If LeBron shot as much as MJ, he'd average 30-points for a career - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED

[@TheFacilityonFS1]

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[@MALLYGEEZ1]

Shannon arguments are not good. Also, MJ shooting % was 50% before he came back as a old player with the Wizards. Lebron is at 50% and falling as he gets older.

[@zacharyminor9593]

Lebron is who he is, he had chances to score more doesn't mean he wins, more shots takes away more assists and that's not lebron's game!

[@TH-uy5ou]

And again shannon kicked skip and mj a.., everytime i see skip disarmed, damn i thanked god. The wise sharpe vs the dumb bayless If this would be mortal kombat, i might say to shannon " finish him", "fatality"

[@zacharyminor9593]

@@TH-uy5ou Shannon doesn't know basketball, he keeps saying lebron is better because of rebounds and assists, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHOOTING GUARDS POSITIONS DO, THEY SCORE AND PLAYED DEFENSE. KOBE, WADE, DREXLER, DUMARS ALL DID THE SAME THING!

[@TH-uy5ou]

Lol Shannon: " ...he'll got 40 thousands, 10'000 rebounds, 10'000 assist and a minimum of 5 c'ships..." Skip: "...how many finals he lose?" Lol that hilarious, cos skip is defending mj has the got, but he uses always the subjet that mj was 6-0 in finals, but russell got 11 (8-0 the first time), n robert horry got 7-0, so skip can avoid reality, n that is that mj wasnt the goat n that LEGOAT is better player than mj, even if LEGOAT wasnt a good ft or the best 3pt shooter, he dominates this league with less help than mj got, so if LEGOAT improved, he simple became the NBA GOD

[@vishavsra1116]

Skip hanging off a cliff and bron comes and saves him Skip: Jordan would've stomped on my hand he was a killer

[@Terror832]

“I met Michael in person. He farted in my face and it was better than anything LeBron ever did” - Skip Bayless

[@ea6256]

LMAO

[@kingtshilobo1849]

😂😂

[@hey_thatssteezo1845]

bro i laughed too hard at this comment 😂😂

[@IrvingDL506]

LOL u both wrongs for those comments lol

[@kingkeio1027]

Skip's mental stamina is incredible. I've never witnessed a man at his age, have the ability to jump through so many hoops and not fatigue himself. That's amazing.

[@pvoapparelstore]

Pure factz 😂😂

[@AMONEYGREEN2040]

😭😭😭😭I’m cryin

[@Valuemeal_papi]

Skip is borderline senile

[@user-pj9ce5lb9q]

I think Shannon’s mental stamina may be at a higher level just for the fact that he has to debate against Skip jumping through those hoops haha. Most of us would’ve just smacked Skip after 20 seconds 😂

[@tonylouis6072]

It's derived only from his devotion to bashing Lebron. It looks more like illness than anything

[@CeeWorld69]

This show is actually called, “Keeping up with Lebron.”

[@drewescobar2]

Nah cause if it was they’d be making better numbers

[@samestuffdifferentday5712]

Yawning…..please……🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@bruceleeroy2037]

For real

[@giainhgang1940]

They talk about everything Lebron just get more views

[@TenaciousZen]

i wish this convo would just end already. there are too many "IF's". just let it go...on both sides....like Unc said , people that think Jordan is the GOAT are not gonna change...same thing with lebron...lets move on.

[@BrokeTeenager]

“poor lebron, so his coaches were saying ‘YOU CANT SHOOT’ “ skip is hilarious man 🤣🤣

[@matt_oworu_19]

😂 that was a bar

[@MikeBNumba6]

Skip the GOAT lol

[@martyanisking438]

Nope lbj did not want to coach like on the cavs ok so it's on lbj ok

[@Ammar.bitcoin]

Lol I laught out loud when skip said that 😹😹and he’s right !!!

[@DEMI-sq5uf]

You guys are weird.

[@AduKofs]

LeBron is literally controlling this show at this point. I think he knows that too....

[@MrOhio-hm8jy]

Boom!👍🏿

[@dododump3144]

He probably watches it then goes on his Instagram to make skip mad

[@Tamicheal22]

This comment is so true.

[@Nilson_VC]

Actually Lebron is paid for every post he makes. Many entertainment shows benefits from that.

[@hiro_hoops]

He controlling whole ESPN 🏀

[@Stavs97]

I guess Kyrie, Wade, Love and Bosh were just out there runnin'

[@multyz1]

As if Pippen wasn't doing what MJ couldn't do. Sadly the phony GOAT couldn't win without Pippen.

[@FierySpiritMaury]

How can you run without legs?

[@eatravi5533]

@@multyz1 so magic couldn’t win without Kareem and worthy .. or bron couldn’t win without bosh, wade, Allen , Kyrie , love , AD … and mj could do what pippin could do but you have a home grown player that is versatile why not let him grow and nobody in the league scored like mj he averaged a triple double damn near when asked

[@jgyrwa]

None of them were as dominate in the league like Shaq.

[@TRU.tv.]

So😂😂

[@micahhampton4165]

Shannon’s right but that doesn’t really matter, if you shoot more you’re gonna have more points. Jordan and Lebron’s roles on their teams were different.

[@Phori859]

Facts like if Jordan passed as much as Lebron he’d average 9 assists for a year

[@carlosduncan1389]

@@Phori859 facts… and less points. It’s common sense

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

@@carlosduncan1389 not really I think it was during the 80s or sum, he averaged 8 assists and 8 rebounds while still scoring 33 a game for the season

[@august6281]

also, efficiency will go down if someone didn't play their natural play ex. even if Embiid and AD can shoot outside, some night they could 3/4. But that doesnt mean they can be 9/12 if they shoot more

[@slickshotzz13]

That's the point Shannon is making, if lebron were to play the same role as Jordan, given his efficiency, he'd average about 32 ppg given in those 4 extra shots he makes 2.

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Skip: 2015-2017 is ancient history Also skip: keeps bringing up lebron's 2011 meltdown

[@MikeBNumba6]

Why wouldn't he? People say Jordan won because his teams were way better. That year, LeBron lost to a team they should have beaten and they lost because of LeBron.

[@ItsLorV2]

@@MikeBNumba6 what do you mean why wouldn’t he? You can’t dismiss something by saying it’s ancient then bring up something that’s even more ancient. That’s hypocrisy at it’s finest

[@arizonaFIREent]

@@MikeBNumba6 that same Dallas team swept ballhog Kobe yet no one ever mentions that

[@graeadventures]

@@MikeBNumba6 Dallas is better Miami is just more famous coz of Bron, check the roster 1 by 1 and compare

[@jamal7071]

@@arizonaFIREent Isn’t Lebron supposedly better than Kobe tho? So that point is irrelevant.

[@rebornmotorsports1513]

I also love how Shannon forgets that lebron had 2 great rebounders in bosh and kevin love who when he got them were like 11 rebound a game guys.

[@chrismoneystl]

Facts!

[@rosegiadyu7432]

& he won ? that’s the point . when he can jus focus on scoring he wins when he have to do too much he loses

[@robertjordan7879]

Not when they played with him

[@agkizzy5405]

Look at there numbers when they played with him awful point

[@MadSwagMedia]

Bosh wasn’t consistent. There are times when Bosh have 3 rebounds in a playoff.

[@SirMonkRG]

I love every time Shannon says "Don't do that, Skip"😂😂😂

[@dstout2517]

thank god i was getting worried they would forget to talk about lebron today

[@ojoj5194]

haha good one

[@traybigs]

😅🤣😅😅

[@rollandcurtisoffExpoInThe30s]

5:00 How can Bayless have missed this one? The answer is Shaquille O’Neal because Shaq played with LeBron James just before LBJ took his talents to South Beach.

[@Talkboutitbeboutit]

Skip is old and Shannon Sharpe is talking so fast that's why skip can't catch on.

[@ixfrozensnipzxi1010]

When he was 37 lmao

[@TayG_9Deuce]

Shaq? Really? How old was Shaq and what year was he in when he went to Cleveland? Dwade carried him and LeBron got the scraps of Shaq

[@leojmatt]

9:10 what is Shannon talking about? Over Jordan's 6 championship seasons, he averaged 30.5 ppg. In the playoffs that jumped up to 32.6 ppg. So saying that Jordan did not win when he was scoring 30+ ppg, is simply wrong.

[@MR.__G]

Jordan had a 36 ppg avg during his first 3 peats Shannon needs to be drug tested lol. He be acting like he didn’t watch Jordan’s career

[@starfireprincess]

And I hate when he drags kobe name in the dirt to uplift lebron.

[@AllBackends]

@@starfireprincess When has ever dragged Kobe’s named in dirt lmao

[@starfireprincess]

@@AllBackends "if lebron had shaq for 8 years he would've won 8" umm did he forget lebron had shaq in Cleveland and they didn't vibe well at all?

[@starfireprincess]

Sometimes he so desperately try to defend lebron he forgets reality

[@anthonyjacksonjr4812]

I love how Shannon and Skip go back and forth with Lebron and MJ facts because it reminds me of a brotherly squabble about who's guy is better. 🤣🤣 Great stuff.

[@IDK-rb1yv]

Shannon always makes good valid points and skip is just like "No"

[@shaunphillips3236]

@@IDK-rb1yv Skip makes points BUT he doesn't do any research on MJ & u could tell because his POV is based all on memory & his passion for the GOAT. Yet, he could shut Shannon down quickly with a couple of quick reminders & he doesn't

[@FENCEGENERAL]

I remember when Kobe put Pau on the deck first time he played against him in the Olympics. Bron, D Wade, Carmelo and the rest of the young guys were mind blown that he did that. That is a great example of the different in mindsets IMO

[@destro1716]

Jordan averages 5 assist and 6 rebounds.. Along with averaging more blocks and steals than lebron so how was he just a scorer??

[@thebenc1537]

He averaged 8 assists one year, 8 rebounds another year and 40 points another year. He was capable of doing everything Lebron does and much much more.

[@GtheGreat1]

Exactly. Shannon act like Jordan averaged 2 rebounds and 3 ast for his career. Jordan is a better all around player than lebron. He's a better offensive and defensive player, plus a better leader. Jordan got more out of his teammates than lebron. Lebrons teammates fail him because lebron is not a great leader, and he blames them when things go wrong.

[@dukeb1342]

@@GtheGreat1 and u wonder why??? Nobody wanted to play with Jordan but back then u wasnt just getting out no contract to play with a super team. Basically Bron could of played the same selfish way like jordan and shoot all them shots and Jordan blamed alot on his teammates but nobody talks about that. If i had to choose i would play with Lebron.

[@GtheGreat1]

@@dukeb1342 you would choose lebron because he doesn't hold people accountable, he's not a great leader.Larry bird said it best: if I want to have fun I'll play with lebron, if I want to win I'll play with kobe. Jordan was demanding and won 6 rings because of it. He got the best out of his teammates. Lebron has superteams and still losses because of his bad leadership and ball dominance

[@simple45679]

@@dukeb1342 Jordan doesn't go out to press conferences and make excuses like Lebron. He puts in work in practice to MAKE his teammates ready for the big moment. Jordan didn't throw his team under the bus like Lebron has done, multiple times now.

[@bozolozo21]

“Michael Jordan won championships with Bill Wennington”…..😂

[@williebender1895]

Lol

[@gproperty209]

Facts 😂😂

[@jimmyb4361]

Lebron brought bums to the finals what’s ur point.

[@purposeandgoals1189]

@Andre Samuels while playing against Duncan Ginobili parker Kawhi kd steph klay green

[@josephbrandon276]

@Andre Samuels no he didnt it's not facts smh do you remember they all get hurt in the finals once but Bosh smh

[@jegca]

Shannon is acting like MJ's career average is 30/0/0... LOL

[@Big_3000]

Exactly 😂

[@bobbyvalentino6773]

Lmao this sums it up right here lol

[@princeason7227]

Damn near close

[@Datboyjoc]

😂😂😂

[@dbreiden83080]

Of course not but Michael Jordan cared about leading the league in scoring every year he even said it multiple times. He took more shots than anybody eight times.

[@mrblue3879]

Im a LeBron fan but I love skips trolling man's said cubic zirconia championship 🤣🤣 14:30

[@mocweezee]

Funny how skip didn’t want to refute the fact LBJ players 3 years longer than MJ and still has fewer shot attempts. That actually is incredible!!!

[@francoismerieux8770]

You’re not a LeBron’s fan. The latest doesn’t love anything about this POS …. Smart people either, by the way… Only Trolls do.

[@benbarson2810]

@@francoismerieux8770 it’s not that serious

[@francoismerieux8770]

@@benbarson2810 ???? What does that mean ? I do not have a right to reply ?

[@hussonnkingsr]

It was funny 2 yrs ago where you been, it's dry now

[@Dymez510]

Shannon: “Man I wish LeBron would’ve played with a guy like Rodman or Shaq….” Man’s just threw Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD and Westbrook under the bus 😂😂😂😂

[@frederickephran8762]

I don’t think you understand that pippen and Rodman were not the offensive talents . They were all time defenders so mjs job was to score .

[@Dymez510]

@@frederickephran8762 duh

[@MR.__G]

I don’t understand why they hype up Rodman like that. Yes he was an amazing rebounder & hustle player. But they act like he was a superstar. Rodman was never even the best player on his champion teams, let alone any team he was on

[@darnells.1558]

Good point,Shannon act like LeBron didn't have stars.

[@cuamagfamily2300]

He meant early on in his career, also, none of the players you mentioned never will come close to shaq

[@ijayrizzy3116]

2:03 OUTTA BOUNDS!! SHANNON 😂

[@notcoolkev3770]

Stop letting the media fan boys make things up for lebron. And don’t let his tweets fool you. 50 point games 1. Wilt 118 2. Jordan 31 3. Kobe 25 7. Lebron/lillard 12 60 point games 1. Wilt 32 2. Kobe 6 3. Jordan 4 4. Harden 4 5. Baylor 3 6. Lillard 3 40 point games 1. Wilt 221 2. Jordan 173 3. Kobe 122 11. Lebron 66

[@MikeBNumba6]

They could have said this and ended the conversation

[@dynamic6645]

You Jordan fans say LeBron has better stats than Jordan because LeBron played more seasons, lol, it's not about how many games/seasons you play, jordan on average attempted 23 shots per game in the season, lebron 19.

[@MikeBNumba6]

@@dynamic6645 so you're saying if LeBron shot 5 more times he could do the same? I still disagree because LeBron is a worse free throw shooter and worse at jump shots.. I guess if he drives to the basket 5 more times and not get fouled then sure. But that's a big if

[@torycaswell4204]

Good point

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

Lebron James total 3 pointers made: 1,979 Michael Jordan total 3 pointers made: 581 Jordan may take more shots but he doesnt shoot the 3 like this era does. Jordan averaged over 30 points taking 2 pointers. That's why he has more of a shot selection.

[@billwill2693]

You do realize lebron average alot of those points below the 3 point line he just started really shooting 3 in 2018 go look at his averages early on

[@shaneanthonyy]

@@billwill2693 you just helped that mans argument

[@billwill2693]

@@shaneanthonyy No I'm saying lebron I'd better 2 point scorer than mike. MJ had the moves lebron did it at rim. This guy is making it sound like lebron needed 3s to score 30 and he didn't

[@Josh-sk5xd]

@@billwill2693 Again MJ is also the better 2pt scorer compared to Lebron since MJ has 30k points scored in 2pts in 15 seasons and Lebron has 29K points scored in 2pts in 18 seasons smh!

[@billwill2693]

@@Josh-sk5xd Lebron has not passed MJ in field goal attempts if Lebron shot the ball as much as mj did per season he would probably have scored 50000 points in his career it took Lebron 5 extra season to get close to mike in FG Attempts. Give Lebron his credit

[@ShermanSitter]

This is great satire. Both of these guys are comic geniuses! :)

[@kase121]

If you listen to Shannon Sharpe you’d never believe LeBron played with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, KLove or AD

[@tylerwest3161]

None those players are better then Shaq give bron shaq his 8 yrs he would have 7 rings by now

[@Terror832]

@@tylerwest3161 if LeBron was drafted by the Pistons in 03 and Darko went #1 overall to Cavs there will be two things happening. 1. City of Cleveland will riot 2. LeBron starts his career off with a 5 peat possibly? 04,05,06,07, and 08.

[@kase121]

@@tylerwest3161 LeBron went 6 against an unhealthy 5th seed with AD on his team. There’s no way he wins 7 with Shaq from 96 to 04

[@tylerwest3161]

@@kase121 bro are dumb or something Shaq was literally unstoppable you put him in the pick and roll with bron how are you stopping them

[@august6281]

yes, he could avg 30+ but we can never tell if that will translate to more wins, more rings

[@B.Piercesports]

Thats why he didn't

[@TreyDoe]

Exactly

[@lessthanaminutenbaclips7409]

It would result on more rings. He would have won 2011, and won the rest that he won.

[@AnthonyOfficial_]

@@lessthanaminutenbaclips7409 maybe 2011 but he was averaging 30 against the Spurs and Warriors every time he lost..

[@B.Piercesports]

@@lessthanaminutenbaclips7409 he wasn't aggressive that series

[@keiffybby6471]

Bron was a better all around player than when he was 18. Jordan was getting cut from high-school Bron was reviving a nba franchise

[@LelekPLN]

How many times did Jordan average 30+ when he was winning championships, Shannon? 5 times if you round it, 4 if you use decimals. Only one he didn't make it, is his last season in Chicago where he played with an injured shooting finger and played in the slowest paced season of the 90's where no one really shined in terms of scoring. He still averaged way over 30 in the Play Offs, though. Actually Jordan has been the MVP, Finals MVP, scoring champion and Play Offs scoring champion (all way over 30 ppg) in 4 seasons. 1991, 1992, 1996 and 1998 (at age 35!). All other players in NBA history? 1 time! Shaq in 2000, which was a historic year for him, that noone else was able to reach... except it was the norm for Jordan. That's how much Jordan dominated the league.

[@recca7]

preach it skip!

[@sharifnasser7635]

Get em skip. Dont buy into the narrative though. Jordan and Lebron both have dominated their time. Same way shaq has. So on..This show just makes villains and heros for money

[@11bornrich]

He said when he was averaging 36 or 37 I think.

[@LelekPLN]

@Doc Holliday i didn't say he didn't win. Just that he didn't average 30ppg. Read it again.

[@LelekPLN]

@@sharifnasser7635 No doubt. Just like Magic and Bird in the 80s or Kobe and Duncan in 2000s. LeBron is an all-time great, top 5. But Jordan dominated like no other. Only Wilt could compare individually. His stats are inflated, though, due to the league's fastest pace ever which resulted in absurd rebounding and scoring numbers but if you look at it closely Wilt is nowhere near the top in rebounding %. And he obviously never had the team success that Jordan had. Kareem had great team success but 4/6 tiles came after he stopped being the leader of the team. That's a worse ratio than Kobe. Russell obviously is the gold standard for winning but this was a team effort and he was a poor offensive player. Amazing athlete and defender that he was. MJ did it all. He was both the best individual and team player of his time, which is extremely rare. Even if we take out the MVP awards from my original post, only Kareem (x1) and Shaq (x1) have won a championship the same year they were scoring champions. Jordan did it all 6 times he won the championship! Plus 4 other scoring championships in his early seasons.

[@gd9205]

LeBron and Jordan could be in wheelchairs and Skip would use LeBrons wheelchair speed against his legacy.

[@datjitdj1695]

Ong lebron can’t even post on Instagram without it going against his greatness

[@yomommalikethismeat9968]

That’s cause you LBJ stans overhype Lebron to no end.

[@Lifeofalexp1]

@@yomommalikethismeat9968 and mj fans don’t !!????

[@shaneanthonyy]

@@Lifeofalexp1 nah we dont lol. Bron stans are OD and MJ fans just laughing at yall man

[@jacobfarley247]

@@shaneanthonyy Jesus get off mj’s jockstrap already

[@RS-Caleb]

Shannon got him at 13:00, numbers speak for themself

[@keynondemmings8160]

Shannon bring up players like, Kerr, BJ Armstrong, Cartwright and Rodman like they were All-stars lol

[@famousdex1782]

@stevenadkins6 “they were all great role players” says this while only bringing up the names you know. How bout Armstrong? Cartwright? They didn’t go to the hall of fame or have a high 3pt%

[@smokeabaguhthat5443]

@stevenadkins6 ROLE players ain't ALLSTAR..one time Rodman grabbed 40+ rebounds and didnt score a single basket in two games back to back ..lebron wouldve had him traded!

[@MR.__G]

@stevenadkins6 Rodman was never a superstar. He was never a star player in the league. He was never a top 20 player in the league. He was never the best player on his team, let alone any of his 5 champion rosters. Rodman was the greatest reb & hustle player. Stop making it seem like he was more than that.

[@xavierhebert397]

Bro finally somebody said it if skip would do some research he would destroy Shannon on the debates

[@Ballinho97]

@@MR.__G you just said it bro the best rebounder and one of the best defenders in the league at that time, is that good? Basketball isn’t all about scoring you know

[@Epiphda1]

OMG stop it man.... He's not MJ... There's a reason he doesn't shoot as much as Jordan he doesn't have that mentality like Mike did period...this is just another attempt to feed into the BS plzzzzzz stop it HE'S not MJ. Mike hitting free throws with his eyes closed & Bron struggling with his open. Nuff said

[@patrickdiew2271]

Lol facts

[@jacobfarley247]

Because jordan isn’t a team player

[@ballermvtb4853]

Jordan can’t hit 3s tho but mentality bro

[@Epiphda1]

@@ballermvtb4853 If you seen him play 3's wasn't his game but he cld have adjusted easily....but why when offensively he was unstoppable!

[@Epiphda1]

@@jacobfarley247 LoL...tell that to anyone that played with him that has multiple rings.

[@samuelclark1677]

The name of this show should be Undisputed with Skip, Shannon and Lebron

[@HensumBoi]

Terrible logic by Shannon. The more shots you take in a game usually means your efficiency starts to drop. Otherwise you can argue DeAndre Jordan could average 50 if he took >30 shots too (his career FG% is 67.4%).

[@obiwanyutuben]

He gave you the math. Lebron has games where he averaged as many shots as Jordan and his efficiency stayed the same. Are you okay man? What's up with your listening comprehension.

[@obiwanyutuben]

@@paradigmshift7541 oh so if lbj takes more shots he would take more of the shots he makes less of? And you know that how? Lbj has taken more shots and his efficiency was the same on average. Lowest is 49%

[@lastofthestarmakers3660]

@@obiwanyutuben Bro it’s alot harder to have great efficiency taking volume shots outside the paint. This is a fact. Not to take away from scorers who mainly score from inside but it’s not comparable to scorers who mainly shoot the ball.

[@nick2gateway581]

Bro you gotta use common sense too lmao. And for Lebron that’s only like a 4-6 point jump, so his efficiency won’t significantly dip on a few more shots a game

[@notcoolkev3770]

Thanks you

[@shroudedghosthunter8463]

Jordan averaged a little over 5 assists a game. That's pretty damn good considering he's always mentioned as the greatest scorer. Also 6 boards.

[@felipe5955]

My thing with Jordan is he was just way above the talent level in his era. He didn’t have to battle against a single top 20 all time perimeter player (In their Prime). I would love to see him go against the more skilled and athletic guards that he opened the door for. No doubt he would still be a best but his competition was overrated af. Centers dominated the game back then not wings like today

[@jlnxn5374]

@@felipe5955 I would agree with you but Jordan came back with the wiz as an old man who was out of the league and still dropped points on good defenders, think he scored 40+ on Ron arrest after Ron was already a dpoy if I’m not mistaken , and that’s when he’s 38-40

[@andyheath5244]

@@felipe5955 Gary Payton, penny, grant hill, Isaiah Thomas, magic Johnson also he faced Kobe, AI, Vince Carter, t-mac in their prime when he came back at 40 after 3 years off and averaged 23 with the wizards

[@felipe5955]

@Brian Gore Your missing my point. Jordan is a generational talent. Just like Lebron, Kobe, Magic, Bird etc he would be great in any era. I’m just saying Jordan faced weaker competition for the most part. Magic had Larry to duel. Bron had the spurs dynasty, GSW and KD as his main rivals. Kobe had the spurs dynasty also. The biggest rival jordan had were the pistons who led by Isaiah Thomas.

[@jackjax7921]

Yeah they swept 3 year Kobe Lmao

[@frankieboy8414]

Did Shannon just say Lebron never had another guy like Charles Oakley?? Lmaooo

[@skipbayless4375]

Shannon: I wish i could've seen Lebron with Shaq. Lebron teammates: AD, Westbrook, Kyrie, K Love, Bosh, Wade

[@DTS_I]

Technically LeBron did play with Shaq lmao

[@kase121]

@Joseph Brown how many rings do you think Shaq won without Kobe dummie?

[@skipbayless4375]

@Joseph Brown Yeah, and that player won with Shaq as his teammate and won finals MVP over shaq averaging 35 ppg in the finals 😂😂😂

[@DTS_I]

@CUBAthaGOAT Shaq is Shaq

[@kase121]

@Joseph Brown well If you did have a profile pic it would be easier sir

[@NoonyJW]

That 50PPG could’ve come in handy in them 6 finals losses 👀

[@bambam23406]

Coulda helped Jordan make the playoffs or make it to the finals just as many times

[@Terror832]

Wish LeBron could face EDP Malone and Philippe Stockton instead of MVP prime Kevin Durant and Stephen Curry

[@TommyDavidVerbal]

@@bambam23406 and still has less finals wins. Work twice as much to still not have 6.

[@kingp7768]

@@Terror832 EDP malone 🤣🤣

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

@@bambam23406 he made less times coz he played less years and still won more, hold this L

[@poindexterflex3528]

Every time Shannon starts with this kind of argument, all you have to do is site Jordan's 88-89 season. 32/8/8, almost 3 steals per game, lead the league in minutes, shot 54% from the floors (as a 2 guard!!!) and 85% from the line. Lebron has never had a season like this in his entire career.

[@joostwillem8596]

Did he win anything?

[@salman13]

so basically James Harden from the Houston era and did not win. Do you realize 85% from the line is ONLY ONE MORE FT MADE more per game than Bron? On 100, it makes a difference but if both were shooting about 7 or 8 per game....it's one FT made. would you really think you'd see Bron as a great FT shooter is nobody mentioned % and just said one more a game? that's how insignificant it is. MJ would not average 40 per game like old fans think. when the hand check rules were removed , players didn't start to score way more. this is a fact. they just talk like they did. there were players who were better than MJ from long range even in his era yet ...MJ 's career 3% is very very close to what Giannis had last 2 years. an uber competitive guy like MJ tried to shoot 3s at a higher rate but he was a 32% guy. he would have to take more shots than Harden because his 3 isn't as good and get just as many, if not more , free throws. that type of player is easy to shut down today. there's a reason we don't play the triangle anymore because it's been rendered useless but it worked vs the lame rules from the 90s.

[@TheSantaClaus1983]

The bulls got to the conference finals that year

[@J4den444]

@@joostwillem8596 You shouldn't even bring up winning if irons lost nearly double the amount of times hes won. "Winning" should never be uttered out of a Lebron fans mouth.

[@joostwillem8596]

@@J4den444 cap

[@bartphilips2222]

Jordan (6'6) offensive rebounds career average : 1.6 LeBron (6'9) offensive rebounds career average: 1.2 Jordan never told teammates to leave him uncontested defensive rebounds to pad stats. he didn't care.

[@theadwatcher5335]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes because Lebron tells everybody while playing Dont rebound the ball I’ll grab every rebound.

[@LoftyXsWaGX34]

What exactly was this stat suppose to prove? Bron still averages more rebounds and assist because he had a bigger role. Mj was always just a scorer. Explain the stat tho I don’t see what you were trying to prove.

[@bartphilips2222]

@@theadwatcher5335 that's what he does to catch the ghost from Chicago.

[@bartphilips2222]

@@LoftyXsWaGX34 these stats were supposed to prove that you're a bronsexual. thank you for participating in this social experiment.

[@theadwatcher5335]

@@bartphilips2222 😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s pure facts that Lebron is a better rebounder and assister than Kobe and Jordan but it’s ok your not ready to accept that.

[@zinjgreen3398]

If Lebron shot more he wouldn't have that much assist either.

[@iluvcakes19]

True, something's gotta give.. That or his efficiency

[@shaneanthonyy]

Its a very phony argument innit ?

[@jasonandyjoseph]

@@shaneanthonyy I agree with you. This debate is tired and full of it.

[@blackmarlin3166]

Check their usage rate. Lebron's highest usage rate in any season ranks only number 50 all-time while mj has 4 seasons in the top 50, westbrook and harden also has 4. Lebron could easily up his points and assist all together if only he ballhogged.

[@zinjgreen3398]

@@blackmarlin3166 if he is efficient he can, but you can't say that because Lebron had the all time in turnovers, if the defender know Lebron wouldn't pass they can easily guard him Lebron had no go to move to be an effecient scorer.

[@Mektek19]

You can't make it seem like Bron was some solo act his entire career when he played with Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, AD, Howard, and now Westbrook.

[@MaybachThree]

This dude just said “2015-2017 is becoming ancient history” I’m done with this whole show. Thanks skip

[@raheemwilson894]

yet still he always brings up the 2017 finals for kd

[@breakemoff9648]

Yet he still brings up Tebow's halftime speech from over a decade ago 😆

[@AllBackends]

And he still brings up the 2011 and 2013 Finals😭

[@light_skit]

@@AllBackends “the chose one became the frozen one”

[@jamesanderson2248]

👏THANK YOU!!!!..Skip does that hypocritical ish whenever it benefits him .. Glad to know others caught that also!!!

[@africangamerr]

Shannon’s research guy needs a promotion 1:00 - 1:17 that’s some very good stats

[@SkyrimChicken]

It's a conceiving stat, Lebron shoots the most from 0-3ft from the rim and makes ~65%.. excluding his shots from 0-3ft he shoots ~37%.. so Lebron isn't a great shooter and that's why his FG% is higher than MJ's, as anywhere on the court (excluding 0-3ft) MJ shoots ~50%

[@denzelodimara2947]

@@SkyrimChicken that’s just not true at all Lebrons midrange shooting from 8-12ft gotta be around 50%

[@africangamerr]

@@SkyrimChicken ok… doesn’t take away it’s a great stat that required tons of research

[@cannibalmanimal2336]

Damn right, either way you mix it no matter how much he shoots he hits half. The closer the shots the higher the percentage of course, but along w that comes the extra fouls & free throws so either way it’s advantage him.

[@nvorg1]

Mike won defensive player of the year. To say that he was only a scorer is ridiculous.

[@osseyf.4120]

Whenever Skip is on the defensive and clutching for straws you can see it in his demeanour and how he talks 🤣

[@rl1491]

U a psychologists?

[@osseyf.4120]

@@rl1491 No you don't need to be one to study human behaviour and body language.

[@Mashingbutton28]

Facts. When skip has his back to the he sqirms like a worm on a hook. Man is always biting his lip and and always back tracking

[@signaturesneakers267]

Michael Jordan is the Greatest ever and will remain the greatest Shannon and Lebron are pissing me off so disrespectful

[@patrickdiew2271]

Lol facts

[@jacobfarley247]

Aw u getting mad😢

[@jacobfarley247]

Kareem is better than mj

[@dewman7477]

@@jacobfarley247 Kareem only flaw is that he has less finals mvps than MJ. Kareem only has 2 finals mvps while MJ has 6 finals mvps. And MJ has 5 mvps in regular season while Kareem has 6. MJ has more individual accomplishments than Kareem (although Kareem leafs scoring in nba history MJ has highest scoring average in nba history).

[@solidophidian]

7:18 skip starts talking and I cut out

[@richnxtdoor]

*Shannon continuing to prove Skip wrong* *Skip* - “LeBrick, LeCoulda, LeShoulda, LeFirstRound” 😂

[@SpFlash1523]

LeGone.

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

LeMissedtheplayoffs3x lmao

[@wild100sQ]

Jordan was 9x All NBA Defense and 3x Steals Champion. Jordan is the only player since 1973-74 (when steals and blocks were first recorded) to submit 200 steals and 100 blocks in two different seasons. He didn't just score Shannon damn. We can Google this information..... damn. And Jordan retired twice. He left points off his career too....

[@torycaswell4204]

Good point

[@justinmorales1511]

"You a hater" 🤣🤣 Shannon cracks me up

[@realisreal7736]

If LeBron played defense the way MJ did, he'd have made NBA all defense team 9 times with at least one DPOY

[@williebender1895]

Lol facts

[@ng7214]

but in the playoffs statistically he has defended better than jordan and could guard all 5 positions, who cares about regular season awards

[@dododump3144]

He should’ve won dpoy in 2013

[@DeloFFF]

@@ng7214 no real old guy big types in today’s NBA . He should be able to guard all 5

[@NotLikeUss]

If MJ was asked to handle the ball as much as LeBron he would have at least one ALOY. Two different players playing two different roles.

[@themightyruler1319]

People forget Jordan averaged a ridiculous triple double when asked to run point, completely destroying the league. The man put up 32/8/8 with all time great defense and people who don’t know the sport will tell you he wasn’t getting teammates involved 😂 Jordan was one of, if not the greatest playmaker in NBA history. He was an unmatched perimeter threat, with very underrated IQ, ball handling, craftiness, and versatile passing with very good accuracy. What he slightly lacks in pure passing, he more than made up for that with his unmatched ability to draw defenses and get great looks for his teammates in the half and open court, in combination with his all time great finishing ability.

[@heywella]

Yea. People forget about him running the point. I also don't think LeBron is that much better of a passer than MJ like most people do. MJ made some of the craziest assists I've ever seen. Especially during that last 3 peat. His court vision was just as good as LeBron's is imo.

[@themightyruler1319]

@@heywella I agree, but Jordan was such an amazing scorer (10 scoring titles 😂), that his overall game is heavily disrespected by the media and casual fans. He was as good a defender at his position as anyone that ever played, he was as good a playmaker at his position as anyone that ever played, and imo the best scorer ever. If he didn’t miss multiple seasons he would’ve been the all time leading scorer as well.

[@chasedmelo1072]

You’re smoking on rocks. Unmatched perimeter threat? You going off 2k MyTeam rating or sum😂😂 best playmaker ever? This one of the most biased takes I’ve ever heard😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chasedmelo1072]

The worst part is I bet you never watched MJ play live or on TV but you got all this to say 😂😂

[@themightyruler1319]

@@chasedmelo1072 all i did was state facts 🤷🏽‍♂️ You don’t gotta like it, but the petty insults are silly, I won’t dignify that 😆 Jordan was as good as any defensive 2 guard in nba history, many would say he’s the best, which is very strongly backed by statistics.☑️ Jordan has the record for PPG and scoring titles, despite missing 3 years out of his prime where he likely picks up 3 more 😂 and breezes past Kareem on the all time list. ☑️ And he’s one of, if not the greatest playmaker in NBA history, despite the narrative the mainstream media will feed you ☑️ Again, you don’t have to like it, you can have your own opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@deonmckinney1498]

the most adequate thing skip said "the objective of basketball is scoring"

[@MINK2393]

I don’t wanna hear Shannon Sharpe talk anything basketball related… Especially when it comes to Lebron James…. It’s like Skip talking Tom Brady or Jordan…

[@coldwolf7014]

Name one thing he said today that was wrong? This was directed at Skip Bayless who gives Lebron no credit. So Skip won’t give Lebron credit for getting to the finals in 07 and dominating for a decade and have superior competition in the finals, but gives MJ all the credit even tho he also didn’t win his first 6 years in the league and was focused on scoring and didn’t want to change anything until Phil got there so they can share the ball and be an actual team.

[@tigerhoods7927]

Facts

[@rose-jo1dx]

Lebron shot less but has more points

[@chuckbarkley2755]

I agree w Shannon. But if mj shot the same as a career in the era bron is he’d average more because of the freedom of movement in this era and more space because of the role player shooters

[@forzaacmilan36]

I hate when people do this argument because imagine lebron in an era with out zone? They litterally tried to make the nba easier for MJ

[@chuckbarkley2755]

But Lebeon plays in era where every single team plays man for 95% of the game

[@bigchungus7050]

@@chuckbarkley2755 they play man but switch alot they didn't do that in the 80s

[@thebenc1537]

Jordan averaged 40 in a time he got beat up by giants guarding the paint.

[@James_utd123]

@@forzaacmilan36 Juve are clear

[@albertopineda462]

kyrie, wade, love, bosh, allen, AD, ain't this enough? Reblon gets every credit when he wins like he won alone, then he had no help when he loses. Why is that?

[@blackice51374]

😂 every post I seen like this forgot the main argument. What position Shaq plays? What position the ones you mentioned play excluding Bosh and no Bosh is no where near Shaq😂

[@albertopineda462]

@@blackice51374 dude, shannon tryin to act like Reblon had no help, he played with all time great caliber guards and forwards, reblon has always stacked his team to win and despite that he lost more than he won, you casually dismissing AD is the point. Should kyrie and wade play center to be considered as help?

[@famethadon6310]

@UCN8qNIfqUjWbDvZ1hPHk1_g you're a clown 🤡

[@derekbanks7377]

Same thing apply to MJ!!

[@DJ.Generation]

Shannon "He didn't have a rebounder" Varajou Shaq Chris Bosh Kevin Love AD Dwight Howard Drummond Gasol 🤷🏾‍♂

[@geraldworldwide23]

I’ll give you Bosh and love but the rest you gotta be joking

[@icetray2727]

LeBron usually scores on layups, dunks, and putbacks (0-3 feet).

[@christianwhite7294]

Jordan also scored mostly from this range🤦🏾‍♂️ he was just a better mid range shooter while lebron is a better finisher

[@cedricrichardsonsr1057]

🤓 bad eyes huh? LeBron shot way better from 3 than Kobe and Jordan check the status

[@cedricrichardsonsr1057]

@@paradigmshift7541 989 career blocks 2063 steals is cherry-picking lmao this the NBA not pick up basketball at the YMCA

[@DragonoftheDarknessFlame]

and still passed Jordan with 1.2K fewer shots

[@tb4151]

Bruh Jordan literally scored most of his points from that same range

[@dantealoving]

Its easier to score nowadays. In Jordans era every team had 7 footers patrolling the paint and goons put in to give hard fouls.

[@kiltz1161]

Yeah cause there's no 7 footers in the league today

[@jakirohiro1960]

@@kiltz1161i think his point was big men stayed strictly in the paint. While usually big men are used to spread the floor these days so it opens up the paint more to drive

[@boldandbrash259]

In today's time we have big men who can shoot

[@warrengaytero1682]

Dou you think they will slow down lebron? Im not even a LeBron fan but that guy is a freak of nature and super athletic and one of the best finisher

[@J4den444]

@@warrengaytero1682 Yes they would. Hes suer athletic not fuckign Thanos. He simply would have a harder time scoring. Bro gets most his points off riving and has a mediocre mid range game at best. This era has 7 footers shooting 30 foot bombs. He dosent have to worry about getting clobbered at the rim every single drive. In a more paint dominant NBA, LEbron, the man who score this points by driving INTO THE PAINT is gonna have a harder time. This why ppl hate bron fans. Most of y'all are children and can't think critically.

[@starscream11216]

Does Shannon not know that Jordan was averaging 30 during the season for some of those championship runs or is his love for Lebron crying his memory?

[@MR.__G]

All of his champion runs he did. He avg 33 in the playoffs & finals for his career.

[@TrollinOn22s]

LeBron passed MJ with fewer shot attempts so I'm not sure why we're having a discussion.

[@MR.__G]

@@TrollinOn22s because he took way more 3s than mj. By a large margin. That’s why.

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

@@MR.__G nah, it’s coz he played more seasons

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

@Michael Martin that’s still an pro for playing 4 more seasons

[@KleinpeterHank]

There’s been 8 times in modern NBA history where the scoring title winner also won the championship. 6 of those times it was Jordan

[@dynamic6645]

The game is a team sport you casual

[@KleinpeterHank]

@@dynamic6645 Thanks. Didnt know.

[@dynamic6645]

@@KleinpeterHank your comment clearly shows it lmao

[@MR.__G]

@@dynamic6645 so if you’re coaching the best scorer ever you wouldn’t put him in position to attempt the most shots on the team ?

[@dynamic6645]

@King Dunbar Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy, lol

[@ronaldsmith6871]

Let's See when Jordan Won his first Scoring title they Said No guard has ever won a Championship but he Won 6

[@ChillydontCap]

No guard? And here I thought every team has 2 starting guards. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@vigneshakkina211]

Isiah? Magic?

[@ronaldsmith6871]

@@vigneshakkina211 like i said when Michael Came into the NBA hadn't no Scoring Champion ever won the Chip you See that's all they had because Mj was Winning Scoring title's and hadn't Won the Chip yet!!

[@waltlove8137]

Every debate is either about Lebron,the Cowboys or Brady. Starting to get old 🤦‍♂️

[@dntgshot1236]

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN STOP WATCHING NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO VIEW THE SHOW!!!!!!

[@torycaswell4204]

Ya this show and espn as a whole kinda sucks now

[@waltlove8137]

@@dntgshot1236thanks. I didnt lol

[@SNIPEonSIGHT]

Yet you keep coming bck here like us. They must be doing some right

[@waltlove8137]

@@SNIPEonSIGHT u must know me.. I actually read the topic of the debate before watching . So yea I'll be back when they "get it right" and actually have a debate worth watching.

[@alajouwanturner6438]

Free throws is skip only arguement for everything 😂

[@smokeabaguhthat5443]

Right! He couldve said a.lot more but clearly he got that tap on the shoulder to chill .. now all he does is complain about the free throws..

[@ressestevenson7309]

You 2 lebron buthole fans no damn well leflop can't shoot free throws.

[@ressestevenson7309]

Tell me where skip is lying at

[@smokeabaguhthat5443]

@@ressestevenson7309 can u read bro? How did u come to the conclusion we are lebron fans dipsh!+?

[@coryc7056]

Tru goats know they are intangibles like free throws can make champion or leave your team without a ring

[@rambooo2534]

Love em or hate em you have to admit that the day LeBron retires it’s going to be such a sad day around the WORLD dude has given us nothing but entertainment for nearly 20 years

[@chainreaction1703]

His retirement will be good content for at least a year.

[@ireplytostupidpeople4750]

Pretty sure majority of the world don't follow basketball. Just the sad truth. Basketball is only big in US and Phillipines

[@JstnRbnsn]

They’ll just start comparing the next guy to LeBron AND Jordan so I feel sorry for him 😂

[@JstnRbnsn]

@@ireplytostupidpeople4750 pretty sure every part of that sentence means you should be replying to yourself. Just the sad truth.

[@ireplytostupidpeople4750]

@@JstnRbnsn lol don't get offended by the truth. Basketball is just not big outside of the states and in Phillipines. I'm a fan of basketball as well, does it really matter if its big or not? Does it change the game? Stop crying buddy

[@dasafact3828]

SHANNON WILL MAKE IT HIS LIFE GOAL TO MAKE PPL BELIEVE BRON NEVER HAD GREAT TEAMMATES 🤦🏾‍♂️ sad at this point.

[@ivanpuzjak821]

Just like yall and Skippy here are tryin to make ppl belive MJ did it by himself...

[@heemboy7572]

Seriously Lol He Had Kyrie, Wade, Bosh And Now AD

[@antronrowell]

He never said that he only saying that bc he never had a teammate like shaq he had great teammates just not like shaq

[@gnicevids]

@@ivanpuzjak821 I know right. Make all MJs teammates look bad and not good so they can make MJ look better

[@heemboy7572]

@@antronrowell he's trying to make it like he never had a guy to rebound, when Tristan Thompson was a good rebounder

[@Mateo-rd7jw]

Shannon still pronouncing Mozgov as “Mozgodov” 😂

[@andrewtaylor995]

In MJ's 88-89 season he averaged 32.5 pts/8 rebounds/8 assists. That looks like a lot more than just scoring Shannon.

[@cloutscout1003]

Those stats are crazy but to be fair he played 41 minutes a night which is crazy high and also impressive how his body was able to withstand all those minutes

[@NBAKING149]

Misleading stats is wat they call it wen westbrook does it and loses

[@whenisdinner2137]

​@@NBAKING149 what you're forgetting is that Michael Jordan was all-nba defense so he's not just wasting all his energy on offense and doing nothing on the other end like Westbrook

[@stonetoadaustin528]

And they did a whole buncha losing. Ive seen bron do the same exact statline in 07 and lose in the finals. Nobody cares about nothing unless you win a ring. Bulls team got more complete. It allowed jordan to score and play defense his natural two best talents.

[@frederickfutrell993]

One season ? 😂 whoaaa Lebron does it every season any great can do that for one

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

Shannon just made another case for Jordan "half of them couldnt play today" Referring to Jordan's teammates, exactly Shannon Jordan played with plumbers for most of his entire career.

[@toddjoseph2412]

That goes both ways, he was also playing largely against plumbers.

[@shaunphillips3236]

@@toddjoseph2412 the amount of ignorance in that post is utterly ridiculous smfh

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

@@shaunphillips3236 really? All I did was point out that Jordan had a lot of bum teammates.

[@TheWolfster]

First, lebron had kevin love. Kevin Love actually led the league in rebounding. Second. Kobe outscored shaq in almost all their playoff games so shannon point is

[@gentlemen639]

Right? Lebron had no help though.

[@booncapalot3299]

So you comparing kevin love to shaq 😭😭 stop it. Kevin love ain't no scrub tho

[@loue17]

So why does shaq have 3 finals mvps

[@jonathanfletcher7615]

Kobe has how many finals mvps

[@loue17]

@@jonathanfletcher7615 2...

[@jeanpayano1506]

Shannon always trying to descredit Kobe bruh Bron played with Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, Davis and now he has Westbrook too Shannon stop talking basketball 🙃🙃🙃

[@jayan5221]

lebum was never "ASKED"... he chose to play that way... much less pressure to make that pass then put up heat checks with the game on the line...

[@butimarealist007]

Mike had Rodman for 3 seasons! Not his entire career

[@FruityBoyToy]

3 championship years. They also had Horace Grant for the other three rings and Scottie for all 6

[@d.a.b2374]

Oakley and grant....so whats your argument

[@FruityBoyToy]

@@d.a.b2374 He had two great rebounders even without Rodman and it allowed to MJ to focus just on scoring while LeBron has had to do everything for his team since day 1

[@quintonluster4886]

That how he got the second 3 peat. Rodman. One man recking crew on defence and rebounding. Incredible. He shut down one of the most Dominant big men in NBA history to help send the Bulls along with Jordan to another title . He should have been MVP of the finals Bulls vs Super Sonics. Oh yes. M Jordan gets too much credit for those 6 rings. MJ had superteams. The best of help. LOL 😂.

[@quintonluster4886]

@@FruityBoyToy M Jordan had superteams. He had the best of help. Ron Harper was no slouch. Very good defender. Toni Tucoach was a smooth scorer and good defender. The list goes on and on. Michael Jordan had really great help. That's why i got King James as the goat over Michael Jordan. King James literally had to do more and he did . Michael Jordan never had face a scorer like KD who also had the better team . GS. If he did , somebody please name him. Make sure he's dam near 7' feet tall. Lol.

[@JayDay32]

If Lebron passed more he could average as many as Magic, if Lebron rebounded more he could average as much as Rodman, if he had more all star teammates he could have more rings than Russell, if he played as much defense as Payton he could have as many steals, if he played defense as much as MJ and Hakeem he could have averaged a DPOY per year. Lots of ifs, even more Nots. The fact is he didn’t concentrate on any of this and fell short in all of them.

[@TommyDavidVerbal]

Michael Jordan averaged 30 points 4 times when winning CHIPS so I don't know what Shannon REMEDIAL Sharpe is saying

[@dynamic6645]

Let me rephrase it for you: Michael Jordan averaged 30 points 4 times when *THE BULLS* were winning chips

[@Big_3000]

@@dynamic6645 tf is the difference? MJ was on the bulls lol

[@gabrielherrera7263]

Was talking about his 38 ppg type seasons

[@booncapalot3299]

He not even arguing the fact that jordan didn't do those things 😂. He saying lebron could've scored the same of he shot more but that's not the only thing he asked to do

[@krelilkre]

Shannon is very articulate. And knows history like no other.

[@nucl3arboNg]

You know Shannon has lost when he says Jordan had Bill Wennington lol

[@ressestevenson7309]

😄😄

[@ladellmimms]

The late great Bill Wennington😅

[@mauricedoug314]

If we’re going to credit DEREK FISHER for initiating the offense, there is NO WAY Shannon gets away w/ “LeBron always had to initiate the offense”. Mo Williams, D. Wade, & Kyrie were all WAY better & now, he has Westbrook. Count Mario Chalmers too. Not saying he was better but he was at LEAST D. Fish level

[@Tonio5100]

Shannon literally said how many titles did Jordan win when averaging 30.......... Well Shannon he won 4 of his 6 scoring 30 in the regular season and for the PLAYOFFS he averaged 30 or more for ALL SIX TITLES 😂🤣😂 also why does Shannon talk as if Jordan & Kobe ONLY score & did nothing else like they didn't rebound & assist at ALL TIME LEVELS for SGs PLUS 1st team all defense every night smh

[@theadwatcher5335]

Kobe and Jordan aren’t even in the top 5 for all time assist as a shooting for so I don’t know where you got your information from and yes Jordan could rebound better than most shooting guards all time but he played 300 to 400 more games than most shooting guards so he was going to average more

[@marcusjames9353]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Tonio5100]

@@theadwatcher5335 that's why AVERAGES are a BETTER judge than totals unless the compared players played the same amount of games but thats what career AVERAGES are for..... Names the SGs with better AVERAGES than Jordan & Kobe in rebounding & assist & that list will be very short cause off the top I can only think of Clyde Drexler & Wade with numbers in they ball park

[@theadwatcher5335]

@@Tonio5100 I’m not going to put every single person but AI James harden Reggie theus Clyde and wade are al above Jordan and Kobe in assist Kobe isn’t even top 10 in assist he’s like 13th or 14th

[@theadwatcher5335]

@@Tonio5100 if you wanna see all of them you can look them up yourself but them being all time greats in rebounding and assisting is false. Lebron is a all time great no matter the position when it comes to assisting 8th all time assisting and 3rd in points ever and 42nd in rebounds ever

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Sugar Ray Robinson boxed 80 years ago. How come people don't say boxers are more skilled now? MJ played around the same time as Bird, Magic, Tyson, Deion, Bo, and young Kobe. Make it seem he played 200 years ago.. 🤣

[@Stillbetter2930]

Bron played from 2003 ... So basically bron and kobe played for almost 13 years in the league same time yet no one calls the "league was soft" when it comes to late great Bean Bryant's conversation.. The whole league was soft comes for bron only

[@paulranalli3367]

LeBron would have averaged 30 just by hitting a free more free throws each game, didn't even need to take more shots .. Skip made the point!

[@pol44r]

But mj took 3 less 3 pointers than LeBron per game , and shot just 3 more FG per game , that is simply not true what Shannon says

[@rovingwarrior3710]

And is Shannon somehow implying that Lebron would have more rings if he had shot the ball more and would not have lost 6 times in the finals? If Lebron could have won more by shooting more, then he is a coward for not doing so and a coward can't be the GOAT.

[@aaronarguelles8322]

And if he had gone 6 for 6 with 6 finals mvps he’d have done that. But do you LBJ

[@raingeart1]

Skip should mention the fact Jordan owns the record for leading the league in scoring and winning titles in the same year nice round number 6

[@shaqdaddy789]

Are we ever gonna talk about the fact that Lebron averages almost 4 turnovers a game?? Meanwhile He averages 7 assists per game for his career. He’s low key a turnover machine.

[@ButteryAssNigga]

Most turnovers in nba history by far.

[@linkueiwarriorkamaal9876]

4 turnovers a game is not that much if it were 12 turnovers or 15 turnovers a game then I could understand you saying that but 4 turnovers is not that many turnovers so your wrong

[@shaqdaddy789]

@@linkueiwarriorkamaal9876 his assists and turnovers are almost the same as far as averages go. Lebron has double the turnovers per game that Chris Paul has and Chris averages more assists. Im not saying Lebron is a bad passer but he is more average than most people care to admit.

[@niggilywiggily]

@@shaqdaddy789 boa😂😂😂

[@ellisonjordan7915]

Magic averages more turnovers per game I believe

[@osayande6979]

Mike was a much better all around player than he’s given credit for. He had a stretch in 1990 when he was forced to play point guard because Pippen was out. He had 10 straight triple doubles while averaging over 30 points a game. It was a record until Westbrook broke it a few years ago

[@OGmyOG]

he had 10 straight triple doubles when his team went 13-11 with a cast that won 27 before drafting him ' at the same age without mo-wlliams lebron went 11-0 with help that won 18 without him the next year with a similar rotation and 19 without him over 14-games from 08-10 jordan is an all-around slashline packer. He's nowhere near Lebron as a playmaker or floor-general. Stop box-watching

[@mindlink1811]

If you transplanted the 90s bulls into today's era and they practiced three point shooting, they would win 6 chips in a row with Jordan averaging 45 points a game.

[@alexdelarge703]

I mean this is straight facts

[@rakimgreaves-lee3971]

And if MJ played in this era he would average 40

[@kennyhernandez06]

Old head

[@tankballer1874]

Not true lol

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

Facts

[@adammcg7115]

On 30+ shots

[@rakimgreaves-lee3971]

@@kennyhernandez06 I'm 20

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

2:25 in the early 2000s/2018 cavs and 2019 lakers he had the opportunity to score more coz those were the only years he didn’t have HOF teammates basically

[@Ryan-mn7gm]

My man skip really quoted hamlet

[@vyshak4455]

In my head Lebron took less shots cause he later had teammates like D Wade, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, Anthony Davis, Ray Allen etc.

[@ressestevenson7309]

Thank you

[@kevionwhite8806]

He was a team player ever since he pick up the basketball

[@foots4141]

Lebron took 5738 3 pointers and made1979 of them while Jordan took 1778 and made 581. Lebron is a career 34.5 percentage and Jordan is 32.7. Lebron has 5334 points from 3s and Jordan only has 1743 points from 3s. It’s easy to pass someone on less shots when you have almost 3600 more points on 3s.

[@greg2797]

I think you meant to just put Kyrie, Dwade and AD. Bosh, Love and Ray Allen didn’t shoot a lot of shots. And Scottie attempted around the same amount of shots as AD, Dwade and Kyrie. I think i get what you are trying to say but even recently when it’s just been Bron and AD LeBron still hasn’t cracked even shooting 19 shots per game let alone 22~23 shots a game. I think it’s just mind set. If MJ wanted to he could’ve had a lot more assists (but less points). If Bron wanted to he could’ve scored a lot more points (but less assists). They both could’ve honestly avg a whole bunch of points and assists but then they probably wouldn’t of had the energy to play as good defense and they probably wouldn’t have won as much chips because you have to get your teammates involved somehow. They have to rebound, assist, score or something

[@luiszimbron2]

Find you a spouse that supports you the way Shannon supports Lebron! 😂

[@sheribryant6994]

lmao give it up for bill wellington :)

[@rainsworth-]

LeBron doesn't need to play defense his fans does it for him. Good lord lmao

[@peterjo5215]

Does Shannon not realize that MJ is the most efficient scorer ever at his peak and it’s not even close.

[@adammcg7115]

Let me go get my cap🧢

[@jacobfaltine7687]

So is Lebron😭u need to watch more basketball

[@almir908]

@@adammcg7115 Go get your own cap. Hes speaking knowledge he dont need his

[@lastofthestarmakers3660]

@@jacobfaltine7687 there can’t be two number 1s in efficient scoring LOL. Lebron is up there but MJ edges him in overall scoring efficiency for his career.

[@wishman822]

@@adammcg7115 get your own cap

[@davidserrano5817]

Saying Lebron could just shoot more is like saying MJ could just pass more and average the same amount of assists as LBJ like it doesn’t really change anything

[@merciless2062]

Skip: MJ is 20-0 in the finals Shannon: but lebrons 0-25 in the finals so he’s been there more

[@NBAKING149]

One of the worse takes i ever seen

[@merciless2062]

@@NBAKING149 MJ >>> Lebum

[@NBAKING149]

@@merciless2062 your opinion.. and whether u like lebron or not we all know bron is not a bum

[@merciless2062]

@Pallani imagine being so salty tht MJ is the goat not Lebum tht u comment on something from 4 weeks ago to make urself feel better😭😭😭

[@merciless2062]

@@NBAKING149 lebron is still an all time great but he’s still not MJ’s level. Face the facts bruh

[@zicomoney3696]

If KD shot as much as lebron he would average 40

[@Terror832]

If Steph Curry shot as much as either he would average 40+ PPG. Over half of his field goal attempts are 3 point attempts.

[@ethanhansen1479]

Actually on about two less shot attempts kd averages the same ppg for his career as lebron. So kd would easily average more points

[@TheSastoke]

he literally averages 18.5 shots per game while LeBron averages 19.5 per game while not being nearly the passer LeBron is, what are you on about?

[@TheSastoke]

@@Terror832 he shoots 1 FGA less than KD and averages 3 points less, you guys are beyond delusional

[@zicomoney3696]

@@ethanhansen1479 actually it’s 3 more than KD and that’s a lot in basketball for averages. And if you 2 more shots is nothing then Shannon has no point in this video because Jordan only averaged 2 more shots than lebron and averaged more points

[@chebarthompson4030]

As I continue to watch the video Im sitting here listening thinking wtf is this logic