If this HPI was a TRAXXAS, it would be Twice the Price!

[@tomley_rc]

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[@BobPavlow]

As cool as it looks, IMO, it’s a dog, and doesn’t seem to be that durable either. Here in the US that thing costs $185. The Gorgon is only $169. I realize everything’s not always about speed. But this thing only did 23mph on 3s! The Gorgon does 24-25mph on 2s. I enjoyed the video as always, Phil. But IMO this thing needs a lower price point.

[@tomley_rc]

Gorgon is the better deal for you guys in the US

[@janklaassen6404]

Here is the Netherlands, the Gorgon and Jumpshot MT are both 160 euro. I'd go for the Gorgon. But at 200 euro, you get the 50mph flux Jumpshot MT in yellow with black wheels. That's the real deal!

[@BobPavlow]

@@janklaassen6404 awesome. 😎 Yea I love my Gorgon. And I’m glad Phil gets a good deal on the jumpshot mt 2wd. Cause I know in the UK their prices are usually higher than here in the US.

[@BobPavlow]

@@tomley_rc yea I have the Gorgon and love it. I’m glad you got a good deal on this jumpshot mt 2wd Phil. Cause I know in the UK your prices are usually higher than ours. I really like this thing. But for me to be interested that price point would have to be closer to like $139-$149 USD to be tempted to grab one 😎

[@CommanderGoggle]

Every time I see that smoke stack in the speed run section, my mind goes straight to Pink Floyd's The Wall movie.

[@michaeldorich4485]

You gave it a very good test. I think they sell for about $185 in the U.S. Except for the motor moving it performed well. In past years I found that it was a good idea to check all the screws in the cheaper HPI models. The motor moving is an example on the ones you ran. As you said it would be great for beginners. Although this is a good price, I think to reach its former prominence HPI should sell them for an even lower price.

[@schoen88ss]

This is my problem with his review. They new owners of hpi just re-released the old versions of their vehicles and didn't fix any of the known problems, Almost zero customer support, and the same goes for replacement parts

[@tomley_rc]

Happens with a lot if manufactures unfortunately. Maybe some of it is down to the lack of social media/reviews years ago... so they just had to work on the 'warranty' claim stats. Who knows, but it would be good to see some changes

[@astridsactionrc545]

Between US Thanksgiving and Christmas, the Arrma Granite Voltage sells for less than $100 usd. Comes with charger 7.2v nimh battery and AA batteries.

[@tomley_rc]

Bargain!

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

I gave 4 Arrmas as gifts this year, very happy recipients. That granite voltage was an absolute steal.

[@janklaassen6404]

The flux monster truck is a wheelie beast by the way. Very exciting to drive.

[@tomley_rc]

Yes, the Flux is a beast

[@The94gtmoose]

Love the content, keep it coming. Just found this channel after a 25+ year hiatus from the hobby. Been binge watching every chance I get. Very palatable content. I even entered the raffle.

[@RoostedFilms]

3:48 "track start" 4:10 "stop read" No need to thank me. I do it for the people 😂

[@tomley_rc]

hahaha.. I'll block you!

[@RoostedFilms]

@@tomley_rc 😂

[@tonofun]

What kind of place is where you're jumping over the small hills? Need to find somewhere similar local to me for my kids RC car...

[@isquish]

I prefer the body shell on this HPI. I'd buy the flux and this body

[@martinfrederiksen7319]

I have this exact truck, and it worked for about a week and then it started only going 50% power.. dealer wont do anything.. So frustrating. If you have a HPI contact, please share :)

[@TomleyRC]

Furst

[@wordreet]

LoL, I think I paid just 20 less than that for my used Rustler! Ok it was vgc and came with 2 lipos radio and charger. Hmm, I do like the look of that chassis tough!

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

The build components and quality all seem so good, it's a wonder they aren't more popular. It's a shame the prices match the big US brands over here in the states. I really like the twin vert plate chassis from a design perspective.

[@toddstephens2030]

They're within the European prices on ebay, I picked up a Jumpshot SC flux roller for $139 after watching the comparison. I've got extra of the other bits so I'd rather run my good stuff right away.

[@billc9635]

So what is a "good" cheap brushless setup you recommend?

[@MarcRCAddict]

I definitely agree with the title if the hpi was traxxas it would nearly be twice the price but would also be twice the quality. Lol come on haters?

[@janklaassen6404]

Nice to see the 3s gps check. It would still have lost the speed test shootout, but sti. Thanks for posting.

[@paulmcnamara2908]

Proper bargain for the money! Always had the same motor moving issue on the 2wd Stampede VXL too if you ever jumped it!

[@wheelsdownrc6348]

In the beginning, I was going to comment that it’s probably perfect for a kid and doesn’t need to be very fast brushed. Good thing I watched the whole video.😂😂

[@tomley_rc]

hahahahaha

[@jz64]

Thank God it broke I was falling asleep with bordum lol what piece of crap . TOMLEY U know this too 😂

[@tobydyes]

will the pins go in the body you need a rubber washer stopped the body from rattling

[@sy55legrc]

I’ve got the Jumpshot SC Flux on route, can’t wait to get hold of it. Really good review and for the money it’s pretty dam good that like

[@rcjunior888]

Thé Granite Voltage might be a competitor

[@BuzzBuggiesRCChannel]

I've got the flux and the Saturn one they both great infact I prefer the Saturn it handles abit better with it been slower. Problem with the flux jumpshot is how do you steer if the front wheels ain't on the ground lol it's all fun tho. The steer rods come off alot so make sure to have spares. ❤

[@janklaassen6404]

The flux version can come with black rims as well, making it look a bit more modern.

[@callunsford4938]

I'm pretty sure it's not a monster truck if it's only two-wheel drive 🤔🤔🤔

[@thibster5590]

Looks good but the Arrma Gorgon is the better choice, IMO

[@benjaminbenson8714]

Do all RC cars have chronic bump steer?

[@kashmurray1199]

Still a neat truck with potential.

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome bashing and review, Phil! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@tomley_rc]

Cheers dude

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

Nice truck, regards the speed turn the speed limiter up on the Transmitter, i bet you get another 3-5 mph

[@tomley_rc]

What speed limiter? I checked the end points and they were set correctly

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

there 3 pot adjusters on that handset that you use the little plastic screwdriver tool to adjust@@tomley_rc

[@tomley_rc]

Yes, end points were adjusted

[@blakamin]

Hi Phil, Are you able to tell us a bit about your camera setup? mainly the onboard and how you hold it on?

[@wadevallbona5314]

This is a good cheap budget truck. Even though it is only 2 wheel drive it seemed to do a good job. Going on my must have list for sure

[@beandean356]

Why do all RC cars have to be 4x4?

[@SApcGUY]

Love HPI but I feel they are a shell of what they used to be. They should rere the Wheely King

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

I want one. And for that price, a cheap brushless system could really wake it up and still be in it for less than 175

[@stevereeves2552]

Hey Tomley, love the channel! Question, what does BLX stand for?

[@TimG2553]

Nice truck ideal for a beginner not to powerful and controllable great way to learn RC

[@mikesmith8338]

I don't think I've seen a single video on any jumpshot in which motor didn't move and trash the spur. A massive QC failure or something wrong with design (metal insert vs full metal motor plate?).

[@tomley_rc]

Yes.. same as the Arrma Gorgon. Although seems that doesn't damage the gears. Both my Gorgons moved, 1 locked up the other went the opposite way and lost drive. No car should come out the factory and do that after a few runs

[@boduke9428]

​@@tomley_rcis only ran a couple packs thru my Gorgon before converting it to brushless and only a few since but my motor didn't move before or after. I did use the Hot Racing aluminum motor spacer, motor mount, and Servo saver. I couldn't figure out what actual purpose the mount was but maybe it's because of the movement complaints. I guess it worked because I crashed enough that I trashed the body despite several layers of Gorilla tape. I wanna say the mount and spacer were less than $10 each and both are red anodized aluminum.

[@stefancarlberg7806]

Nice video :) . Here in Sweden they are more expensive "if you fund them at all" But i did get a BSD BS232R Rampage XTE Orange V2 but i have not found any test on it cost around 400 pound here in Sweden sold by Hobbex . Not unpacket it yet Winter and want no snow and descent temp outside :) my first real RC car in 30 years :) Make a test on that or maybe is under another name in UK ?

[@SIRneb100]

Flux hpi st flux is definitely my buy. I love seeing hpi again

[@Rex_Stuph]

I have to admit that the 16 mph surprised me... Considering 35 years ago, RCCA clocked the Tamiya Blackfoot at 15 mph (NiCDs, of course). Backs my theory of if you see a sealed can motor with a fan on the stator... grain of salt.

[@tomley_rc]

Yeah, surprised me as well

[@AdityaSamant-i8c]

Love your videos a lot

[@RedLionRC]

Hm….. I would buy an arrma or traxxas. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@redvapez6771]

I still run my stock nitro mt2 racer... she old school, so old finding parts is comparable to actual car parts

[@shadyhazza]

i want the ST version just cos it looks cool. but that brushless upgrade on the flux does sound like a bargain!

[@beandean356]

Have it and its great for the money and it drifts around corners.

[@RoostedFilms]

I haven't watched this entire video yet but I can say at least if it's a Traxxas you get tech support & pretty good spares availability. Cheers for the review

[@tomley_rc]

In the US yes... not so much in the UK

[@RoostedFilms]

@@tomley_rc interesting you blokes always getting the shaft over there 👉🏻 🌏

[@AdityaSamant-i8c]

Please do a review for mn models mn 82

[@idan678]

why did you create a second channel?

[@robhotson1882]

Hpi used to be expensive on around the same price point as Traxxas when the WR8 Flux first came out. I think there prices just didnt go up.

[@tomley_rc]

Yeah, and they have some good stuff coming too!

[@robhotson1882]

@@tomley_rc sweet the maverick brand was also excellent bt more affordable

[@christophermears7738]

Yup twice the price and it be broken in 60 seconds if it was a traxxas lol

[@gingerdude94]

Seems like it'd be underwhelming tbh, better to spend more Dosh for more Bosh than be disappointed

[@littlezeb777]

How much did HPI pay you for this add? Gorgon is way better for the.price. It rips

[@tomley_rc]

Yes, Gorgon is better.... you should check out my 'shoot out' on my main channel with this HPI Vs a Gorgon & Traxxas Stampede ;). Then ask me how much they paid me

[@dellystinky]

Budget and it's not a Banggood special 🤣🤣🤣

[@brianlangford7278]

Always the same good for beginners, yeah but I imagine most viewers on all channels are not beginners, dint even get me started on skatepark vidios

[@tobydyes]

how long did it take you to get to 10000 subscribers this channel

[@tobydyes]

same car from last video

[@tomley_rc]

Good observation lol

[@tobydyes]

put a little weight in the front and it will stop

[@julianorozco761]

Muy buenos dias Mr Tomley como estas , es un poco lento el auto pero divertido para aprender a controlar el auto , saludos y muchas gracias desde Panama city

[@tobydyes]

try a 2s with a higher c rating

[@Rangiora12345]

The same could be said about axial don’t just pick traxxas again

[@allenmichaud1605]

It's a great looking car and seems to be rugged with that truss style frame. But with how cost effective it is to be faster why make it slow. In my mind if a kid was given that and his neighbor had a gorgon or a 2wd rustler he would put it away and play video games. It's the nicest slow truck made? My boy is 3. I built him a cross rc emo. I'm going to mount a tonka truck body on it

[@janklaassen6404]

The gorgon does 24mph, that's almost the same as the 23mph this brushed hpi does.

[@karlc9773]

The worst thing is the plastic looking silver wheels

[@janklaassen6404]

Yeah, there is an Mt flux though with black wheels.

[@TidyRC]

I will never buy or own any of these . But cheers for the vid Phil

[@kel5944]

Not into bashers?

[@shelly6482]

Why?

[@beandean356]

Reasons?

[@tomley_rc]

People always say things like this but give no reasons lol

[@TidyRC]

Coz they are cheap and nasty and slow as. They just aren’t for me.

[@romisilvente1670]

Good video friend, I would like you to try the Hsp brand model Xstr Pro, they will surprise you, they are cheap, tough and they run a lot. Greetings❤

[@thatsmyrc]

Save your money for so many reasons 🤷🏻‍♂️there’s more out there to offer

[@tomley_rc]

'Many reasons', yet you have given us none?

[@RACEABLE]

mediocre in every aspect

[@JohnSteed-gs5bb]

But Traxxas has the much better spare part service.

[@coyoteden3773]

It also wouldn't be so dang ugly

[@brianlangford7278]

Hpi or traxxas,not much interest in brushed cars

[@grumpygrandpa3640]

Clever I see what you did there 2wd but if you look at 4wd as well does it still offer that value ? FTX carnage 2.0 brushed 4wd is cheaper and decent for the money then for just £10 more you can get the maverick brushed range 4wd for the new version, and £20 cheaper for the older version ! This is why I hate KZbinrs they only give half the story. Guess you got a new deal going with HPI Phil 😂

[@tomley_rc]

Maverick are owed by HPI you fool... and I also do a lot of work for CML who own FTX lol. You hate all these 'KZbinrs' yet you make sure you watch them so you can moan about stuff.

[@jz64]

Those trucks are they slowest pieces of junk ever don't waste your money save it for a Maxx or a Xmaxx.

[@tomley_rc]

A Maxx îs around 600, an Xmaxx is 10x the cost... and lets be honest, the Xmaxx will break it's gears or destroy its tyres pretty quick

[@Billiamiscool]

So if you run it for a few minutes it kills itself? HPI continuing their outstanding build quality

[@jeremymiller2340]

😂

[@thepirateguy580]

Your second channel should have way more subscribers!

[@tobydyes]

the paying for the name Traxxas ain't no different than Mercedes BMW Audi range Rover what goes on and on

[@tomley_rc]

Yes... and all those car brands are no better than some of the cheaper ones either

[@tobydyes]

you can say that and a lot easier to work on 2

[@torpedoLaw]

I’m sick and tired of watching you test toys!!!!!!! Can real manufactures please send you the good stuff?????

[@tomley_rc]

Name a one of these real manufacturers for me, so I know what to look out for :)

[@tobydyes]

all cars today should do it a minimum of 40 miles per hour out the box

[@cazadon]

No do you really want people who have no idea on how to control an RC car to have a car that can do 40+ mph driving around you. That is why it's good to have a range of speeds out of the box

[@schoen88ss]

Still not worth the money.... complete trash considering they have never fixed the motors tendency to move and strip spur gears that are never in stock.......

[@tomley_rc]

I mean the Xmaxx eats its gears pretty frequently, and that costs nearly 10x as much as this haha

[@schoen88ss]

Hate to break the news but you didn't compare this to the xmaxx did you??? You compared this to the stampede, and both of those (stampede/xmaxx) have countless parts available to upgrade if you wanted. You can't say the same for hpi. And I do own a few hpi products, first was bought in 1993 when I was 14 . They are not worth the hassle. No customer support and no parts means you'll have a 180 dollar pile of spare parts for some other fool who wasted time and money when they could have gotten an Arrma or traxxas and never really have down time