If Triumph Made A Speed Twin R...

[@GooogleGoglee]

Triumph should absolutely put this model on series production!!

[@vacqi]

It already has: the fabulous thruxton R!

[@barkindustry8150]

As much as I love the Thruxton RS, this Speed Twin is a gorgeous, simplistic animal. 17k seems a bit ouchies for some forks/caliper and rear shocks in my opinion. Great video none the less. Thanks for sharing :)

[@infovet2679]

just take thruxton R and put a speedtwin hand bar on it ))) much more cheaper

[@brookcampbell2940]

They are giving away the Matte Black and Silver RS models for 2-3,000 less then MSRP. You can get Free Spirits Fat Bar or Tracker kit for $700 and a Speed Twin tank for -$1,000 in Black, and all of that less then 17,000. The RS motor is very noticebly more powerful (rode both at the dealer yesterday). Unfortunately I still cant decide which one to buy. I'm leaning Thruxton RS

[@obliviondio]

@@infovet2679 Thruxton has a different seat and wheels. Gets very pricey

[@SandrossAlim]

@@brookcampbell2940 I'm in the same predicament.. and they took off 3k on the RS at my local dealership, i might just pull the trigger..

[@brookcampbell2940]

@@SandrossAlim I purchased the Jet Black 2021 Thruxton RS. GET IT! Its awesome! Was in the fence with the Kawi z900rs, but just purchase a 2003 Kawi ZRX1200R Beast to quench my semi-vintage I-4 sound. I'm super happy now and done, until Harley releases the 1250 Rev Max Cafe Racer (if/when).

[@elietarazi8401]

Fantastic bike with awesome upgrades. Hopefully Triumph release a Speed Twin RS.

[@roberthall1437]

Great video Bob, it went by so fast. What a great looking bike. With the extra goodies on it, F& R suspension, super radial brakes, gold painted wheels and a muffler that's not too loud. I would've liked some gold pin striping on the fuel tank and lo and behold a JPS motorcycle, would sell like hot cakes. Well done Bob.

[@motobob]

Cheers RH - appreciate the feedback!

[@davidludlow1449]

Nice review. Now come on triumph, we want an R! Not an RS or a TFC, just an R. Make it what it needs to be.

[@kignacio]

What about an RS-RR-R? 🏴‍☠️

[@davidludlow1449]

@@kignacio 🤣🤣🤣 or that!

[@kignacio]

David Ludlow 😆 all joking aside, I think the Bobber TFC fork would be perfect for this bike.

[@davidludlow1449]

@@kignacio yes, definitely. Black Ohlins. 👌 nice

[@Adam.Hughes]

Kolder vibes at the start there mate! Nice work, cracking video as always! 100% keen for a Speed Triple R.

[@motobob]

Cheers AH! Much appreciated

[@RichardRaueiser]

I got a speed twin, upgraded with öhlins shocks and fork inserts, a bigger rear sprocket, a pair of Vance & Hines, a washable air filter, and a pair of Pirelli MT60 RS. Super happy with it.

[@jonnathanmejia1423]

I really like the photos and slow shots that you usually take in your triumph videos. Triumph should use them in their advertising 👏

[@TheTwinPost]

Your editing skills are lit 🔥 That intro with b-rolls matching each and every beat of the song....that was absolutely amazing 🙌

[@motobob]

Thanks! Much appreciated - enjoyed making that intro

[@LucasSi919]

yes! this thing is beautiful. i definitely think there will be a speed twin R or RS its just a matter of time. Another amazing review MOTOBOB. thank you for the amazing work you put in into these videos

[@davelawrence594]

Triumph should really make this bike I certainty would be tempted to buy one especially if triumph throw in a decent choice of colours like all manufacturers not enough colour Scheme's to choose from!! 🙄🥺 Great comparison video Fella keep up the great reviews!! 👌🏻👍🏻

[@eastbaymauiboy]

I LOVE it!!, it's gorgeous!!. Gonna have to wait til 2022 when the dealerships need to get rid of em and sell em for around $12,000, like they are the 'older' Thruxton R's , then maybe I'll finance one. It needs to be in the garage next to it's brother (or cousin?), the 13 Speedie R. I do super wish it had a 180 or 190 rear tho!

[@SoulofMachine]

Looks like a great bike with all the extra upgrades. Loved the shoot at the track, great vid. Subbed!

[@motobob]

Thanks! And welcome :)

[@johnnyViDeO]

Sharp looking bike and sounds mellow. The gold wheels and forks make the look.

[@oliviervidal4051]

Triumph doit produire cette machine en serie, elle est absolument exceptionnelle ! Ce serait bien.

[@petewebb6952]

Just when i thought it couldn’t get any better... (pretty happy with my stock speed twin with V&H though).

[@ralfhedstrom]

Love it :) Classic look with modern handling/breaking. Guess I have to rob a bank to get one of these over to Norway, the land of insane taxes :/

[@niceviewoverthere4463]

The Speed Twin is a great thing as standard. In its defence, at first I thought the suspension was harsh and bumpy but 6,000Km have mellowed it amazingly. I've had six Triumphs now and all of them have improved up to 8,000Km then stayed consistent up to 60,000Km - the longest I've kept one before being lured back in...

[@Jambome]

Jack Lilley blew it right out of the ball park with this. Hinckley(or is it Thailand), take note!

[@lynsmith1096]

Good review and the Speed Twin R does look and sound a lot better.

[@Brian-ti7cg]

I have a 2021 speed twin, and just got the rear Ohlins installed, with Akra mufflers, x pipe and got everything powder coated black. The last mod is the front Ohlins, looks great.

[@fredthebarber]

Beauty job there, Bob! Good to see your content ever improving. I really hate the gold colour on the parts, but that bike looks and sounds wonderful.

[@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778]

I'd like to see a T120 R. So much of a bike speaks to the aesthetic and the T120 just has what it takes; full wrap mud guard, pea-shooter exhaust, nice touring riding position. One can of course easily up-grade their own T120 with Fox Shocks and MeerKat X-pipe, but upgrading the wheels, brakes and fork are a more difficult DIY; so it would be nice if the Triumph factory or dealers would offer a T120 package with Thruxton-grade brakes and suspension.

[@motojc]

exactly what I wish would have done to the ST (minus the gold). But at that price, I wonder if it is easier and even cheaper to get a Thruxton and change the gas tank and seat and fender to that of the ST...

[@fernandoadami5919]

And also the footpegs to mqtch ST riding position

[@Dirkadew]

This exactly what I’m doing to my speed twin. Can probably make a video if anyone is interested

[@BerserkerRider94]

Alright I'll watch it when its ready

[@petersimmonds4319]

Same as be interested

[@mrburrbab5305]

Obviously bullshit then

[@SarinEA]

Still waiting

[@Dirkadew]

Hey sorry about failing to make a video. My gopro died and I only recorded swapping out the rear shocks. I was doing this in a parking structure too so I didn’t want to leave all my tools and parts laying around while the GoPro charged. Anyways here’s a picture of the front end off and how it looks completed. Fairly easy to do honestly. Couple generic front end swap videos on KZbin and I’m sure you can follow along with the service manual. imgur.com/a/Lvr7qkR

[@ianbendall3116]

I seen it on google images a week or so ago and instantly said I love it. Having had time to reflect, I think the rear suspension is ok as far as bling goes but the wheels and fork legs are a bit too much gold for me, I’d rather they were black, It also needs a decat x-pipe for a bit more growl. £17K is too steep for me but I do love it.

[@jjnewman65]

Agreed. I have recently bought a 2019 model and are making my own much cheaper modifications.

[@JohnCunningham-sy5ug]

I think I may look at this bike next season. Have a thruxton with uprated suspension and exhaust . Sounds great the cat would have to go on this bike.

[@enosmn]

Holy moly. Beautiful. Not a fan of the gold wheels but honestly, props to the builders. Very nice

[@ricardorgomez]

That is one pretty bike. I've always loved the Speed Twin and it's one of my 'potentials' for may re-entering of the bike market. My only question is: reliability and support. Not thrilled with my local Triumph dealer and the less I would have to visit them, the better. I've heard some negative things from someone I respect. But that's one person....

[@michal.laskowski.]

Thats the ultimate motorcycle. One to get and ride everyday all year round

[@v4forlife]

While the gold isn’t me, I can’t help but really like this. A real b-road weapon. Brilliant as usual.

[@djgomaz1]

Well said ,I also don’t like the gold either but it’s something I would probably put up with if there was a large performance Difference the extra money compared to the stock is a little bit of a pinch too. 👍

[@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA]

Very cool bike ! Certainly a fun one to rip around on!

[@fredericrousseau7643]

This Speed Twin is pretty close the one I envisioned building myself (before eventually buying a Thruxton R last year). Only difference is the front suspension: I would have preferred a right side up Ohlins fork, for the vintage look. Imagine topping that with the new Thruxton RS engine... Sold my Thruxton R in the meanwhile, ready for something like this one. It's up to Triumph now :)

[@djgomaz1]

Fantastic video and will vist the store when Boris Johnson let’s us out again, really liked the upgraded version on the speed twin but not so much the price I will probably stick with stock for now when I buy one 😎 thanks again for your review 👍

[@Ryzen_56X]

I'm pretty sure that for the costs of the customization of the Speed R you can get the Thruxton R instead, I'm sure they both match the similar price.

[@fastj1962]

exactly. No matter what you do to the speed twin, its not the thruxton.

[@s.o.263]

Absolutely cool Speed Twin! Triumph Bobber Black and Speed Twin are my Favorite Bikes! One for this are my new Bike🤘🏻!

[@darrenjones4804]

Wow!! What a gorgeous looking bike.

[@g.g.6362]

Nice upgrades,but a black finish on the suspension and wheels instead of the gold would be a big improvement IMO. A De-cat also a must.....

[@TheGreatestBeyonder]

ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! Well done Jack Lilly! 👍🏻 Actually tempted to chop in my T120 but done too much to it recently to justify it. An x-pipe would free up the engine a bit and certainly give you a few more unnecessary bhp/mph, but with the sc project’s exhausts it would be obnoxiously loud, so I think they probably made the right decision! Great review, thanks.

[@steveottavaino3804]

Waiting triumph... Riding a 2020 Bonnie Diamond Edition and looking to add a Speed Twin to the garage, won’t move on one for fear of an “R” version being released, that would be upsetting for sure. I’m not getting any younger Triumph, hope you’re listening to your fans. Cheers.

[@kignacio]

Right. Same here. I bought my 17 T100 and immediately felt obsolete when the Speed Twin came out 😭

[@ele-k-trick8071]

Is wish the production Speed Twin had double round headlights like test mules that were seen on spyshots. Imagine this puppy with Rocket 3's headlights! It has very similar geometry with the street triple anyway, double round headlights would be a great nod

[@Supercruze]

Beautiful motorcycle. Great upgrade.

[@luisribeiro4267]

Awsome looking bike... I agree, the brand should have thought of a beef'ed-up version of the Speed-T by now This looks gorgeous... I recon they'll sell this item FAST and get pouring orders for that upgrade coming their way... Good for you, good for them! If I didn't own a ST already, I would certainly consider requesting a quotation for this customised version, NO DOUBT! Stay safe, have fun, keep on riding and sharing, please! Best regards from PORTUGAL. Cheers

[@bradh74]

I think it looks cool and if it handles better that's awesome! But is it worth 6k more? Sometimes that stuff get out of hand. Maybe if it was factory they could do it for a lot less. Triumph definitely makes some really cool bikes.

[@richardpearson4248]

Great video the speed twin is a fantastic bike hope triumph bring out a speed twin r stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻

[@Da.Onus.Burger.618]

😲 The first 30 seconds was pure #bikePORN!! LOVELY freakin’ bike! 😍

[@mchevownr]

Such an awesome video and comparison! Keep up the great work MotoBob! Love your videos and reviews!! Now I want a speed twin RS!! Do you think that triumph will release one soon?

[@motobob]

It’s due an update this year but I’ve no idea whether they’ll do an RS or not. The Speed Twin was their best selling retro last year I think, so they might not want to mess with a winning formula!

[@mchevownr]

@@motobob thank you for your response! If you ever get to speak with triumph engineers, please beg them for an RS SPEED TWIN.

[@mchevownr]

@@motobob I forgot to ask, what brand and model backpack are you using in this video?

[@petersimmonds4319]

Absolutely brilliant want it on mine suspension looks great and I think it will be worth upgrading mine if possible

[@jamestonguet1737]

A nice bit of kit , it would be a nice match to my TFC Thruxton

[@bikersoncall]

Love the dual exhaust on both bikes, dig the exhaust screens on the Flagship of this series.

[@stevesteve1965]

I added ohlins to my ST and sprayed the wheels gold just to have a little less black . Front end is ok will sort it one day but it's good enough. But a booster plug and suspension upgrade is a good place to start with the ST. Cracking bikes.

[@dan-sc7fm]

There is an ecu map available through tuneworks. Much better than a booster plug if you're so inclined.

[@stevesteve1965]

@@dan-sc7fm yeah, I'd never re-map an ecu, so many stories and comments of forums from guys who've done this and then have starting issues, running issues, drop In peek performance, loss of pick up.. The bikes plenty fast enough and torque is spot on with a DeCat.. These bikes only need better fueling which euro 4-5 doesn't allow.

[@KyeC85]

With the exception of the gold wheels, this is what I’ll be doing to my gen 2 Speed Twin. Beautiful thing to behold.

[@fastj1962]

As usual, great video. When I first saw it I thought, why would someone build a bike with the gold suspension everyone can't wait to get off their TTRs but I realize they just took what was available probably. Having bought my TTR mostly for the looks because there are lots of bikes that out perform both the speed twin and the TTR, this bike still is sub par in the looks department. That's probably why Triumph doesn't make a HP version of it. Its a faster street twin and that's it. :) (a speed twin is the "r" version of the street twin lol) Thanks for your perspective, always appreciated.

[@chiasexe1603]

just look amazing, thank you!

[@BugManRides]

Looks great, just needs the Silver Spokes

[@arunvavaea8579]

Never ever seen such a beauty in my life

[@Yurii_Ko]

Best looking speed twin I have ever seen

[@geoffwilliams6900]

i love the look of the speed twin as it is just give me fully adjustable suspension but keep it stock looking

[@marcgumbold7420]

Thanks for the vid. To be honest, I would have appreciated some more engaged riding though, sharp bends, etc. - which could have provided some clearer judgement on the higher-end suspension, instead of some soft rolling on more or less straight urban roads... 6 grand difference is too much for somewhat different sound and arguably better looks only.

[@motobob]

That's fair - I didn't have time on this day but I'll try to in future

[@letsgoforaride7328]

I would be happy with just the base model 🙏 some day 🤤

[@hawkeyefire6208]

Looks great, but I’m sure if you bought the parts and fitted yourself, if you have the skills it would not cost £17,000. The bike should have always had radial brakes I thought from the factory and better forks. But still a nice bike. With the engine it has it should have always had these parts on. Should of taken it for a better blast. Great vid, I enjoyed it.

[@lapinobel]

I own a Z900RS right now, but would buy a Speed Twin RS in a heartbeat. Maybe something is coming, Triumph recently announced all 2021 models but the Speed Twin hasn't been updated (yet?).

[@darkknightwithanidea1845]

A phenomenal rebuild 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🇮🇹💯🎥🎬

[@tomostinato2918]

Looks so much better than the 2022 model, just through having the gold Ohlins and front mudguard of the Thruxton. Why Triumph didn't just do this is a mystery.

[@ricardoespiritu8843]

I would love to see all those upgrades on a street cup 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@abc2662]

Wouldn’t it be easier to buy a Thruxton RS and install a Speed Twin bar on it? Is it feasible?

[@hockeymann88]

My goodness, that is very very nice.

[@robbikebob]

Yeah, it looks really good. But so is the standard one. I think I'd still go standard, but would definitely buy those pipes! I appreciate the suspension upgrade, but, unless your after ultimate performance, and if you are why are you buying a speed twin, then it's hard to justify the extra money.

[@mukthang1561]

fast forward to 2022 it kinda looks similar now

[@nounoufriend1442]

Just change shocks 2022 and you have same nearly same bike , it has black USD forks that look so much better on ST

[@thecappy]

17k! Nope, bought my Speedy for 10k put about 2k in suspension (nitron forks, ohlins rear) decat and pipes. Much better than stock. Problem with the thruxton rear is they are to high for the speedy.

[@dan-sc7fm]

Yes, I agree. I did the same. except opted for andreani fork cartridges, more accessible here in the states. The ohlins black rear shocks look better in my opinion too that are available. However, they are thruxton specific, Ohlins doesn't yet make front or rear specific shocks for Speed Twin, and will raise you aprox. 5mm higher on back which isn't noticible. The setup is noticeably better. And of course d- cat the bike and put whatever slip ons you desire. Hell of a lot cheaper than $6,000.

[@thecappy]

@@dan-sc7fm ohlins specific rear are the 923. I'm in the states too. Fast bike industries in NC will get you the nitron forks as will a company in cali.

[@KiwiMoto72]

Ditto - Nitron front and rear on my 2019 Speedy. Runs great. And not a fan of loud pipes..

[@dan-sc7fm]

@@thecappy Sorry, you are correct . The 923 ohlins are speed twin specific. I meant the blackline ohlins are a bit longer 7mm. I like the look of the blackline. I think they have a plus or minus 5mm, adjust. So it's negligible. I agree the Nitrons are better front. But I didn't like the fact that they had to be sent in to fastbike to be assembled then sent back to be installed (special tools required). And also the fact that I had a bad experience waiting forever for Nitrons.

[@Heavywall70]

If Tri made this model I’d park it in my toy box IMMEDIATELY I’ve read many reviews that the stock suspension isn’t really ample for larger riders 136kg and 180cm (had to do the math on measures) because the forks aren’t fully adjustable. But seriously Triumph is really doing a lot of things correctly in today’s motorcycle market and making THIS bike would just be another correct thing they do. Ultimately price doesn’t matter because there is someone, or many someones, that want this bike. TFC maybe? Edit: the price would probably not be this high if the factory were producing them in bunches.

[@karlosh2422]

It looks very good. Yes Triumph should make an official version. Although I would baulk at the extra £6k price tag of this one. The exhausts do look good, I always thought Triumph put the slightly naff looking production pipes on so they could sell the Vance and Hines. Not sure what I would pick, these pipes or the Vance and Hines. Is there much difference between them?

[@fyorbane]

Would look really cool in British Racing Green metallic. Black and gold looks good though.

[@Agwings1960]

There were several reasons why the European bike builders like Triumph and Norton couldn't compete with the Japanese motorcycle building machine during the 70's and 80's. But I maintain that while triumph was still building twin cylinder machines, the Japanese were building three and four cylinder motorcycles, once you've heard the sound of a Z1 at 10,000 RPM, you're probably not going back to a twin cylinder motorcycle, unless it's a V twin. If Triumph had offered a fairly large cc three cylinder machine back in the day, they would have been more able to compete. Imho, but they're building some real snappy looking machines right now.

[@biker1581]

Nice review!!!!! 17k is a bit too steep.....the bike looks awesome in black and gold though.

[@vincentsmith3701]

Sweet ride and fantastic equipment conversation..do you have a link for Ace Classics? Love the older bikes as well

[@leefield3450]

Great Vid & shoot location. The speed twin is an amazing beautiful bike,but I don’t personally like the gold as I think it spoils the look. Black or aluminium may be ? 17k is a bit strong too. I’m sure they are great mods & worth having just not this choice for me.

[@pierre-marie8351]

Wow this mods seem to be not only beautiful but efficient too ;)

[@yajushp]

It's surprising how well those golden ohlins suit the thruxton but not so with the speed twin.

[@nounoufriend1442]

Would it be cheaper to convert Thruxton R into a Speed twin R ? after all they are basically same bike so assume tank seat ect would fit straight on

[@Jobie86]

Just Freaking Outstanding!!!

[@kignacio]

This is why I haven’t bought a “normal” Speed Twin yet. Too similar to my 2017 T100. What is Triumph waiting for!? I don’t want a Thruxton!

[@lunchboxsti]

Speed twin is no way near a t100. What ever your smoking, throw it out. And come back to earth.

[@kignacio]

lunchboxsti the test ride proved otherwise. Don’t get me wrong it was nice, but didn’t blow me away.

[@lunchboxsti]

Its lighter, more torque, more power. Bigger twin breaks. Different frame geometry. Different rider position. Maybe take it out of rain mode next time. I’d understand if you where coming of a T120 maybe but this is two steps above. It’s not meant to knock your socks off from one ride. Your not going from a pewee 50 to a Ducati v4. But there I no way “too similar”.

[@kignacio]

lunchboxsti well at the rate Triumph releases bikes, I’m not gonna go out and buy a Speed Twin at its current spec and watch a better one be released in 6 months.

[@lunchboxsti]

@@kignacio with Covid-19 and the fact there concentrating on the new speed triple 1160. I wouldn’t think there would be a new speed twin model for some time. The didn’t even change it from 2019 to 2020 models. In the current climate they would be reluctant to release yet another version to the line up.

[@jeffreymoorbeck5039]

What is the model information on the sc project pipes? I went to their website and they don't list anything for the Speed Twin, only the 2016 Thruxton.

[@johnfarrand5574]

i need a parts list. thinking about this mod on a 2020 twin that took a hit and bent the front forks

[@chrisreynolds3204]

I am looking to do something similar with my speed twin, where can I get the same handlebar risers?

[@Alesis90]

I envy on all of you who can feel those subtle differences and are advanced enough to justify costs for all of those improvements. All my previous and current bikes are stock untouched and gosh their tech. abilities always exceed my riding abilities...

[@hrmnish]

Would you say the sc project sounds better than zard on this bike ?

[@kignacio]

7:35 was just begging for a fade to black transition with the music as the starter chimes in 🤓

[@rudolphlouw8609]

That’s wat the bike should look love 👌

[@kloppsliverpudlians88]

Can we buy this custom model or is this a one off build?

[@gabrieljohannson6777]

These JL Lilly cats did a better job than Triumph! Excellent work.

[@martinhughes9769]

Great looking bike sounds amazing Bit costly

[@robertstimmel1100]

Gorgeous!

[@unclebob6728]

Thank You!

[@AcmeRocket]

That is beautiful 7:14

[@jamyewilson6798]

Looks badass!!!!

[@shyan5886]

What model of Ohlins Fork for this modification were use?

[@motobob]

It's taken from the Thruxton TFC, so according to the Triumph website "Ohlins, ∅43mm, USD, fully adjustable, NIX 30"

[@SuperSneakySteve]

Gold wheels will look like ass in a hurry. Brake dust and road grime are constant. Hope you like cleaning. It's black for me.

[@Heavywall70]

Even when my black wheels are filthy, they look good And when I clean them I’m all “DANG!!! Looks SAAA WEET!!!”

[@bikerwilli9130]

If I want to convert the Thruxton RS on this high handlebar, is this fork bridge a triumph? it should fit?? is the rear original of the speed twin? thank you from austria

[@mengullojushuas.5598]

what is the difference of thruxtron and speed twin

[@motobob]

Mainly the riding position - the thruxton is more sporty but the speed twin is all day comfortable

[@mengullojushuas.5598]

@@motobob but same engine right