@sacthequeen4295]

The waveshines on the last stock... Might just be the sexiest thing I've ever seen.

[@myssledissle]

The bot selected Fox so fast by going through random very fast. Mario,JigglyPuff, Hbox Alt JigglyPuff, Gannondorf, Link, Fox.

[@neroserda554]

Thank you for existing.

[@adammalkovich187]

Over half a million views is worth it for player who's actually trying to win against this Fox bot.

[@Rekka7773]

And this is why if I ever had super powers I would want super human reaction time.

[@favioferreira8921]

You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.

[@vivienjoly7617]

Now we need to see a TAS bowser to see if he can win a tournament

[@doubleclutchdualies6570]

It's crazy to think people get excited for this.

[@TheTheThe_]

Shit, how did he know I was going to ask if it was able to be SDI'd... This man is a god

[@theunderdog3334]

See, he should have just executed the perfect counter-combo. Start->Quit.

[@yotom6513]

Man that would be crazy if this is what a level 20 cpu plays like I havent went beyond casual play so I have no idea what the power level for that gameplay would be.

[@TipZfox]

What happened at 0:58... a reverse walljump ?!?!?

[@PracticalTAS]

+Erik Jue Yes it is! Google "reverse walljump" and you'll find some info on it on reddit and smashboards.

[@tanggsyy4676]

That double laser > Up smash was so damn fast omg