If You Have a Small Bandsaw You Probably Need This Jig

[@LTMS]

Sometimes the simplest solution is also the best one, don't you agree? Thanks for your time, if you enjoyed this content don't forget to support the channel.

[@johntheoldmod]

That is brilliant, and I don't understand why people can't just accept this is a great addition to a small bandsaw and not everyone has thousands to splurge on a fully equiped workshop. you made it yourself useing other tools you have made yourself so well done you and take no notice of the negative questions. I'm subbed.

[@LTMS]

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts. I believe the question I've been asked is not negative or argumentative, he is just unaware that I don't have a table saw. Those who follow the channel know that I started with a drill , a dremel and an orbital sander and that I'm slowly building everything I need for an organized workspace. Not everyone knows, so every questions is legit. I will continue to share what I do because it can help others solve problems or find inspiration (and also because I really enjoy making videos). Thanks again for your support.

[@soylentgreen326]

Neat 🎉

[@JohnColgan.]

Lots of keyboard warrior types all want to moan. They should moan that budget small bandsaws need this utility rather than argue that you made it! All credit to you for still answering their moans after a year

[@woutmoerman711]

What a great solution! I have a very small shop and a small bandsaw and big drill press are the only stationary tools i can place. I have a hand circular saw but it isn't suitable for precision work. I use the bandsaw for all precision work but setting it accurately is always a struggle. Your tool would absolutely help! ❤

[@LTMS]

I'm glad to have helped you, for me it was a big problem because even I only have a small circular saw and I use the band saw a lot. I use this jig all the time, it's quick to set up, precise and practical. Thanks for letting me know.

[@Austeration]

That was great 👍 such a brilliant idea. I have the same issue every time I use my band saw. Thanks for sharing your idea.

[@LTMS]

I'm glad to hear that you now have a solution. For me this little jig was life changing. Thanks for letting me know.

[@pontiacsuperchief9532]

I'm wondering why you didn't move the square down the rule of your combination square to check the fence. Every combination square I've ever owned has that adjusting feature. They even make smaller combination squares that are just as good at being square. I'm just curious.

[@LTMS]

Mine was just an example to show that you can't always quickly check if it's square or not and then adjustments are needed. With the jig, on the other hand, you just rest the fence on it and voilà.

[@MADMANmakes]

Do you have a video and/or plans for that dust collection multi-gate system at 2:45 in the video? That thing is sweet!

[@LTMS]

No, I didn't film the construction, I took inspiration from this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6maipmdlLWahJIsi=LIzyUtWxlOoememB

[@MADMANmakes]

@@LTMS Thanks!

[@Imnotachef]

In addition to the clever ideas, I really like your video editing.

[@LTMS]

@@Imnotachef I really appreciate your kind comment and your support, thank you.

[@alansimpson596]

I'm a reasonably experienced woodturner/ woodworker and enjoyed and appreciated this video so many thanks from Ireland.

[@LTMS]

Thanks to you for your appreciation and support

[@Peter-pf6bz]

I just subscribed because of this jig video. Absolutely brilliant well done.

[@LTMS]

Thank you very much for the kind comment and the support to the channel, I really appreciate.

[@billybike57]

Great idea, I’m building mine tomorrow! Thanks for sharing!

[@LTMS]

Glad to have inspired you, thanks for letting me know

[@eggster71]

That's top notch. Will have to make this as I have the same fence on my cheap saw. Thanks

[@LTMS]

Thank you for your support, I'm glad I could help you

[@Fortisnocte149]

Nice project and great film-making🙂👍

[@LTMS]

Thanks for your kind comment, I really appreciate it

[@Titus9508]

Great idea! That's my evening in the shed sorted out!

[@LTMS]

I'm glad I inspired you, thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it.

[@josephwinkler4863]

I like the fact that it squares the fence!

[@LTMS]

@@josephwinkler4863 I'm glad to hear that, thank you

[@4legdfishman]

New subscriber here! Greetings to you from Maine, USA. This jig is a great idea! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@LTMS]

@@4legdfishman thanks to you for the appreciation and for the support to the channel. I'm glad to hear that you liked it.

[@robnickel5075]

do you have a video on your dust collector diverter? I don't see one, but I'd love to!

[@LTMS]

No, I didn't film the construction, I took inspiration from this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6maipmdlLWahJIsi=LIzyUtWxlOoememB

[@tonyallred9435]

Very Clever! I'm on my way out to the shop now. Thank you.

[@LTMS]

Thank to you for watching, I'm glad I inspired you.

[@billybike57]

So simple it’s perfect, thanks for sharing!

[@LTMS]

Thank you for your kind thoughts, I really appreciate it.

[@jonnichols31]

Question, I’m knew to KZbin and these videos. By the way what a gig, gonna have to figure out the dimensions for this. Thank you for this idea. Thinking outside the box!!! South Central Texas.

[@LTMS]

I don't usually give exact measurements of what I build because everyone has different needs and tools of different sizes. I try to give an idea and inspire people. In the case of this jig the only fixed measurement is the distance between the front edge and the blade (which varies on each different saw brand), the width doesn't matter and can vary even by an inch. Thanks for your thoughts.

[@fossilsfabe4304]

Very good design. I have the same band saw and not only does it have the same problem making the fence square to the blade but the fence always tilts. This means the timber you are cutting only touches part of the fence. Ideas?

[@LTMS]

This video offers a quick solution for sporadic use, if you use it continuously I recommend you make a new fence. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@seanpaula8924]

Saved for future reference. Thank you.

[@LTMS]

I'm glad you liked it, thank you

[@micklatham3425]

Nice idea mate.i have the same crappy fence as you. But my handsaw also suffers from blade drift.ive tried everything I can think of,but it just don't seem to solve the problem.

[@LTMS]

There are really many causes of blade drift, the position on the wheel, the tension of the blade and also the sharpening. I adjusted the shelf so that the side was parallel to the blade and then I adjusted the position and tension of the blade until it cut parallel to the fence. This video may help you kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH_Ho56jrZuYnqssi=6qCYNNXNe81bdZxF

[@melgross]

Also, if the wear on one side of the blade is greater than the other, it will drift to the sharper side.

[@JohnColgan.]

There are guide pins (or if you're lucky ... Rollers) below the table as well as on the drop down guide bar. Set both to have sire minimal movement of the blade. Set correct tension. Reduces play that can I initiat3 blade drift. Many entry bandsaws have a quick tension release so that the blade is not permanently tensioned, flip the tensioner again before cut

[@Peter-pf6bz]

Absolutely brilliant well done.

[@LTMS]

Thank you so much-.

[@latenightwoodworker3283]

Yes another Brilliant idea.need this as well.

[@LTMS]

And it's very easy to do. I'm glad to have inspired you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I really appreciate it.

[@psychedelic-guitar-art]

Subscribed

[@LTMS]

Thanks for your support, I appreciate it.

[@SamuSaurama]

Very simple, very good 👍

[@LTMS]

Thank you

[@ks-hg5vo]

Would you not check it from the other side of the fence if blade close? However the finished product is the best solution

[@LTMS]

I adjusted the saw table and eliminated the blade drift before creating this jig. Thanks for your thought.

[@gnomo2368]

Excellent idea, thank you.

[@LTMS]

@@gnomo2368 thanks to you for the appreciation

[@melgross]

Does that fence always lock off parallel the same way and by the same amount each time? If so, the two screws on the top are for you to fix that. Loosen them and straighten the fence, then tighten and it should be good. If it doesn’t, then it’s a bigger problem.

[@LTMS]

On larger band saws there is that feature, here it is not. The 2 top screws are just assembly screws. I consider this a minor flaw for such a cheap product that overall I am very satisfied with.

[@todd5857]

Ok. That simple jig is great but, how about the dust collection manifold? I thought that was pretty genius.

[@LTMS]

I didn't film the construction of the dust collector, I took inspiration from this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6maipmdlLWahJIsi=LIzyUtWxlOoememB

[@mattwaters6987]

Excellent jig. 👍

[@LTMS]

Thank you for the appreciation

[@jimbo2629]

I have to make one.

[@LTMS]

All you have to do is do it, you've seen how simple it is

[@samTollefson]

On my bandsaws, the blades do not necessarily track parallel to the fence. I take a straight 1x4 and mark a straight line down the middle, then cut it halfway by hand on the bandsaw, staying right on the line. Then, without moving it, I clamp it to the table and set my fence to that board, ignoring what is parallel or square. Now, I get perfect rips every time. If I change the band, I use this same procedure to get the new fence setting. It works for me.

[@LTMS]

If you use the same procedure and then adjust the saw table parallel, you only have to do it once and then with my jig you can adjust it quickly.

[@samTollefson]

@@LTMS That may be. I have several resaw bands with slightly different characteristics, fine veneer-grade blades, and green wood blades that must be calibrated independently. A larger model of your jig would be beneficial to dial in a table saw setting. I just use a tape measure and the "bump and clamp" technique.

[@LTMS]

@@samTollefson I see, my jig is for a small amateur band saw, to solve a basic problem, you have different needs.

[@RaymondCHowes]

I don't remember my little Ryobi coming with a fence. Maybe I misplaced it😂 Like the idea👍

[@LTMS]

The same product in different countries sometimes has different features, however given the quality of the fence it is better if you build one yourself :)

[@ericc9678]

Beauty!

[@LTMS]

Thank you

[@colemine7008]

Lovely video.

[@LTMS]

Thanks a lot, I'm glad you liked it.

[@mheermance]

That's a good idea.

[@LTMS]

I'm glad that you liked it, thank you.

[@geoffb108]

Small band saws will only follow the fence accurately when the blade is new. When the cut starts to deviate slightly it is some time of benefit to slightly offset the fence

[@LTMS]

There are many causes of blade drifting, and one is the dull blade. However, with a good general setup this jig helps a lot in most cases. I shared the video because it made things much easier for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@jimbo2629]

To simplify getting that corner 90* use a pre cut board from the store you bought the plywood/ mdf etc from.

[@LTMS]

Excellent idea, thanks.

[@chicoventura]

Brilliant

[@LTMS]

@@chicoventura thank you for your appreciation

[@twitch1965]

Very nice, but the ruler is installed backwards!

[@LTMS]

it is installed backwards only in 3 countries on the planet. 😉

[@michaelheurkens4538]

It does not matter whether you use Imperial (inches, feet) or Metric (aka SI) with millimeters and centimeters (American spelling), as long as you use the same scale throughout your project. I am Canadian and grew up using both. Metric is easier to add or divide due to the base-ten decimals and not 1/16th or 1/8th type of fractions. Cheers.

[@dhal22]

There are 2 types of countries. Those that use the metric system and those that have been to the moon………

[@LTMS]

@dhal22 nice try, but NASA use metric system for space missions 😉

[@dhal22]

@@LTMSI’ll recheck with my uncle, an high level engineer on the Apollo and Saturn designs. I believe they used imperial.

[@stevenprobelski8029]

Just use an adjustable square...

[@curtisaitken7027]

I don’t know why you wouldn’t make those cuts on a table saw. The jig is nice. The filming is great…but the question remains why?

[@LTMS]

I don't have a table saw at the moment, just a small circular saw, so I make a lot of cuts with my band saw. Having the guide perfectly parallel is very important especially if you have to resaw thick pieces. The two test cuts I make at the end are just to demonstrate that if the bandsaw guide is parallel you can get a lot of accuracy. Thank you very much for your time and support, hope I answered your question.

[@teacheme]

A mitre saw would be even better for that type of cut but not everybody has one. It's also worth pointing out that cutting small pieces, such as dowel plugs, on either a mitre or table saw is dangerous and I tend to find that the cut pieces fly all over the place when cut on my mitre saw.

[@LTMS]

I use the band saw a lot, I find it much safer than tools with spinning blades, obviously it depends on the use, but since I don't have a table saw, the band saw is much faster instead of using guides and clamps to make cuts with the circular saw. We'll see when I get a table saw, however for non-repetitive cuts I prefer the Japanese hand saws. 😉

[@jimbo2629]

The band saw is quieter but can be less accurate than the table saw. With this accuracy will improve. Such a simple solution.

[@chrisgee5893]

I have an old B+D bandsaw and the fence is always square because it uses a u shaped fitted guide bar which tightens with a thumbscrew and cant be out of line due to the genius design. I hate those stupid clip on fences for the reason shown in the video.

[@LTMS]

My band saw is an amateur product and I find the quality to be more than decent for the use that a hobbyist can make of it. (aside from the fence)

[@jerrybettis5720]

No plans ??

[@LTMS]

Every band saw is different... the length is from the edge of the shelf to the blade, the width does not matter, how much you like it. You will hardly find the precise measurements in my videos, I give an idea that must be adapted to your needs, which are different for each person.

[@papayongsarninei8133]

The reasons small bandsaw won't cut straight isn't only due to the setting . Ripping hard grand wood is one.

[@LTMS]

There are really many causes for blade drifting, I personally try to use the fence as little as possible

[@papayongsarninei8133]

@LTMS I use roller fence and eyeball the cut line .

Fence on a band saw is not supposed to be parallel!

[@melgross]

It’s supposed to be parallel to the slot in the table.

@@melgross No it isn't either, you set it to the blade by making a cut after the blade is adjusted and tensioned.

[@melgross]

No you don’t. The blade is first set to the slot, then the fence is set to the slot. You loosen the table screws, adjust the table so the slot is parallel to the side of the blade. Then you set the fence to the slot. If you have a decent. Saw, and you adjusted the blade on the top wheel properly and the guides, all of which must be adjusted correctly before you worry about the table, then you’ll be fine. If you have to play around to adjust it to a cut, then something is wrong. Just ask any if thousands of experienced woodworkers or saw makers.

@@melgross Make a cut then adjust the fence to the cut you just made .every blade acts different. also why Carter has a magnetic fence! Google it,

[@LTMS]

You are both saying the same thing, if after the control cut the shelf is aligned parallel to the cut you are both right. The setup of the saw is very important, but here we are talking about an entry level product for amateurs, and a jig like mine is used to solve a problem quickly. I personally use it almost always without the fence to avoid drifting problems.

[@1man1guitarletsgo]

"Small bandsaws are very well made"? No they're not, generally. And as soon as the blade starts to wear, it doesn't matter how well you set your fence, the cut will be inaccurate.

[@LTMS]

The best method is always to avoid using the fence and cut freehand.

[@1man1guitarletsgo]

@@LTMS Correct. If the piece needs to be accurate, use a planer (for example) to true it up after cutting it fairly close on the bandsaw.

[@myuncle2]

Nice, but will never be as accurate as a table saw. You can simply use a jigsaw with a guide, or turn a jigsaw into a scroll saw, there are many tutorials.

[@LTMS]

It is definitely better with a table saw but not everyone has one, I am one of those. I had a problem with the band saw and I solved it with this jig. Thanks for your advice.

[@NMranchhand]

I could see your table saw and raise you my radial arm saw, but…which tool is better is hardly the point. He made a jig that improves a band saw.

[@myuncle2]

@@NMranchhand sure

[@rafaelmijares9197]

Band saws have a different purpose from table saws, but maybe you didn't know this. If the small band saw doesn't have a precise fence, this jig is substantially helpful.

[@myuncle2]

@@rafaelmijares9197 Yes I prefer myself a bandsaw instead of a tablesaw, I was just pointing about precision, which is never going to be perfect on a bandsaw, as the blade wants to go off a littlle bit, even if you have a nice jig or fence.