If you asked an ancient Israelite, "where do demons come from?" (Dr. Michael Heiser)

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[@Yaveshtolethien]

Your clicking was louder than his words.

[@VirtualBFFs]

The clicking was so annoying!!!

[@sleepingtube]

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[@GospelSimplicity]

One of the reasons I no longer work with this editor

[@sleepingtube]

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[@louisejones5773]

​​@@GospelSimplicitythis is not an ancient Israelite so why put that lie in the title?

[@jds9958]

That clicking is annoying, take it out ,it’s stupid to have that ,it’s not clever. Your also disrespecting a biblical scholar.

[@holdingpattern245]

They're ghosts of giants? What?

[@ethan47671]

This clicking needs to stop bro

[@louisejones5773]

This is not an ancient Israelite

[@YesuAiNimen]

please stop with all the mouse clicking sound effects. Very distracting.

[@Bunni504]

I swear I heard giant clams.

[@PolishBehemoth]

nobodys laughing. You need to get your hearing checked. And your brain checked.

[@stephenbellow6777]

Pretty sure theres less biblical proof for demons being the souls of dead nephilim then there is for them being fallen angels. At that point you're just accepting Jewish tradition over Christian tradition

[@eden3688]

Genesis 6:1-2; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 2:4-7; and Jude 6-7 the fallen angels are imprisoned underneath hell called the abyss right now because they sinned. How can those fallen angels who sinned and are trapped in hell by God be demons roaming earth. These angels are not omnipresent at all. The Bible confirms this with the verses above. Giants were absolute evil that loved to sin. Their fathers being angels, their spirits were able to leave their body because they dont have souls, only humans do. Demons love sin just like the giants, thats why they possess us because they miss their physical bodies.

[@bubbag8895]

​@@eden3688they feed on emotions

[@shayalynn]

@@eden3688 I’ve think I’ve seen them in the astral projection realm.. not on purpose but after being saved, I got constant “visitations.” It really wore me out.

[@shayalynn]

@@bubbag8895I think a better word is energy, rather than emotions

[@eden3688]

@@shayalynn astral projection is not a biblical thing to do in fact God would probably look down on it. So you probably encounter these demons more often now as you are saved. You are opening portals as a Christian therefore demons will attack you more commonly and easily. This is spiritual warfare. We fight against evil spirits not humans. That is why we always forgive others because it’s not them but higher demonic influences. We shall only work with the Holy Spirit to give us gifts

[@pete9688]

Psalm 82. Yahweh is mad at the Elohim to who he allotted geographical places on the earth. They ruled unjustly.

[@nunyabiz5880]

Spirits of amalgamated folk

[@profilmwork]

Demons are all angels that went against YHWH that were casted out with the devil from their Heavenly Estate.

[@GingerVertican]

Scripture for this?

[@covered1983]

No scripture just popular belief. I no longer believe that claim. The angels weren't cast down till after Christ was born Rev 12. The Nephilim were not Gods creations. The only thing He didn't create actually. They have no abode. They are disembodied and cannot go to heaven or the spiritual realm. They are stuck here on earth so it makes sense that they are the demons.

[@-izziestudios-1655]

Thank you for sharing this 🙏 I know this to be the truth

[@SusanRuleyoutubeacc]

🙏🏼

[@VidBint]

Not to orthodox Christians

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

@@ryrocks9487not true. Demons are not the spirits of mortal creatures.

[@louisejones5773]

​@@carsonianthegreat4672giants that were half angel are not mortal creatures. This is why religion is so dangerous

[@louisejones5773]

​@@ryrocks9487exactly. This is why their spirit roams their earth

[@tcritchfeld481]

How about demons are fallen angels and souls of Nephilim?

[@andreasm5770]

Weren't the Nephilim human? How can their souls be roaming around earth and not in hades?

[@01ombladon]

In the book of Jubilees God permitted a portion of these spirits to roam on Earth for to inflict troubles to the wicked and bring them to repentance

[@andreasm5770]

@@01ombladon I believe the book of Jubilees is not a canonical book

[@Bacontats]

Yes but they were made in God’s image. Humans were created by God. Nephilim we’re created by humans and the watchers, angels. Their bodies died but their souls / spirits did not pass away into hades or paradise.

[@andreasm5770]

@@Bacontats Source?

[@andreasm5770]

@@Bacontats How can we take that literally? How can angels procreate with humans?

[@e.a.c.2175]

Giants!!!! So glad you're doing this.

[@popcorn88]

You ever stood next to an nba team? 😂

[@shalem77]

So if I'm clear demons or the unbody spirit of the nephelim but falls angels does have body and can't enter to human right? If there are in the second have a ship??

[@MichaelBravine1]

Keep it simple.. take the clicks out- thank you!

[@sobergeekxii4707]

IF this is true what happened to the fallen angels? I’m talking about the ones who rebelled.

[@jessepotter365]

They are locked away in the Abyss.

[@prof.burton8412]

Fascinating.

[@heyman.712]

Rest in peace, Dr. Heiser. Here we are in the question of the demonic, though. The problem with this view is that, if we take this position, then the problem arises in (1) WHAT SATAN IS, and (2) WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ANGELS WHO FATHERED THE NEPHILIM. It seems the demonic seems to go back further than the Nephilim.

[@thecatechumen]

He talks about this in the Unseen Realm

[@justchilling704]

Neither of those are “problems” the Old Testament never used the word “demon” it used the word “Elohim” for all spirits including dead humans. And as the commenter before said this was answered in Unseen Realm. Would you like a link to some of the lectures on this topic by the late Dr. Heiser?

[@meme5478]

​@@justchilling704yes post it

[@justchilling704]

@@meme5478 Sure thing Demons doc: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmWUfapojqqMbZY Unseen Realm doc: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIKwaJSkeZqpias Unseen Realm Lecture: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/goO1Xp-OatRleac

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

@@justchilling704the Old Testament absolutely does use the word “demon.” The words used in Hebrew are “Mazzikim” or “Shedim”

[@ryrocks9487]

For me, Michael Heiser laid out a lot of relevant information, but did nothing meaningful with it. Funnily enough, I was introduced to Michael Heiser by a very anti Catholic and anti Orthodox guy, but it was what ended up solidifying my conversion towards the Orthodox Church. It just goes to show that what was meant for evil was turned to good.

[@seeqr9]

Laying out the information is meaningful. Nevermind his podcasts and q and a’s and other deep dives into scripture. Just because he didn’t provide the trappings you desire means he did Nothing meaningful? Smh..

[@ryrocks9487]

@@seeqr9 I didn’t mean that his work was meaningless per se, I simply meant that he didn’t draw any conclusions beyond that it seems that he’s convinced that super important truths were just lost(and for the Western Christians yes, that’s true). He ultimately didn’t return to an ancient Christian communion, which I think is sad. Ultimately he’ll be remembered as a good researcher, but someone whose research was neat but impractical…

[@miqueasbello5382]

@@ryrocks9487I agree with your assessment. As an EO convert myself I was fascinated to see Stephen DeYoung take a lot of Heiser’s ideas and research and draw connections to the life of the Orthodox Church. DeYoung took that research to the next step that Heiser couldn’t.

[@miqueasbello5382]

@@ST52655 Fair enough. Heiser did not lead me out of Protestantism. Church history and Scripture did that. In Orthodoxy though I came to better appreciate Heiser's work. God bless.

[@ryrocks9487]

@@miqueasbello5382 It was similar for me, ultimately. It was a mix, but DRMH made it a lot easier, already being introduced to a lot of these concepts.

[@j.m.4858]

Awesome 😎

[@onvogmasaj]

does he mean Israelites?

[@louisejones5773]

Well he certainly isn't one

[@Car1Sagan]

The 1/3 of stars in Heaven Satan took with him. What did they become? Demons are fallen angels.

[@WolfHembrick]

There's 3 types of demons... alive nephilim, dead nephilim and fallen angels

[@bevious]

Ahh, the Biblical guessing game.

[@matthewpetto8942]

The "Nephilim" were not Giants, and no theologians believe that. The word for "giant" in Hebrew is "Rephaim" Nephil are some sort of lower being.

[@catpocalypsenow8090]

How does the Greek OT translate Nephilim?

[@andreasm5770]

​@@catpocalypsenow8090 As "giants"

[@apostasiaelegcho5612]

Well, you're wrong.

[@eugene3484]

Bro a 5 second research, just type it in and see what you get will lead nephilim translated as giants.

[@matthewpetto8942]

@@andreasm5770 lmao Nephilim is not a Greek word and it is translated as "Peptokotes" in the Septuagint. Literally means "fallen ones" as in the fallen angels.. As does with it's Greek counter part. It is the King James Bible that translates the word as "Giants" and it is the KJV translation that is in fact wrong.

[@robideals685]

Find a local Holy Apostolic Catholic Church and inquire about RCIA. The Church and her teachings are approved or rejected based on the system set up by the Church Fathers. God bless.

[@A.777-p8m]

The catholic church is a false doctrine. Study and read your Bible, Jesus bless you.

[@appumathew]

Pope just said all religions are equal and different ways to same God. Will that be rejected?

[@George_Eréthion]

Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy on this man's ignorance, but above all, Lord have mercy on my wretched sins.

[@apostasiaelegcho5612]

Lord have mercy on your arrogance.

[@eugene3484]

Lol heiser is ignorant?? Lol

[@jonathanskeet5076]

He's saying what the OT people believed, not necessarily his own opinion. Do you think he's wrong? What does your research on this tell you?

[@thesaltycatholic318]

Kyrie eleison

[@Car1Sagan]

Jubilees & Enoch are noncanonical books of heresy@@apostasiaelegcho5612

[@devynrowe7492]

This is not the only way demons came about. They are also fallen angels.

[@Jesusandcoffee3382]

No, the Fallen Angels are different beings. They have a body and can appear as anything. Demons are disembodied souls of Nephilim, they don’t have a body and can possess people and animals.

[@puertoricanprince7690]

No. Fallen angels and demons are not the same. The book of jubilees explains the difference

[@jamespena4721]

A fallen angel doesn't need a human body to manifest itself, whereas a demon does because it is a spirit looking for a host to either poses it or to influence it.

[@zacharygomez5778]

@@puertoricanprince7690actually I had an encounter with a fully demonized girl and the demons in her said, in an accusatory manner, that God cast them down. So whatever entities were in control of her claimed that they were thrown out of heaven. And they were very mad about it.

[@Car1Sagan]

Jubilees & Enoch are noncanonical books of heresy@@puertoricanprince7690

[@gareginasatryan6761]

Not that surprised. Josephus claimed that demons were disembodied spirits of evil people

[@markthe1860]

Except there is absolutely zero scientific proof of demons, giants, or any of that ancient nonsense.

[@Arginne]

And we already have scientific proof for everything that exists? Why cant they recreate the God particle then or actually explain where we came from with certainty? Scientists cant even do something so basic as cure cancer.

[@apostasiaelegcho5612]

Unlucky you.

[@eugene3484]

There is definitely evidence of exorcism though

[@markthe1860]

@@apostasiaelegcho5612 nah, not unlucky in the least. Luck has nothing to do with common sense.

[@markthe1860]

@@Arginne no, in fact, that's the goal of science, to prove things. Unlike religion which claims to already have all the answers. And last I checked god hasn't cured cancer either.