If aliens use warp drives, how to detect it | Adam Frank and Lex Fridman

[@LexClips]

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[@joecaves6235]

Warp signature would be the same as gravitational lensing. A warp drive would compress incoming space and expand outgoing space. Warp 1 :1 would be faster than light but would be more like a gravitational wave. Warp 1:2 , 1:3, ... would be larger and larger gravitational lenses.

[@donsmith717]

This one was really a lot of fun. The two of you are a nice compliment. I could listen to this for days.

[@simkoning4648]

Alcubierre is pronounced Al-ku-bee-air, not a-ku-brey.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

I know a few humans that are using a warped something else, and it might be driving them off a metaphorical cliff.

[@mikitz]

There is a good possibility that if we sent a rocket to the nearest star system now, it would not make it there before some other spacecraft we sent later on would.

[@DeltaDanner]

There was a mission in Star Field about something like this happening and I thought it would make an interesting stand alone series. A generation ship sent hundreds of years ago finally reaches its destination… to find the planet has already been established by people with better engines that outpaced the generation ship.

[@quantumspark343]

superintelligence will give us warp drives after studying UAPs and retro engineering the physics out of them

[@sc0ttishnutj0b75]

That’s like saying those spear chucking incestoids in the North Sentinel Islands can build helicopters after studying them from afar or Man’O’War naval ships if they seen them

[@jesuschrist-alphaomega]

They are working on it

[@Art-is-craft]

What if the technology is all human not UAP. For all we know secret material sciences could be 200 years ahead of the best public engineering. Those bits of craft could be old technology making it into the public.

[@jonmichaelgalindo]

When people tell stories about UFOs they don't suggest stuff like warp drives. They say it's stuff like dimensional travel and technology with consciousness built into it. Stories of "shared awareness" with a craft.

[@minkowski4d]

that's why it's horse shirt 🙂

[@thresher455]

​@minkowski4d The reason for that is they look at it as "What if other lifeforms don't follow our same laws of physics." I've always called it the "dreamer effect"

[@minkowski4d]

@@thresher455 it’s just talk of undereducated or/and believers. There’s no difference Erwerb these people and those who believe in angels and demons. There’s tons of scientific literature out there of how colonizing space would look like. Problem: it’s boring compared to alien space ship flying in one’s backyard…..

[@fullyfb3847]

​@minkowski4d A person allowing for the possibility of things beyond our understanding doesn't make them uneducated or stupid. I mean... they could be, but they could just have a more flexible and/or creative mind. There is a pattern where the most intelligent people at any given point in time think they have it figured out until something comes along that blows some aspect of their perspectives out of the water. It always sounds crazy and/or stupid to them, so they dismiss and hide behind the intellectual barriers that fuel their egos. It feels great regarding yourself as the correct one, but hidden truths hide behind egos. Personally, I think we are arrogant and overconfident in our understanding of reality. I think time will reveal that I'm correct in that assessment.

[@subboid]

@@minkowski4dplease don’t dismiss anyone’s intelligence when you think physics is solved in 2024

[@RBLK89]

Some science of space is hard to believe, because we doing everything bases on physics we understand, but for all we know beyond even our galaxy physics are completely different, or molecule composition etc, " aliens " could be made of substances we don't even understand or know about

[@ExpansionPak64]

(LISA) is a planned space probe to detect and accurately measure gravitational waves. "It" would have to traverse through or very near LISA for it to be detected, I suspect. Great series here! Thank you

[@ryankc6623]

so he says finding the warp drive we need will be a physics probably and not an engineering problem. but what if we need to have space manufacturing or mining to have the means to solve that physics problem? so we have to engineer our way to outer space with what we have now, and then physics our way to warp drive once we're already in outer space.

[@Art-is-craft]

That engineering needs theory and proof which is science.

[@Alexadria205]

1:50 I lose A LOT of respect for any scientist who complains about the "exotic matter" required for warp drive. It is extremely naive and pessimistic to believe we would never solve that problem. Its a total lack of imagination which to me equates to a total lack of intelligence. Just recently some Japanese scientists managed to discover/create negative energy in a lab in a real experiment! And there have been steady advancements to warp drive designs that keep lowering the total energy required. WE WILL SOLVE THE WARP DRIVE PROBLEM, GUARANTEED. Human ingenuity is just too good. 100 years ago they said we would never get to the moon. 100 years before that they said we would never fly. See the trend here?

[@appsenence9244]

When you say "we" I assume you mean other people than you. xD go get a theoretical physics degree before you talk about "exotic matter"

[@donsmith717]

Your enthusiasm and optimism is motivating. But your tolerance for those who do not share it is a bit of a shame. With your positive attitude, you'll most likely become more tolerant. Now, onward!

[@nevster7437]

these clips are so fire, im spoiling the full episode release lol

[@anthonypena4447]

Negative matter does exist with in exotic materials such as strange Quarks and element 115 which is Moscovium 290. these exotic materials have the capability of negative energy density.

[@Stoned_apeTheory22]

Shout to Assassin's creed!

[@bryce56]

Yeah i actually came to say this lol, one of the best game series of all time

[@godsdozer]

This reminds me of the bigfoot documentaries. They just need to blur the cameras a bit during the interview.

[@A3Kr0n]

If aliens used interdimensional phase shift travel, how to detect it?

[@mitchmahoney5586]

Set your phaser to stun.

[@sc0ttishnutj0b75]

Doesn’t exist in reality (our understanding of it anyway as WE made it up in fictional sci-fi)

[@jessewallace12able]

He’s the best guest you’ve ever had.

[@dain6492]

A caveman sometime in the past. "Hey i cant even think of a way for us to fly in the sky" this is what i heard

[@CrackHead330]

Why don't you just interview Ashton Forbes?

[@CyrusRamsey-d1w]

They're probably not manipulating gravity. An "Anti gravitational field" would have to be as strong as the Earths gravitational field, it would be destructive to the surface of Earth and anything on it as it moved.

[@miken7629]

We live in warped space, Earth warps space and gravity is space pushing us towards Earth, we are got going FTL. A warp drive would warp space in one direction and space would be pushing the vehicle but that wouldn't be FTL either. If you could warp space equal to mass of Earth then space would push us @ 1G acceleration, so a warp drive would be useful but wouldn't be FTL.

[@popesk.k1254]

It is quite fantasizing, we are talking about aliens and alien technology where we haven't encountered any or found any in the observable universe. We are better than verbal aliens

[@danielgreensides8463]

You're a verbal alien, bud. 😄

[@blech71]

I always wondered and I might be wrong but I thought all of our physics as we know it is based off one temporal dimension meaning time is time. What happens to our physics of that isn’t the case or what happens if say the rules of physics is locked for us due to limitations of our perceptions of that single time line but others without or different limitations might have a different rule book to the same physics that we encounter?

[@BrianPaine82]

Descendant by seeing the gravitational lensing streaking through space. I bet gravitational waves will be produced also. So that's my two way to see them.

[@vonbleak101]

We dont need faster than light travel to travel to the stars - Even if we get to 20% the speed of light that would still allow travel to nearby stars even if it still took several years...

[@Art-is-craft]

Accelerating at just 1 G could get a craft to 50% the speed of light while it could go higher we can at least assume that speed. The problem is enough energy to attain a constant 1g is the issue. That technology would allow mankind to master the solar system and venture outside it.

[@larryhoover789]

I hope this technology is put into practice we need another planet

[@Art-is-craft]

Before we get anywhere near the engineering we will need to master our own solar system. Which means having technology that would allow us to travel in weeks rather than decades.

[@nicolesi2201]

His mispronunciation of "Alcubierre" is really bugging me.

[@Art-is-craft]

Genetic engineering and cybernetics will allow long periods of travel. Human lifespan in such technology could be in hundreds of years. Right now humans can tolerate 1g of acceleration but such technology could allow 10g on humans.

[@SG-dg6oi]

Great.... Technology has plateaued at Microsoft Windows!

[@tonynagy2042]

I think warp drives are just sci-fi talk coming from us. I think a Neutron drive of some sort could be possible. Don't forget that time slows down the faster you go, and any type of collision would be disastrous. It could be that they have moved on into a higher dimension already too?

[@love_in_an_echo_chamber]

What are all the light anomalies people have seen this week around the drones and plasma balls?

[@jonmichaelgalindo]

Most of them are explainable. The question is whether *all* of them are. And I have no idea. Just wanted to write something.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

a mix of misidentified manmade objects and tiktok hoaxes.

[@daveyboytellem]

Professional photographers have already said it's the fault of the camera sensors. I watched someone zoom in to a planet and it looked the same as someone zooming into a drone

[@whiteha5105]

If aliens use warp drives, how to detect it? - So question is open.

[@ronniebauman28]

I never got the title to altered carbon until now. I feel dumb I never picked up on that. Lol

[@peoplez129]

If you woke up in a different body with the same memories, you would only be the same person for a very short time. That's because the fundamental nature of consciousness and our individual personalities are based on our original biology, from brain structures and physical differences in the brain. Just like if you woke up an AI for the first time, based on a persons memories, it would be like them for a very short period of time before all the differences add up and fundamentally change how that mind works, based on its new capabilities and experiences. So even if they could recreate all the same neural pathways, even the differences in certain parts of the brain matter, would cause things like emotional differences. Imagine for example, your centers involving processing emotions were different in size....you might have stronger or weaker emotions, which would completely color your entire personality. Or in other words, whoever you were to try to transport to another planet, would not really be that person for long, without their original biology down to every precise detail.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

What happens when an object travelling faster than light hits some space dust or a little asteroid in the way?! I don't believe we can survive going that fast.

[@Art-is-craft]

A type of repulsion system could be used or the dust just burns up and the energy is absorbed or some other type of exotic concepts is used.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@Art-is-craft at that speed I believe there's no solution to hitting stuff. It's just too fast.

[@Art-is-craft]

@@comfortablynumb9342 If those types of speeds are achieved some form of electrostatic process could repel particles.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@Art-is-craft I doubt it but maybe

[@Art-is-craft]

@@comfortablynumb9342 The type of engineering that creates those speeds will be very exotic. It could involve a single molecule thick skin around the craft that expands to create an electrostatic layer between the skin and craft that pushes particles through a pathway over the craft and out the back or it could absorb the particles and break them down into basic elements.

[@gnarrrrrrrrrrrr]

FRB. we're already detecting them.

[@KalashKat]

Our most modern fighter jets have radar so sophisticated it can detect alien warp signatures.

[@chrisdaly9863]

Lex, it's not all fictional. Ashton Forbes can explain it to you.

[@MatthewGuccioni]

Huh .interesting that he chose this topic

[@SG-dg6oi]

Ok so where is everyone

[@FictionHubZA]

Go look for them.

[@gaul849]

I believe the most technical thing we crated is the cpu having it shrink down to transistors to atoms in 50 years is an achievement. But actually going on our own in space travel would not be wise or suicidal to the crew. But who would care what I think though.

[@VulpeculaOdin]

Longitudinal wave charge compression

[@bobbyj11080]

Exotic matter definitely exist

[@JimBatzer]

Maybe a huge spoiler alert?

[@RandomnessTube.]

Imagine showing a viking a bowing 747 the same principle applies however space travel is much far-fetched, and it could take 1000 years to figure out how to travel long distances in space.

[@sonliving]

This is like listening to bigfoot hunter that may have spotted something real 👽 sounds a little balonial..

[@bsjeffrey]

just look for the enterprise in the sky.

[@pandoraeeris7860]

The abracadabra drice.

[@Elsanta666]

What will happened to the ppl living in that warped space?

[@archbunker7]

What if second become obsolete and minute or hour becomes new second

[@BVLVI]

You're asking the wrong question. How can they break the sound barrier and go a hundred thousand miles an hour in our atmosphere with no drag and no Sonic boom. I think the answer is gravitational lensing. Gravity is pushing matter away from it before it's acted upon. So it's slipping. Why would a dinner plate travel faster on its face then on horizontally on its side. Because it needs to make a larger gravitational lensing effect. So the gravity drive mechanism makes a plate into what a spinning top looks like.. I don't think it's moving matter out of the way at all. Whatever is inside of the gravity well is like it's own planet curving spacetime rolling over the matter, not ghrough it. Gtg kids

[@sam-nw3zl]

Warp drive sounds like a great idea until a tiny bit of space debris hits the ship

[@buddypage11]

The warp bubble maintains a static area within that is unaffected by normal space and diverts everything around the outer edges. While in warp there is no chance of hitting anything. The vulnerability arises at the point of dropping back to normal space, which can be planned for since it is a known problem.

[@tyharris9994]

That's why you keep your shields up.

[@ToMbA_La_BoMbA]

​@@buddypage11What about the Black Hole?

[@IvanusPrime]

I always thought warp makes you travel in some sort of different dimension of space where you can't interact with physical objects until you exit the warp

[@peterswanson3446]

Based on current physics... which are pretty sharp. We will never go the speed of light, or multiple warps past light speed. We will likely only go up to 10% the speed of light at best, ever. Hopefully I'm wrong...

[@hmdshokri]

it's 2024 and yet still we are: STAB STAB STAB

[@FictionHubZA]

More like blast, blast blast. The 🔪 🗡 stuff only happens among low level conflicts and clashes.

[@alex79suited]

Field manipulation is key. If you don't have one, you don't go anywhere. Peace ✌️ 😎.

[@TheOldOak-2023ad]

Anything you can think of is possible, or you wouldn't be able to think of it. You have the mind of a god and the body of a mortal.

[@charlesblithfield6182]

I totally agree the brain is not conscious on its own. Brains evolved with bodies. Consciousness is a system and your gut is as important as your cerebral matter. It seems silly to think of consciousness as a brain in a vat.

[@2000freefuel]

Let's not discount long-distance teleportation of matter using preshared entangled photons.

[@crunchfishgames8245]

So these nerds come up with all kinds of weird ideas they can't do, prove, touch, or see, but religious people are nuts...

[@FictionHubZA]

The difference is one is only limited by understanding of the laws of nature.

[@Jugokazooie]

Location is a variable

[@Jugokazooie]

Figure out the vibration of points in space time and vibrate to those points to just be in those points

[@koko.997]

Hi

[@FictionHubZA]

Hello

[@koko.997]

@ hello

[@JMRxYM]

This guy is skeptical of faster than light travel but ZPE and cold fusion plasma don’t violate any laws of physics. If you have an expansion of space behind you and a compression of space in front of you, you won’t hit any objects because you aren’t in the “normal physical” world at that point. You are literally moving the universe at your whim. It takes insane amounts of negative energy but look into Ashton Forbes and the MH370 orbs

[@MrDBcooper77]

Quit acting like you have any idea how alien physics work…😂

[@TravisBrady-wn8fr]

Aliens listen to jazz music from the 30's. Just listen for it. EBEN4

[@williamdavis9562]

Still waiting for Lex to do a podcast about the genocide in Gaza. Perhaps have Jeffrey Sachs on?

[@quidproquo3933]

distorting space ? more talk of dividing by zero

[@jesuschrist-alphaomega]

Correction. You say it doesn't exist. Not true. We just haven't found it yet

[@V___31373]

*ERA PROPRIO COSI.. *..!... POI, UN GRANDE BOATO.. È POI TUTTO IL RESTO..

[@andrewspringer3565]

Watched this guy for a few of your clips. He hasn't said anything a Five year old could say.

[@randomlegend631]

Huh?

[@ethandangberg1181]

@@randomlegend631He said, “Watched this guy for a few of your clips. He hasn’t said anything a Five year old could say.”

[@TheTeddyZerg]

​@randomlegend631 Think they are suggesting he cant speak in simple terms

[@MikeC-nu7ty]

@@ethandangberg1181 point is it makes no sense. i mean it does make sense. but if he actually intended it to be written the way he wrote it.. then why? i'm assuming he meant to say "he hasn't said anything a five year old couldn't say". either way the guy is an idiot that capitalizes Five and can't form a simple sentence to get his simple point across.

[@mmiaxx2002]

Que? Are you mad?

[@Helena_Mendoza]

So many said we would never fly and we've achieved space travel. This guys outdated already.

[@davidruffin473]

Guys just likes hearing himself talk. Every clip a bunch of imagination

[@biggdaddydog5280]

frogs, turtles freeze