If Hans Becomes World Champion

[@csqpod]

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[@elonif4125]

Fabi always gives well measured intelligent takes while being humble. Seems like he is an overall great guy.

[@syed9986]

He finds the best move eventually

[@case6189]

Definitely 👍 smart dude

[@Frost_Byte_Tech]

Protect this man at all costs

[@marcox1185]

Imagine saying "just 2700"

[@TheSharingan32]

For my part im just 700 😂

[@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB]

@@TheSharingan32 just 70 for me, dang!

[@fadeyioluwaferanmi3948]

Well there are currently 34 2700s

[@unknown-unknown69]

​@@fadeyioluwaferanmi3948 34 out of 8 billion

[@localliver7244]

@@AntonioBarba_TheKaneBdamnit just 7 for me

[@Autonomous_Don]

Fabi is an objective dude Which is such a breathe of fresh air in the emotionally driven society

[@KDlearns]

Fabi is the realest

[@soakedbearrd]

Fab is a diplomat

[@12jswilson]

Hans has played a lot of chess since September under intense scrutiny and maintained ~2700 basically the whole time, sometimes slightly above, sometimes slightly below. Either he's exceptionally good at cheating even under scrutiny or he's 2700 strength. I'm guessing it's the latter

[@jackfiercetree5205]

I said, right from the start, his story about cheating to get his foot in the door totally makes sense. I really don't think it goes beyond that... I know how to stack cards. Not once have i done it while playing poker for money. I've cheated at cards, and created unbelievable hands, that weren't real, but once it was for keeps? Never. Not once, even a little bit.

[@jackfiercetree5205]

Also, he took zero steps to conceal his fraud... a sign that everything people have found, is as far as it goes. It was a means to an end.

[@ianwohlhieter9604]

@@jackfiercetree5205 Interesting, I hadn't heard that angle before. Did he ever say somewhere publicly that he was doing it to gain attention / interest / tournament invites? (I assume that's what you mean by "foot in the door")

[@jackfiercetree5205]

@Ian Wohlhieter he wanted to be playing against top tier players to actually experience "real chess".

[@jackfiercetree5205]

@Ian Wohlhieter people decided "once a cheater, always a cheater" and I think those people are wrong. I think a chess player utilized the movement of seemingly unrelated pieces, to improve his position... surprise surprise.

[@juans8356]

2700? Thats still super impressive, especially for his age

[@itskmillz]

It is. But unfortunately for him it will always be 2700* since we can only speculate on whether its higher or lower and not assume it's his actual rating.

[@yohanespaskal9352]

He's border 2700,he always dropped after reach those rank.

[@LeoStaley]

2700 is super grandmaster.

[@devadathans5506]

But cheating? In tournaments with money? That is not impressive for his age at all. And he did not show the slightest remorse in his apology, he was justifying his thievery appealing to COVID.

[@DexterMorphy]

Fischer was already the best in the world at the age of 16 …Paul Morphy was the best in the world after playing chess for only 2 years and Magnus, Kasparov where on top too at that ages to name only those one ..Hans didn’t do much achievements in chess compared to champions ..he’s mostly know because he’s a cheater.

[@FutureAbe]

It would be good for chess if Fabiano became world champion

[@giovannivannicelli]

I would love that

[@observemudau]

He would have been a world champion only if Magnus didn't challenge his sister at chess when he was younger

[@kunalsingh4418]

​@@observemudau for real. Fabi was clearly second strongest player for atleast 4-5 years under Magnus reign. Now though, it's probably Nepo. 2 consecutive candidate victories is nothing to scoff at.

[@kylen6430]

@@kunalsingh4418 to suggest who the #2 is would depend on format in my mind. I just don’t think Nepo is consistent enough for match play

[@kunalsingh4418]

@@kylen6430 yeah. The wc is pretty much the match to decide the official no 2 currently.

[@lollycopter]

I don't think Hans will be able to rely so much on opponents being suspiciously tilted anymore given that they know he bluffs in an atypical manner. Plus, now that he's much more well known, top players will be much more familiar with his style and be more serious against him. The competition in the 2700 space is a lot more crowded than at the 2800 level. It's one thing to claim that one is a 2800 player and another thing to actually reach rarefied air ahead of every other 2700 player who is just as determined.

[@angusshaw8255]

Only one person in the world is above 2800

[@cas6200]

​@@angusshaw82552 actually

[@krusbaer11]

​@@cas6200 no, only Magnus is above 2800. Ding and Nepo are just below.

[@seya_2]

​@@krusbaer11 He is the only one above 2800 atm but there are 15 players in total who've crossed the 2800 mark.

[@krusbaer11]

@@seya_2 correct, only one above 2800 atm

[@BREAKocean]

The king with a crown of beads

[@greatmnn3868]

Underrated 😂😂😂😂😂

[@francoperez2246]

Fabi is inteligent without being crazy or extravagant like the others sgms

[@MaxIronsThird]

Fabi always the logical voice in the chess world.

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

He just doesn't wanna get sued. 😂

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@jaideepshekhar4621 nah, he already said Hans probably cheated against Magnus.

[@vlnow]

Hans is ridiculously focused and 100% gunning for the top spot. I really think he has a chance.

[@PlguDctR-yb7mi]

Fabi's takes are the best.

[@p75517]

Magnus will return if Niemann becomes WC

[@dingledingle6896]

Gotta love fabi. Always 💯 objective.

[@CryOfTheLyrebird]

Fabi got that 2800 Logic

[@peterk960]

When people are offended, they exaggerate.

[@chriszablocki2460]

what if the world champion changes every year like a baseball season.

[@Aynemai]

That laugh was personal💀

[@prakritishobha6734]

exactly what i have been thinking since this whole drama started. i feel that he is actually a legitimate strong player but has cheated in games in the past. not only online, but over the board as well, and i can say for sure he is not a legit cheater, but someone who has cheated here and there occasionally, which is exactly why i feel it will be near impossible to know if he did cheat in his game against magnus.

[@jeffreyswartz9568]

There is zero evidence of any in person cheating and online, not for years. His case that he's being slandered is good because of these general, unsubstantiated opinions

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

​@@jeffreyswartz9568Yeah man, he had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA wtf he was doing. Sounds like a GM to me. 😂

[@MRBONES-xo1ku]

@@jeffreyswartz9568 he accepted cheating twice idiot after getting caught,zero evidence lol

[@thegorn]

Leave Brittany alone! I mean leave Hans alone!!11

[@Andrewthestagehand]

He probably has peaked. Somewhere between 2600-2700. Which is insane because i can't even maintain 2000. I just bounce from 1600- 1900

[@sachacek]

I think Hans has skill above 2400. Rest I leave for speculation 😂

[@omsofi1111]

10/10 podcast

[@niqwalshensemble9164]

He’s only a super-gm

[@sergemerto256]

It is true that it either is or isn't but the probability of both are not 50%🤔

[@drbastianac8252]

fabiano charisma

[@Amir-vp7di]

Hans needs to work his butt more to become world champion

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

😂❤

[@VectirR6]

Fabi just tell evidence like it's doesn't adf something to the conversation.

[@ahmetcanyazar3418]

2500 in he s good days

[@Studentofu]

Hans is the future

[@rxw5520]

Dude with clear glasses does not look well

[@kennywatchesstuff5429]

Fabi is so cool🙂

[@NiceDZNintro]

Why is levy talking bro is 2150

[@YEM_]

Do we have a link to the full discussion?

[@Gatapotata]

Pinned comment

[@vm9289]

where to find the complete podcast?

[@LeoStaley]

On this channel. You have to exit the shorts part of youtube to see it.

[@bergfe]

What Caruana mean is that he will not be world champion lol

[@amoldivo]

Maybe he will be Hans second in the future? 😂 Is this some sort of foreshadowing? 🤧🤣

[@jaydubbs3902]

Hans beat Magnus last time they played, Hans beat Hikaru last time they played, Hans beat Pragg last time they played, and Hans just beat Kramnik using the opening Kramnik is famous for against him😮. Go see what a poor sport Kramnik is and what he did and what an Alpha Hans was about it. Hans is a Beast! The smell of fear is strong in the chess world. Not one shred of actual proof. The bead thing was a joke by Elon Musk and the media just ran with the fake news as usual.

[@jaydubbs3902]

Someone explain to me how a 2700 at 20 yrs old would be dumb enough to cheat at a 100% clip...I smell BS and fear!

[@daytradersanonymous9955]

Will never happen.

[@amoldivo]

Tbh, regardless of what has been going on, I kinda wanna see Hans going for the top spots, not necessarily the word champion, but maybe the candidates tournament!! Hmmm maybe in the next 10 years? Because the field is currently dominated by players from Magnus's era... He'll be with Nodirbek, Gukesh, and Keymer, probably a few of my favourites greenhorns 😊 and we will sometimes see the analysis from current GMs (when they grow old) like the analysis of our beloved GM, Ivanchuk ❤ would be lovely!

[@RetroAiUnleashed]

A Chess Paradox, like Schrödinger's cat 😆experiment

[@viciousimpaler]

We'll call it the Hans' beads paradox

[@Mrdemon35]

Hans world champion ? Okay like I though delusionls didn't hit the chess world ?

[@jamesz9635]

he's 19 and already over 2700, he has as good a chance as any of the other juniors

[@coldCoders]

Obviously won’t.

[@isaacharton7851]

Real strength is 2300. Source: his chess streams where he didn't cheat.

[@albertopulido4267]

Not really, he crushed a WGM (around 2300 rated) with 5-1 time odds. I repeat, he crushed, not just a normal win, while using only 1 minute, which is barely impossible to cheat with that time. It shows he could be easily a 2600 in blitz and after knowing that, he could have 100 points more in classical just as it happens with players like Gukesh or David Antón. So you are wrong

[@amoldivo]

What you talking about bruh? His OTB is 2700, hows his online 2300? Lol

[@amoldivo]

​@@albertopulido4267well, WGM is just slightly above FM strenght, so I suppose around 2200~2300 OTB? So its not so fair if you compare the two 😂, but I agree with you on this one 🤧🤣

[@leerobbo92]

Hans is very clearly a strong GM at minimum. I've never seen anyone question that: only his absurd accuracy in select games. Usually important ones.

[@ifbfmto9338]

I agree with Fabi completely (and his opinion is worth drastically more than mine obviously) Hans clearly cheated online, and it wasn’t just random games it was in the pro chess league too That’s serious and I’m not downplaying that in any way BUT is there any clear evidence he’s cheated over the board? Nope He’s given some extremely bizarre and honestly, suspicious interviews But at the end of the day if you CAREFULLY go over all his games with the computer (and you have to be a good enough player to even do/understand this) then yes, he’s had some impressive games but so do plenty of other players at his level There isn’t a single OTB game of his I’ve seen where I concluded, after carefully reviewing it, oh yeah that’s definitely a cheater So it’s an entirely possible, and likely outcome, that yes he’s cheated online in serious events (this is simply beyond dispute) but he very well may not have cheated OTB either 🤷🏼‍♂️ We don’t know for sure and we may never know, but that’s what I think is most likely, and that’s also what Fabi and many other strong players are saying (and again their opinion is worth drastically more than mine, obviously)

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

The problem is not even the moves he played. Its that he had absolutely ZERO understanding of the positions he went for. He confidently recited a losing line. 😂

[@John-jt4dj]

I like Hans. His chess is different.

[@Martill3]

Based Fabi 🫡 agreed!

[@AK-pq3cw]

I think he is 2650 at his peak.

[@amoldivo]

He had reached 2700 before... Not sure about Hans current rating though...

[@lugga8241]

Man the chess 960 guy is always here with some stupid comments

[@vannersp]

I don't see 2700. Not unless super grandmasters are all 2950+ He seems more 2400 - 2500 to me

[@SeanMaddenBMX]

To you Not to facts

[@jakeb_91]

I mean someone who significantly better than you and knows what it’s like to be in that rating just told you Hans is probably 2700. Weird to think you’d know better than Fabi would isn’t it?

[@frescoclean]

Well they’re both right because of course it is in the middle. Hans is still a very good player, but he also blatantly cheated multiple times. Being exposed also drove him to work harder and improve. But Gotham is still sort of right it’s either he’s a cheater or he’s not, and its the first one. It’s 100% statistically proven that Hans cheated, even though he’s still a top 40 level player.

[@tengu8560]

He cheated online 4 years ago 0.01% of his games … yk teenagers grow up

[@leerobbo92]

He's also had 15 or so different competitive over the board games that showed 100% computer accuracy within a 2-3 year span, including a couple of endgames. Carlsen has about 3 in his entire career, and IIRC they were all less than 25 moves. The odds of anyone having that many games - especially games with more than 30 moves, of which Hans has several - are simply beyond the bounds of reality.

[@tr4nnel752]

Caruana with the only correct take. Starting from the cheater saga I started seeing Levy as a clown. He only reported on it, without taking a stance or giving any valuable insights. Now almost everything he does irritates me. His click baiting and arrogance are unbearable.

[@cwjalexx]

hans has about the same chance i have to become the world champion...which is to say no chance

[@SeanMaddenBMX]

Hes 19, hes the new gen, not old gen like fabi and magnus He has a chance

[@cwjalexx]

@@SeanMaddenBMX i don't think he has a chance. he's done a great job reaching 2700, but the difference between 2700 and the best player in the world is massive. i think the fact that he's already 19 and had to struggle to get to where he is makes world champion unrealistic. by struggle i mean compared to other top 10 or so players who do have a shot at the title. i also don't see what being new gen has to do with it...the players you listed have had access to strong engines for the bulk of their chess career. believe me, I would love to be wrong...i think it would support my strong belief that 'talent' is largely overrated and that hard work is largely responsible for results. if he cracks top 10 i'll consider that enough for me to be wrong.

[@SeanMaddenBMX]

@@cwjalexx everyone had to struggle to get to 2700, and i said hes new gen cause hes liekly only 2700 now cause he hasnt aged enough to beat it

[@cwjalexx]

@@SeanMaddenBMX he's 19 though, wei yi crossed 2700 at 15, firouzja and gukesh at 16, and many by the age of 17. Niemann's age isn't the reason he only just broke 2700. i think niemann struggled more than top GMs. On the fide site you can see his rating at every month and how many games he played. When he reached IM at 2400 it took him over 2 years of many games played to reach GM, that's unheard of for a top player. All the top players pretty much coasted to the GM title.

[@josephkeres4604]

Took a while for everyone to see thru all of Magnus’ BS. Hans may have cheated online to get casual blitz games against stronger opponents, but he has never cheated OTB. Move the fk on.

[@leerobbo92]

Dude, he has 15+ 100% accuracy games over the past 5 years according to Stockfish, some of which included endgames. Magnus has about 3 in his whole career: all 30 moves or less. The top 100 haven't had that many between them in that time: quite possibly every OTB rated player in the world hasn't had that many perfect games in that time. Experiments at the LHC require a certainty of 99.9999% before a discovery is confirmed. Hans, from a statistical perspective, meets that accuracy for being a statistically confirmed cheat OTB. That's how absurd it is.