If you are truly sorry, step down.

[@BringMeTotalWar]

This message indicates that the financial status of the CA bank account is suffering due to discontent among Warhammer fans. Historical enthusiasts have expressed dissatisfaction with the company since the release of Thrones of Britannia!

[@GamingGara]

But still you use their games to make content

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

You weren't loud enough and like apollo just left only to come back to play multiplayer so yea

[@cognitivedisability9864]

thrones of britania what a scam :'D Was a god damn atilla dlc

[@TheVoodooMaker]

Well it's true to an extent. Historical fans were very happy with 3K. And now that historical fans shat all over Pharaoh, they are starting to make amends. So historical titles are still important to CA, but less so than fantasy

[@MillSheppard]

@@cognitivedisability9864agreed would’ve been a good mod or dlc for atilla as it was a great game.

[@MrPromethee]

CA lost me around 10 years ago, I don't know why it took people so long to recognize their laziness greed and incompetence but I'm glad to see it's finally happening. I hope people don't fall for their lies once again and keep making them bleed money until the people who deserve to be fired are fired.

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

Umm cause the warhammer community is very very loud

[@TheMaxyms]

Yeah right, Rome II launch was quite the mess, same for Attila too. These were clear signs of things going wrong inside, yet people seems to have short memories.

[@cognitivedisability9864]

true but both games are now really good with MODS ofc lol@@TheMaxyms

[@khorneberserker]

The only thing I fear is that those people (probably top tier people) will be fired last. Or at least after they fired a lot of good people who did their best within the dev teams.

[@me67galaxylife]

i know right, it's like people refuse to see that companies are trash, almost like they want to keep shilling for them

[@ekimaulthar2044]

"It's hard to be positive when you watch something you love be brutally destroyed." - spoken like a true Star Wars fan.

[@stalhandske9649]

Or a Star Trek, Doctor Who, Indiana Jones, Tolkien legendarium fan.. the list just goes on and on. Thank God The Japanese have OG hand at Godzilla IP and continue to deliver. Gives one hope.

[@themidwesternboi9399]

This is a good comment and all but it pails in comparison to how good that profile picture is

[@ekimaulthar2044]

@@themidwesternboi9399 TY

[@a05odst62]

Also spoken like a true Halo fan

[@davidf2595]

Apollo is 100% right these developers just want to maximize profits and minimize the amount of labor spent making the game… there is no more passion

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Capitalism is all about exploiting the working class.

[@dawndarklight44]

The developers are fine. The executives/community management sucks.

[@Mr_Mistah]

​@@dawndarklight44 No bud the developers are just as responsible. They see videogames as a BUSINESS not a hobby.

[@khorneberserker]

Lol, welcome to capitalism, lad! :P

[@theflamingeagle572]

T​he developers only make the game they don't make the decisions. So many KZbinrs have said that about multiple companies and games, but there are still people like you that still blame them. Just open your damn ears.

[@TheOnly01Gee]

It’s almost as if they’re expecting that pissing off their entire customer base wouldn’t result in loss of profits 🤷🏻🤦🏻‍♂️

[@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504]

It worked for cod and EA

[@Moogoogala]

​​@@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504yeah but the people buying those games every year are actual robots

[@antred11]

"wouldn’t result in loss of profits" You mean "would result ...".

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Warhammer was a big success, they just finally pissed people off with the DLC, that game outsold everything else they ever made..

[@qefewfwdcwdc]

what the f are you basement dweller even trying to say?

[@winstonwashington5454]

This is one of those cases where we just have to let it go and let it die. As unfortunate as it is, a lot of household names (aka Dev studios) that we have enjoyed for decades are not what they used to be. Best thing we can hope for is that devs can leave and form their own self-sufficient studios without the need for these vulture-like execs looking to make a quick buck. That's what made gaming back in the day (2000's era) - passionate devs who's only goal is to visualize something they love and cherish then share with the rest of us.

[@emmanouelbaroutas3297]

"The right to discuss is a privilege-it is not an entitlement you earn by playing the game" - CA's PR department Woops we are soooooo sorry plz buy our new dlc - CA's Leadership team

[@jrgamer1243]

Right can't even play Rome 2 anymore cause public lobby's are just filled with people who don't know 124 is or don't care about playing fair

[@Zeitgeist2000]

@@jrgamer1243 sounds like a skill issue. how other people play online isnt CA's fault, I fully endorse crapping on CA nd how they handle stuff, but dont blame people for stuff that isnt their fault just to pile on.

[@nkvdfloof1819]

and i will

[@antred11]

To be cynical and negative about TW means to have realistic expectations about TW.

[@insiainutorrt259]

i gave first warhamer a chance because of warhammer even tho i knew how bad they are.... regrets....

[@me67galaxylife]

rahter, it's got so bad that you can't be overly negative and cynical

[@FrejthKing]

#StepDownCA

[@Metaldude1945]

Just like real life

[@StanHowse]

@@Metaldude1945 Yes, just don't say that out loud, otherwise people will say you're Negative & Cynical.

[@fives5555arc]

I just feel bad for the development team, they are just being clamped down to make sure they don’t go beyond the low standards that are being given to them by their leadership. The best chance, in my opinion, is if SEGA decides to step into this situation change the leadership, or influence a change in direction. Just something to influence a major change.

[@me67galaxylife]

Not to sound like an arsehole, but most of them are inexperienced and not passionate about what they do. They could very well find a better job with a better company that don't scam their customers. Actually on that basis alone they should. I doubt many of them have a starving family to feed and are slaves to the company

[@thecheesedip]

The solution does not lie with Creative Assembly. The solution is for those honest devs to get new jobs elsewhere. If we move our money-spending habits from CA over to Ultimate General, then they'll have enough money to hire CA's old devs. That's how you change out leadership. That's how you save the passionate devs. CA as an entity is beyond hope.

[@LiquidDIO]

It's instilled in the devs as well. It's an industry wide epidemic of software developers who aren't gamers, making games.

[@ollie1276]

@@me67galaxylife Finding a better job within the game design industry, especially in the UK (where CA's headquarters are based), is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Most of these developers are most likely stuck with working for CA for quite a long while due to how fragile job security is within the industry, especially if they're as inexperienced as you claim they are. The UK is also currently fast approaching a great economic slump, with the cost of living greatly increasing and wages only fractionally following suit. The HQ is based in Horsham, which is quite close to London, and as such the standard of living is going to be a lot more expensive than most places in the UK. So I'm sorry to say but these developers do most likely have a starving family to feed. The best case scenario WOULD be for them to move on, but there are so many factors that play into this equation it's near impossible.

[@shadowwolf2608]

Sadly the management and executives will never step down despite being the source of at least 90/100 problems. From my perspective, there is a narcissism at that level that leads people to never accept that they made obvious mistakes and that it is always the fault of someone else below them.

[@kealydan]

Aye agreed, you must feel so vindicated having stepped away from CA and I salute you sir

[@chewtoffee5912]

You know it's truly over when me and my friends never get excited for new releases and just go to NTW3 or Medieval 2 on my own for campaigns

[@Bread-nx9fo]

They arent "sorry" they're only sorry that they got called out for what they've been doing for years on end, Pharaoh is not the first disaster they released.

[@TheVoodooMaker]

Who fucking cares why they are sorry. They're a company, they're here for business. They start delivering good shit, I'm content. They don't, well that's too bad for them, my money goes elsewhere. This is business, when emotions get involved it's counter productive and useless. They said they're sorry ? Okay, good start. Now I'm waiting for them to deliver.

[@JPEG785]

​@TheVoodooMaker Ah yes what a great approach to faceless companies who will never actually deliver because the consumer has built a safety net for these corporations through excessive spending, which then leads to said corporations focusing their energy into fulfilling profit margins, appeasing stock brokers, atomising their player-base, creating dissilusionment between the fans and the company, all the while quality decreases dramatically and you exist in a world of mediocrity. Money is everything, right...

[@TheVoodooMaker]

@@JPEG785 if they will never actually deliver, why are you a TW fan ? Maybe you think things were better 20 years ago because "CA was really passionate back then" ? Lmao.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Empire TW was the first disaster, buggy ass release, the worst siege gameplay in the franchise, and Napoleon should’ve just been a DLC to that game because it’s a glorified reskin. Same with Atilla, they make games that should’ve been marketed down as DLC. No, they want full price for less work. At least warhammer is an authentic tabletop experience, everything else was a reskin.

[@canonfodderyt]

I 100% agree with you Apollo

[@canonfodderyt]

I also wanted to say thank you so much you have helped me through tough times your alongus dongus play through brought me back but I’ve been a fan for years keep up the good work!

[@thickac7579]

I actually have a friend who worked in the studio that is responsible for Pharaoh and the things he told me, bro, like you would not believe how crazy it is over there. One example he gave me was about finding some exploits and he was like "Yeah guys I found a bug" and his words to me were "I just thought it was so damn stupid that I reported it right." Well, he goes over and reports it, and he ends up getting scolded by management because it turns out it was very much intentional and it was not a bug but a 'feature' lol. Also, he made it very clear. They 100% know their games suck, the people working on these games are aware they suck, they know it and they don't care. The way he described it was kinda like "You just go to work on Monday and get paid" that is it, no one cares all right. It is not this studio of passionate people who can't wait to develop the next game, not at all.

[@PixelatedApollo1]

big if true

[@Kamiiboyy]

I hate big companies pandering and laying off workers when it's the ownerships fault 😭😭 shit gets me so mad

[@rpf920]

Honestly the entire leadership team of CA should have been sued before stepping down, for destroying a property that had so much value before they've taken over.

[@PhantomRaspberryBlower]

It's always the people who are in charge of the 'restructuring' who are the biggest waste of space. Those are the people who never create any value to the customer

[@matthewwelborn8083]

This letter pleases the shareholders and will keep Roger from getting fired. No consequences….so no reason to change for the better.

[@luigisaguier8336]

I completely agree! If they are truly sorry then the responsible ones MUST step down! At least the Bartholomew guy who has proven to being a complete clown. If anything I've heard that it is the "good" devs part of the leadership behind Shogun 2 are the ones leaving... which is just more scary than anything I've seen before. This "apology" so far just proves that they finally hired someone competent to manage their communications and not that they are truly changing anything

[@Warrior_of_Sparta]

Always think CA’s huge investment for the last few years on Warhammer is where a lot of their issues have stemmed - made them lose a lot of focus!

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

No, they stemmed from historical titles

[@insiainutorrt259]

medival 2 is the last properly well made one and shogun 2 was the last gasp nothing since has been anything but lazy reskin cashgrabs since they have been actively despise, lie and steal from you... ALL!! of warhammer is the lazyest shitty reskin bullshit scam... among the top ever scam games... 666% fraud...

[@Lagmaster33]

Rome 2 was the catalyst. So many scummy tactics were used to hide and distort the true "quality" of the game at that time.

[@lukedumoulin8204]

warhammer made them a ton of money bc it was sucessful. Later iterations may not be good, but initially it was well receveived

[@KingJulienClash]

​​@@Lagmaster33I would argue that Rome 2 still had a lot of love in it. The game I remember as the one triggering this behaviour is Atilla. Literally just a dlc game of Rome 2 which was made to just sell on a higher price. The game is horribly unbalanced, the lighting is horrible, the campaign is horrible, the sieges are horrible, the units are uninteresting and and so much more. They have it in their heads that making a game for a year, sell it for quick cash and then stop all support for it is the way to go. They literally have not tried any new multiplayer mechanic in 10 years if you ask me. The removed more mechanics than they add. Like imagine Napoleon 2 has a less buggy more interesting Naval battle than thrones of Britannia. Then banning community members and removing the chat function from the older games adds to it. Apollo is 100% just step away from the franchise. We all need to accept that strategy games are a thing of the past, because the industry is so uncreative and unimagineative and they dont care if their games are fun or good.

[@garethmartin6522]

You're quite right. The player base should start a petition for senior execs to resign. It's not terribly likely to work, but it will send a message.

[@ME-gs6yn]

I don't want to see TW die as a company. I would much rather see them return to form with something historical for us fans that have been with them for over two decades

[@eclipsedgs7124]

I like how all the people who groaned at you and all the other TW content creators now are biting their tongues because you all were right

[@Princeps2]

This is their last attempt to revive Pharaoh. If people don’t buy the game at the start of next year, they will burn that bridge and move on. They’ve done it a few times already with abandoning Empire, Three Kingdoms, etc. They will do it again no problem.

[@hugomendes9154]

But Empire and Three kingdoms are miles better than this dung lol

[@randompillow5146]

Pharaoh is dead. It’s a fundamentally bad game. Nothing they can do to fix it. Like Apollo said, they need to just can it and move on. We need a new engine and Medieval 3, Empire 2, or Rome 3.

[@LiquidDIO]

​@@randompillow5146Hell no. They wouldn't know the first thing about making a worthy sequel to any of those games. CA isn't capable of making Empire/Medieval/Rome games and making them good.

[@AlexMW2prim]

I’d love to hear your review about Napoleon. Always a pleasure to hear from you!

[@BanditoBurrito]

The thing that is absolutely paramount is to not lower your standards just because everything seems to be shit now. Same exact thing with movies, do not settle for mediocre writing and storytelling. Do not settle for mediocre full-priced games with slop DLC. A lot of people seem to really be willing to settle into the low expectations and it's awful, only encourages these companies to stay that way.

[@brasso4984]

Funny how we in December and they’ve probably realised they not made their year financial target, so the leadership team isn’t getting their high bonus, so makes up a excuse of a apology like this to rub salt into the wounds of fans to feel sorry for them. You aren’t fooling anyone Creative Assembly..

[@ThePlayerofgaming]

I’m 25 years old and played all the original games (Rome,medieval,shogun) with my brother. Love Rome 2 and put hundreds of hours into that game and even this year after like 10 years. I own all the most recent games (except pharaohs) but barely put any hours in just due to the mechanics and how the games feel recently, it’s just so sad to see for a game series I’ve played near my whole life and loved so much

[@crispycrow8324]

Apollo remains undefeated in spitting facts.

[@whateverB]

Definitely right about it not just being CA. Lots of big time game producers have put out bad products lately. Then again entertainment overall has been bad for the past several years. Indie game makers have the drive to make cool products and that is where my money has went lately.

[@knightofsvea604]

I would be surprised if "Roger" even wrote the letter

[@a-10warthog78]

They basically just pulled out with the South Park “we’re sorry.”

[@RadestpickleETR]

Most valid video I’ve seen about this.❤ love how your not afraid to speak your opinion 👍

[@Custard_Pie]

Totally agreed, banning people, telling us that opinion is a luxury, milking every penny out of its customers, releasing unfinished and dumbed down games for years. If anything, this message from CA made me even more disgusted with them.

[@whiteseptember4]

i don’t understand how fans have been asking for specific things for years and they’re just now catching on…

[@Faehen]

this "message" made my head hurt from the urge laught and cry at the same time

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

The CEO will find the reason not to step down. He'll probably say "I am willing but not able, lord!"

[@spikem5950]

CA is reenacting the South Park BP oil spill apology.

[@Max-ju6be]

I love your commentary/reaction type videos to current events and stuff. Wish you did more!

[@napoleonbonaparte7692]

That was Raw, cold hard truth

[@noticing33]

their employees are CARELESS

[@christopherpenner831]

Apollo you’re not a snob you want high quality history games. I don’t think that’s asking too much

[@zombiefolklore]

I do appreciate your take here, as it does help some like me who want olive branches and remind how we got to this point. Its a rather reasonable take overall.

[@skyrim654]

I am one of the old hands that stepped away from this company and it's products years ago. And frankly, I'm sad to say that i have no faith in their ability to make another good Medieval game or God forbid a LOTR title (face it, it'll just be a Warhammer clone and yall know it). I really hope for other developers with more agency will sieze this opportunity and provide proper competition in this space. Or at least pick up the torch.

[@alexg5092]

Idk know why, but i cant stop focusing on edge and the microsoft store pinned to your task bar. Love the content

[@odynith9356]

I totally understand you with hard to be positive when a company is destroying what you love. It’s sad.

[@atlasmonologues]

You know things are bad when Apollo is saltier than Legend.

[@stalhandske9649]

My thoughts exactly. Not quite at Volound level yet but getting there 😄

[@TheRewasder97]

Yup, and I thought Leyend was harsh. I prefer Legend's point tho, it gives more room for hope while bein g realistic, the suits are never going to leave.

[@hohetannen4703]

No, if they are really sorry, Medieval III and Empire II, $30 max price, no expansions over $5, all expansions need several new factions and regions. South Park did it best I think, if it’s not a gay black woman they don’t like it. Sorry, but Tolkien, the professor knew what he was doing, didn’t need anyone to “improve” upon his work.

[@tllaw]

"It's hard to be positive" Freddy Mercury agrees.

[@Axurias]

Since Attila, they have been only going downwards imo. If they wanna redeem themselves they'll HAVE to bring out a caliber like Shogun 2, Empire, Medieval, Napoleon etc and return to their roots.

[@connorc9537]

Its fair to be cynical seeing how the franchise has gone. I hope it gets better.

[@illrhymes25]

cynical? is that what you meant

[@danyael777]

d@@illrhymes25 Heya, that's a new wyrd!

[@alberto6169]

​@@illrhymes25Yeah, it's fairly clear what he meant

[@illrhymes25]

​@@alberto6169well syndical is a word so I was trying to see if he was shoehorning it into his phrase improperly there sherlock.

[@alberto6169]

@@illrhymes25 Dude don't even try

[@zacharyjackson1829]

i think this message shows we can see a slight improvement in quality of content for the next year or two but give it 3-5 years and they'll repeat the drop-off in quality once the community gets complacent.

[@paulyost6849]

Not all of us are gone, just been waiting like what 10 years lol

[@mifthemyths3759]

The bit were it says we are sorry just remind me of the skit in South Park “we’re sorry”

[@yanniskanakis8925]

It's such a shame. Have great memories of the old games when they where still good. But it's a blessing that new games are stepping up. Can't wait for Manor lords and until the new Ultimate General is finished.

[@mexicoball2529]

Without his long hair Apollo looks like legendoftotalwar

[@insiainutorrt259]

Glad the hear you finaly fully understand most oof how bad theyve been

[@aleiradotrasno8674]

"meanwhile me still getting my troops stuck on walls in m2tw that was never fixed"

[@Rhinopotamus]

If CA is beyond redemption and we reject these attempts at redemption… Why should they continue trying to redeem themselves?

[@redwood404]

This letter reminded me of that South Park episode when BP had to apologise “were sorry” 😂

[@F0KYT69]

This was like the BP oil spill apology video on South Park

[@Bearonasubmarine]

Keep calling it out Apollo. A lot of us are in the boat with you. Happy holidays to you buddy x

[@wulfgarpl]

It's always people that make stupid decisions that keep their jobs. It's amazing.

[@cerealkillinspoon]

its crazy how you can tell them exactly what you want. They will complain and say that they aren't selling anything and then blame us.

[@aaravjain1305]

The problem is that CA is trying too hard to get profits. If they change their idea from trying to make profits to trying to make a good game, then CA will make money.

[@kastor002]

Thank you for calling this crap out!!!!!! Too many people are falling for this corporate bullshit!!!!!

[@Alatriste90]

At this point I feel I will either die before we get medieval 3 or will be alive to see it turn into another shitshow.

[@drummerboii2878]

I agree with you. I don't know why the same trick works over and over. It's like Bethesda people just want to believe..

[@100gendos]

Everything said is true. Neither add nor subtract.

[@Jordy268]

I still cant believe how stupid some of these studios can be (the ones managing it). What do they expect when they make bad games.. of course the interest in the game and the revenue will drop. Make good games, make good money.

[@Martin-gd7vy]

Maybe they should give Attila a chance to be the leader, he's gonna conquer a lot of new fans lol

[@revere0311]

You were correct, you called out Pharoah after its initial battle footage release. I apologize for doubting Mr Apollo

[@CorazonLover456]

Bearded Apollo looking good :p.

[@ahind1234]

I didn't mind them much because I was playing the same old Napoleon all the time. The multiplayer community of that game was strong and united like a family with active games and new people joining even more than 14 years after its launch. Then recently, out of the blue, they removed the lobby and in game chat and completely killed the experience (in my opinion). The old community adapted with steam group chats and so on, but it completely destroyed the newcomers since you couldn't explain specific game rules or planning and executing team play during battles. And more importantly, the chat banter, which was half of the reason that game was so fun to play.

[@YashaDecat]

Show their intentions if you ask me... The love of money is the root of all evil.

[@brad32443]

It was the extra blood dlc in Shogun 2 that did it for me...

[@THEpoppaSAUCE]

It feels the same as the Disney ceo saying sorry for being too woke. You didn’t give a shit. Fans were crying out for how long and you didn’t care until your bank account started reflecting it.

[@crawdads-lu8zg]

That's the nature of big companies

[@TheVoodooMaker]

@@crawdads-lu8zg Cut the emotional bs please. It is perfectly normal for companies to start reacting only when their bank accounts are being hurt : this is the very definition of "business relationship". They want my money, I know that, everyone know that. I want good products. That's all there is and ever will be between CA and us.

[@dutchlinde3574]

Define woke

[@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU]

@@dutchlinde3574 It’s cultural Marxism. Stop fucking asking.

[@senseishu937]

I just pray that a new developer will pick up the mantle of old creative assembly and create an amazing *historical* rts game just like the old total wars.

[@TacticatGaming]

Reminded me of the South Park BP "we're sorry" nipple rubbing when i read they lowered the price and issued refunds lol -sorrrreyyyy

[@htg04]

This is the correct take.

[@kkaine7349]

TOTTALLY AGREE MAN

[@mauritsbutterworth3120]

couldn't agree with you more, such a shame its happening to more and more games nowadays.

[@TheW0rdMan]

I WANT YOU TO STARE RIGHT INTO MY EYES APOLLO, STARE INTO THEM AND NEVER LOOK AWAY

[@Kav1an]

"Your fired, happy holidays!" - CA Team

[@kevensmhith]

they wont make medieval 3 or empire 2 because when it turns out to be shit the franchise will completely fall apart

[@lfcmike12]

Just starting the video, really hope there's a southpark meme in here, it's begging for it.

[@MrBooghyMan]

The last TW I bought was Attila. I guess this says it all... At this point, TW is a corpse that doesn't want to be buried.

[@kevinkelly2207]

Hopefully they make another banger historical game and figure their shit out

[@deathbringer9996]

Apollo I've been watching your videos since i was a young one. in each of your battle replays its always made me want to get the game myself and which i now have. I agree with everything you're saying and will always side with you. Just don't stop making great content we all im sure really appreciate it.

[@Elendrian]

When a nice happy dude like PA picks a thumbnail like that, you know you screwed up as a company.

[@helethirSoryu]

I honestly missed your content and all that, First video being able to get back. Have them great days Bro

[@TheRealKiRBEY]

Like a funny skeleton once said "If we really are friends, then you wont come back"

[@dcavic6157]

CA is a business for high profits low costs, its no longer a company wanting a small profit to create something passionate that their fans want. Live long enough for the hero to become the villan.

[@alejandrob8526]

Video game corporations are a bunch of thieves. DLCs ​​policy is an example of this: charging a lot of money for an incomplete game that then requires countless purchases to make it entertaining to play.

[@yugimotobutjacked3231]

just every corporation in the modern day, it's what they teach at business schools. Hell if you want to learn Biz watch King of the Hill

[@jordon1241]

In regards to the first 4mins of this video, most people shoot in their pants over a cinematic trailer and say 'YEP THIS IS GOING TO BE AMAZING', pre order, it bombs and then the cycle repeats itself

[@elite6657]

The main issue with CA is they have no direct competition. It will take 1 company to creep into this genre for them to change

[@whateverB]

Really hoping you do playthroughs of UG American Revolution when it fully releases. I would be glued to it.

[@kingbr47]

LOVED your criticism. You are the first one I saw as of yet that had a truly common sense opinion, everybody else always, stupidly imo, try to be optimistic around these kind of subject, maybe trying to avoid making a hateful or bummer of a video that wouldn't attract many views, but idk. I'm just tired of this silly optimism and seemed endless hope people have around the game industry as a whole, forgetting or choosing to forget that this kind of behavior from big companies leadership, and ignorance from our part as a consumer, that brought us where we are now. I'm fucking tired of these scumbags trying to make a fool of everybody, just to back down to the obvious least acceptable behavior when, and only when, it backfires. I'm tired of half-assed apologies like these, and incredulous of how people still just take it as a good thing. The truth is that they deserve, and in my eyes should, get fucked for trying to be assholes like this, and its gonna take more than a bare minimum, and obvious damage control stunt, to make up to the things they've done all these years. But at the bottom line its just refreshing to see some skepticism and good awareness of someone else. Cudos, for you and everyone else that shares this opinion.

[@baldr2510]

Very good prediction with Napoleon btw.