Is Allah in the Sky? | Imam Nawawi on Hadith of the Slave Girl

Dr Shadee Elmasry navigates through the varying opinions and analyses presented by scholars on the Hadith of the slave girl. Unravel the significance of interpreting this Hadith and the implications it carries within Islamic teachings.
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[@sarimsakliyogurtlumantikli1212]

The main thing about the salafis is that they think they can just read ayats and hadiths, take their first appearent meaning, and then go on to disregard entire schools of methodology built upon centuries of academic discourse to understand the Qur'an and Prophet Muhamad (saw). Their eagerness to enforce their simple-minded creed to misguide people from the path of the scholars and tthe inheritors of Prophet Muhammad (saw) is exactly what makes their rhetoric successful, yet the same thing is also their doom. Since they don't allow discourse to settle disagreements, when the inevitable occurance of these disagreements arrive, they start to refute each other as well. Essentially destroying their movement from the inside (this is why, although they can gather a following, their groups are always minorities with small numbers). And those among them who choose to respect discourses end up becoming a very soft version of salafis as they eventually have to respect the discourse of opinions inside Ahl al Sunnah too.

[@user-vi5wh7ts6c]

Asalaam mu'alaykum wa ragmatullahi wa barakaatu brother exactly like he said the pious predecessors believed..what are you on about?

[@SupremeSuperiorStick]

Broadly speaking, the rigid lines of understanding within the Salafi movement create such a divide between the physical and spiritual realms that proponents of this movement almost become "atheistic" about any form of optional ibadah. There was a clear, holistic understanding in early Islam that Allah had a direct relationship with His creation, and that all conceivable action (whether "secular" or "religious") served some kind of function within His grander plan and design. If there was a matter that was more ambiguous in the text, it was clear that God 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥 for it to be ambiguous; muslims scholars understood a greater purpose behind their debates and disagreements in search of the "truth" (and this is conjecture, but it does not seem like a coincidence to me that this intellectual discourse facilitated a golden age in the Islamic world that spawned the world's greatest civilization at the time out of virtually nothing). I think this is also why Salafism indirectly promotes materialism in society; if it is not possible to contribute anything valuable to the Islamic tradition (or if it is "bidah" to assign God's name to anything outside the apparent meaning of texts), then that means all non-religious endeavours in my personal life must be removed from the spiritual realm. I cannot publish biological studies invoking the name of "Allah's design", I cannot philosophically convey the necessity of God's existence, and I cannot express my love of our creator through creative works of art that inspire others to come closer to their lord. If everything "extra" is bidah, then people will only remember Allah in specific actions of worship. The materialistic, consumption driven personal lives of Gulf Arabs is a clear example. It is interesting how the rise of Protestantism in the West (i.e. the separation of Church and State) has lead to a similar phenomenon of secularism in places like America. The spirit of the law must extend beyond the letter of the law.

[@wqsnsr8]

Stop yapping so much, go to the point, make it short & precise

[@jb_4379]

First of who do you mean by salafis. Salaf are righteous first generations of muslims. Do you mean among the others Imam Shafi'i rhm or Imam Malik or Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbel rhm were salafis? Do you know their way of thinking about aqida and about the meaning of this hadith?

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

Remove your greek knowledge out of islam

[@wanderingtraveler71]

A man asked Imam Malik (d. 179): “How did Allah make istiwa’ on the throne?” Imam Malik inclined his head and was silent until the sweat of fever covered his brow, then he looked up and said: “Istiwa’ is not unknown (ghayru majhul), the modality of it is inconceivable in the mind (al-kayfu minhu ghayru ma`qul); but belief in it is obligatory, and inquiring about it is a heretical innovation. You are an innovator.” And he gave orders for him to be taken out.

[@lasagnadevy]

@@wanderingtraveler71 uknown is "ghayru maaroof" not "ghayru majhoul"

[@wanderingtraveler71]

@@lasagnadevy if something is not unknown then it is known. I don’t think you understood my point.

[@lasagnadevy]

@@wanderingtraveler71 not that , i just wanted to correct ur arabic

[@syedsuhaibsajad2961]

​@@lasagnadevy brother actually his arabic is correct you can't interpret it , actually imam malik said 'إستوى ' is 'غير مجهول' Means not unknown, which in layman words means its know, it was the greatness of imam malik and his knowledge of,لغة العربية . These are our salaf, إنشاءالله.

[@syedsuhaibsajad2961]

​@@lasagnadevyand yeah further it was aqidah of imam malik also that إستوى is not unknown(again that means its known) . But its modality, how is it is unknown. In his words (رحمه الله) The (كيفية ) is unknown. Means we can't interpret how it is but it is and if a person don't believe in it, then the person has done kufr , as the ulama al haq define. والله أعلم با الصواب

[@awdgaray]

In essence, even this explanation doesn't seem to controversial in regards to al-Hanabila. The Hanbali position is not to attribute a location to Allah, the non-Hanbali position isn't really doing that either, rather providing context and insight.

[@Bego-i8z]

@@awdgaray ...arabs/Muslims are not enough close to be declared as Insane people world wide! they must defiet dead Pharaoh to make IT happen ! 😂😀

[@Bego-i8z]

@@awdgaray something very funny with Arab / Muslim people! did you ever meet an Arab that you remember his full name - afterwards?

[@awdgaray]

@@Bego-i8z Yes, all the time, especially in the U.S. It's much easier to remember a unique name when everyone else is named John, James, Stephanie, and Lindsey.

[@Bego-i8z]

@@awdgaray ...you are wrong ! I easily remember Chinese Xi Ping more than Qatar's ruler ! Arab pride will never be much for Chinese practicality !

[@awdgaray]

@@Bego-i8z What's bro yapping about

[@TheMercifulAndJust]

Good explanation well done. Jazak Allah kherya

[@Iamfsaly]

(Sama’a) doesn’t mean sky in Arabic, sama’a means everything which is above, and Allah is above the sam’a and the throne , and famous Moroccan Maliki scholar Said Al Kamali says Allah is above the 7 sama’a and the throne

[@DrWoofOfficial]

More accurately, it does mean sky, but it also means what you said

[@Iamfsaly]

@@DrWoofOfficialLike I said everything which is above you is called sama’a , that’s the definition of the word “فكل ما علاك فهو سماء، فيسمى الفضاء الذي نراه فوقنا سماء” (سورة الذَّاريَات) وَٱلسَّمَآءَ بَنَيۡنَٰهَا بِأَيۡيْدٖ وَإِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ (سورة سبأ) إِنْ نَشَأْ نَخْسِفْ بِهِمُ الْأَرْضَ أَوْ نُسْقِطْ عَلَيْهِمْ كِسَفًا مِنَ السَّمَاءِ

[@Iamfsaly]

@@DrWoofOfficial Sidrat alMuntaha marks the utmost boundary in the seventh Sama’a, where the knowledge of the creation ends

[@mz8452]

He is famous but he is contemporary. He’s nothing compared to al nawawi

[@nbarr318]

@@mz8452 Imam Bukhari said Allah is above the Arsh

[@stadiamak692]

Atharis and hanbalis don't say this aqidah is a matter of ijtihad... there are clear text according to them

[@Abuaaliyah1]

Aqeedah is a matter of ijtihad, it requires yaqeen.

[@inabdel]

روى الحاكم: سمعت أبا جعفر محمد بن صالح بن هانئ يقول: سمعت أبا بكر محمد بن إسحاق بن خزيمة يقول: من لم يقل بأن الله عز وجل على عرشه قد استوى فوق سبع سماواته فهو كافر بربه Al-Hakim narrated with his chain that Ibn Khuzaimah (the eminent Shafi'i scholar) said: Whoever does not say that Allah is upon His throne, risen above His seven heavens, then he is a disbeliever in his lord.

[@j3ts287]

Malik was an Athari, as were the other 3 imams. The actual Hadith from Malik himself, where does it say she is mute? Why would the prophet ﷺ not correct her?: ‎“The prophet ﷺ asked her: Where is Allah? She said: Above the heaven. He said: Who am I? She said: You are the Messenger of Allah. He said: Free her, for she is a believer." [Al-Muwatta 2251] Arabic

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

Ali ibn Abi Talib said "Allah existed eternally and there was no place, and He is now as He always was." Al Faruq Baynal Firaq, Imam Baghdadiy In other words, not in a place, not in a direction. This expression of Allah existing eternally and there being nothing else with HIM is from the Messenger of Allah SAS. In Bukhari he said, "Allah existed eternally and nothing else existed. "

[@Muzaffar_Mohammad]

One narration in the Muwatta’ of Malik states that the slave girl was black and that when the Messenger of God questioned her; he said “Do you testify that there is no god but Allah?” She said, “Yes.” He asked, “Do you testify Muhammad is the Messenger of God?” She said, “Yes.” He went on, “Do you believe in the resurrection after death?” She replied, “Yes.” The Messenger of God said, “Free her.” * In other versions, the slave girl cannot speak, but merely points to the sky in answer. Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani said of the various versions of the hadith, “There is great contradiction in the wording.” Given the conflicting versions, there is a strong possibility that it has been related merely in terms of what one or more narrators understood, and hence one of the versions is not adequate to establish a point of belief. * Muwatta’ under the chapter Setting Free and Wala’-9 / 322.

[@Ash-Shura]

​@@carimaelfarrah7800do you even know the isnad of what you quoted

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@Ash-Shura The statement of Imam Ali is without chain. The statement of Rasulullah SAS كَانَ اللَّهُ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ شَىْءٌ غَيْرُهُ، Is in Sahih Bukhari. There is no contradiction. If our blessed Prophet said there was nothing besides Allah, that means He exists without a place. He did not create the throne in order to have a place, because He is eternal and so are His attributes. HE, MIGHTY AND MAJESTIC, does not need anything, not the throne, not a direction. The Hadith of the slave girl, as.the brother pointed out, has numerous contradicting narrations, and cannot be taken as a proof. Allah existed before the throne, and He is not in anyway dependant upon it. ALLAH IS AS HE ALWAYS WAS. Free of boundaries, dimensions, directions, or limitations. Read Imam.Tahawi's creed, you can probably find it for free online, he is from.the salaf. All the best to you.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@user-rh2hk3dk2m here is what I am.referring to. wahhabisrefuted.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/salafis-reject-imam-tahawi-and-ascribe-a-direction-to-allah/

[@Azgoesuze]

Ok so it's nothing wrong if we repeat as the slave girl said and say "Allah is في السماء" fi as sama

[@elmajraz6019]

The slave girl is mute.

[@MakeAw1shkid]

Well do we take a Mujassim understanding of it or do we leave the Kayfiyyah to Allah? Is it interpreted in such a way that befits his majesty? That’s your make or break for a statement about Allah ﷻ.

[@jb_4379]

This shaykh says if you ask him Imam Newewi is first go-to source for anything 🤔 so what about sources Imam Newewi took from.? 4 Imams and theirs students and great scholars that came before Imam Newewi.

[@sabirabdulkadir2974]

He was probably talking about the explanation of the hadith.

[@SadiqueKhan449]

sama is everywhere because earth is spherical even if you say allah is above or sama it will make it everywhere

[@nasreldeenmohamed3703]

Please pubish a video breaking down the rulling of having birthday celebrations, attending them, etc.

[@Star_Boy0071]

Prophet ﷺ said: 1. "A Group of my Ummah will continue to Prevail on the basis of the Truth, and They will not be Harmed by those who oppose them." 2. "A group of people from my Umma will continue to fight In defence of truth and remain triumphant until the Day of judgment." Who is this group? I thought it is salafi but then I found out salafi movement originated in the 18 th centuray in Saudi Arabia.

[@Deen_AlHaqq]

WHATTTT????!!!!

[@zakiyyah4534]

Ahlus sunnah wal jamah( hanafi Shafi maliki hanbali (

[@YoYo-xz6ql]

the salafi aqeedah has always been here. Read the books of the salaf, and you shall understand.

[@Muizz_Gamer_]

What's the salafi aqeeda?? Following the 4 schools or following their own opinions? Learning from the teachers are learning from books directly Did salaf believed that prophet ﷺ parents are kafir mazallah? Did salaf believed that prophets are dead in grave?? Did salaf denied that prophet ﷺ has knowledge of unseen given by Allah? Did salaf supported yazeed instead of imam Hussain radhiallahu tala ? ​@@YoYo-xz6ql

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

@@Muizz_Gamer_go listen to the salafi dawah you’ll know who they quote back to the 1st 3 generations and not blind follow one imam

[@dawudabdullaah6977]

The dua goes UP to Allah Allah said in Surah Baqara, "I see you looking up into the heavens." Fir'awn asked for a tower to be built so he could face the God of Musa (alayhi salam). He understood Allah's uluww. He is above the heavens in a manner that befits His Majesty.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

that's funny...you believe Firaun is a trusted source for your Aqeedah.

[@503amirulhakim5]

Yep, the best Akidah Scholars, Firaun....😂

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@503amirulhakim5 Firawn must have been like, "Dude this tower isn't tall enough! I told you it had to be higher than the clouds so I could see the Lord of Musa. I'm sure Musa's lord is just over that cloud over there, the one that looks like a throne." 😂 😂 😂

[@dawudabdullaah6977]

@@carimaelfarrah7800 NO!!! I'm just pointed out the fact that firawn knows more about Allah Highness than the asharis

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

​@@dawudabdullaah6977 brother, jokes aside, the Asharis do not deny Allah's Highness. Allah and His attributes are eternal. In other words they are not contingent upon the creation. so Allah's Highness is not directional, because direction is a part of creation. Allah was the most High before creation, and He is the Most High irrespective of creation. The Most High means transcendently greater than everything. Now, back to Firaun. Firaun failed aqeedah 101 when he declared himself The Lord Most High. (79:24) This is just further proof that Firaun does not know what the Most High means, and it is also proof that he did not understand Allah's uluwa, as you claimed. And it proves that uluwa is not as you have claimed. Because Firaun was on earth and calling himself the Most High. So it does not mean directional High above in the heavens, as you claimed. The scholars of tafseer say his claim that he was the Lord Most High, meant he believed he was the maximum supreme authority.

[@Ash-Shura]

What About Abu hasan al-ashari (رحمه الله) saying at page 438 and 439 that this hadith is evidence that allah is ahove his throne, the tahqiq of saleh al-usyami, check it yourself and you will see.

[@MakeAw1shkid]

Where is this? Also what does he say in Arabic because that’ll be more authentic than some 90% (at best) English translation of his word.

[@mekkagifari6052]

Read fiqhul akbar imam abu hanifa, insyaallah it help you in understanding aqidah

[@faiyazkhan5970]

The authorship of this text is disputed.

[@mekkagifari6052]

@@faiyazkhan5970 i have read it, some wahhabism who disputed it, and i know many wahhabis make thousand of lie about many imam, and i have seen one of wahhabism professor make a fatwa "wudhu cancel because stepped on the cat's poop", so about wahabism, i just have one comment, it is "LOL"

[@rodjaibmanaleseg2264]

One of Allah's attributes is being Above all things even above the skies and above the Throne. Nothing can contain the Almighty. But to deny this is a heresy...both our intellect and the revealed scriptures agrees that the Divine is Above and beyond. So we pray facing the Heavens.. Allah is الأعلى al-a'la (the MOST high). The highest, the Utmost high.

[@abisinia04]

Thank you for taking this very controversial question.. my question is what is Allah telling us in Surat Al-Hadid?? هُوَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ فِى سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍۢ ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَى ٱلْعَرْشِ Where is Arsh??? Also what does it mean when Nabi Mohammed (SAW) when was describing his Ascension to Heaven , wasn’t he talking about ascending to Allah’s Arsh?? Would love to hear your comment or explanation.. thank you 🙏 ۚ

[@SafinaSociety]

Will pass that on. But this explains the verse you are inquiring about kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp6be4CEfdNmfpIsi=Z4p86HmVgpXQajcj

[@hamzanur4815]

@abisinia04 excellent question Allah is on his throne as the ayahs and hadiths clearly state. If anyone tries to convince you otherwise asked them for an authentic direct Hadith which they base their beliefs. Then ask for authentic statements of the companions then their students and their students.

[@playyourself]

@@hamzanur4815 وَنَحْنُ أَقْرَبُ إِلَيْهِ مِنْ حَبْلِ ٱلْوَرِيدِ وَإِذَا سَأَلَكَ عِبَادِى عَنِّى فَإِنِّى قَرِيبٌ ۖ

[@abisinia04]

@@hamzanur4815 Thank you for your comment and advise .. I would love to know the truth always.

[@abisinia04]

@@SafinaSociety Thank you .. Will watch it ..

[@aboeAimen]

Allah tabaraka wa ta3ala is above his throne

[@amir324]

The modern athari/hanbali does not say we believe in it without talking about it.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

Then they are not actually Hanbali/Athari....they are Salafi.

[@MJdrcopy]

SIR PLZ ANSWER THIS QUESTION. You said in Dua, there should be desperation. But then you also said in another video. That Allah will give you the thing you want, when you are in between of wanting it and not wanting it. So what should I do?

[@logicalson]

The qiblah of dua. ❤

[@yourstruly5706]

1st is to accept the word, deny the literal (outward meanings) and consign the meaning to God. That is tafweed. How does ine respond to those who reject reports like these since they're khabr ahad

[@SafinaSociety]

Whether ahad or mutawatir (like Quranic verses) the mutashabihat are all treated the same: interpreted viz-a-viz the muhkamaat. And if ahad, then it carries even less weight if its apparent meaning contradicts the muhkam.

[@Nawaf-qk9mu]

We don't deny the meaning, we say it is as it is without knowing the how "Al istiwaa maloom walkaiyfiya majhoola" "Istiwaa is known and the how is unknown"

[@yourstruly5706]

@Nawaf-qk9mu that would be problematic as the meaning is khalqi and Istawa has many meanings. That is where tashbeeh comes in. It would make sense if someone said we know what it means for creation as it is a created thing, but we don't know what it means for God as the literal doesn't befit God. Khayr, have a good day.

[@yourstruly5706]

@@SafinaSociety makes sense.

[@Nawaf-qk9mu]

@@yourstruly5706 That is not problematic. We use the same word in the ayah, without replacing it with another and without negating it's meaning, only saying that it befits his majesty. Allah truly istawaa ala al arsh as he said about himself, but we don't know how, and it certainly befits his majesty, and there is nothing like him so it is not the same istiwaa Ala alarsg as a human king would on his throne. Maintain the meaning and word of the ayah, without trying to metaphorize it and without liking its meaning to the creation. Istawaa is not istawla but it also not the istiwaa of a human. Just istawaa as it befits his majesty. قال الإمام مالك: الاستواء معلوم والكيف مجهول والإيمان به واجب والسؤال عنه بدعة. Imam Malik said: Istiwaa is known, the how is unknown, believing in it is obligatory and asking about it is innovation.

[@adnankassem8114]

the level of takaluf to distort the clear speech of the Prophet (S) is amazing. May Allah guide all of us.

[@deceasedposter]

Takaluf?

[@adnankassem8114]

@BlueRoBloxy Except for the frist 3 centuries of Islam where everyone literally affirms Allah is above the heavens and makes takfeer of those who reject it.

[@adnankassem8114]

@@deceasedposter Like they are going through alot of burdensome effort to interpret what the Prophet (s) said in a clear manifest and simple speech. And in their effort of jumping through hoops they end up distorting the simple meaning. The Prophet(s) asked her Where is Allah? She said Above the heavens. Easy peasy. These later schools say it is not allowed to ask the question Where is Allah. Even though the Prophet himself asked it. I have a lot of respect for both Imam al Nawawi and Qadi Eyad (may Allah have mercy on them) but they are from the later generations. And when Qadi Eyad says that everyone from amongst the muslims doesnt believe that Allah is above the heavens in a real sense but in a metaphoric sense - this is demonstrably wrong. The Imams from the Salaf sometimes explicilty say haqiqatan (meaning in a real sense). So there are Imams from before them and after them who say otherwsie.

[@samsingh6643]

@@adnankassem8114 -So where is heaven. Where was Allah before the heavens were created.

[@Bego-i8z]

@@adnankassem8114 ... don't hide behind " may Allah guide us ...all ?" if He can take care of You, it would be More Than Enough !

[@wajahatgilani]

Here we go, aqeedah brings out the worst in our Salafi brothers (not Athari brothers)

[@KeithWatney-vv2cf]

sunni Muslims accept every statement of Quran what we reject is deviant interpretation of statements that likens Allah to his creation if a statement is not explicit < mutashabihat>it should be interpreted with what Allah has negated/ assigned for himself *laysa kamitlihi shay* nothing compares/or is like Allah, Allah speaks to us in human language and I'm *alive* so when Allah uses *Alive* to describe himself it cannot be understood in terms of my life, my life is created it has needs it exist in creation and it will come to an end, so if a person says "Allah has life but not like our lives" he must be able to explain the difference in the meanings or he will be stuck with the corporeal meaning/literal even if he says as it befits his majesty.

[@Nawaf-qk9mu]

وسمعت القاضي الإمام تاج الدين عبد الخالق بن علوان قال: سمعت الإمام أبا محمد عبد الله محمد المقدسي مؤلف (المقنع) رحم الله ثراه وجعل الجنة مثواه، يقول: بلغني عن أبي حنيفة رحمه الله أنه قال: من أنكر أن الله عز وجل في السماء فقد كفر. قال عبد الرحمن وحدثنا يونس بن عبد الأعلى قال: سمعت محمد بن إدريس الشافعي يقول وقد سئل عن صفات الله وما يؤمن به فقال: لله تعالى أسماء وصفات جاء بها كتابه وأخبر بها نبيه أمته لا يسع أحدا من خلق الله قامت عليه الحجة ردها. قال الإمام ابن الإمام عبد الرحمن بن أبي حاتم الرازي حدثنا أبو شعيب وأبو نور عن أبي عبد الله محمد بن إدريس الشافعي رحمه الله تعالى قال: القول في السنة التي أنا عليها ورأيت أصحابنا عليها أهل الحديث الذين رأيتهم وأخذت عنهم مثل سفيان ومالك وغيرهما الإقرار بشهادة أن لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول الله وأن الله تعالى على عرشه في سمائه يقرب من خلقه كيف شاء وأن الله تعالى ينزل إلى السماء الدنيا كيف شاء. بلغنا عن أبي مطيع الحكم بن عبد الله البلخي صاحب (الفقه الأكبر) قال: سألت أبا حنيفة عمن يقول: لا أعرف ربي في السماء، أو في الأرض. فقال: قد كفر، لأن الله تعالى يقول: الرحمن على العرش استوى. وعرشه فوق سمواته. فقلت: إنه يقول: أقول على العرش استوى، ولكن قال لا يدري العرش في السماء أو في الأرض. قال: إذا أنكر أنه في السماء فقد كفر. رواها صاحب (الفاروق) بإسناد عن أبي بكر بن نصير بن يحيى عن الحكم. حَدَّثَنِي أَحْمَدُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ الدَّارِمِيُّ، قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ أَبِي يَقُولُ: سَمِعْتُ خَارِجَةَ، يَقُولُ: ” الْجَهْمِيَّةُ كُفَّارٌ بَلِّغُوا نِسَاءَهُمْ أَنَّهُنَّ طَوَالِقُ، وَأَنَّهُنَّ لَا يَحْلِلْنَ لِأَزْوَاجِهِنَّ لَا تَعُودُوا مَرْضَاهُمْ وَلَا تَشْهَدُوا جَنَائِزَهُمْ، ثُمَّ تَلَا {طه * مَا أَنْزَلْنَا عَلَيْكَ الْقُرْآنَ لِتَشْقَى} إِلَى قَوْلِهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ {الرَّحْمَنُ عَلَى الْعَرْشِ اسْتَوَى} وَهَلْ يَكُونُ ‌الِاسْتِوَاءُ ‌إِلَّا ‌بِجُلُوسٍ حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ خَلِيفَةَ، عَنْ عُمَرَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ: إِذَا جَلَسَ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى عَلَى الْكُرْسِيِّ سُمِعَ لَهُ أَطِيطٌ كَأَطِيطِ الرَّحْلِ الْجَدِيد قال صالح بن أحمد بن حنبل: قال أبي: وحدَّثَ وكيع بحديث إسرائيل، عن أبي إسحاق، عن عبد اللَّه بن خليفة: “إذا ‌جلس ‌الرب سبحانه على العرش”. فاقشعر زكريا بن عدي فقال له وكيع -وغضب-: أدركنا الأعمش وسفيان يحدثون هذه الأحاديث لا ينكرونها Very clear what the first 3 generations and the great fuqahaa think about who denies Allah is fi alsama'a.

[@mdkhan3928]

No need to make unnecessary ijthaad then.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@sparephone8228]

Isn't there a verse in the Qur'an which is similar? As Muhammad Asad puts it, God is not bound by space and time.

[@Mahdhdosonnsbhhehdhd]

The 1st opinion “I.E. tafweed “ is not only the hanbali way which is a minority ; it is the Maturidi way and also the less popular opinion in the ashari

[@AkiimboGaming1]

One thing I find interesting about the narration is the question : where is your lord in stead of ‘who is your lord’. Allualam what the implications are but I just find that interesting.

[@Haseeb.M]

the question seems relevant for the situation. The girl being questioned is mute. I don't think she could answer "who is your lord". The purpose of questioning here seems to be to identify her islam or idolatry. Idols were on the earth

[@cjchris8317]

@@Haseeb.M Where does the hadith say she's mute? Why are you making stuff up?

[@Anonymityfan]

I don't think anyone believes Allah swt is IN the sky, some believe that Allah swt is above the sky.

[@sameerbhol8950]

Subhanallah

[@shenasi1030]

السلام عليكم I have a simple question, how can the so-called salafiyyah movement pretend to follow the madh-hab of Imam Ahmad Ibnou Hanbal and say that Allah has a body and that he's located when Imam Ahmad himself have said : مَن قالَ أن اللهَ جِسمٌ لا كالأجسامِ كَفَرَ Meaning : "whoever claims that God is a body not like other bodies, has still disbelieved "

[@darcylicious22]

Salafis do not ascribe a "body" to Allah (subhanahu wata'aala). Where did you get this idea from?

[@shenasi1030]

@@darcylicious22 They follow the same path as Ibnou Abdi l-Wahhab, isn't it his belief ?

[@shenasi1030]

They follow Imam Ahmad's madh-hab in matter of fiqh but they follow the belief of Mouhammad Ibnou Abdi l-Wahhab regarding the aqida

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

@@shenasi1030akhi we follow the 1st 3 generations go learn the positions of Ahmad shafi Bukhari sufyan bin thowri Abu hatim and many more, what was there aqida and read only 1 book of ibn abdul wahab to know the Shiekhs dawah instead of listening to propaganda about him he himself followed imam Ahmad

[@Ok44398]

He’s above the throne why jump to get a meaning you want?

[@Absolute42]

He is with you wherever you are. Why jump to a meaning you want

[@Jack-qz1lg]

​@@Absolute42the meaning is derived from the very next sentence and other similar verses (e.g. 58:7).

[@AlMulk21]

@@Absolute42 The salaf never said HE IS everywhere you Jahmi, he is above his throne and his knowledge is everywhere. Claiming he is everywhere is a statement of kufr and pure jahl.

[@ahmedelhaddad2145]

​@@Absolute42 Is he with you in the bathroom mate? This statement is Kufr seek knowledge and don't spread ignorance and deviance.

[@Absolute42]

@@Jack-qz1lg same with taha. The very next verse tells us what him being on the arsh means.

[@bornfaithotieno8246]

Surah Mulk affirms that Allah is in the Sama'a Is this to be rejected also? Subhanallah

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

A literalist interpretation is to be rejected, because it means being "in" His creation. There are many such verses in the Quran, that their literal meaning must be denied.

[@Spark12429]

@@carimaelfarrah7800 if Allah( swbt) wasn't literally above his throne bi dhaati then why did prophet( swaws) go upwards for mirage and who gave the prophet( swaws) 3 gifts in the night of mirage....

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@Spark12429 are you suggesting Allah is in a place that the Prophet ﷺ traveled to within the heavens? Are you suggesting Allah ﷻ is "in" His creation? You might want to freshen up your basic aqeeda knowledge brother. No worries, seekersguidance has free courses.

[@Spark12429]

@@carimaelfarrah7800 Am asking you.... if Allah( swbt) wasn't literally above his throne by his bi dhaati then why did he prophet( swaws) go upwards for mirage and who gave the prophet( swaws) the 3 gifts in the night of mirage... The throne is above the creation outside the creation and the 6 direction are finite not infinite... Just plz answer my question above...

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@Spark12429 Allah answers that question of why He took the Messenger ﷺ on the Isra wal Miraj. “Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our Signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing” [17:1]. “The heart belied not what he saw. Do you then dispute with him concerning what he sees (with the eyes)? And he saw him once again by the farthest Lote-Tree, nearby which is the Garden of Repose. At that time the Lote-Tree was covered with that which covered it. The sight was neither dazzled nor it exceeded the limit, and he saw of the greatest Signs of his Lord” [53:11-18]. SO He could see the signs of his Lord. Again, study aqeedah, ask yourself this simple question: where was Allah before He created the universe? Then ask yourself, Does Allah change if He is perfect? SO before there was a throne, He existed without a place...so He still exists as He always has, because otherwise you would be suggesting He is dependant on the throne for His existence.

[@DrWoofOfficial]

في السمو أي في العلو فوق السموات والعرش

[@hamidahmad5206]

What if someone worships the sun and moon, would they not point up? So much for that if they worshipped other than Allah they would point to something around them. SubhanAllah the mental gymnastics these types of people make to these clear cut Hadith. The qibla for dua is up that’s why we point up lol, comical at this point. Stick to the athar and what the companions explicitly believed and you won’t go wrong. May Allah guide the misguided.

[@Teeno86]

What "people" are doing mental gymnastics? You do realize that you're talking about the thousands of scholars of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamah, all the schools of thought, who learned directly from the Companions?

[@hamidahmad5206]

@@Teeno86 which companion ever had this explanation for this Hadith? Please share if not, fear Allah when you say “thousands” of scholars learned this from companions.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@hamidahmad5206 Before the creation of the Throne, and before the creation of the heavens and the earth, and before the creation of directions, there was Allah, may He be exalted, and there was nothing before Him, nothing after Him, and nothing besides Him, as al-Bukhaari (7418) narrated that ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I was with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) when some people from Banu Tameem came to him and he said: “O Banu Tameem, accept the good news.” They said: You have given us the good news; now give us something. Then some people from Yemen came in and he said: “Accept the good news, O people of Yemen, for Banu Tameem did not accept it.” They said: We accept it, for we have come to you to learn about the religion and to ask you how the matter was from the very beginning. He said: “There was Allah and nothing existed before Him, and His Throne was on the water. Then He created the heavens and the earth, and He wrote all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz.” Al-Haafiz (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This indicates that there was nothing besides Him: neither water nor the Throne nor anything else, because these are things other than Allah, may He be exalted. End quote. It is famously attributed to Ali ibn Abi Talib that he said, "Allah existed eternally and there was no place, and He is now as He always was." (Al Faruq Baynal Firaq) This is the aqeeda our Blessed Prophet taught, when He pbuh said, "Allah existed eternally and nothing else existed."

[@Teeno86]

@@hamidahmad5206 you have to ask a scholar, not me. You see we depend on scholars. the scholars are the inheritors of the Prophet, Peace be upon him. And all the four schools of thought came directly from the Companions. They passed on not just words/text but the correct understanding too. Even the Hadith/text are preserved through scholars. There is an answer for you. But the scholars will know best how to explain to you how the Companions understood the Deen and what they said and why it's proof for their positions. Just read the early and most popular Aqeedah books, like Aqeedah Tahawiyyah. The positions about these are all in there.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

Before the creation of the Throne, and before the creation of the heavens and the earth, and before the creation of directions, there was Allah, may He be exalted, and there was nothing before Him, nothing after Him, and nothing besides Him, as al-Bukhaari (7418) narrated that ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I was with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) when some people from Banu Tameem came to him and he said: “O Banu Tameem, accept the good news.” They said: You have given us the good news; now give us something. Then some people from Yemen came in and he said: “Accept the good news, O people of Yemen, for Banu Tameem did not accept it.” They said: We accept it, for we have come to you to learn about the religion and to ask you how the matter was from the very beginning. He said: “There was Allah and nothing existed before Him, and His Throne was on the water. Then He created the heavens and the earth, and He wrote all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz.” Al-Haafiz (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This indicates that there was nothing besides Him: neither water nor the Throne nor anything else, because these are things other than Allah, may He be exalted. End quote.

[@henryseva1]

I thought I. Nawawi was shafi'i? Help please

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

Shafii in fiqh, Ashari in aqeedah.

[@pepsicola5527]

It’s amazing and sad to see that people like this resemble the Christians in certain aspects of religion. The Christians believe that God is everywhere with His Essence and we have Muslims believing the same garbage because they see it as restricting Allah. Subhan Allah. If Allah affirms something for Himself, why can’t people accept this without likening Him to the creation? If Allah is everywhere with His Essence, it means He can be worshipped thru anything because of this presence. It means He’s in human being, animals, plants and worst of all in idols. Which entails He’s wrong for telling us not to worship anything other than Him. Ask yourself this, the Quran is The Speech of Allah, why don’t we worship the Quran if He’s not only present in it, but it’s His actual Speech? Allah can do anything but He won’t do that which goes against His Majesty and Nature! Allah is not from His creation, not like His creation and far above everything they associate as partners to Him.

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

Abdullah ibn Nafi’ reported: Imam Malik, may Allah have mercy on him, was asked about the saying of Allah Almighty, “The Most Merciful rose above the Throne,” (20:5). The man said, “How is His rising?” Malik said, “The rising is acknowledged, its modality is unknown, and asking about it is an innovation. I see you are a man who intended evil with this question.”

[@ahmedelhaddad2145]

Allah is above his creation and above the throne. Sama' means elevation or everything above. This is pure ignorance and deviance listen to scholars not to anyone on youtube this is ash'arism a deviant group that corrupts the attributes of Allah and go against the belief of the salaf (predecessors) the first three generations that the Messenger peace be upon him praised.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

Ali ibn Abi Talib said "Allah existed eternally and there was no place, and He is now as He always was." Al Faruq Baynal Firaq, Imam Baghdadiy In other words, not in a place, not in a direction. This expression of Allah existing eternally and there being nothing else with HIM is from the Messenger of Allah SAS. In Bukhari he said, "Allah existed eternally and nothing else existed. "كَانَ اللَّهُ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ شَىْءٌ غَيْرُهُ،

[@MaSa-bp5qe]

@@carimaelfarrah7800 Right. You believe in a non-existing God.

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@MaSa-bp5qe is that really the best you could come up with? Why bother to even post such a ridiculous comment.

[@MaSa-bp5qe]

@@carimaelfarrah7800 where is God?

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@MaSa-bp5qe The question doesn't apply to GOD. Only created things have locations.

[@abubakr2981]

Whys the hat come off ? Becoming more frequent, you look good kn front of camera with the Hat

[@BilaalSaud]

Assalamu Alaikum Usthaz 👑

[@kennedycornermuse3283]

Jazaika Allah

[@ebrahimi44]

The reason why the slave girl said Allah(sat) is in the heaven is based on he knowledge.This does not mean Allah( sat) is in the sky.

[@hamzanur4815]

The slave girl is our role model because the prophet attested to her iman. The evidence of this our more than can be counted. dorar.net/aqeeda/749/%C2%A0العلو-والفوقية here’s just a few. Bring anyone, I mean anyone from the salaf that did taweel (manipulated the meaning to fit what they learned from philosophers) ahlusunnah don’t get into the how. But the meaning is clear as day even a slave girl could understand the meaning. Allah did not reveal this to us clearly in Arabic to confuse us. He also tasked his messenger with explaining the religion to us not الجهم ابن صفوان nor بشر المريسي nor ابن كلاب

[@Hellfire_is_real]

👍👆 EXACTLY 💯

[@yojan9238]

"...Those who have perversity in their hearts, they follow the mutashâbihât âyât seeking discord and searching for unbefitting meanings based on their delusions... "- al-Quran. If you don't want to do taweel, feel free to accept the hadith as it is without doing self interpretation that Allah living higher than the sky or Arsh, that's the popular Wahhabi aqeedah interpretation not Hanabilah. '...No one knows their true meanings except Allâh and those who are firmly rooted in the knowledge of the Religion...' Firmly rooted in the knowledge of the religion must have been the khalaf of Ash'ari and Maturidi ulemas, They are the majority, and they are learned ones wih the sanad of knowledge. Doesn't have to give their names, they are well known, only people who are misguided will blame the majority (al-jamaah). They are the reference for this deen, without them, where do you take your religion and the understanding of this religion? I don't take knowledge from Wahhabites, as they'are people who are cut-off from the sanad. Their understanding about everything, aqeedah, fiqh or tasawwuf are misleading, delusionals.

[@hamzanur4815]

@@yojan9238 They are not mutashabeh they are mukham. Allah either has 2 right hands as the prophet pbuh said or he doesn’t. He either laughs and descends and goes on the throne or he doesn’t. Al ashari was born in year 260 after the hijrah and was mu3tazily for 40 years of his life. Maturidi was born 238. Where does your ‘noble’ sanad go after that? What was the الإمام أحمد ..الإمام البخاري.. إسحاق ابن راهوية إمام مالك …الاوزاعي عبدالله بن مبارك ..الإمام الشافعي And the SAHABA upon????? Don’t just accept what your teachers taught you. Know it’s true source. Wallahi most of these philosophical shubuhat that have been thrown your way the Jews had corrupt their religion. Even the scholars I’ve quoted are simply quoting the Quran and sunnah believing in the meaning known to Arabs and not getting into HOW. Did the prophet not convey the message adequately to the point that we believe in what doesn’t befit Allah for over 250 years??

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

@@hamzanur4815 Brother, are you suggesting Allah changes? That when He descends He is no longer above the Throne? Do you see how silly it is to take that at face value? Allah's Messenger SAS, said in sahih Bukhari كَانَ اللَّهُ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ شَىْءٌ غَيْرُهُ، Allah was eternally and there was nothing else besides Him. No time, no space, no sky, no heavens, no direction. ALLAH IS AS HE ALWAYS WAS. He does not change.

[@hamzanur4815]

@@carimaelfarrah7800 yes of course he changes. To suggest he doesn’t change means he does no actions. Basically he did not speak the quran, he did not create anything etc. As for silly, yes the prophet feast behind him gave us plenty of Hadiths that make us silly. In fact in a Hadiths explaining how Allah showed his glory to the mountain, he used his thumb to point to his pinky Tip and said this amount. and when he was explaining that Allah’s all hearing all seeing he touched his ear and his eye. Again as we now always say because people don’t want to simply accept the revelation. We are not saying how the moment you imagine. Something you are imagine, imagining wrong as Allah said there is nothing like him. Finally, the issue you may have is you consider direction or place a creation. It is not if you are in front of me and then I turn you’re no longer in front of me did that creation die or is there something in front of me and there’s no such thing as a creation called or a creation called or a creation called or a creation called under. it’s just representative of location of one thing respective to another. As for a time in an authentic narration Allah said do not insult time for I am time I flip the night in the day. Saying how time affects or does not affect the Allah is engaging in the ‘how’. Hopefully, that answers everything. Please don’t take knowledge from somebody who starts the lecture by say oh …we should not accept Hadith as is or ayah as is. Rather somebody that relies on the salaf and how they understood the actions and attributes of Allah. If they’re not quoting somebody from before 250 Hijri 🚩

[@shuaibahmad2270]

Why not bring the statements of Salaf?

[@mdkhan3928]

Bye bye to praying to the dead then.😈🤷🏿‍♂️😏

[@AdamAhmed-l6o]

Allah said that he is above his throne, who are you to go against Allahs words? The Prophet sallalahu alayhi wa salam and the sahaba understood the verse that Allah is above his throne, do you know more than them? I urge all people to not follow deviant teaching like this rather stick to the path of the sahaba and the messenger sallalahu alayhi wa salam. You can find the sahabas interpretations and understanding of the verses of the sunnah and quranic verses like these in authentic tafseers like Ibn Kathir, Qurtubi and tabari.

[@bigboywasim]

Allah (SWT) also said he is closer to us than our jugular, he is time, he is light and everything but his face will be destroyed yet you don’t take the literal or apparent meaning.

[@Ghiyassudin]

Imam Qurtubi was an Ashari, Imam Tabari negated place for Allah, the way of the majority of the Salaf was Tafwid Al Ma’na.

[@justinkellymcbride9135]

Most of the past (the early) and later [theologians] said, 'When it is necessary to purify the Creator (al-Baaree), the Sublime, from having direction (jihah) and demarcation (tamayyuz), then from the requirements and necessary consequences of this, in the view of the generality of the past scholars and their later leaders, is to purify the Creator (al-Baaree) from having direction (jihah). In their view, He is not in the direction of above. This is because to them, when Allaah is designated with direction, this would necessitate that He is restricted to a place (makaan) and a confine (hayyiz). (Subsequently), a place and a confine necessitate (for Him) (such) movement and stillness that is related to distinction (tamayyuz), transformation (taghayyur) and new occurrences (Hudooth) . This is the saying of the Theologians (mutakallimoon, the people of kalaam). And the very first Salaf (may Allaah be pleased with them) never used speak with the negation of direction (al-jihah) and nor did they express that (negation). Rather, they, and all of them, spoke with affirmation of it (al-jihah) for Allaah, the Exalted, just as His Book spoke with it and His Messengers informed of it. And not a single one of the Righteous Predecessors (as-Salaf us-Salih) denied that He ascended over His Throne, in reality (haqeeqatan). And the Throne has been specified (with al-Istiwaa) because it is the greatest of His creations. And they (the Salaf) [stated their] ignorance of the how (kayfiyyah) of al-istiwaa, for there is no one who knows its reality. Imaam Malik said, may Allaah have mercy upon him, "Al-Istiwaa is known..." - meaning, in the language - "...and how (it is) is unknown, and asking about it is an innovation". And Umm Salamah, may Allaah be pleased with her, said the same. And this much is sufficient (on this issue) and whoever wishes more then he can refer to the relevant places in the books of the Scholars.

[@justinkellymcbride9135]

This is what Qurtubi said

[@googooboyy]

Someone doesn't have tolerance it seems, or has not learnt of difference of opinion. Nothing to do with Tauheed at all here. If Allah swt says he's above his throne, then he is and Allah knows best. Who are we to say his throne looks like the throne of a king or stoneage bully that our puny human mind imagines?

[@226Ahmad]

Allah mustaen

[@Somebody294]

Jazakum Allah khair

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

With all respect to imam nawawi he is not neutral, he is asheri

[@deFreijtas]

So what, the scholars that are opposed to taweel can be salafi, they are biased too. Everyone is and adheres to some kind of group/school of thought. Except if you listen closely to what a scholar without appealing to emotion or name calling says then you can get to the truth. The explanation the sheikh has given is based and eliminate the need for being harsh or calling names.

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

I took from salaf directly ​@@deFreijtas

[@zaks3144]

Ok so the argument about the person on the other side of the world pointing up in the opposite direction is a philosophical fallacy. Why dont you face the kaaba and then do a 360 and read salaah in the opposite direction you will still go around the world and face the kabaa on the opposite side

[@IbrahimKhan-ri6qx]

A 360 will not make you face the opposite direction

[@mycollections4068]

Allah is above everything simple as that...... No need to complicate anything to suit madhabs

[@Wassimsanchez]

In status - absolutely, but if someone said or believed that Allah is physically inhabiting a place above the creations, that contradicts the Qur’an in the verse the brother mentioned Surat Ash-Shura Ayah 11 ‏ليس كمثله شيء Meaning: There is absolutely nothing which resembles him (Allah) Everything besides the Self of Allah was created, so where it says what means “nothing resembles Allah” it is in reference to the creation. Right now I am seated above my chair, there is air above my head, below my feet there is concrete. There is a base on top of my table, so on and so forth. Above, below, left, right, in, and out is for creations. Allah existed before he created the places, with perfect attributes that befit him - so for someone to say Allah created the places and then changed to inhabit a place above them - this would be wrong. If something is perfect and will maintain its perfection, it won’t change - because anything that changes (in regards to perfection and imperfection) would go from better to worse or worse to better. That change wouldn’t occur for Allah who is already attributed with perfect Attributes.

[@mycollections4068]

@@Wassimsanchez Allah says in Quran ..... There is nothing like him ......full stop..... We as muslims just repeat what he Himself stated for Himself ....... He says in Quran He is above everything, then we say He is above everything without any interpretation of anything...... Just because Allah says He is above doesn't mean like us or we should imagine what above means ..... Similarly goes for different Attributes of Allah swt

[@fazillmirr]

​@@WassimsanchezAllah hears So do humans. Does that make Him like his creation?

[@azeez8399]

Shaykh Uthman al Khamees has a good explanation of these issues. I advise people to YT search in Arabic his name and expressions related to this topic to find those videos. بارَكَ اللّٰهُ فيكُم

[@kingmosesix432]

Any link plz brother

[@Abdullah-d1g8g]

He is a Wahhabi Salafi. Shaykh Shady is exactly explaining why al-Khamis is wrong!

[@yojan9238]

Is he a Sunni following mazhab?

[@Abdullah-d1g8g]

@@yojan9238 No. He is a Salafi and he contradicts what Shaykh Shady is explaining in the video.

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

@@Abdullah-d1g8gmost salfi:ahlul Hadith follow madhab, they are know to imam Ahmad bin humble

[@GarethBryant15]

Allah literally describes themselves as: "God-In-Heaven" & "God-In-Earth" Now, the Word "In" much like the Word "في": It doesn't mean "Within the Heavens", nor "Within the Earth". Via Asbāb-in-Nuzūl/Revelatory-Context, "في" means "على" "In" means "Above". Ironically, it's literally no different than/from when Allah states: "That-Book is Guidance for the Pious, because there's 0-Doubt within it." As per Asbāb-in-Nuzūl: "ذلك" actually means "هذا" "That" actually means "This" Even as far as how Allah describes Themselves existing above everything else which exists: Al-`Alī/The Ultimately-Above Al-Muta`āl/The Ultimately-Exalted Al-A`lā/The Most-High (Each of these are amongst the Asmā'/Names-Of-Allah) (Noble-Qur'ān: Chpt.2, V.2; Chpt.43, V.78-89; at-Tabarī; as-Suyūtī; Lisān-ul-`Arab: Lexicon of the Arabic-Language, ibn-Manzhūr) garethbryant.wordpress.com/2024/05/14/debunkingasharirhetoric/

[@AereForst]

“Themselves”? Allah only uses the magisterial plural when using the pronoun نحن or “We”. When referring to Himself in the third person He ﷻ always uses the third person pronoun هو or “He” and not “they/them”. So again, what’s with “themselves”? What does “as per asbab Nuzul” mean in this context to you? You literally gave no “asbab”. Asbabun Nuzul literally refers to situational or historical contexts for specific verses revealed, so there are always supporting Hadith documentation for when and why a particular verse was revealed. You brought none of that to bear in your answer. I believe you have a point to make in that regard, so Bismillah, go ahead and explain to us about the Asbabun Nuzul dimension to the prepositions you referenced. بارك الله فيك In your attached link you used the expression: “Dem Mothafuckas are Evil.” نعوذ بالله Brother, I’ve exchanged comments with you elsewhere on KZbin before and I’ve referenced similar language you’ve used in other online posts. What’s wrong with you? You represent the Deen yet post such language IN AN ARTICLE ABOUT ISLAM!? C’mon brother. Whatever value you bring just gets lost. Have adab.

[@GarethBryant15]

Muhammad (Peace be be upon them) stated: "Always speak Truth, even if it's bitter (even if it rubs People the Wrong-Way)." (ibn-Hibbān&al-Bayhaqī)

[@GarethBryant15]

Everything which I've detailed literally has a Revelatory/Linguistic-Source cited. So, what's actually your Point?!!!

[@GarethBryant15]

Yes...anyone whom imposes Unjust-Takfīr against a Fellow-Muslim is an Evil-Mothafucka. And, Ash`arīs (not exclusively) are known/notorious for imposing Unjust-Takfīr against Fellow-Muslims simply for being Non-Ash`arīs.

[@GarethBryant15]

You've literally proven that your Knowledge of English is mediocre, to say the very least. The Words "They" & "Them" are both Singular as well as Plural 3rd-Person Pronouns. garethbryant.wordpress.com/2022/04/04/pronounism/

[@qwertyuiop23916]

Why cant you stop using word slave ,its an insult for dean

[@beast33G]

How

[@DrWoofOfficial]

The insult is you don't know your deen

[@ryuusuk33]

You Ashaaris never learn May ALLAH guide you back to the true understanding of the prophet pbuh, his companions and the salaf

[@inzy786]

May Allaah guide you too

[@ryuusuk33]

@@inzy786 ameen

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

Before the creation of the Throne, and before the creation of the heavens and the earth, and before the creation of directions, there was Allah, may He be exalted, and there was nothing before Him, nothing after Him, and nothing besides Him, as al-Bukhaari (7418) narrated that ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I was with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) when some people from Banu Tameem came to him and he said: “O Banu Tameem, accept the good news.” They said: You have given us the good news; now give us something. Then some people from Yemen came in and he said: “Accept the good news, O people of Yemen, for Banu Tameem did not accept it.” They said: We accept it, for we have come to you to learn about the religion and to ask you how the matter was from the very beginning. He said: “كَانَ اللَّهُ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ شَىْءٌ غَيْرُهُ، There was Allah and nothing existed besides Him, and His Throne was on the water. Then He created the heavens and the earth, and He wrote all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz.” Because the creation of the throne did not change anything about Allah, He is now as He always was.

[@Sakajaweeeeuh]

the ash’ari and maturidis isnad goes back to the Prophet Peace be upon him, pseudo salafis chain goes back to abdul wahab in the 1700’s 😂 and you have the audacity to claim someone else needs guidance.

[@ryuusuk33]

@@Sakajaweeeeuh you have the audacity to write such an ignorant response with joking emoji like you did something smh

[@MrEast900]

Mr Shadee - asharism as a late development is problematic. I know your NJ boys poopoo anyone who points this out but you have to confront the truth. You guys doing ta’weel all over the place.

[@ashcomics13]

(to the ismailis and christians on the process of revelation and the uncreatedness of the quran)the prophet recieved the revelation as language which originated as illumination from Allah's uncreated endless oceans of knowledge. (To the anthropramorphic wahabi salafis)Allah swt is beyond capture and is unlike anything in creation, yet he is closer to you then your juggular vein in how your life is in his control and he is all encompassing over his creation the apex above the throne. (to the sufis and muhyiddinis)Allah is the real one and we are the unreal made real, our degree of reality is dependent and limited by Allah azzawajal who cherishes and sustains our existence.

[@etshedyemem]

This pointless discussion is dividing the ummah for nothing. Focus on more important things

[@cookies521400]

agreed

[@rajinhossain5742]

Aqeedah is an important part of the deen

[@carimaelfarrah7800]

It is important to not have anthropomorphic beliefs about Allah. It is obligatory for us to reject any likeness of Allah to creation, because of His statements: "There is nothing like unto Him." 112:4 "There is nothing comparable to Him." 42:11

[@HK-zu8cf]

Imam nawawi towards the end of his life retracted from Ashari ways he written a book on it

[@idreceghadie]

ok jahmi. nawawi is 6-7th century. why do ignore the salaf? there’s no ijtihad in aqeeda. ijtihad is a branch of qiyas and there’s no qiyas in aqeeda. who from the salaf did taweel of this hadith and the verses similar to it? they all brought ijma that allah is above the arsh

[@gharibdunya6748]

I totally lost respect for this guy !

[@muslimuddin3656]

Does he need your respect?

[@waressz]

No one cares

[@mohammadkhan8765]

So if Ar Rahman has not established himself on Arsh, then what Arsh? What is the point of it? If Allah is not above all, then where is he? Everywhere? in the toilet too? in the church? Sounds like Buddhism to me. This is the problem with the sufi philosophy lol it crumbles when confronted with Quran and Sunnah then you have to twist Quran and Sunnah to conform to your sufi beliefs.

[@ishaakolougbodi1656]

Direction does not apply to Allah just like a stone cannot be attributed with attributed with intelligence or stupidity.

[@mohammadkhan8765]

@@ishaakolougbodi1656 my Allah is above the arsh and thus above all creation , yours is in the toilet, in pigs, in dogs too. You can check Surah Taha Verse 5, it clearly states "Arrahmanu Alal Arsh Istawa"

[@IbrahimKhan-ri6qx]

Who said Allāh is everywhere with his essence and where in the video does it assert that? None of the three schools of ahlus sunnah wal jammah say this. You’re just wasting your breath arguing with yourself

[@Sakajaweeeeuh]

@@mohammadkhan8765 if your iq wasnt so low you would comprehend that istawa has multiple meanings, and when you study the Qur’an you study tafseer and you take from teachers who have a chain back to the Prophet. not 1 single sahabi will substantiate your wahabbi claims of physicality for Allah istawa in this context means subjugation.

[@jordanpetersonsarat]

Shaykh please be clear this is not a matter concerning the hanabilah/atharis this concerns the mubtadi'een wahhabis so please don't refer to them as hambalis because they are not muqallids or encourage taqleed of mazaahib "Nothing but facts"

[@cjchris8317]

This comment proves that you never bothered to read the book of the Salaf the first 3 generations. Read imam bukhari. Imam bukhari established that Allah is above his throne

[@jordanpetersonsarat]

@@cjchris8317 the salaf confirmed الرحمن على العرش استوى without كيف your English translation of it doesn't do justice to the Arabic and is not genuine to the Aqeedah of the salaf and it is confirmed not one salaf said that istiwa means sitting like the grandchild of taymiyah applied

[@cjchris8317]

@@jordanpetersonsarat You're refuting a claim I didn't make. You and I are literally on the same page. From what I understand from your comment is that you believe that Allah is above his throne without asking how, and that's exactly the position of Shaykh Ibn-taymiyyah and the salafu saalih , by the way

[@jordanpetersonsarat]

@@cjchris8317 the position of ibn taymiah is that Allah is sitting جالس on the throne

[@cjchris8317]

@@jordanpetersonsarat That's his position, but to be fair to him, he's stated that the sitting of Allah is not to be resembled to his creation. In other words, Allah is sitting on his throne in a way that befits his majesty. And he's getting this from some of the early generations, so it's not something he took out of his pocket. But I'm on the opinion that says we do not think that this word (sitting) should be used. Rather, one should say that He rose (astawa) over the Throne, and istiwa’ is to be understood as referring to ascending and rising. But if someone does use this word, which is narrated from some of the early generations, then he should not be denounced. Rather it should be said to him: It is not appropriate to say this in front of the common folk, because it may cause confusion for them, and they may interpret it in a manner that likens Allah to His creation. Thus, it is clear that this expression does not constitute disbelief; rather, it is an interpretation of the divine attribute of istiwa’, and is a different opinion concerning it. It is more appropriate to refrain from using this word sitting.