If Grant Fisher Didn't Run for a Year Could He Beat an Average College Runner?

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How fast could Grant Fisher run a 10,000m if he didn't train for a year?
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[@aaroneskelson1799]

Dude I love lets run. Every clip is like watching a married old couple fighting 😂

[@letsrunfast]

But at least like Jlo and Ben affleck fighting right?

[@davidminter8398]

You guys do remember in Olympics when ritz was only training 50% he didn’t break 31 mins in the trials and got dropped with 70 first lap at the Olympics.

[@yesno9374]

There's no way he could beat a sub-30 runner and it's not even close. The fitness flies off faster than people think, even for elites

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

It would be really interesting to see an experiment like that. I don't think any serious elite runner would try that, as that is a waste of potential, it would be so stupid to sacrifice a couple of your prime years (to recover back to your pre-hiatus shape would propably take a long time) But it would be interesting to see. What difference would one month with zero training do? 6 months? One year? I wonder what Kipchoge could do in the marathon with one year without a single training session (let's say he's allowed to walk, but no more than 5km per day) I think fitness declines pretty fast when you don't train, but it's obviously not a linear curve. There's also something called "muscle memory" I guess there's probably some "endurance/stamina -memory" as well. I think if an elite runner goes one year without training, and then get one month where they can work out, they would probably be able to do some really solid results.

[@Jcub1]

@@CarlFredrik-uo1cu Could do it with an elite runner who has been banned for doping

[@PerryScanlon]

If he lies in bed for a year or goes to the space station he wouldn't break 40 minutes but would break bones.

[@walterbortz355]

The whole issue hinges upon how you define “active lifestyle.” If he was doing massive cross training he would kick ass. If you confined him to bowling he would be vulnerable.

[@mastergoatee]

Weldon the voice of reason

[@weldonj]

Thank you for the support! I think when I was training within like 2 weeks of no training I’d go from 28 minute shape to not being able to break 30.

[@brianwhoreadsobjectiveinfo1122]

Good question! National high school 10,000 meter record holder Bill McChesney could not run all summer before his senior year due to injury, then won the Oregon State Championships! He said it hurt like hell but that the uphill sand dune runs that his coach Harry Johnson had them do the fall before that taught him a level of mental toughness that he drew upon heavily at that state championship. Age 44, I ran 8 minutes per mile for 18 miles, then had a career ending running injury. After eight years of no running, I got out of breath jogging 20 STEPS! After a few months of jogging, my first track workout was at 8:00/mile for 1/16th of a mile at a time & I was out of breath with a heart rate that was high for me.

[@squngy0]

IMO the biggest factor would be if you give him a few runs in the week leading up to the race or not. I don't think he completely loses his running fitness in 1 year, but going from 0 running to a race with absolutely no running before is going to be a big factor even without waiting for a year. Like, imagine you take even 1 month off from running and then the very first run you do is an all out 10k. Ouch.

[@luisbarraza9709]

For a whole year? No endurance training, 100% he loses on his 1st run back,

[@IRSoutreach]

That thumbnail is relatable haha

[@jameshegeman5660]

On the 1st day? No. He would be very short of the necessary enzymes and glycogen and mitochondria. 3 months after resuming training? Guaranteed. He already has all of the hard-to-build cardiovascular, connective tissue, and myonuclei attributes that take a long time to build, and those don’t really go away with detraining. (At least not in just a year.)

[@PerryScanlon]

To seriously answer these questions, look at research. The anecdotes about "no training" amazing performances are just lies.

[@HandelandJ]

No chance in hell for Grant!!! Obviously I’m not anywhere near Grants level, but I (mostly) stopped running for 3 MONTHS, and then ran an 8k, and I ran more than 5 minutes slower than I had the year before! I say mostly, because I was still running for about 20 mins per weak during those 3 months. Then I took an additional 2 months with NO running, and ran a mile - 1 min 8 seconds slower then what I could have run only 5 months before. I also was about the same weight - if I was heavier, it was less than 5 lbs. During both periods I was lifting, but all strength training, absolutely no conditioning or endurance work in the gym. It’s insane how fast you lose running fitness when you quit running / doing cardio work. Approx 1 min per mile after 5 months. Even if Grant loses it at half the rate I did, he is done for.

[@lean2281]

No chance little guy

[@JonathonGraves-qr3fb]

I think the question is will there be other competition? If it is a 1v1 Grant’s experience will get him the win. If they are in a competitive field then it could go to the college kid.

[@steveravnitzky6711]

This is the most ridiculous hypothetical but funny nevertheless.

[@dylanramilo6517]

unless he progressively develops amnesia or any physiological issue, and forgets entirely how to run - no way he loses, even if he is ur avg coach potato for a year lmao

[@notalot22]

No more AI crap please

[@letsrunfast]

What?! You think that’s not us talking? Oh the image of Grant in the thumbnail? How else we supposed to make him fat😂

[@notalot22]

@@letsrunfast photoshop u can do it i believe in u

[@161alden]

Certified hater here. The more I watch these specific talking heads, the more I'm convinced you guys don't actually understand the sport lol

[@letsrunfast]

@@161alden we’ve never run in our lives 🤣 Care to give specifics on where we are wrong?

[@marcumxc]

No way he loses 3 minutes in a year…Jonathon is the only one speaking sensibly here

[@jamesromano3288]

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