IFF, Tag at home, Catcher Interference? Umpire wrong? Game 8

[@faegrrrl]

This is how a baseball and kid loving crowd behaves. Right on!! ❤

[@tj5912]

That's a chill crowd. I'm impressed.

[@gregbrown6430]

I want to umpire for those people.

[@lanem4304]

-play at home - get 3Bline extended for that, but it was so close, I am fine with the call, could have gone either way. -Catchers interference call - looked great, it was CI. mechanic was correct, award was correct, -good job of working with partner to get it right. -PUT THE BALL IN PLAY!!! - hardest thing for newer umpires to remember to do. -great bunt by that young man! - IFF - correct mechanic, could have used a louder voice of "IFF, batter is out!" but good mechanic here. Yes, originally he got the "appeal" portion wrong. Awarding of bases for runners should be 1-2 with 2-out. Reason: when he calls R1 out on appeal, that is the 3rd out, which causes the defense to stop playing. That causes them not to try to make a defensive play to 3B on R2 who is running there (hadn't achieved 3B when the appeal was made). Correctly fixed the call, put runners on 1&2 and now 2 out, remember to put the ball into PLAY! Overall good job by the training Umpire, and good job by the volunteer coach!

[@youbluethatone1017]

For the play at Home Plate you do not get 3rd base line extended. That is an outdated technique no longer taught. You want to work the WEDGE. You want to stay right on the Catcher’s Plate Side Hip and fight to get a 90 degree view of the tag itself and get in as close as you can without getting in the way of the play. You want to stay active and never just go to a set position for these plays. Tags at the Plate are very Dynamic and never happen the same way Everytime. The Umpire in this video actual ended up in a pretty good WEDGE Position. Each tag play has 2 WEDGE Positions. The 1st “Perfect” WEDGE Position on the is play is slightly to the left of where the umpire is. The 2nd is slightly left of the Pitcher at the top of the Left Hander’s Batters Box. REMEMBER DON’T BE AFRAID TO GO INTO FAIR TERRITORY TO GET A GOOD WEDGE POSITION!

[@lanem4304]

@@youbluethatone1017 partly agree; Yes to the wedge, here the better wedge position is the catcher's right hip, which is more 3rd base extended, hence why I described it as such.

[@youbluethatone1017]

@@lanem4304 no 3rd baseline extended is nowhere near the Wedge positions. The 2 wedge positions on this play are slightly left of the umpire and slightly left of where the Pitcher is standing at the top of the left-hander’s batter box

[@Caudata_]

The crowd and coaches were great, but I think seeing the PU willing to talk with the FU and make corrections to calls after consideration probably went a long way to keeping everyone from getting wound up. People respond differently to adverse situations if they can SEE that best efforts are being made vs. when it looks like the PU is on a power trip.

[@bobkmac]

Based on frame-by-frame, the bat didn't appear to hit the mitt... sounded like a caught foul tip.

[@MH-Tesla]

Off topic, but the catcher was surprisingly good for 10U.

[@whitneyherrin9816]

Right!? I thought the same!

[@kevincalhoun5612]

I thought so too.

[@ChrisMeade18]

Play at the plate - Ump had a better angle than the camera, so I give him the benefit of the doubt on the call. Catcher's interference on the batter's swing - I never called this unless I was absolutely sure. I needed the sound of the bat hitting the mitt and often some other sort of indication that something was off about the swing. If I weren't sure enough to the point that I would have to ask for help after hearing the catcher protest, I almost definitely wouldn't have called it. If this were a foul tip and catcher's interference at essentially the same time, I could see why the Ump could have been a bit confused and second guessed himself. Unfortunately, the field ump really can't help you on this call so you gotta stick with it and be confident about your call. It's also good to assume the catcher will always protest that call and don't entertain it by have a response ready every time, "Sounded like his bat hit your mitt to me," and move on. Infield fly - Glad they got together and got the call (mostly) correct here. It's tough at this level when the fielder drops the ball and the runner(s) don't stay put like the should. There's a lot for one umpire to watch. On the first watch, I even missed R2 going to third on the throw to first trying to get R1, so I see why his missed that and sent R2 back to second. Better that than sticking with the incorrect R1-out call, though. The main thing I see here is an ump that needs more confidence, not in making the call, but in the call he made. He needs to be louder. For lack of a better term, he needs to sell it more. A loud "Catcher's Interference!" with the right index finger pointing down, followed immediately by a slightly less loud "batter get's first base" with the left hand pointing at first may have helped avoid the protest from the catcher. Same thing with infield fly. Being loud is the most important thing. It's not fair to the team on the bases if you just point up and say "infield fly" in a normal voice. "INFIELD FLY BATTER'S OUT" should be the loudest phrase in an umpire's arsenal. No spectator should wonder if the infield fly call was made. Being loud there may not have solved the issue of trying to watch all the runners and the catch at the same time and missing the dropped catch (or misinterpreting the rule not realizing R1 needed to be tagged), but being loud may have kept R1 on the base in the first place!

[@MagSeven7]

I agree with everything you said. It appears the ump got the calls right, even by overturning the infield fly that was dropped so the runner was safe. His biggest issue is not being vocal enough to let everyone on the field know what's going on. That also gives the fans the impression this guy has confidence. It's always tough for new umpires though to get vocal because they're not sure of the correct calls. It happens to all of us at the start. I'm going through it now with a few new umpires in our local LL. I feel everall this guy did a good job. As I always tell the new umps, the more games you do the more you learn. Just keep doing games. That's the best training. Thiese types of videos are another great tool.

[@floridaorbust5038]

Infield Call verbally would have helped

[@youbluethatone1017]

Yes when I call it I yell it extremely loud and verbalize the entire thing twice. “INFIELD FLY, BATTER IS OUT!” VERY LOUDLY!

[@ryanceason4658]

As a high school and summer amateur baseball umpire, I think they got the catcher's interference call correct. It is tough as an umpire to correctly officiate CI because nine times out of ten, you can't see it happen. You are listening for the a glove sound before the ball reaches the glove. That is the clear indicator of CI. It is easer at lower levels since the pitch is slower. When you get into HS and Summer ball, it gets more difficult as the pitch speed increases. On the play at the plate, I would err on the side of call stands to anyone questioning the call. From the camera angle, it's tough to get a good look at the foot as the runner slides. From a mechanics perspective the umpire should clear the ball away from the catcher and move into 3rd base extended and then into fair to see a possible swipe tag by the pitcher. However, given the short field and how close the ball was to the plate I think the umpire's position was fine. One thing to note with the IIF play. Once the pitcher dropped the ball, the force on the runners to return to their bases is null. This is only because it was a no catch and runners advance at their own risk. Had he caught the ball, the original call on the field would've been correct. I agree with the corrected ruling on the IFF. In the NFHS, OBR, and NCAA umpire manuals, it states that when placing runners on corrected calls, runners should be awarded the base they would've achieved had the incorrect call not been made. When awarding bases, umpires are to be conservative with the amount of bases awarded. If there is any doubt on whether a runner would've successfully advanced, the runner should be placed at the base last touched at the time of the incorrect call unless another runner has been awarded the base. (ie. with a runner on 1st, the batter hits the ball down the foul line into the corner and is originally ruled foul. The umpires could judge that the batter could've easily made it to 2nd had the correct call been made. The only question is where to place the runner from 1st. He can't be placed at 2nd since they already awarded the batter 2nd. The conservative award would be to place the runner at 3rd base.)

[@67L48]

Everything looks correct to me. Obviously, blew that last call, but corrected it and no harm done.

[@willowsticks]

The IFF call was correct, but the runner was not tagged on first, it's not a force out back to the bag unless the ball is caught. In the end they got it right.

[@ericjohannsen]

R1 was not out on the infield fly. Since the ball was dropped, the runner did not have to tag up. Other than that, I see no issues worth posting a video about regarding a plate umpire in training.

[@jeffnoble9460]

Anyone else notice the kid scream: "he's going to drop it" right before he drops the iff? If that was a player on the offensive team that is verbal interference and play is dead right there. Still results in the same situation, two outs and runners at first and second. Warn the offending team's manager about verbal interference and move on. I am not sure why umpires seem hesitant to call verbal interference. Point of emphasis in NFHS.

[@brianm1328]

I think the infield fly video is wrong. R1, R2 with 1 out. B3 hits and infield fly, the umpire signals infield fly (finger up, but I can't hear if he calls it). It is irrelevant if the fielder catches or drops it. B3 is out and R1 and R2 advance at their own risk. R1 was doubled up after he left first base. Seems pretty straight forward. Did I miss something?

[@MJHBaseball]

They didn't tag the runner that was on 1st. They only tagged the base and since it's not a force, he is not out.

[@Fire5485]

I think the first call may have been safe... But that's a very close play, and the ump is in better position. I thought it was catcher's interference. Third call, good on the umpire for being willing to go back and get it right. Would've been nice to hear him call infield fly louder.

[@willtrauterman3946]

“Imprefect” 😂 classic

[@willowbrook2717]

I thought the same thing

[@firstname7330]

Why is the kid leading off at 1st base in 10U?

[@TheDjcarter1966]

1. play at home ...never going to complain on a close call like that he is in the correct spot and good mechanic peeking around he wants to be where the batter is standing but doesn't run over the kid so peeking in is fine 2. The catchers interference is hard because what most people don't realize is these call are just as much sound as anything else and you are never getting that from a camera 3. IFF can be a goat rope, the easiest way to umpire this is to just put the batter 100% out of your mind (he is out the instant you make the call) now all you do is focus on live ball action the ball is live imagine the pitcher missing the throwback from the catcher or pass ball same situation, just a live ball and call the action (you have to tag runners). Runners can advance at their own risk runner should have stayed at third ( he was halfway there and the out call shouldn't impact his placement)

[@williamknudson8414]

Actually, I got the "that's weird... that sounded like a bat on leather..." sound in this case, which I don't hear from a bat on ball, typically, so after a moment for that to sink in, I realized "oh, yeah, catcher's interference. Good call." It's a rare call, so you don't get much practice. I at first thought it was a foul tip strikeout, as I'm used to umping leagues that start with a 1-1 count. Mea culpa. As noted, pointing the ball back in play is a good thing to do when dealing with an ordinarily always-live-ball field, too. No notes on the sliding play at home, those are tough, and I can't see a good reason to overturn it. For the Infield Fly, I definitely would have wished for a louder vocalization, but he did make the indication, and held it long enough the teams (and coaches) could see it, after which case any coach will know a dropped IFF is going to have to get sorted out to the best of the ump's judgement, especially in a league like 10U.

[@youbluethatone1017]

1. Yep he did a good job getting into the Wedge and got his nose in there close to the tag. For plays like this I like to get into Fair Territory and see the Tag from that side of the Wedge it usually provides a cleaner view. 2. Seemed like Catcher’s Interference from all the Clues. Catcher might not even notice a slight nick from the bat when concentrating on making the play. 3. Yep just be VERY LOUD on IFF Calls. Especially at younger ages that aren’t anticipating that being a possibility.

[@williamknudson8414]

@@youbluethatone1017 I've had to work enough adult leagues where the adults weren't all sure of the rules that I tend to never assume everyone on the field knows what's going on, and always brace myself for chaos if the ball drops.

[@Pvtims]

That was an infield fly!

[@Johnleonard-w5z]

Coaches, please teach the players what the infield fly rule is all about.

[@garygemmell3488]

In order to do that, the freaking coaches have to know what the rule is all about and that's a crapshoot.

[@rickaboltful]

his command presence is as bad as I have ever seen

[@evankirk5937]

These videos are no longer productive. You’re now blasting youth umpires on KZbin.

[@garygemmell3488]

Are you one of the blastees?

[@evankirk5937]

@@garygemmell3488 No

[@garygemmell3488]

@@evankirk5937 When you say "youth umpires" are you talking about adults\kids who umpire youth ball or umpires who are youths?

[@evankirk5937]

@@garygemmell3488 People who umpire youth baseball.

[@goodmaro]

What's wrong with people learning some umpiring points, even if they never wind up umpiring?

[@incrediblesulk555]

Wrong call. Infield fly rule. Batter out. Runner out at first.