If the Pac-12 Can Get 1 Or 2 More Schools They Can Immediately Regain Power 5 Status | Tim Brando

[@MrJrock52]

PAC may not be power 5 yet but if they get Memphis and Tulane it’s easily the best G5. So what the difference? Be the best G5 or worse P5?

[@moostymoosty7857]

Yeah at that point it's pretty much conference champ makes the playoff every time not much difference

[@mrwonderfulone]

There is a ton of money from the CFP for conferences for 'official' power five status. Tens of millions per school per year difference.

[@joeargyle]

What does P5 status even mean anymore? Technically its not a factor for the playoff. Playoff takes the top 5 highest ranked FBS conference champions, the top 4 conference champs get a first round bye. There is no auto bid for conference affiliation alone. While it's unlikely that a mid major conference champ would take a spot over a P4/P5, it's not impossible. Cincinnati would have been the 4 seed in 2021 as a mid major champ. This P5 status argument really does nothing for the new Pac 12. Even if they're labeled as such they're still facing an uphill battle for a favorable ranking from the selection committee.

[@richardsignature1]

The only teams in the current Big 12 who never been in a Power conference is BYU & UCF and BYU was a successful Independent school with a massive following and UCF has one of the largest enrollment and one of the upcoming athletic departments, The PAC 12 only have 2 teams with Power conference history. How would they be considered a power conference?

[@prman9984]

Fun fact. Both BYU & UCF have national championships.

[@JasonE1972]

@@prman9984UCF doesn’t.

[@webmoore4353]

@@prman9984no they don’t

[@tbx59]

Eventually Ohio State and Alabama are going to stop sharing with Indiana and Miss. State and are going to fully breakaway and form a premiere league. Set-up the Pac to be a solid regional conference to compete in the 40-60 team Division 1b that will form outside the wake of that. (eventually with 2 or more coming back like Cal, ASU, UofA, Houston, etc).

[@ScottWylie-si8jx]

I think along those same lines. It is now set up to be minor league NFL. We need 2 divisions. Let the 'haves' outspend each other and keep CFB tradition alive with another division.

[@webmoore4353]

Yeah no

[@drummssticks]

If the football teams keep beating BIG12 and BIG10 teams and show how competitive they are, they will become a power conference again. It may take 5 years but i can see them getting that status back.

[@mathewblood5113]

Yep, agree 100%. It’s going to be a development process for sure.

[@sdtsimonjela]

The AAC schools should tread carefully with this decision. If they make the move, some or all WILL end up like Nebraska after their move from the Big 12 to the B1G. Never seeing any championship glory and middling in the mid to lower tiers of the conference. Except they won't have the pile of cash Nebraska does to help them with all of the L's.

[@mathewblood5113]

I’m not so sure that’s accurate. I think it would be a pretty competitive conference.

[@sdtsimonjela]

@mathewblood5113 I'm sure Nebraska thought the same thing. Besides the Big 12, none of these other conferences have much parity. The SEC is going to be Georgia, Alabama, Florida, or LSU. The B1G is mostly Michigan or Ohio State, The original Pac was Wash, Ore, USC, and Utah once they joined. So you will have 2-4 schools that will rise to the top of this new Pac 12, It's stats. Brett McMurphy recently wrote an article about the success of dominant teams that change conferences. Their life in the new conference isn't as grand.👀

[@waltercole5024]

@sdtsimonjela 21st-century reality !!! There are so many comments on here that are based on fantasy and wishful thinking. It's good to see someone looking through the eyes of reality. The P4 is not and will not share any more of the playoff money than they have to. That being said, the G5 will only get 1 school out of 5 or 6 conferences no matter how they align themselves. If Tulane ,South Florida, Memphis, UTSA, unlike Nebraska ,Rutgers in B1G, is getting truckloads of money. Wants to travel across the( with all their sports) country only to make maybe 2 or 3 million dollars more only to get the same chances for the playoffs doesn't make sense to me 🤔🙄

[@tilu3303]

I know what conferences are considered to be the "power" coferences, but what is the criteria for being one?

[@mathewblood5113]

It’s basically who has the most money, biggest football brands. Which have all been basically consolidated at this point outside of Wazzu and Oregon State who have been left behind for some odd reason. They are great football brands, but I guess it’s because of their geographic location in small towns? Wazzu has massive pull in the Seattle market though so idk…

[@scottrichardson3961]

Pac commissioner will be pushing title XI....Barbara Hedges ruined UW Husky men's programs for over a decade!! During her tenure Husky women won both volleyball and softball titles...but men's programs sucked....post Don James era.

[@jerichoreed22]

If this was all it took to be a P5, the Mountain West and AAC and C-USA, etc would already be 'power' conferences

[@bobgonzalez5845]

In this current landscape of conference realignment, if you are just standing still you will be left behind! These 6 teams are already the best of the “Group of 5” and with the addition of a few more key institutions, who knows? The MWC, AAC and C-USA will drop in status if they lose any more teams. It’s now a fight for survival and the PAC-12 wants to survive.

[@cougsjohnson1]

That's not how it works. They look at the body of Teams, Top to Bottom. Even though the Mountain West has had individual past Seasons which made them as good as the P-5, the Teams at the bottom half, held them back from being a Permanent Power 5 Conference.

[@bobgonzalez5845]

@@cougsjohnson1 That’s exactly how it works, otherwise the Big-10 would have taken Washington State and Oregon State also. Each league looks at the value these institutions will bring them. The Big-10 wanted USC and UCLA so they can recruit in the high school football hotbed of Southern California. They took Washington and Oregon because they are perennial powerhouses. According to your reasoning, Washington State and Oregon State held the PAC-12 back. Wouldn’t it have been easier to merge the remaining 2 teams with the Mountain West? NO, because the PAC-12 wants brand recognition and Television markets and not necessarily win/loss records. You and I can disagree all we want to, but the fact of the matter is, your team is fighting for survival.

[@abqnm8811]

Except they are looking to take the elite of each conference. Spread apart, they do not constitute a power conference, but combined is a different story.

[@michaelwall3393]

@@bobgonzalez5845that is so not true. First of all the AAC top to bottom has been better than the four schools taken out of MWC and added to OzzU and WazzU. Also the MWC as a whole has been behind both AAC and SBC in performance in regular season play and postseason play and the MAC has been better than the MWC a few years the past 12 years along with one or two seasons by CUSA before being gutted by three NonAutonomy conferences. In the last two seasons of the BCS and throughout the NY6/CFP4-team selection process of the last ten seasons the AAC has been superior to the four teams grabbed by the PAC. Other teams that have been better are App State, CCU, Toledo, Miami-Ohio, Ohio, WKU (most seasons), UAB, UTSA, JMU, ULL, Marshall (under Doc Holliday not Huff), within the MWC itself you could say Utah State and Wyoming and even Air Force would have been better choices than Fresno State, Colorado State, and possibly San Diego State (although this school has been more successful than not), UNT, FAU, USF, both Army and Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis, Arkansas State most years, and other schools. The only consistent winner added was Boise State and their academics are atrocious to say that kindly. They are not going to regain Autonomy status because the AAC actually had 7 (would become 6 once Louisville went to ACC) schools that had Autonomy status plus 4 more schools that were once in an Autonomous Conference at least once if not 3-4 times in schools’ histories and were not allowed to retain Autonomy status nor regain autonomy status back after reaching several milestones and benchmarks of success and requirements for regaining autonomy status. So the PAC is not getting voted back into Autonomy status. Also there are no guarantees that the new PAC will make significant more revenue than AAC. That has yet to be seen and ESPN may very well give a little more to the AAC just to make sure rival networks don’t get into their current markets.

[@Cahluvca]

Definitely not a power conference

[@edwardmartinez6401]

I agree with you. The big 12 is definitely not a power 5 conference.

[@MattBuild4]

Why not? what do they have to do to be a P5 conference?

[@seanhyland4228]

​@@MattBuild4 Be relevant on the national stage and generate a hell of a lot more money and interest. It's not the Power 5 anymore, it's the power 4. And it's only a matter of time before it's the Power 2

[@zacharywaldher3849]

Go Cougs!!

[@kwikdraw01]

Not sure they will grant them P5 status but they will be very competitive. The second round they will probably add Memphis, Tulane and UNLV. Save two spots for CALFORD and they might be forced to add Nevada. That's 12 schools for the 2026 season.

[@doylemurphy152]

I think Calford would need to get out of a grant of rights with the ACC. Maybe the ACC would like to get rid of them to avoid cross country travel on the cheap. If Clemson and FSU stay, they may tell Calford to get SMU in the PAC.

[@xfacta334]

Stanford isn't coming back. They're going wherever Notre Dame takes them from this day forward. The Pac might get Cal back tho.....

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Very interesting.

[@robertstwocents]

Why would the P4 give another auto bid to the PAC 12? It would mean they would have to sacrifice a spot that one of their teams would fill. Big money. Is the PAC 12 going to pay the P4 for the 5th automatic bid?

[@awesome123306]

The Pac 12 today is the 5th best conference. If that's not a power 5 I'm what is

[@michaelwall3393]

The PAC is not the fifth best conference. Who are you kidding? Quit smoking dope! The fifth best conference this year is a toss up between three conferences and none are named PAC. Starting in 2026 the PAC will not be the fifth best because first season of the configuration it will have and in non conference games and conference games have yet to be announced or played or decided. As it stands, it is a battle between the AAC and SBC as to whom the fifth best conference is until further notice. Also the PAC is not regaining Power/Autonomy status. Tim Dumbo Bozo Brando is ignorantly unaware or conveniently unaware of how much has changed.

[@fer78130]

I don't see the PAC12 as a P4 conference. However with that said, the current six PAC12 schools are only a few points away from overtaking the lowest ranked P4 (ACC) based on computer rankings. I can see a situation where the PAC12 champion could be the 4th seed, bumping the lowest ranking P4 to the 5th seed.

[@dacokc]

P5? Maybe if Cal Stanford or one of the 4 corners came back. I don’t see Memphis or Tulane getting them there. Tulane has like 30,000 seat stadium. Memphis doesn’t have their own stadium. Those teams can make decent runs from time to time. I just don’t see ESPN coughing up P5 money for them.

[@anthonypandola5785]

The University of Memphis was given control of the Liberty Bowl from the City of Memphis as part of the deal with the state funds and FedEx donation. Still not an on campus stadium but we do officially have a stadium.

[@jcarbajal7348]

They don't need to make PWR4 money. The disparaging difference between non-pwr conferences and the PWR4 conferences is massive. We are talking complete opposite ends of the spectrum. The 4 MWC schools that were taken made about 5-7mil off their TV deals. What does an SEC or BIG conference school make? 60mil per school avg. maybe more...maybe alot more? If The new PAC schools can even get somewhere between 10-15mil, that is a huge step for most of these schools coming in. Thats a key word, "STEP". It is a step up which is a positive direction saught after by most schools who nowadays are being squashed down or left out by the PWR conferences.

[@Bill-c8r]

When the 220 million dollar renovation is completed it will be among the best stadiums in college football. BTW the stadium is just two miles from campus.​@anthonypandola5785

[@patrickepps7266]

Memphis currently owns Liberty stadium and its undergoing a 220 million dollar renovation

[@dg1019]

Technically as of June the stadium belongs to the U of M. Its not on the main campus but it is now theirs. BTW its just over 2 miles from the main campus.

[@htvlogs80]

Most of the Big12 teams came from the AAC.

[@michaelwall3393]

That is not true. Boy are you ignorant.

[@TheMastersaldivar]

In reality, its a P2 kinda world we live in.

[@clottadams5028]

Someone said, maybe it was BigTen or SEC commissioner, this is all leading to the top 60 teams breaking off and doing their own thing.

[@Mothball556]

If the playoff doesn’t recognize the power 2. It will eventually lead to the Big10, Sec and a few other schools leave.

[@BrentSchmurda]

The new Pac12 will definitely be a Top 5 leage. Question is should they be a power conference? Is less Power Conferences better for college football? Some would argue we already have a P2.

[@RavenThom]

matters not, top 5 conf get auto bid Even if ACC drops to 6th, no bid

[@waltercole5024]

@RavenThom Do you think the playoffs will pass on Clemson, Miami, Florida St, UNC for Boise State, Memphis, Colorado state, or Fresno State? Really ???

[@PolarStrong-p6o]

@@waltercole5024 absolutely

[@Mothball556]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Can we be honest about the different levels of football being played within Division 1 FBS? Because there are at least 3. It may lead to the Big10 and SEC separating to form their own league and playoff.

[@orangehoof]

Add UNLV, UTSA and Texas St. and you have a solid nine-team conference with some healthy rivalries.

[@ladariushall9277]

Conference won’t be anything without Memphis and Tulane

[@sdtsimonjela]

​@@ladariushall9277 why is that?

[@aflyer]

No thanks to each of those.

[@bryanpbrowning8620]

Conference needs to go big on this next wave or two......first wave was huge. Been a long time coming for Boise State to join the PAC conference......that being said the next wave or two needs to be just as huge. UTSA Texas State just don't fit that criteria.......

[@happiness9752]

If your mom can gain... 1 to 2 million bucks... Then maybe she'll be a catch

[@818MEX]

Oregon state and wsu joining the mwc would be a better conference.

[@mrwonderfulone]

Absurd!

[@garycole01]

MWC is not a brand like the PAC-12.

[@2k3SteedaGT]

Did this guy call in on a potato??

[@jdabomb8064]

😂

[@happiness9752]

He called in on your mom

[@jamesnapier5145]

Lol

[@scottrichardson3961]

Clickbait....not gonna happen!

[@seanevans9329]

I think the PAC 12 commissioner knows something we all don't know . She is super confident about the future of the league

[@waltercole5024]

@seanevans9329 Oregon State, Washington state, is trying to survive outside of a power conference ! That's the only reason they're trying restart the pac 12 with these G5 schools

[@htvlogs80]

She did a great job keeping the raiding of the mountain west on a down low.

[@scottrichardson3961]

A female commissioner is NEVER good for men's sports...can u say Title IX?

[@amac701]

Delusional

[@stephenbarcus]

19:30

[@sdtsimonjela]

Thank you for saving time!