If Allah Creates Actions, How're Criminals Guilty? Ashari Aqida Answers

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@SafinaSociety
@SafinaSociety 6 ай бұрын
Watch full episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpian52dYtWUf7c Study Islam online: www.arkview.org
@LukeMyth
@LukeMyth 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 6 ай бұрын
It a good thing we have someone from the Asarii Sunni sect to speak up, seriously Alazhar should start working hard on combating the prevalence of the Salafi Wahabi way with Ibn Taymiya as the sole scholar and resource of Islam. It's very damaging. I don't know why more Asariis are not speaking.
@RizeDaily
@RizeDaily 6 ай бұрын
great job shaykh!
@AnwarAhmed-fb5ex
@AnwarAhmed-fb5ex 6 ай бұрын
Allah has given man intrinsically free will. Man wills Allah creates his actions. It’s as simple as that. The asharis and maturidis position is the same on this. They explain it beautifully .
@ouessantpeaches6122
@ouessantpeaches6122 6 ай бұрын
76:30 and 71:29. How do they explain these verses? We can only will as God wills.
@JosefTheMuslim
@JosefTheMuslim 6 ай бұрын
@@ouessantpeaches6122Tafsir Ibn kathir: you are not able to will guidance for your self without the help and guidance that Allah wills for you. (You have to read the context, the verse before and after.) Furthermore you cannot have a will, a body or any ability if Allah doesn’t give you these abilities.
@markward3981
@markward3981 6 ай бұрын
​@@ouessantpeaches6122 Those ayat don't negate anything the speaker said. Will is spoken of in these ayat, the speaker in the video is speaking primarily of creation.
@WarChestAnalytics
@WarChestAnalytics 6 ай бұрын
We all say Inshallah...because we all know that everything is done by the will of Allah, so every created action is Allah's will, but our intent to do them is what we earn. There is nothing that escapes Allah's Qadr.
@markward3981
@markward3981 6 ай бұрын
@@WarChestAnalytics That is a simple way of thinking about it
@thedailydoze8931
@thedailydoze8931 3 ай бұрын
Great video . May الله protect you from all evil and blasphemy Aameen ❤️
@kafakir
@kafakir 2 ай бұрын
Allahu Akbar inshallah I will try to learn more ❤❤
@ilyasismail215
@ilyasismail215 6 ай бұрын
Mohammed Hijab explained it very well. I'm summarising what he said but the jist of it is that: Allah has created the actions of everything, including humans. AND He has made free will exist in humans beings. Now someone might think "how?" And the answer is that Allah can make both exist at the same time, and He knows best how. We cannot fathom it and we leave it at that. There's concepts in studies such as quantum physics that people cannot fathom how they work, yet people try to understand metaphysical concepts such as Qadr, Jannah, Jahannam etc.
@ilyasismail215
@ilyasismail215 6 ай бұрын
The clip that I am referring to kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYndloyljc-HbZYsi=6MyJhf4uYoeKgNS4
@abdullahkhan9162
@abdullahkhan9162 6 ай бұрын
this isnt a very convincing answer. you're just hiding away from obvious logical contradictions behind the cop out of "allah is all powerful"
@mcgullible5212
@mcgullible5212 6 ай бұрын
​@@abdullahkhan9162It's the best answer you're gonna get. They go over every model and all of them are flawed. Determinism is coherent but it contradicts our intimate experience, free will is problematic because we observe causality. Without Allah there's no coherent compatibilist model. With Allah there's no apparent coherent compatibilist model. You just have to accept that man can choose and that Allah knows our future because it's the Wahi.
@Pakilla64
@Pakilla64 6 ай бұрын
​@@abdullahkhan9162if Allah has created everything in a certain way, and if He knows what's gonna happen to everyone of us, what's the conclusion?
@abdullahkhan9162
@abdullahkhan9162 6 ай бұрын
@@mcgullible5212 how does determinism contradict our intimate experience?
@hikkato88
@hikkato88 6 ай бұрын
Trust me even you give them ton of Dalil they still won't accept it
@konstantinosskordos8645
@konstantinosskordos8645 5 ай бұрын
facts
@jyggalag_
@jyggalag_ 6 ай бұрын
Mashallah. Can you please make some more vidoes about the sifaat of our Lord. Im in great confusion about aqeedah.
@micdeymearstienbeiger37
@micdeymearstienbeiger37 6 ай бұрын
Creation of good and evil in Ash'ari aqida is explained in easy to understand terms in this easy 5-minute two part video series: . First, please watch Part A: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYSoqpaLpNSXb5osi=F-6PWkm3qWTyik03 Then, watch Part B: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH2UnamAntiHfc0si=qM6BbuYlS7D0PVzW Jazakumullahu khairan!
@serkanalbayrak2972
@serkanalbayrak2972 5 ай бұрын
4:10 what does kasb and khalq mean?
@ahsana9793
@ahsana9793 6 ай бұрын
The last ayah you mentioned is in surah fatir not saba
@nibirsactiongamecorner8738
@nibirsactiongamecorner8738 6 ай бұрын
If salafis are opposed to "Allah creates all actions" I doubt they are still muslim still.
@Somebody294
@Somebody294 6 ай бұрын
Jazakum Allah khair
@RS-hg6ny
@RS-hg6ny 6 ай бұрын
the only way to understand this is by viewing human actions in abstraction from a first person perspective, you have direct experience of being responsible for your actions and you will be held accountable for the feeling of this direct experience the fact that Allah is the originator of all actions and us being held accountable for those actions cannot be fully comprehended by human beings, but the lack of comprehension does not mean contradiction, the muslim position is to adopt a compatibilistic approach of simultaneous operation of independent from humanly perspective actions, and Allah being the ultimate originator of those actions ironically this same problem is encountered in an atheistic naturalistic paradigm, where human actions are just a mere consequence and part of the chemical and physical chain reactions which started when the universe began to exist, but at the same time the ownership of the actions is directly experienced by every human being, and the harmonisation of both sets of truths becomes highly problematic, as naturalistic atheism as a paradigm is predicated on infallible human reason. nevertheless, and again very ironically, this problem has been addressed by Kant who suggested a compatibilistic approach by giving a comparison of 2 trains always travelling in the same direction but operating independently, and this line of reasoning is exactly the islamic line of reasoning (which again proves how much the enlightenment period was influenced by the islamic tradition), at the end of the day we have to admit that in this realm human reason is limited and not capable of fully grasping this existential mystery
@UAM-
@UAM- 6 ай бұрын
Please Shakyh Clarify on the ashari aqeedah,it gets so much hate with some calling it as kufr Are these correct?
@sherifayantayo2873
@sherifayantayo2873 5 ай бұрын
Anyone can make claims that something is kufr but as sheikh showed in the video , that this understanding of kasb is directly from the Quran.
@arsalanahmad1401
@arsalanahmad1401 Ай бұрын
Where does کسب comes from? Is our کسب not created by us?
@JohnSmith-rz7fh
@JohnSmith-rz7fh 6 ай бұрын
The exposition given in the video is far from sufficient, if I am to champion the Mu’tazili view (which I do not hold), the responses to the evidences provided are very simple. As for the first ayah that states "الله خالق كل شيء" The question is asked, “are there exceptions to this notion?”, if the response is no, then the ayah is brought fourth: “قل أي شيء أكبر شهادة؛ قل الله” Hence if there are no exceptions, then God himself is created, leading to an absurdity. Therefore the ayah is receiving of exceptions, and if a Mu’tazili states that one’s actions are from the set of such exceptions, no contradiction ensues. As for the ayah that states “والله خلقكم وما تعملون” Az-Zamakhshari states: { وَٱللَّهُ خَلَقَكُمْ وَمَا تَعْمَلُونَ } يعني خلقكم وخلق ما تعملونه من الأصنام، كقوله: { بَل رَّبُّكُمْ رَبُّ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَاتِ وَٱلأَرْضَ ٱلَّذِى فطَرَهُنَّ } [الأنبياء: 56] أي فطر الأصنام. فإن قلت: كيف يكون الشيء الواحد مخلوقاً لله معمولاً لهم، حيث أوقع خلقه وعملهم عليها جميعاً؟ قلت: هذا كما يقال: عمل النجار الباب والكرسي، وعمل الصائغ السوار والخلخال، والمراد عمل أشكال هذه الأشياء وصورها دون جواهرها، والأصنام جواهر وأشكال، فخالق جواهرها الله، وعاملوا أشكالها الذين يشكلونها بنحتهم وحذفهم بعض أجزائها، حتى يستوي التشكيل الذي يريدونه. فإن قلت: فما أنكرت أن تكون ما مصدرية لا موصولة، ويكون المعنى: والله خلقكم وعملكم، كما تقول المجبرة؟ قلت؛ أقرب ما يبطل به هذا السؤال بعد بطلانه بحجج العقل والكتاب: أن معنى الآية يأباه إباء جلياً، وينبو عنه نبوّاً ظاهراً، وذلك أن الله عزّ وجلّ قد احتج عليهم بأنّ العابد والمعبود جميعاً خلق الله، فكيف يعبد المخلوق المخلوق، على أن العابد منهما هو الذي عمل صورة المعبود وشكله، ولولاه لما قدر أن يصوّر نفسه ويشكلها، ولو قلت: والله خلقكم وخلق عملكم، ولم يكن محتجاً عليهم ولا كان لكلامك طباق. وشيء آخر: وهو أن قوله: { وَمَا تَعْمَلُونَ } ترجمة عن قوله: { مَا تَنْحِتُونَ } و (ما) في { مَا تَنْحِتُونَ } موصولة لا مقال فيها فلا يعدل بها عن أختها إلاّ متعسف متعصب لمذهبه، من غير نظر في علم البيان، ولا تبصر لنظم القرآن. فإن قلت: اجعلها موصولة حتى لا يلزمني ما ألزمت، وأريد: وما تعملونه من أعمالكم. قلت: بل الإلزامان في عنقك لا يفكهما إلاّ الإذعان للحق، وذلك أنك جعلتها موصولة، فإنك في إرادتك بها العمل غير محتج على المشركين، كحالك وقد جعلتها مصدرية، وأيضاً فأنك قاطع بذلك الصلة بين ما تعملون وما تنحتون، حتى تخالف بين المرادين بهما؛ فتزيد بما تنحتون: الأعيان التي هي الأصنام، وبما تعملون: المعاني التي هي الأعمال؛ وفي ذلك فك النظم وتبتيره؛ كما إذا جعلتها مصدرية. Abu Hayyan Al-Andalusi also concurs with him from a linguistic perspective, and so does Imam At-Tabari. As for the ayah that stated “أم جعلو لله شركاء خلقوا كخلقه” The response here is two fold. The first is to point out, as Zamakhshari did so above, that humans mold and image, move and manipulate atoms created by God, hence they do not create in a real sense but rather in a secondary sense. The second response is that the ayah says “Partners that create creation akin to his (Allah’s) creation”, and it is not said that the creation of man is akin to the creation of God. As for the ayah “فلم تقتلوهم ولكن الله قتلهم وما رميت إذ رميت ولكن الله رمى” There are a multitude of responses, the simplest of them being that the ayah is referring to a specific incident and does not apply generally; the mention of it in particular suggests the uniqueness of the occurrence. Or perhaps one could say as Imam As-Shawkani said: { فَلَمْ تَقْتُلُوهُمْ وَلَـٰكِنَّ ٱللَّهَ قَتَلَهُمْ } الفاء جواب شرط مقدّر، أي إذا عرفتم ما قصه الله عليكم من إمداده لكم بالملائكة، وإيقاع الرعب في قلوبهم، فلم تقتلوهم ولكنّ الله قتلهم بما يسره لكم من الأسباب الموجبة للنصر. … قال ثعلب: المعنى { وَمَا رَمَيْتَ } الفزع والرعب في قلوبهم { إِذْ رَمَيْتَ } بالحصباء فانهزموا { وَلَـٰكِنَّ ٱللَّهَ رَمَىٰ } أي: أعانك وأظفرك، والعرب تقول: رمى الله لك، أي أعانك وأظفرك وصنع لك. وقد حكى مثل هذا أبو عبيدة في كتاب المجاز. وقال محمد بن يزيد المبرد: المعنى { وَمَا رَمَيْتَ } بقوّتك { إِذْ رَمَيْتَ } ولكنك بقوّة الله رميت. As for you quoting Ibn Aqeel as an authority of the Hanbali Aqeedah, this indicates a lack of perusal through the works of Islamic history, the irony of his mention is great indeed. Furthermore, regarding Ibn Taymiyyah, his view is distinct from the Ashari view, and dare I say contradictory. Please conduct thorough research before speaking in public about a topic.
@mohammedhanif6780
@mohammedhanif6780 2 ай бұрын
so if a person kills someone by shooting them, then Allah created the intention to kill and Allah created the action to pull the trigger. every part of the chain of f causes and effects that lead to the killing is controlled and created by Allah and there is no input from the person, they are simply the locus or place of Allah's creative actions. The person's own intentions to kill are created so he doesn't even have control over that. That makes the person a mere puppet with no control over anything and yet they are punished. This seems unjust. Imagine a scemario: a hypnotist hypnotises you so that you are completely under their control. He hypnotises you to kill someone. He also hypnotises you to believe that it was you who really wanted to kill that person. And he hypnotises you to forget you were ever hypnotised. Imagine all this gets known by the police and someone is going to get charged with murder. What does your moral intuition tell you? Is the hymoptist going to be charged with murder or you when you are just a victim of the hypnotist and had no control over any of your actions? This Ashari idea of kasb is correct except for the idea that your intentions are also created by Allah and you have no effective at all, not even to make the intentionn! then you're just a puppet. It's pure compulsion. The Maturidi version of kasb is morally superior as they say we do have a power given to us by Allah to form our intentions. And it is these Intentions that we control upon which we are really judged.
@emrealkilinc7427
@emrealkilinc7427 6 ай бұрын
How to you come to the conclusion that أفعال are created??
@Mesut69
@Mesut69 6 ай бұрын
have you watched the video?
@ave390
@ave390 6 ай бұрын
I genuinely still don't understand, could anyone paraphrase what Dr Shadee said in a more digestible manner?
@madyasiwi
@madyasiwi 6 ай бұрын
Do you play video games? I think it's a good analogy that many people can relate to. Imagine you're playing a video game character. All the actions of that character were created by the game developers: walking, running, jumping, shooting, etc. But you can control the actions of the character by pressing buttons on the keyboard or gamepad. When playing the game, you, as the player, may receive rewards or penalties for the actions of your character. Even though you didn't create the character's actions, the game treats you as being responsible for those actions.
@Makachev01
@Makachev01 6 ай бұрын
@@madyasiwiis this a Ashari answer? I thought that the shakyh said that this is a mutazila doctrine
@madyasiwi
@madyasiwi 6 ай бұрын
@@Makachev01 Watch it again more carefully from 2:20. The Mu'tazilites believed that we create our own actions. To apply the video game analogy, the Mu'tazilites believe that you, as the video game player, are the creator of the video game character's actions. This is not true, because all you do is just mash some buttons.
@platorsokoli1706
@platorsokoli1706 6 ай бұрын
@@madyasiwi Wouldn't it be more in correct according to the ashari aqedah to say that the game developers are actively making the character move every time u press the button. What u describe is rather more in align to salafi/atharis, Allah has created the concept of moving per se, and he has giving this ability to move to the creation, the same way the game developer has created the moving mechanics and given this mechanic to the character and to you as a player to be able to control it.
@madyasiwi
@madyasiwi 6 ай бұрын
@@platorsokoli1706 Game characters actually don't have the ability to move on their own. It's the game engine, which is written by the game developers, that animates them. Nor does the player directly control them. When a button is pressed, the game engine captures the input signal, interprets it according to the rules defined by the game developer, and eventually animates the character in a certain way or moves it in a certain direction. The relationship can be analogized as follows: - Game developers -> game engine (manifestation of idea) -> in-game world - Allah -> eternal will (divine attribute) -> temporal creation Just as the game engine, embodying the developers' vision, animates the characters based on player input, Allah's eternal will governs the creation and unfolding of events in the universe. The game engine acts as the intermediary that manifests the developers' intentions within the game, similar to how God's eternal will brings about the temporal creation.
@Mahdhdosonnsbhhehdhd
@Mahdhdosonnsbhhehdhd 6 ай бұрын
Some hanafis are also ashaari Dr.😅
@apexinn
@apexinn 6 ай бұрын
Most hanafis are maturidi which are similar to asharis
@Mahdhdosonnsbhhehdhd
@Mahdhdosonnsbhhehdhd 6 ай бұрын
@@apexinn yes brother, that’s why I said some, me being on of them
@konstantinosskordos8645
@konstantinosskordos8645 5 ай бұрын
@@apexinn yeah facts
@hoistedWR
@hoistedWR 6 ай бұрын
Is this channel from Asharia?
@ahmetarvas7981
@ahmetarvas7981 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@asrarahmed177
@asrarahmed177 2 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah
@s.a.9600
@s.a.9600 6 ай бұрын
DESTINY All knowledge is with Allah, past present and future. Allah is the creator of all things and gives those guidance. Everything is recorded. Humans have free will and so we own our conscious actions, deeds are by intention.
@neem-shab-sultanat
@neem-shab-sultanat 6 ай бұрын
maturidi also differ
@afrozzz5634
@afrozzz5634 6 ай бұрын
What do they differ on?
@benjumeda2461
@benjumeda2461 6 ай бұрын
@@afrozzz5634 gives free will slightly more freedom than ashari
@afrozzz5634
@afrozzz5634 5 ай бұрын
@@benjumeda2461could you please elaborate? JAK
@carManThe3rd
@carManThe3rd 6 ай бұрын
so my will to do x is not created by allah? or does allah create my will?
@halaldigest
@halaldigest 6 ай бұрын
@@carManThe3rd take the aqidah course on arkview.
@Sqwte3402
@Sqwte3402 6 ай бұрын
You can lift a cup by yourself because Allah SWT has given you the ability... You can do nothing without him... You have the ability to do both good and evil and the ability to do so has been given by Allah... But we all know that the holy quran is the word of our Lord... (Where we know the story of iblees how he refused to prostrate to Adam because of his arrogance if Allah SWT wanted he could have usurped hia power but he allowed and challenged him as to how he can misguide people till end)... So everything is created by Allah everything is allowed to occur whether good or will... It's all his... But the diff is whether is it according to what Allah has mentioned in quran if it's not according to quran then he has allowed it to happen but one will be punished for it)... Please read the simple tafseer of holy quran everything is mentioned...
@Halaqa
@Halaqa 6 ай бұрын
Everything other than Allah ta'ala is created by Allah ta'ala.
@rezacny
@rezacny 6 ай бұрын
Your will to x is created by Allah. Doesn’t negate the fact you have a will of your own. Meaning all Allah is doing is bringing into existence an event in which a person wills to do x. Hence you chose to do x. Here is the tricky part of qadr. You chose to do x but you cannot choose to choose to do x because Allah willed the event where you would do x would come into existence, so it cannot fail to occur and it is inevitable
@Sqwte3402
@Sqwte3402 6 ай бұрын
@@rezacny Allah SWT has taught the servant to ask from him the path of the righteous and not the path who has been misguided(in surah faitha) as such although the holy quran is very simple to understand but still we need some righteous people to guide us... The greatest folly is that when we try to learn on our own and use too much of our brain... Allah SWt has guided me to the path but is my will to walk on it or not... Allah SWT knows what I will do in future but he has not willed it... It's my action...
@marcusj9947
@marcusj9947 6 ай бұрын
Adam told Musa his actions in Eden was not his fault and Allah ordained it for him.
@aimalek-z9i
@aimalek-z9i 6 ай бұрын
An influential person by the name of Jake has issue witn Ashaari.
@FBM964
@FBM964 6 ай бұрын
Barak Allah feek, you know who proceeded him in this? the salaf. Read the saying of ahmad ibn hanbal compiled by his son Abdullah, in his book "al-Sunnah", also Ibn Khuzaimah in his book "al-Tawheed" and Ibn Manda in "al-Tawheed". and after them "Usool al-I'etiqad" (the principles of creed) by al-Lalkai (412 ah), or "al-Hujjah" by al-Asfahani, or "al-'Uluw" by Imam al-Thahabi. and many other books of the salaf which clearly and explicitly criticize heavily the beliefs of the Ashari (who are actually Jahmis), Wallah almusta'an.
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 6 ай бұрын
​@FBM964 Ashariis are the majority of the Muslim Sunni Umma, and the Majority of the Salaf. Your "salafi" sect doesn't follow the salaf you follow Muhammad ibn AbdulWahab which follow Ibn Taymiya exclusively.
@emrealkilinc7427
@emrealkilinc7427 6 ай бұрын
The tafsir of the verse where Allah says that he creates what we do is that this is referred to the idols in the time of ibrahin a.s which were build! And why should أفعال be included in شيء
@muradmousa3468
@muradmousa3468 6 ай бұрын
Regardless of whether a person holds this belief or not, the sheikh analogy was incredibly dumb, and it backfires on him pretty quickly. All you have to say to him is "fine so you believe that Allah wills that you shoot that person? So then I didn't kill him, Allah willed it." I think we can all agree that his logic sounds very stupid in the example I just gave
@platorsokoli1706
@platorsokoli1706 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I was thinking the same thing, but how to we reconcile with Surah Al-Anfal, Ayah 17 "And you did not kill them, but it was Allāh who killed them.1 And you threw not, [O Muḥammad], when you threw, but it was Allāh who threw2 that He might test the believers with a good test.3 Indeed, Allāh is Hearing and Knowing."
@oeshkoer
@oeshkoer Ай бұрын
You got it! This man lies.
@syedahmedshaheer117
@syedahmedshaheer117 6 ай бұрын
By that statement the whole day of judgement ends up as a joke. Either Allah is just and we are responsible for our act or this and Allah isn't just.
@Regreg347
@Regreg347 6 ай бұрын
You didn't understand what he was saying. There is a difference between creating(khalq) and kasb (doing). The creation cannot do khalq, it only does kasab, which is doing the action out of the free will given to you by Allah. Imam Bukhari used to say "our recitation of Quran is makhluq" because all of our af'aal (meaning works, whatever they may be whether sitting speaking writing etc) are makhluq i.e., creation of Allah. It's not that hard to understand
@syedahmedshaheer117
@syedahmedshaheer117 6 ай бұрын
@@Regreg347 it is very hard to understand, if you find it easy then explain. If I rob a bank 1)did I Do it and am responsible for it 2) did Allah do it with me as puppet and I am responsible for it 3) did Allah do it with me as puppet and I am not responsible for it
@Regreg347
@Regreg347 6 ай бұрын
@@syedahmedshaheer117 brother i think a person has explained it very well in this comment section with the example of a video game. You are the one pushing the buttons of your character and u suffer from the consequences of 'your' actions in the game by doing that, yet at the same time the game developer is the one who has made the game and everything that you 'do' in it is made by him and it includes all of the actions of your character. Allah is the creator of all things meanwhile we are the creations doing those things by actively willing to do them through our free will and we will be responsible for them. This whole aqidah lines up with the ayaat of the Qur'an leaving no room for any contradiction because if you say Allah is the creator we are just puppets then u reject the kasab which is mentioned in the Qur'an and if you say we are the creator of our actions and Allah isn't then you reject the ayah that says Allah is creator of all things.
@syedahmedshaheer117
@syedahmedshaheer117 6 ай бұрын
@@Regreg347 in that case I am the creator of my actions in the game more accurately I m a dependent casual agent. This is exactly what Dr shadee rejected. He basically said it can't be that we are given dependent power to do things it's a mutazili doctrine and the doctrine that ibn taymiyyah preached . In the game the game avatars and you yourself as the player have the ability to do things that's why you are responsible for your act. The creator of the game made the game physics which is why he is the facilitator. That's almost akin to ibn Qayyims position. Dr shadee is saying the exact opposite. Again given you said it's easy to understand please make me understand of the 3 choice which one is kasb Choices being : If I rob a bank 1)did I Do it(with God given ability) and am responsible for it 2) did Allah do it with me as puppet and I am responsible for it 3) did Allah do it with me as puppet and I am not responsible for it
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 6 ай бұрын
​@@syedahmedshaheer117you did the action yourself, meaning your intention to do it. However your ability to do it was created by Allah. Back to the video game example, you can't make a character in the game do things that are not programmed by the developer. So you can press a button all you want and the character will do nothing if developer didn't program them to do anything, you can have the full intention to take a gun and shoot someone in the head but Allah didn't create your action then nothing will happen, the event will only happen if Allah creates it. You are responsible for wanting to do the action and actively doing it.
@LukeMyth
@LukeMyth 6 ай бұрын
It seems like the debate on freewill has been imported from the Greeks and it wasn’t explicitly dealt with it in revelation. You seem to be using Islamic terms, rather than trying to reconfigure the debate in terms of Latin and Greek. My take on “freedom” is that it probably wasn’t a philosophical term to begin with but more to do with being an artefact of happily engaging in actions in the stressfree manner eg a free marriage or a free exchange of goods ( not rape or theft). This is not a philosophical issue but more of a psychological issue regarding resistance and personal engagement. When the philosophers start to discuss the issue, the definition of freedom becomes clouded and sometimes in coherent? On the other hand, if you look at freedom as being expressive of neuroscience and the aspects of autonomic activity and stress or relaxation, et cetera then it becomes more clear as to what it could mean . So Allah could create an action and it could either be free or not free according to whether we were resisting with our full personality and had no choice ( forced etc) or whether we were fully congruent and authentically engaged in the action in which case it would be free ( truly self expressive). I’d say this might be neuro scientific or psychological compatibilsm. Therefore, there is a continuum of freedom and lack of freedom and it is an “ a posteriori” issue which is why there are mitigating circumstances and exemption rules in law. On the other hand, it seems like Mohammed hijab and others ( as sunmarissd below) see it as “a priori” ( we are free in all areas of action like a triangle always has 3 sides)? I suppose people can make a case for that, but you shouldn’t conflate axioms and groundwork definitions and context. If you ignore this advice then the debate probably gets ultra complex and ambiguous as to what precisely is meant by freedom in the first place and without clear definitions we are in a quagmire. Meaning there may be different different types of freedom for instant psychological freedom and metaphysical freedom which are two different things . Psychological freedom is just stressfree not being forced et cetera and even enjoying what you’re doing. Metaphysical something there is something more abstract and maybe deserves different treatment and a different term or at least a differentiating term to make it clear we are not conflicting the two. As far as I know, Sharia always dealt with psychological freedom and not metaphysical freedom ? The abstract negation of responsibility is a philosophical issue, whereas the Jurust would deal with concrete issues regarding the psychological state and legal and sociological context, et cetera . It’s interesting in the word Abdullah means slave of Allah and a slave is someone whose will is not their own so to speak therefore it seems like in Islam we actually deny ourselves ordinary freedoms (indulgence in sin naffs illusion et cetera) and in a sense we will not will unless Allah wills because we do not reveal religion we instead follow the revealed religion and only Allah guides hearts??? in that sense (sense lll) it’s ironic that freedom is not something that it is bad to lack but it’s good to get rid of LOL
@booksbrains1249
@booksbrains1249 Ай бұрын
U never answered ۔۔۔۔۔😂
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 6 ай бұрын
فتبارك الله احسن الخالقين Allah is the greatest creator and no one can create the same way like Allah, because Allah creates from nothing which is true innovation, while humans are creators but they create from copying Allah creation, no human can create from nothing. So I have to disagree with you when you say Allah is the "only" creator, Allah is the best creator not the only creator as per the Quran. Allah is the only god and the creator of everything yes, for example when a human creates a car this car is also a creation of Allah since the Human took inspiration from nature and used materials and laws all of which are the creatures of Allah. So a human is a creator but a much simpler one that relies on Allah to create, while Allah is the best creator because he creates from nothings and depends on nothing to create.
@Sqwte3402
@Sqwte3402 6 ай бұрын
Simple answer is Allah swt has not withdrawn the power from shaitaan to misguide people... So when people break the covenant of Allah swt then the qalb is controlled by shaitan... And the action is also cintrolled by shaitan... (Although the power is ultimately Allahs).... So he has allowed the action to happen but it is not with his consent but with the consent of the shaitaan.. ( so there is shaitanic power which will be punished only at the end)... So its very important to assciate with good people so that are qalb remain safe from shaitaan.. As per my thinking...
@Halaqa
@Halaqa 6 ай бұрын
Not true, usually, unless the person is majnun. It says in the Qur'an that Shaytan, on the Day of Judgement, will be blamed for the sins of man by the guilty and he will disown them and say "all I did was beckon you, and you answered." All he does is make evil seem fair-seeming or give a wasawasah "invitation" to sin. Then they leave. And then they come back and say "do evil." Until the person does it or rejects it etc. Or say the maudhu and Allah takes them away.
@Sqwte3402
@Sqwte3402 6 ай бұрын
@@Halaqa both good and evil try to influence people and the action is only the result which is dominant... So if the evil is dominnat over the good... Evil occurs.... You an individual will be blamed for the action which you have committed influenced by shaitan... So as the reward of good deed done on the influence of the good people credit is given to the influencer so also the punishment of the bad deed is also borne by the one who influenced.... You have acted so you will be rewarded or punished... So now the question is how can shaitan dominant over Allah until allah allows it to do so... So Allah SWT has allowed shaitan to dominant in some cases ... The punishment awaits!
@oeshkoer
@oeshkoer Ай бұрын
This man lies. Asharis are hidden Jabris.
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