If Human Men Experience Medical Problems After Losing Their Testicles, Then Why Don't Our Pets?

[@TodayIFoundOut]

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[@jenniferbrdar4605]

You're mostly correct in livestock unless you're talking about pork. Intact boars are prone to what is known as boar taint which shows up in the mature boar carcass. Prepubescent boars are fine, but the mature boar has very little value selling for as low as .03 a lb at the salebarns and the meat winds up in highly spiced meat like pepperoni. Only a small handful of plants process mature boars.

[@justinmartin4662]

Remember that inconvenient truth that the ice caps would melt in 2013 if we didn’t curb carbon production with carbon credits? Only for the legislation to fail and instead of the ice caps melting like the scientists predicted they multiplied in size? Right about the time global warming turned into climate change, because the world started cooling again. So they’ve been wrong, about everything, but nobody seems to even be paying attention. Like religion..

[@steveshoemaker6347]

OMG...OUCH 🥵🥵😥🥴😵‍💫😭👎

[@OpusBuddly]

@@justinmartin4662 Correct. During the Roman occupation of Britain the climate allowed them to have vineyards. During the 1970s the doomsayers predicted global cooling and a new ice age. There's money to be made from fearmongering about climate and Simon just took a bagful of cash from Wren.

[@Wooargh]

I had to study the original carbon footprint book when I was doing my degree. Environmentalists manage to come up with some proper bullshit, but few of their lies are as manipulative and evil as carbon footprints.

[@tncorgi92]

Proud of you Simon for tackling this issue. It really takes balls.

[@jlopez665]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheWhiteTrashPanda]

Well played

[@leadingman9322]

Badum tis!🥁😂😂👍

[@jlopez665]

@Graeme Tucker “remember it takes balls to not have balls” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jackm2293]

lol

[@mistaree8394]

I had my testes removed for medical reasons at 3 days old. When I was in my teens I had hormone replacement shots but I stopped in my early twenties, in part because it gave me significant mood swings. Many of the side effects mentioned are very apparent for me. I do have a surprisingly deep voice though.

[@ickalo]

voice deepening is generally a very permanent effect of T but a lot of other effects aren't (I have heard of some people's voices "reverting" *a bit* once they've gone off T but I dunno)

[@J3diMindTrix]

Oh great, maybe you can answer my question! What I would like to know, is: Wait a minute how is 'testosterone responsible for stopping growth'? I thought testosterone was very much responsible FOR growth! Especially muscle growth? Bodybuilders use it as a hormone/ steroid? It is banned in athletics for that same reason? So how can it be stopping growth? More info please! A follow-up vid from TIFO would be perfect... uness, do you happen to know?

[@ickalo]

@@J3diMindTrix - testosterone is responsible for a lot of muscle growth always but in tandem with estrogen it usually closes the growth plates of your long bones near the end of natal puberty

[@AirQuotes]

I know someone who only has one testicle. Luckily for them the surgery happened as an adult so they didn't suffer any long term effects. He never wears tight pants though and guards his last ball with a vengeance. Which is fair enough.

[@SevCaswell]

@@J3diMindTrix the production of testosterone influences/stops the production of human growth hormone, and it is the latter that causes growth in height. So without testosterone the body continues to produce human growth hormone long after it normally would.

[@maddiejoy6619]

Hormones are so important. I used to take a testosterone blocker to help with PCOS symptoms. My doctor told me I had to make absolutely sure I didn't get pregnant on it because it would make a male fetus develop incorrectly. It would be medical malpractice to allow the medication to be taken during pregnancy. I've been off the medication for years, which is good because so far I've only ended up pregnant with boys 😅.

[@Solace6428]

Sorry to ask such a personal question, but how was your experience on testosterone blockers? I'm trying to get onto them for PCOS as well (it's an uphill battle, but I'll get them eventually), and am trying to ask around a little to get a more realistic idea of the effects. What effects did you notice from it? Were any changes more extreme than you expected? Did it come with any downsides? Feel free not to answer if these questions are too invasive, but should you answer I will be incredibly grateful for your responses. Thank you!

[@maddiejoy6619]

@@Solace6428 I don't mind! I was on spironolactone, which is also a blood pressure medication (although I wasn't taking it for that). The only slightly difficult side effect I noticed was lower blood pressure, which could make me feel dizzy sometimes. That only happened once or twice over about two years. It changed my body hair texture significantly. I could see a stripe in my hair where I'd started taking the meds. The hair was a totally different color and texture below that stripe. I don't feel like it did anything for acne or other symptoms, but hair growth was the main concern for me at the time. I ended up stopping the medication because I met my husband and I figured it was better to deal with hair growth than potentially disfigure a male fetus 😅. It's a good thing too because I got pregnant with a boy shortly after we got married.

[@grobanite4ever85]

​@@maddiejoy6619I was just prescribed that to help me for my facial hair

[@atashgallagher5139]

They'll be very healthy thanks to the extra testosterone. A small silver lining I guess. Ps. Not a doctor, not sure entirely what effect that would actually have on male children.

[@Samu2010lolcats]

@@atashgallagher5139 Not really, having more testosterone than normal during pregnancy is correlated to an increase in risk of the child developing autism.

[@scottgates4979]

What happened to Alan Turing was a tragedy. The "pardon" was a poor shadow.

[@planet_69]

It happened to thousands of people, are their cases not tragic too?

[@scottgates4979]

Yes.

[@erraticonteuse]

@@planet_69 Yes, but what happened to Alan Turing is a tragedy for all of us. Who knows what he might have accomplished with computing or artificial intelligence later in his life?

[@cautarepvp2079]

@@erraticonteuse Why couldn't he just pretend to have a wife and everything would have been normal. Why do people reveal such things..

[@macman1469]

@@cautarepvp2079 His lover told the police what they were doing .

[@TheEvilCommenter]

Simon is really getting a lot of milage off the "hands-behind-head" thumbnail.

[@ianbeel4887]

With a bottle of Beard Blaze, milage isn't an issue...

[@scottishcelts2040]

Might be getting a blowy

[@apexgamer4051]

I only count 15

[@eddiefire8423]

Thumbnail meta is so weird in general

[@erykguchowski8149]

That's good, back of his head still seems to be itching for knowledge.

[@bvbxiong5791]

castration in China was different. the eunuchs actually had their whole members removed. it was much more dangerous than just having your testicles removed and not everyone survived the procedure.

[@DaveTex2375]

African slaves sold in the middle east were castrated the same way. It explains a lot if you understand how the slave trade went on far longer there than in the U.S. but there isn't a large population of blacks in the middle east vs America.

[@sendmorerum8241]

I've read about it. Those who didn't survive, died in agony; it was horrible.

[@DocBree13]

☹️

[@edwardcardozo8325]

They probably still do to this day with Uyghurs

[@alessiodecarolis]

Right, it was a sort of "standard" procedure for enemies' male children, one of these poor souls was the famous Admiral Zheng He. In the West this barbaric horror was forbidden by Napoleon's laws.

[@blaze0rama]

In the medieval medical text, The Trotula, it was stated that the city of Salerno was a place for clean, well healing castrations. Salerno was an enclave of European, Middle eastern and African physicians. This created a beneficial exchange of information that built upon many more medical treatises than Galen. While Trota of Salerno was a female physician and the texts deal mainly with women's medicine, it has some interesting insights on men and male diagnoses, because women would often ask question (even in the 12th Century) of a doctor that their husbands/fathers/brothers/male friends would not.

[@michaelhowell2326]

My dad has always called castration brain surgery. With steers it makes them stop thinking about ass and start thinking about grass.

[@simon_blackquill]

HAHAHAHA, that's brilliant!

[@ashleytaylor994]

It’s good to have sex drive it makes you work harder

[@ImAgentK]

​@@ashleytaylor994I disagree, i hate it, its miserable having a sex drive, especially if you struggle with women.

[@ashleytaylor994]

@@ImAgentK why don’t you get jacked? Maybe TRT

[@xrunningincircles]

Simon, talking about castrating children: "but let's get to what really matters, THE VOICE"

[@seanleith5312]

I don't care climate change, ok?

[@TriaMaxwell]

Eh, less people is good. Neutered kids don't make kids

[@MissBlueEyeliner]

_AMIRITE PETER!?_

[@bullzebub]

@@MissBlueEyeliner Always!

[@TriaMaxwell]

@@MissBlueEyeliner No.

[@cleverfoxcrochet]

Today I learned that young castrated male humans grew taller. This has been been known with horses for a long time and only recently acknowledged in dogs. Removing the sex hormone prevents some growth plates from fusing. Let some bone grow longer yet thinner than they should

[@Nylak-Otter]

It's definitely been known for a long time with dogs. Large hunting molosser breeds would be desexed early so they would be taller to have more height on their massive prey. Bulldogs and pit bulls that need a low center of gravity to control livestock are rarely desexed. My own pit bull that had to be neutered at 4 months for legal reasons ended up being a head taller than projected, which made him much less efficient at his work (disaster/rubble search and recovery).

[@lizardfishbird]

I had a severe hormonal condition that caused low amounts of sex hormones in my body in my late teens and early 20s, and I ended up continuing to grow until about age 25. Now I know why, I guess

[@spiritmatter1553]

@@Nylak-OtterI looked it up and now I know what molosser breeds are. Thanks.

[@omniscientbarebones]

My testicles had a problem with “dropping” and began retracting into my legs when I was young. I had surgery and maybe some effect of this is that I have lower Testosterone levels. But they do work.

[@widodoakrom3938]

Interesting

[@AB-xu8ef]

I get vasectomies for my male dogs. So they are sterile, but develop normally and do not have the associated health and behavioral problems that come with full castration. They also have OSS for females, Ovary Sparing Spay, which is the equivalent.

[@kevinr.3542]

I bought my dog some doggy condoms. He ate them

[@Neenerella333]

A B: Huh. Seems like it could be less invasive and expensive as well. In my anecdotal experience, the typical male neutering reduces territorial marking and aggression. Not all dogs, fixed or not, have these behaviors, so this vasectomy option seems like a positive. In females, however, do you mean like tubaligation in humans? Because if there are ovaries and a uterus, heat(estrus) can still occur. Would they still have to wear a diaper when in heat? This is an interesting topic.

[@EK1H]

Go to a racing Greyhound vet, normal vets may say not to do vascectomy for your dog because they don't know how. They will be cheaper too.

[@elisabethandersen1102]

I think the reward of not having to deal with pyometras is worth spaying females

[@annedymock2850]

​@@Neenerella333It may require a bit more skill to give a vasectomy rather than castrate. There is probably not much difference in skill for a spay. Both would have quicker recoveries. Tibal ligation will not stop a female dog going on heat... and all the problems with romantic callers😂. There is a small failure rate for vasectomies and tubal ligations. But yes I would much prefer this to neutering for the health and development of my dogs

[@cocacola4blood365]

"....that castrated men consistently held powerful, social positions, often with great political influence. Furthermore, they were often recognized for their loyalty, managerial style, wisdom and pedagogical skills. Also in some cultures they were considered the object of sexual desire for males, females or both and not consistently celibate or asexual as many think today. Alright, so let's talk about animals." Love the transition!

[@dennisexplorer487]

good point indeed, I wouldn't know, but I don't see much, because I don't go out alot, except lately, if I have money I like looking for that treasure at a thrift store or find a good bike on sale. However I am a liitle bit of a prepper, so I am ready to go into the hills or mountains even at my age. I'll be 65, and I will be getting old age pension, I am honestly surprizesd that I made it this far. I have been deported from Texax for drug offenses, That was the last time I was in serious jailtime as well. Some never learn, but I managed to get into trouble and I learned the hard way but I did learn., I just realized that I have to work tomorrow so I"ll have to let you go.

[@redmi9834]

Fooling around with the court eunuchs was often levelled at the Princes of China before they married.

[@dominicwaghorn6459]

Alan Turing never lets me forget that the past was the worst

[@JaguarBST]

That was quite recent too

[@jmchez]

“The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.” ― L.P. Hartley, The Go-Between

[@ardenalexa94]

@@jmchezyes they did, but it’s still very sad and inhumane he went through that just because he was gay.

[@redmi9834]

​​@@ardenalexa94 I read that gay men in London up to the beginning of the nineteenth century were put in the pillory at Charing Cross and the public were allowed to throw all sorts of things at them including faeces, stones and animal bones. Some were blinded and some had serious head injuries. No doubt some of them died.

[@deusexvesania1702]

11:46 'You're a hero, you saved countless lives and will forever be remembered!' 'I can't wait to tell my boyfriend.' '...your what now?'

[@Zerasad]

Not sure how I feel about a website that aims to highlight people's individual carbon footprints while companies pollute with reckless abandon...

[@-MarcusAurelius]

Not so fun fact: the idea of an “individual carbon footprint” was heavily promoted by BP in the late 2000s as a way of pushing the burden of climate change on the individual instead of companies/governments. The reality is no amount of individual action is going to solve climate change, there needs to be government intervention.

[@ALegitimateYoutuber]

@@-MarcusAurelius yelp, it's just one of many marketing campaigns to shift the blame. And god damn, did these campaigns work.

[@lilacdoe7945]

@@-MarcusAurelius Let's not forget about the fortunate side-effect. What is the best way to reduce your carbon footprint? Buy an electric car, buy energy efficient appliance, renovate your home with new windows and insulation. Got to love the idea that fixing climate change depends on you consuming even more stuff 🤦‍♀️

[@moose101woods7]

@@-MarcusAurelius we are already going down that road and it's going to be disastrous in so many ways, hope you like communism and walking, lots of walking, climate change hasn't even been proven, just pushed by a fringe scientific minority and pushed into the mainstream by the political left.

[@J3diMindTrix]

Yes isn't it something like 95% of carbon is produced by 10 companies. In any case these massive corporations will not do anything to reduce their carbon footprint unless legally obligated. And that will only come via lawsuits brought on by very well-funded campaigns, that can afford very good lawyers. As those megacorps have a team of very good lawyers that work just for them. And many repeated cases brought against them, as no doubt they will push back heavily, at least to begin with. But since the fact of the matter here is that they are, objectively speaking, in the wrong, and the truth is that they pollute far more than any person or even country of people ever could; with enough pressure and cohesive action from passionate groups determined to do what can still be done to rectify the climate catastrophe, as let's face it our governments just aren't going to do enough, if anything at all, even if they claim to; there's a chance we may be able to act in time to force their hand. Much like the DuPont scandal and how the local population of Flint had to come together to stop the rampant pollution of the giant company that was giving them cancer, knowingly, lying about it for years, and had to be forced in a court of law to not only admit it but offer any form of compensation to the victims. These are evil entities we're talking about here and they have to be made to do what is right, there is nothing other than legal action and legally binding court verdicts with consequences that will actually affect them that will get them to do that. Conscientiousness/ morality/ having a conscience just doesn't apply here; as we saw with DuPont they would rather kill dozens, if not hundreds, if not an unlimited number of people just to avoid the truth getting out.

[@davidknell9676]

I remember reading men who have there testis removed live an average of 5 years longer. Since then others studies have shown even bigger numbers of improved longevity. Testosterone can be stressful. Despite this I have decided to keep mine well protected

[@A.Martin]

women live longer too although its not as significant a gain in life as males do.

[@A.Martin]

@@davidknell9676 yea the life span of a male and female both with their bits removed (as a child) is near enough the same. They will also look similar, similar muscle mass, skeletal shape etc. the female will also be significantly taller, same as the male.

[@superfisto]

flies with clipped wings live longer too

[@Murkoph]

@@superfisto Are you saying you've mastered testicular flight?

[@Nunyo-Bizznez]

This is because testosterone is actually bad for your heart. There’s a reason the males have drastic rates of cardiovascular diseases, and it’s the leading cause of death in men. Notoriously bad for your heart and good for your breasts. Even though it’s called an androgen and thought of as a masculine Hormone, testosterone is actually present in males, females and intersex individuals, just in different ammounts and combinations. Fascinatingly, testosterone is the hormone that kickstarts female puberty . Thats why cis men who abuse steroids sometimes grow their own beast tissue. DHT is what kicksatrts male puberty. After menopause, females are actually only left with testosterone in their system, as once the ovaries are empty the body doesn’t have a good source of creating it’s own estrogen or progesterone anymore. That’s why so many older women have such a beautiful jaw lines and cheekbones ; Strong necessarily creates definition in the bones of the face. This can actually make sexing the skeleton of an idividual difficult if all you have is the skull. After the age of 60 or so, its hard to tell if the skull you are examining came from a masculinized female face or a gracile male one. Testosterone is also what makes men go bald btw.

[@mommachupacabra]

Not a huge Anne Rice fan overall, but her novel "Cry To Heaven" explores the Italian Castrati culture in as much depth as... well, as Anne Rice could do. One of her two favorite novels of mine (the other being "The Mummy.")

[@mommachupacabra]

Oh another - Mary Renault's "The Persian Boy." Not pleasant but a magnificent tale written by a master of historical fiction.

[@amysnow56]

That is a really good book

[@kylefarr3655]

Interview with the Vampire >>>

[@mgthestrange9098]

I always think of that book when this subject comes up. Good book but shocking at the same time.

[@sinebar]

My favorite Ann Rice book was Interview With The Vampire. The movie was good too for an old movie.

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

My mom had breast cancer that was very sensitive to estrogen. Taking hormone blockers caused her to have a different body fat distribution and she needed to be very closely monitored so they could stop the medication as soon as possible without causing any more harm than absolutely necessary.

[@Bacopa68]

I am glad your mother got such good medical care from doctors who understood the risks of treatment. Somehow using these same drugs for longer periods in children is becoming marked as vital healthcare for mental distress. The castrati, both male and female this time, are making a comeback.

[@collinbeal]

​@@Bacopa68what the original comment was addressing was limiting the body dysmorphia of having one's fat redistributed. In the case of a transgender person, that fat redistribution is the desired effect since they are already experiencing body dysmorphia. It's the same exact thing...

[@jayfalcon-rw3qc]

@@Bacopa68 yes, let's make everything about the one thing that bothers you and you know nothing about but like to shout about in spite of it. You choose to trust doctors who treat breast cancer patients but not the ones who treat other types of patients because you don't actually know anything about medical practices whatsoever, not to mention the specific limits and protocols relevant to a specialty field. Hormones and puberty blockers have been in use for a long time to treat pediatric patients for a number of conditions

[@dewilew2137]

@@collinbeal A Young Girl in Sweden had her spine collapse due to puberty blockers. They are no longer prescribed to children with gender dysphoria due to the overwhelming risks that do not outweigh the benefits. It’s interesting how all of the most progressive countries are banning this drug for use in children with gender dysphoria. As with nearly everything else, the US is woefully misinformed, and years behind when it comes to these studies.

[@dewilew2137]

@@jayfalcon-rw3qc they have been used in pediatrics to treat illnesses in which the benefits far outweigh the risks. As many other countries have determined, this is not the case for children with gender dysphoria. Especially since the vast majority of these children desist by the time they reach puberty, and usually end up just being gay. These kids aren’t even being given a chance.

[@galateaswart2446]

I loved that this got discussed, especially the complexity and variety of ways in which human males can be affected by castration depending on age and reason for removal of the testicles. A little sad that with pets, the researchers did not emphasise that in countries where pet castration is routine (United States, Canada, etc) vets will not castrate an animal prior to the animal's emergence into puberty (cats, dogs, ferrets, etc). The exception being animals bred for meat or used as life stocks (cattle, goats, sheep, etc). The fact that dogs are RARELY castrated prior to puberty does make a significant difference when it comes to medical side effects.

[@mygirldarby]

They spay female dogs before their first heat. And some vets neuter at only eight weeks. There are vets who advise against it, but more and more are castrating dogs before puberty. It isn't rare anymore. Paradoxically, dogs neutered before puberty grow bigger than males that are castrated after puberty.

[@sarah.5524]

@@mygirldarby it's kind of the same thing in horses. Stallions/ geldings castrated later in life tend to be shorter in stature than horses gelded earlier.

[@pault151]

@@mygirldarby The eight weeks figure isn't the "best" number, it's whether a certain stage of development has been reached, which varies strongly with the size of the dog. I would think that vets may actually be aware of this.

[@neuralmute]

@@mygirldarby You've got it. I used to volunteer with the Toronto Humane Society, and their policy was to spay and neuter all puppies and kittens up for adoption at 8 weeks, as long as they were physically fit for the (minor) surgery. 8 weeks has become standard for most major shelters, it seems. And the kittens who I've adopted from them have all been wonderful little fuzzballs, all in great health except for one, who had a birth defect in her digestive system. Apart from her intestinal problems, she was a great cat too. Being "fixed" early hasn't seemed to affect any of my cats adversely.

[@annedymock2850]

But the way the bones grow is not quite the same proportions as when sex hormones are present at usual levels. This means in animals neutered young, there are ergonomic differences in the way joints are strained under use, and dome injuries are more common. Muscle development is much less with less testerone. Being more heavily muscled leads to larger bone attachments and thicker stronger bones. These changes may not make much difference for a pet. If a dog competes in dog sports, the amount and type of exercise they should get training means they are athletes, and like any athlete more susceptible to being injured while competing. For this reason, people who compete in dog sports like agility and flyball do not want to deserve puppies before puberty, ideally not until after growth has finished.

[@Pehmokettu]

I remember when somewhere was a huge online discussion why it is not common to just remove the ovaries if a woman does not want children and don't want more periods. The answer was surprisingly complex because removing the ovaries will cause plenty of health problems like early menopause.

[@pamelamays4186]

Imagine this video being sponsored by Manscape.

[@Mattipedersen]

LOL. Please, don't remind me. The ManScaped Ads are rather obnoxious, as is.

[@mcstabba]

I didn't know the castrato was going on so late that we have recordings of it, cool! I mean not for the castrato himself (or maybe he thought it was worth it?) but intresting to hear it.

[@Legs_]

He would have been a child when it happened, doubt he really wanted it, but he probably didn't have a choice and would never know a different life afterwards. He was in his mid 40s during that recording.

[@LRM12o8]

He may or may not have gotten a say in it (I don't think he did), but he shure as hell couldn't grasp the consequences at that age, so it really doesn't matter if he was given the choice or not. It was wrong either way.

[@briansullivan5908]

Normally the children weren’t asked what they thought.

[@peterkoller3761]

We do not know how good Moreschi was in comparison to the so highly acclaimed castratos of the 18th century. His singing - apart from purely stylistic fashions of 120 years ago that are absolutely outdated now - certainly does not deserve much praise at all. But if 18th century castrati indeed sounded like this, we are not missing out on much. If you want to hear modern recordings of what a Castrato may have sounded like, listen to Paolo Abel do Nascimento - but to be honest, I believe he, too, is just yet another approximation of Castrati voices - what they really sounded like we will never know - thank god. A breathtaking recording of Castrato arias to show what makes their repertoire so special: Bartoli - il sacrificio.

[@rasamerlock4042]

Horrifying but interesting video; Respect on the Beard Growth as well.

[@robertnichols2283]

Lots of testosterone there

[@dustylong]

@@robertnichols2283 🤣😂🤣

[@amethyst5538]

@@robertnichols2283 Good one👍😂

[@briansullivan5908]

Couple of more years Simon can try out for ZZ Tops

[@ehrichweiss]

I know that ferrets experience medical problems after being spayed/neutered. Apparently they spay/neuter too early and so it somehow(nobody's quite sure how yet) causes the adrenal glands to go nuts a little later in life, eventually causing adrenal disease/cancer. I have had non-spayed/neutered ferrets and, assuming they don't catch something stupid, they live a lot longer and a lot healthier but unfortunately my state requires a permit to raise non-neutered/spayed so I can't get any these days without a lot of jumping through hoops. So these days I just act as a rescue for ferrets whose original owners weren't prepared for all the issues they have, which seems to be more than half of them at times.

[@chickadeestevenson5440]

I've heard that if a female ferret ISN'T spayed and goes into heat... she'll die if she doesn't mate

[@tiamariajones6634]

@@chickadeestevenson5440 an un neutered female ferret will stay in heat if they are not neutered and often developed aplastic anemia which will kill them. You can have a Jill injected with hormones to bring them out of heat but they have drawbacks of their own the best way to bring a ferret out of heat is to either mate them and produce a litter or to use a male that has been vicetomised so they mate but the Jill will not get pregnant

[@jeffdroog]

Ferrets are disgusting lol So I'm kind of glad to hear that pet owners are terrible,knowing that they are clearly not doing well with the spaying/neutering,and overall domestication of them,but just keep doing it anyways against their will,causing them future pains and illnesses.Its human selfishness at its highest."OH! Look at me! I own an animal that in no way agrees with my form of dominant domestication tactics! I'm special!" ...And people say slavery is dead lol

[@BigMobe]

I've heard that women get some of their testosterone from their adrenal glands so, if a situation becomes stressful enough instead of ending up in a hyper focused state most guys know as "the zone" women start producing more adrenaline and have a panic attack. It could be a similar situation with ferrets where cutting off a ferrets balls means their body turns to the adrenal glands to make up for the difference and stressing them out accelerates the processes.

[@BranikWolfe]

Dogs, cats, and horses as well. If they are neutered (castrated or spayed) before they are done growing (12 to 24 months for dogs, 2 - 4 years for horses), the growth plates close later, resulting in a tall, narrow, lanky appearance. Bones have receptors for sex hormones, so their lack affects the bones weakening them. Dogs are confirmed to be at higher risk of bone cancers if they are neutered. In breeds prone to bone cancer like the Rottweiler, this can be pretty significant. They are at higher risk of anterior cruciate ligament tears. There are a lot of negative health effects. There is a very comprehensive list of the various study findings online. They've also found in dogs that castration often increase fear biting.

[@ChristinaMaterna]

There are actually some big issues in pets, esp dogs, with early neuter that have been studied in detail over the last decade!

[@loosehandle1]

I agree especially after just spending $600 getting my cats urethra cleaned out.

[@Luv2sing836]

Was just about to say. The real reason pets are spayed and neutered is to avoid producing more strays, not because it’s good for them. More recent research suggests that waiting a bit longer to get your dog or cat spayed or neutered mitigates these health risks. How long that is depends on breed and size.

[@kiaradoesart9682]

@@loosehandle1 The research for cats (much less studied than dogs btw) is now suggesting the opposite- castrating early is perfectly fine for them and reduces their risk for a bunch of cancers as well, particularly females. A urinary infection/blockage doesn't have anything to do with their hormones, it has to do with cats being fed dry food when they don't have a strong instinct to drink enough water (their wild cousins get most of the moisture they need from their food).

[@skyeiron5872]

Yep, which is why my boys are intact.

[@zoepadmore9922]

Not entirely true. Unspayed female dogs are far more likely to get cancer of the uterus and mammaries. Unspayed and eneutured cats get into fights and have wounds and abscesses plus the increased likelihood of getting hit by cars etc. as they roam far and wild looking for mates. And with the amount of unwanted kittens and puppies abandoned and killed or left to an uncertain future and very short, miserable life in the wild, why wouldn't you sterilize your pet.

[@function0077]

Alan Turing, the British did you dirty. You were an incredible man.

[@DFSJR1203]

I am going on the 20th of this month to setup my surgery to have my broken testes removed. I am 63 and I have Varicocele's on both balls. Something happened and they twisted and the blood was cut off to both testicles. Well now both of my balls are dead from getting no blood. So now I am going to have both removed which is called a Orchiectomy. After the operation I will have to take hormones for the rest of my life. This is going to be strange because I am currently taking Estradiol which is estrogen for a problem with my prostrate. Lucky F$cking Me

[@RogueDemon1199]

You might be able to go off the estradiol, if your testes weren't producing test, you weren't aromatising the test to estrogen, So maybe it might help the prostate or it could lead to all sorts of new problems

[@desylid5915]

Wtf could your doctor possibly be prescribing estradiol for with your prostate? It has been shown in the last few years that prostate cancers are caused by estradiol and not testosterone. And especially when test levels are low. You should probably get a second opinion. If you are experiencing BPH, tamsolusin works far better than estradiol at reliving the symptoms

[@desylid5915]

@@RogueDemon1199 extremely unlikely that he wasn’t aromatizing test into estradiol. It’s a lethal condition in humans to have genes that don’t code for aromatase. And that enzyme is expressed in several different types of tissue so there is redudency

[@envisionelectronics]

I had an orchiectomy at age 8 to remove my undescended testicles. I’ve gone my whole life (almost 40 years) on some form of T. It does suck and I often forget to take it. It has caused me to experience osteoporosis which is a terrible side effect of insufficient testosterone and what keeps reminding me to stay on track. I wish you all the best in your new journey.

[@valerielhw]

So, the castration of boys started because women were seen as "unfit" to sing in operas. This goes to show how sexism against women can ALSO be deeply unfair to _men._

[@LRM12o8]

Sexism and especially gender stereotypes often affects both genders. Our society assigns hobbies/interests, clothes/appearance and behaviors with genders and any boy who shows interest in 'girl' stuff and any girl interested in 'boys' stuff instantly gets looked at weird or told they can't do that. It limits us all in some way. Then ofc there's "women's jobs", like nurse, stewardess, hostess, hairstylist etc that are paid less because of that and men doing the job are often laughed at. The dumbest thing I've seen was when my teacher in 2nd grade elementary school spent an entire lesson on ranting about how boys were generally lazy and dumb whereas girls were always intelligent, studious and obedient and she'd much rather only teach girls than having to deal with us boys. Up until that point I was quite motivated to be a good student (despite often getting into trouble due to ADHD), but this crushed all hope of my efforts ever being recognized by the teacher and I just concluded that her low expectation towards boys means that I don't need to put in as much effort then. And I wasn't the only boy that thought this, so she got what she asked for, lol!

[@lancewalker2595]

@@LRM12o8 "The dumbest thing I've seen was when my teacher in 2nd grade elementary school spent an entire lesson on ranting about how boys were generally lazy and dumb whereas girls were always intelligent, studious and obedient and she'd much rather only teach girls than having to deal with us boys. Up until that point I was quite motivated to be a good student (despite often getting into trouble due to ADHD), but this crushed all hope of my efforts ever being recognized by the teacher and I just concluded that her low expectation towards boys means that I don't need to put in as much effort then. And I wasn't the only boy that thought this, so she got what she asked for, lol! " You, and all the other boys too mate; completely relate.

[@valerielhw]

@@LRM12o8 That teacher sounds like a bigoted nutcase who had no business teaching young children. She definately should have been fired. Hope you did better in subsequent grades.

[@LRM12o8]

@@valerielhw yep, she definitely was a psycho that would have been fired anywhere else. The problem was she basically ran the school along with another teacher who was just like her. They each taught two grades in all the main subjects. And together they picked a kid from each year that they'd deem a troublemaker and treat worse from the start. I was one of them. Another one, two years older, failed 3rd grade and when a classmate asked this teacher why the kid had to repeat that year, she made a rant for the rest of the lesson about how dumb and lazy that kid is and how he's ruining his future. Guess what all the boys in the class (myself included) did in the following break! The poor kid was sobbing and tried to hide behind the dumpsters. We didn't know better. How would we, with such a twisted teacher as role model? Anyway, I was sort of an easy target, because I was a fast learner and had ADD, so it would often look like I wasn't paying attention when in reality I was done with my tasks or didn't need to hear another explanation. But I was rejected from the start anyway, evidenced by a "picture with funny caption" of me on my first day at school with a thought bubble above my head reading: "must I do t'is s'it every day now?" in the weekly school report. Something I wouldn't have said or thought, I was super proud to finally go to school like my older brother, but they saw me as the type of kid who would hate school and then went on to make sure I will. In 4th grade my parents got external help involved by a pedagogue, who has been helping parents and schools with "difficult" kids for 40 years and even he was shocked by how these teachers treated some of the students and said he's never seen anything like this in his career. And that I should go to a different elementary school asap for the last half year. Which we did and my grades immediately improved drastically and I just managed to qualify for gymnasium, the highest level of secondary school. (rather than going through steps, in Germany you have to select the degree of education you think you can achieve after 4th grade at 10 years old...). But, well the damage was done. By the time I got away from that hellhole I've already grown hostile, cause I knew no friendly jokes, only malicious attacks against me from my old class and had developed serious anger issues (could also have been a side-effect of Ritalin), so bullying became a problem again in the other elementary school and the secondary school, but at least it wasn't actively supported by the teachers! They were rather trying to help me, which was an important change. But it still took six more years and three attempts at therapy to brake out of the cycle and get rid of the temper that made me such a rewarding target for bullies.

[@valerielhw]

@@LRM12o8 It is shocking that such a cruel teacher maintained her job, and continued to mentally brutalize certain kids for so long. I am glad you finally escaped it. I hope the older kid did, also.

[@Paul-ou1rx]

My adult male cat (stray) became afraid of heights, had less interest in play and doubled+ in weight.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

I saw a thing describing castrated boys before puberty ended up growing way taller than most people because, something to do with the lack of something that told the bones to stop growing, so they grew more then normal. They had a high chance of osteoporosis at later ages tho.. so there's that..

[@joethompson543]

My grandmother was a nursemaid for one of the last maharajah in India. She always said the eunuchs acted like gossippy old ladies.

[@froxy2066]

67% less carbon footpring than what is average for my country. Time to set couple dumpsters on fire to get back in line.

[@charlesgantz5865]

Whether Turing committed suicide is problematic. He definitely died of cyanide poisoning, but he had a hobby of electroplating objects with gold. The process used cyanide and produced fumes. Turing was known to be a little careless, so another theory is that he just accidentally poisoned himself. Unfortunately, the apple that was next to him wasn't tested for cyanide, so we can't be sure that he poisoned himself with that. Also, another habit of his was to have an apple just before going to sleep, and he often only ate half the apple. See Wikipedia for details.

[@lonewolf3611]

The last castrato, a haunting voice as much for its beauty as well as for its origin

[@owenshebbeare2999]

@@SugarFreeWorldOrder True, he wasn't considered a great one, at least by the standards by which they were judged, but definitely a poignant bit of singing.

[@cdna786]

@@owenshebbeare2999 piiiiii look

[@sinebar]

England owes Allen Turing an apology for the horror they inflicted on him. His work shortened the war by 2 years and that's how they thanked him.

[@terryenby2304]

It’s very important to spay a bitch between heats, in order to avoid issues with hormonal rollercoasters (similar to menopause, but dogs don’t naturally go through menopause, unlike humans and orcas). It’s also best to neuter dogs after they are 12-24 months old (depending upon breed- basically the age they stop growing) as testosterone helps play a role in growth and joint health. If we wait until after dog puberty an animal has fewer joint issues and possibly better mental health too.

[@TheGingey]

I would strongly disagree with their mental health being better. It's common knowledge at this point that low hormones cause increased incidents of anxiety and depression in people. It makes sense that would apply to animals as well, of course what is depression in a dog? Who knows what that experice is like.

[@terryenby2304]

@@TheGingey as opposed to removing those hormones in puppyhood and potentially damaging their urethra, causing more joint pain and damage, and preventing them from developing normally!

[@montana_patriot]

The recordings of the last Castrati are interesting to listen to, but only for a novelty. At the time he was recorded, he was past his prime.

[@Bacopa68]

In spite of supposed lung capacity coming from height, the slight build of the castrati is no match for the female singers that advanced from the 1700's onwards. Women are just louder and have the endurance to train harder. Mozart needed a loud Cherubino. So Cherubino is played by a woman.

[@carrielange2692]

I've often wondered what chemical castration meant, so I thought, "oh, finally Simon gonna explain it". But alas, no... OK, i googled it. it's just drugs that you have to take on a regular basis that reduces testosterone. It's not permanent, you have to keep taking the drug. I guess that's part of what I was confused about. Couldn't figure out how they destroyed the testes with chemicals. So, they don't. It's basically like a prescription you have to take forever.

[@desylid5915]

You are correct that chemical castration is temporary (tho you can use radiation and of course a knife.) There is an extremely aggravating myth about anabolic steroids that they will permanently lower test levels or cause infertility. If scientists can’t figure out how to cause hormonal castration or a make birth control pill, a gymbro doing a cycle of steroids isnt going to either.

[@johnchestnut5340]

Actually it can be permanent. "If you don't use it, then you lose it." The body can stop doing things over time. But how long it takes is not predictable from one individual to another.

[@desylid5915]

@@johnchestnut5340 hormones can decrease in expression over time but it is not true “if you don’t use it you lose it” and steroids don’t cause permanent hypogonadism. That’s not his the human body works. If you take proton pump inhibitors does the stomach tissue stop producing acid? No. If the eyes are blindfolded does vision end? No. Does exogenous insulin permanently stop endogenous production? No. You are just repeating the myth and making up a nonsensical explanation in a poor attempt to defend it

[@johnchestnut5340]

@desylid You are clearly ignorant. Else you cannot tell the difference between short-term and long-term effects. You actually do go blind if you are kept in the dark for a long enough time period. But go ahead and believe lies. Education cures ignorance; stupidity has no cure. Choose wisely. I suppose you're going to tell me that the adrenal glands are not a source of testosterone.

[@Ammar34567]

@@johnchestnut5340 "you actually do go blind of you are kep in the dark for a long enough time period" Source?

[@unbabunga229]

I didn't want my dog to have his balls removed when I was teenager but my parents did. I honestly didnt feel great about it, and no joke i couldn't even look him in the eye for a while cos i felt like I'd betrayed him.

[@AshGreen359]

Pets in fact do, in larger breeds of dogs out can be devastating to neuter them before they are fully grown

[@carissaagurkis4249]

They've actually made some recent changes to nueter recommendations to after puberty for dogs, particularly large dogs because of negative effects of the loss of certain hormones.

[@stoneshrink]

Oh yeah, and about tree planting. Every year I buy a live tree, decorate it on my porch then plant it as early in the New Year as is possible. To me, it seems quite fitting with the rebirth that Christmas celebrates. So far I've planted at least one a year, but there are 11 living trees (some years, I've planted multiple to offset the years the tree didn't survive) after 12 years of planting - two are nearly 60 feet tall now and two are waiting to be planted.....

[@Michael-hb4wc]

Well, I guess I know what my nightmares will be tonight! Thanks, Simon.

[@monicadaniels784]

Thank you for mentioning Alan Turing!

[@gingercat777]

Thinking about the fact there was no anaesthetic in the day.....Yikes!

[@TheMajorStranger]

There was. It was called a lot of alcohol and getting knocked out.

[@Ozuhananas]

@@TheMajorStranger And also various plant mixes to lessen the pain

[@clausroquefort9545]

they did have opium

[@gingercat777]

@@clausroquefort9545 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJDRoZSYnbFgd6s&ab_channel=IntotheShadows

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

I had a room-mate once who told me their family had a cat that committed suicide after being "fixed". He said the cat seemed depressed after the surgery. One day their family was having a barbecue on a patio adjacent to their house when the cat appeared at the peak of the second story roof. Someone said "look, there's the cat" and they looked up to see him. He said the cat looked down at them and stepped off the roof. It didn't even try to land on its feet. The cat plunged head first into the concrete and was killed on impact. He is 100 percent certain that it was a suicide.

[@RemyRAD]

I don't think it was a suicide. When you realize. Lots of these cats. They don't have much in the way of, depth perception. It got excited over the moment. And didn't judge the distance right. They are like that. You see them in the funny pet videos. They can't judge distances. It's a true, leap, of faith. They don't make many times. Yeah cats are not human. They don't commit suicide. That's a human thing. They are not human. They are cats. And it's similar to, John Denver's, crash. Where was the Rocky Mountain high? He missed. Like the cat. RemyRAD

[@widodoakrom3938]

Wow

[@JJ-si4qh]

I don't like how this type of thing is seen as a joke to so many people, but wouldn't be if it were the other way around

[@birdnird]

I watched this because I was curious about the incidence of early-onset osteoporosis in neutered pets (male and female). Kinda disappointed there was no info on this specific subject provided, but there has probably not been any studies, except perhaps in certain pure-bred dog lineages that are prone to genetic problems

[@MooncrafterUTAU]

Probably because other things like testicular cancer, uterine infections, and the other myriad of health problems for intact animals happen more often. Vets don’t even recommend alteration for population control anymore- it’s a preventative health measure.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Don't forget how flaky the general public gets about even a single "down-side" to a procedure, regardless of its correlations or other involvements to otherwise "unrelated" issues... Nobody in the veterinary business wants to risk admitting there's a health problem involved, because as soon as there's even the slightest excuse, they worry that we'll be right back to "square one" where nobody was willing to consider neutering their pets... EVER. AND arguably, it dramatically improves their lives and longevity far and away more than any harm it causes them. ;o)

[@MooncrafterUTAU]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 True, but speaking from personal experience of having worked in a vet clinic - I saw plenty of testicular cancer cases, at least once every two months. We never had any early on-set osteoporosis patients. (My sample size is small and not to be taken as anything other than personal anecdote)

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@MooncrafterUTAU For what it's worth, it's usually in the larger breeds (and pure-bloods, specifically) that those kinds of issues tend to come up... There's a LOT of inbreeding in the pure-bred lines historically... AND that tends to have consequences... I love Rottie's, for instance, but they tend to get arthritic in the back legs... On the "one down-side" though... Even just the rumor of a potential downside, we have a HUGE chunk of the population outright refusing to vaccinate... Can you imagine what chaos would come if an "expert" admitted something about castrating a family pet??? No... Far too much harm to be done that way. I never indicated that I somehow disagreed with avoiding that dubious study... Just that there was reason for it. ;o)

[@BranikWolfe]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Except for the numerous animals it doesn't improve the lives of. It has been extensively studied, the studies are readily available online. The higher risk of multiple cancers (haemangiosarcoma, mast cell tumors, cardiac tumors, lymphosarcoma, osteosarcoma and lymphoma), higher risk of anterior cruciate ligament rupture, delayed growth plate closure, increase in fear biting incidents in male dogs, increased joint disease like hip dysplasia (double the incidence of intact dogs). Early neutered animals have a higher risk of cranial cruciate ligament rupture because the bone ends up growing longer than it should have, adding stress to the ligament. For Rottweilers for example, the risk of bone cancer in neutered dogs and bitches is 1 in 4. Also found in Rottweilers, females lose approximately 30% of their lifespan if they are spayed before the age of 6. Neutering (spay and castration) can lead to a pretty miserable and even shortened life for a LOT of animals.

[@lorenzwinterhoff8049]

It's common to castrate male pet rats if they start to get too much hormonal aggression (rats tend to use fighting for dominance a lot). because of the animal size, it's not usually done to females, it doesn't affect their aggression, but it will affect their weight and nesting habits.

[@justinsullivan5063]

Especially good episode, Simon. Thank you.

[@fatherofdragons4880]

Proud to finally have Turing on the £50 note!

[@dougsteel7414]

guy more or less saves Britain from Nazi occupation, defines the general purpose computer - the most revolutionary device ever, and what do we do to him? Give him old school horrific drugs and he tops himself. We should all give ourselves a round of applause

[@player1connected]

Waking up learning about balls. My life... Is strange

[@demonflowerchild]

SAME

[@demonflowerchild]

@@K_D_A wait did you wake up with balls on your chin?

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Kinda teared up at that last bonus fact...people are so stupid and heartless.

[@MrRezRising]

This sounds like it was rippped straight from a book called Panati's Extraordinary Endings to Practically Everything and Everybody. Really fun book. Packed with crazy info. 🤘Cheers!

[@richardcollingridge4712]

Fascinating video. In sheep, very early castration can lead to a particular problem. In a ram (uncastrated male) the penis and therefore the urethra grows considerably larger as he matures. In a wether (castrated male) the urethra remains much narrower, especially if castrated very young. If for some reason the animal later develops urinary calculi (kidney or bladder stones), the narrow urethra of a wether can become blocked more easily, preventing the passing of urine and causing great pain. This usually means the animal dies or has to be culled. Urinary calculi are particularly common in sheep which have been fed on high energy feed for rapid growth, but they are rare in grass-fed animals. In rams the stones pass much more easily through their larger urethra, and in females the urethra is of course much shorter and also wider so they don't normally suffer from this problem. Male sheep reared for meat are nevertheless usually castrated, because if he has reached puberty before slaughter the meat can be strongly tainted, especially if he's slaughtered during the winter, which is the tupping (breeding) season in many types of sheep. Similarly the meat of uncastrated male goats and pigs can both have a male taint, especially in fattier cuts.

[@zakosist]

I think that is reason why premature castration should be banned (even at the cost of productivity or flavor, because its just too cruel, alternatively slaughter them early) or if you do castrate them, then you're obligated to check on their health quite regularly to ensure they dont suffer for long

[@Yezpahr]

Would have been hilarious if Manscaped sponsored this one.

[@raydunakin]

KZbin's ad placement algorithm strikes again...I clicked on this video and the first thing I get is a "male enhancement" ad that starts off with a castration entendre.

[@bdub8963]

🤯 Simon, you are killing the beard game!!

[@TragoudistrosMPH]

The Turning bit was a shock 😯, poor guy... Humans...

[@Primalxbeast]

I always found it amusing when someone with a tauren character in WoW would have "ox" as part of their character name.

[@joanhoffman3702]

Anne Rice wrote a novel called “Cry To Heaven” about castrati, focusing on one in particular. It was a very good read. I recommend it.

[@attackofthehog]

Great video, and certainly an interesting topic! Still, if ONE video would have been worthy of a Manscaped sponsorship, it would have been this one.

[@3ch1dna07]

That voice was just beautifully haunting. Barbaric act but that VOICE.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

An added note, male cats have special glands removed when they're neutered that produce the fluids used for spraying. If a male cat who's been neutered turns their back to you and twitches their tail at the base, congrats, he just tried to spray you and you've had the foresight to neuter your cat. It's their version of humping your leg. Landlords generally like male cats to be neutered for this reason as the spray they leave behind smells to high heaven and requires a special cleaner to remove. *sighs and points to her cat* He tries to do it to me all the time when I won't drop everything and feed him. I go "haha, naughty boi" and keep going with minecraft XD sadly cats don't understand daylight savings time, so when I normally feed him at 4pm, if it's winter time, he thinks it's food time at 3pm instead and spends an hour throwing the feline version of a temper tantrum. Rubbing the corner of my monitor, climbing up on the desk in front of my screen, headbumping and when I put him on the ground and tell him to sit enough times he freaks out and starts chewing random items in an effort to SHRED them. If he progresses beyond that, (and he rarely does) then he tries to bite me when I make the gesture for him to sit. Then he goes in the bedroom for half an hour until he calms down.

[@TheDolphace]

It doesn't always work, as the neutered bengal dick next door shows. But I'm pretty sure I'm just massively unlucky to live next to a neutered cat who still sprays! Yay me!

[@mommachupacabra]

The only cat I ever had a problem with indoor spraying was a female (who still rules the farm.) She only did it when the other cats indoors pissed her off. So to speak.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

@@TheDolphace sometimes a testicle drops late. >.> also bengals are part wild animal. I think it's two generations removed, from the Asian Leopard Cat. They and Savannahs tend to require a lot of exercise and mental stimulation for that reason. If they don't get it, they destroy shit. If you have toys, bengal might become less assholey towards you. Teasers work. Just watch your fingers!

[@TheEvilCommenter]

Good video 👍

[@daysleeper7209]

Were the castrati and eunuchs consenting, or was it even a choice?

[@Sienisota]

I think it depended on where they lived, and also their economic status. If you are poor, becoming an eunuch in a place that respected and needed castrated men, I assume it might've been a voluntary choice. To get a better status.

[@itsapittie]

It depended greatly upon the time and place. The Chinese court eunuchs typically volunteered for it because it was a path to wealth and power. To the best of my knowledge, the eunuchs of the Byzantine and Ottoman empires mostly didn't have a choice. As for the castrati, a 10 year old child can't really give informed consent to anything.

[@GheyForGames]

I wonder how they staved off infection and the extremely long healing time of such a practice

[@redmi9834]

The Chinese were pretty good with their herbal remedies. I know a woman here in Malaysia who had a snake bite to her foot. The hospital wanted to amputate it and she refused. She went to a Chinese herbalist shop and the owner took her in for a week and treated her with a number of concoctions and poultices and saved her foot.

[@AntonioLopez-mb9jj]

😵 Crazy and it was done before modern medicine so besides negative affects medically there was risk of infection and a lot pain and so on risks back then before modern medicine during surgeries.

[@Gemini22-v4w]

Great video dude

[@mynameisntpatrick1476]

Gold tier thumbnail 👌

[@ghoullovinbutch]

We got my dog when he was only 16wks. His foster had him castrated as soon as he hit 5lb. I genuinely actually think it damaged his social and psychological development and he’s far more aggressive than he was earlier on pre-castration. He also didn’t properly… develop… in certain areas, because he was castrated so young. I think it messed him up.

[@skyeiron5872]

It is well proven that early desexing stuffs a dogs, at the very least, physically.

[@chelseaoocandy]

I always spay and neuter my pets but a homeless little male Chihuahua showed up at my front door (literally) one evening and after not finding where he came from I decided to adopt him. He was already old and not fixed, I felt bad for the little guy, he's had his balls his whole life and I didn't want him to go under at that age. He was harmless and was not going to go out and impregnate other dogs so he had them until he passed away. I didn't know how old he was but he lived 9-10 yard after I adopted him. RIP Killer willer.

[@pault151]

Had one dog who had been left intact but he was never allowed to roam, so no little pups attributed to him. The vet said that he lived through a couple of medical events late in life more likely because he was still intact, the vet said that the drive & medical recovery of intact males was a little better in his experience. However another who had been left intact developed a tumor similar to prostate cancer, same vet recommended castration at about age 9 (these dogs live to 12-13). This was successful, the tumor reduced on its own once testosterone was removed from the environment. We did have another mixed breed rescue, Chow Chow and probably Golden, who had lost probably none of his aggression despite castration. Unfortunately! But we dealt with it.

[@mathsinger]

​@@pault151is not so much the spraying itself, it's the pungent odor of the tomcat urine. I can identify it from far off. I wouldn't want an unneutered male cat using an indoor litter box even if he was well behaved in the spraying department.

[@skyeiron5872]

@@pault151 That sounds more like BPH (Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia) than a tumor. Basically the prostate enlarges due to testosterone and often has cysts form on/in it. It can cause issues with urination and is common in intact male dogs but may be asymptomatic. Basically many older dogs have it but it doesn't necessarily actually cause any problems so many dogs live normally with it. It's 'Benign' because it doesn't directly cause death, but it can cause complications that do, in symptomatic dogs. Basically, if they're not showing clinical signs, don't worry about it, it's not doing them any harm, but if they are showing clinical signs, time to get them castrated. The removal of the source of testosterone (testicles) usually resolves the issue because the prostate will reduce in size. Prostate _cancer_ is actually more common in desexed dogs.

[@pault151]

@@skyeiron5872 Thanks for your comments! This dog was having a separate issue where they did imaging to look for problems in the lower spine, he ended up with elimination diagnosis of probably degenerative myelopathy (separate issue, he was only a single carrier for it so it was a very unusual presentation according to specialists). But while looking for spinal problems they found what was related to us as a tumor, maybe they said mass, I can't recall for sure. It did reduce after that surgery. The overall question in the video title is valid, our pets DO have changes or issues relating to neutering, it's just that they can't directly voice what the issues are. So medically they have to just collect statistics on how likely each of the changes are and whether they are detrimental in the long run. Whether human males should be subjected to castration when they are too aggressive, or have too many uncontrolled impregnations, well, that's a separate issue....🤔

[@Doewiebele]

Very interesting! Thank you

[@HazzCraft]

Video starts at 1:34

[@jacquesjones9980]

Absolutely awful that happened to those boys, never could have known what it meant for the rest of their lives

[@jacquesjones9980]

Also i might add that this is way worse then if you were to even take estrogen as a boy because then you'd still develop much healthier even if more feminine. Basically when growing we need hormones typically although i understand there are medical exceptions

[@Kannot2023]

Usually they were boys from poor families, but a castrato was paid well, so he could help his family.

[@abyssstrider2547]

@@jacquesjones9980 I read an article about an experiment. They gave a boy female hormones and also stopped his testosterone production and after puberty the dude looked like a legit chick... Crazy stuff though.

[@jacquesjones9980]

@@Kannot2023 money regardless many of these boys were molested, no amount of money fixes that

[@jacquesjones9980]

@@abyssstrider2547 also yes there's also a case where a boy whos last name was reimer was forced medically to be a girl after a botched circumcision and he couldn't handle it it ruined his life and he committed s*icide.

[@wigglyjiggly4498]

How much beard oil do I have to buy for you to only make Brain Blaze content?

[@secretlyamazing]

Good lord. The "st" and "TS" sounds in this video are about to max out my speakers lol

[@FortyHyena]

There is a significant amount of evidence pointing to Alan Turing's death being an accidental poisoning and not suicide. The medical examiner was extremely biased against Turing, and even Turing's mother insisted that he did not commit suicide and that the authorities labelling his death a suicide was their final act of slander against her son. Look it up, it's actually VERY interesting.

[@nigelbarrett4179]

Nice one Simon! 😊

[@EnigmaGameMaster]

In reality, it's possible for men to sing high notes using their natural voice! It's incredible that they used to castrate boys and ruin their health for something that can be achieved naturally... Metal singers in particular, are a perfect example of this: They achieve notes which even most women don't usually reach without falsetto, through training. Not only that, it's possible for a skilled singer to sing in either falsetto, their regular voice, or anywhere in between, which, combined with vocal posture and other variables, makes for a basically limitless amount of possible sounds and tones. Source: I am a Metal singer.

[@aatypzbt6258]

Lol. Just watched the video where you said you wanted to offset your carbon footprint, and boom, appropriate sponsor. Nice!

[@davidmurphy7332]

I was going to say that it must be an evolutionary thing via selective breeding with neutered pets, but then realised I hadn't thought that through

[@itsapittie]

🤣

[@justvibinginouterdarkness]

I thought the first half was a good point, then I hit the second half of the sentence and realized that I, too, had not thought that through

[@jeffdroog]

No offense,but maybe don't show your parents this.Its a little embarrassing how completely wrong you were in different ways,because "I was going to say" is 100% false lol You weren't going to say anything,you in fact,did say it.Maybe sit in the corner with a coloring book for a bit until you're more up to speed for life.

[@thegooddoctor2009]

I mean you could breed the animal prior to neutering.

[@jeffdroog]

@@thegooddoctor2009 ...Yes? But that wouldn't show you what happens when generations of NEUTERED pairs have been breeding together...Because you can't do that lol...

[@Srinathji_Das]

Excellent video! 👍

[@AkshatSharma1505]

What about psychological effects? Like Alan Turing suffering from depression immediately after he was castrated. Testosterone and other male hormones play a big part in mood, motivation, drive and general quality of life. Do castrated animals and men suffer from the psychological and psychiatric effects of not having male hormones?

[@TheHikeChoseMe]

dunno. women seem to do quite well without all that T

[@AkshatSharma1505]

Because their physiology is different from that of men and they've got loads of female-specific hormones like estrogen and progesterone to keep them going.

[@veemie8148]

@@AkshatSharma1505 Estrogen is within male bodies too. Female and male bodies share the same building blocks.

[@AkshatSharma1505]

@@veemie8148 Yes, but it's got more roles to play in the female body. Male and female bodies share the same building blocks, but that's not to say that they're exactly the same. There are physiological, psychological and all kinds of differences.

[@samhall3821]

Chemically castrated.

[@rennnnn914]

Your beard is getting pretty impressive Simon. Lookin' good.

[@b.r.h.1038]

I remember hearing as a kid that Michael Jackson had his testes cut so that his voice wouldn't drop during/after puberty. Judging from pics of him over the years I'm not so sure that was just a crazy conspiracy

[@nataliekhanyola5669]

Michael developed into a healthy adult male. His voice was also an octave deeper than when he was a boy. People who spread this rumour don't know what they are talking about. He wasn't castrated! He literally has 2 biological children.

[@sburns2421]

Damn you have to be committed to singing to do this

[@danielleriley2796]

18% of men between 20 and 45 yo who have testosterone cut off get very severely depressed and suicidal. That’s the results from UK NHS study from about 2015 ish.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

One question that never gets answered for me about this is how do they go pee after said removal?

[@avery2041]

If all was pretty much removed they probably left a little bit but they'd most likely have to pee sitting down like a female.

[@Koji-Alistair]

You don't need your testicles to pee, you do know that right? 🤨🤨🤨

[@tomlopez4968]

The same as before

[@dianepeter3625]

On castrated dogs at least, there are growth issues, as you mentioned sex hormones control growth, so depending on when the dog is castrated the head may not broaden, the legs will grow too long among other physical deformities, weight can be a problem. In females if they don't have bladder control before being altered they will never gain bladder control and will dribble urine their entire life. I had a Sheltie cross that was pretty much the poster child for spay damage, she had every issue associated with spaying too early.

[@markamcampbell5795]

that explains why my fixed male cat has a high pitched meow. poor baby.

[@joeseeking3572]

Appreciate the sympathetic footnote on Turing: truly a ridiculous situation that one would scarcely think possible in post-WWII Britain, but there it is.

[@Bacopa68]

Chemical castration is trending up in the US. Parents who are fearful how their boy is behaving can do worse to him then Turing had. Look up Kai Shappley.

[@gregdankert]

“How do you staff that” hy- ooooooo. He’s here all week folks

[@snecilia9601]

Ahh, the delight of orchiectomies

[@BigYouDog]

"More of a mixed bag " 🤣

[@goosiechild]

dogs absolutely do experience medical problems from spaying/neutering, especially if it's done before the dog is done growing. but you seldom hear about it, because reasons. now drink your corn syrup.

[@louisesumrell6331]

I can speak/sing in the deepest range of baritone and a full, round alto and into soprano. It takes a great deal of practice.

[@michaelzumpano7318]

I was expecting a physiological explanation for why my pets don’t get osteoporosis. Do you know why?

[@zakosist]

Maybe just because they live shorter, so these health problems have less time to develop. I dont know, just suggesting, since it often happens in old age in humans

[@lisar3944]

@@zakosist but a large part of the reason it happens in "old age" is due to hormone loss. At least for women. After menopause, women (who are not on hormone replacement) start losing bone density remarkably quickly. As do young women who lose their ovaries or have premature ovarian failure. The loss of estrogen is primary cause for osteoporosis in women, and it *just so happens* that normally this happens later in life. But it's not the age that's causing it, it's the loss of hormones. I honestly don't know how much of a problem osteoporosis is for men. I know all of my female relatives essentially died or had their quality of life hideously reduced as a result of complications of osteoporosis, while I don't recall any of my male relatives even being diagnosed with it. Not saying it's no problem for men, just no first hand knowledge about it in men :/