Fairphone 4 Teardown: If Only Apple Made Phones Like This…

[@backyardaviator2920]

If youre gonna Ask me: Fairphone Should hire the Engineers Who designed the LG V20,these guys Practically made the most user Friendly & Repairable Smartphone to Date while still being up to Industry Standards & Has more stuff than you would Expect on a Modern phone nowadays such as the HP Jack paired with a powerful ESS Sabre Quad DAC chip

[@joshuaewalker]

I desperately miss LG in the phone market. The V10 is still my favorite phone that I've owned.

[@KaziUpal]

It is a big loss to the smartphone industry that LG stopped. They sure gonna be missed.

[@Sillybollox1966]

Brilliant phone still use mine as a music player.

[@danielmonsanto8286]

At this point, i don't think the issue is design expertise, but more of cost and contract for volume orders. FairPhone's operations may currently not be able to handle such a commitment yet, especially as they are only currently serving the European market.

[@HybridDivide]

Oh man, do I ever wish we could get a new V20 with modern specs. That phone was amazing!

[@nolandionne1262]

Absolutely yes, I would purchase a set of Fairphone 4 devices for my spouse and myself if they were available in the States with our current carrier. I’m excited about the recent news that Apple will be releasing OEM parts and repair guides soon, but I have greater respect for Fairphone as a holistic exercise in repairability, ethical sourcing, and anti-planned obsolescence.

[@biaguerra1914]

Apple released it's OEM parts and repair guides and it actually comes out more expensive to do it yourself then it does to have Apple do it when you rent the tools you need with the guide. SMH

[@FrIoSrHy]

Why not just buy it and add your sim card

[@chromaticvisuelle]

Apple is so fake in those crappy guides and parts.

[@verumignis4778]

This aged like milk... Apple did release their repair program but honestly as far as I can tell it's only reason to exist is to point at when questioned by lawmakers. It provides absolutely 0 value to the customer.

[@VynZography]

As someone who builds things for a living, I am very pleased with this design. The only reason other manufactures DON'T design like this is to deliberately hinder repairability. Shame on them and well done Fairphone. I also want the headphone jack back tho 😉

[@extectic]

Apple & co are explicitly lobbying to *prevent* right to repair, so yeah, they're operating out of pure uncontrolled greed.

[@saraholiveedwards4697]

The presenter went over this bit so fast. So how do we attach headphones to the phone?

[@samwichse]

@@saraholiveedwards4697 A crappy adapter to the USB-C port. Or an even crappier pass-through dongle so you can charge and listen.

[@tajmahyann7014]

I personaly prefer the jack plug on a phone for the simplicity of it, but there is another solution than the usb-c adaptor. Nowaday, I plug any wired headphone I have to a tiny light battery powered bluetooth module (15-25$). The best with this solution is that it can connect wireless to "any" phone, computer or technology with bluetooth capability. Basicaly, the module can convert analog sound signal to bluetooth. Imagine, going to the beach with any WIRED headphone without the need of TOUCHING the phone in the backpack (ideal for sand and water protection). For me it has been the best of two world. Imagine, the liberty of wireless plus the quality of the "loved "old" "non-breakable" "comfy" headphone. Yes you still have the cable management, and the need to charge the module... But hey, no pain no gain. And yes, battery life of the module will be super short, like few years or so. Then you plug it on a powered pack and your ok forever. I"ll finish here. Good luck.

[@venugopals9680]

Great approach. I greatly appreciate Framework and FairPhone for bring the Right to repairability possible. Eagerly waiting for these two devices to available in India.

[@CSab-ui2jt]

I'm skeptical of them removing the jack, especially since they sell €100 wireless earbuds now. And it doesn't look like they sell any replacement batteries or parts for the earbuds, while also highly encouraging you to purchase them instead of dongling the headphones you already had.

[@razemix]

Tbf, they also sell you the dongle for 10 €, which isn't bad at all.

[@InversePacman]

@@razemix Agreed, and this is often overlooked, you can also just leave the dongle attached to your headphones.

[@paulharney29]

A 1/8 headphone jacks receptor is a nightmare for ISO 65 and above water resistant ranking. I can well understand their need to go as waterproofing exceeds wired earphone’s necessity since Bluetooth readily makes them redundant.

[@CSab-ui2jt]

My S10e is IP68 and it has a headphone jack and microSD slot@@paulharney29

[@paulharney29]

@@CSab-ui2jt I didn't say it is impossible. I suggested, and correctly so, that it is easier to make a phone water tight without a headphone/aux jack. Manufacturers know this, and so when bluetooth became robust the handwriting was on the wall.

[@kawaiidere1023]

Definately thinking of buying one when my current phone dies. I want a user replaceable battery because its so hot in Texas and a micro SD so I have more space for music and games

[@johnshepard8387]

I had a fairphone 2 and i kept it like 7 years. It still works but is kinda slow. Now i have a Fairphone 3, and i'm pretty happy with it.

[@TheDroidMate]

you're one of the good ones. my next is gonna be a fairphone too.

[@annabecker4554]

I own this thing and I am very happy with it.^^ It is a bit bulky, but I prefer having a repairable phone over a small one

[@jedics1]

The only deal breaker for me is its size like every other phone, its just impractically large for one handed use and getting it in and out of your pocket 50 times a day. It reminds me of the Samsung S2 era (perfect sized phone by the way) where the back comes off and battery, storage and sim are easily removed, making the soft case the actual back of the phone is a great idea to. I can't wait until big tech gets forced to make devices serviceable again, our society needs a return to sanity over profit in general if we are going to remain a viable species on earth.

[@allthingstechandgadgets657]

Thanks for the upload. Still rocking my Samsung S10 with removable storage. Yeah, it is a shame that mobile phone companies have basically all moved away from removable batteries now. Around 9 years ago phones did still have removable batteries. From memory the Samsung S5 was the last phone that I owned with removable battery. Just think if phones still had removable batteries today, I reckon a lot more people would still be holding onto their phones.

[@wr6293]

A couple of comments: The Fairphone is not water resistent - a result of the modular design and decision for easy repairability. I remember well these times when you had to have spare batteries with you to make it through the day. And part of their issues was corroded pins - yes, exactly those pins you where so happy to see again. I had several phones, from Blackberry (the best to write on), over different Samsung phones as well as others with failing parts from battery over charging ports and front glasses as well as backside covers.All without them falling or been treaded badly. And all where broken and replaced within 3 years - also because of software update issues. My iPhone 6 I have now for more than 6 years. After 4,5 years I changed the battery. Nothing else broke. I will get a new one next spring and it will be an iPhone again. The only reason is that even though I get constantly safety updates some apps are not running on the OS anymore. The one thing I am much on your side is that exchangeable batteries and memory extensions are the most needed things to be added. But only if it does not jeopardize the safety of the OS (infection by memory card) or less water proof resistance because of making these changes happen. I agree that Apple could and should be improving on repairability. If they would the iPhone would be even better with it total ecosystem and easy to use approach. Apple will have to change for certain as sustainability is important. But honestly I feel better having used my iPhone for such a long time than I had when I had to get new phones every 2-3 years. But that is only my thoughts 😌

[@klevkaisetsu4883]

Fairphone udpates their OS (not just security) for a pretty decent longevity in fact 🙂

[@wr6293]

@@klevkaisetsu4883 I did not check on that but I take your word on it. There are interesting times ahead of us and companies like Fairphone can be a force driving development into the direction of better repairability. But Apple has - imho - a very good and over their different products well integrated ecosystem which I like as it makes my life easier. The safety aspect and their better (not perfect). control on Apps is something I prefer over google Android. I know, I know - Apple is as well out there to make money and surely they are not perfect but while I like using google for websearch but for other things Apple is my choice. I just wish they had more affordable computer - there I stay with windows / Linux because of price and hardware updates are easy…

[@NPzed]

Would love to see a USA version available! (or maybe a swapable radio/antennas for compatibility if even possible)

[@devnol]

Last time I clicked on an ifixit video this fast iPhones were still repairable

[@nathanp2007]

If Fairphone released the 4 in the USA I'd be super tempted. I'd almost definitely go for it if it also had a 3.5mm jack. Such a bummer that it doesn't.

[@ChaosPootato]

I love the idea of it. Too bad about the audio jack, it's definitely still relevant although quite bulky by modern standards

[@patx35]

Not really. There's many flagship phones with headphone jacks.

[@ethan-fel]

coming from their forum, the headphone jack had to go because they were lacking space inside the device.

[@SenileOtaku]

@@ethan-fel so make the phone thicker. I personally despise the flimsy-feeling, paper-thin devices.

[@Kizarat]

*Sony Xperia phones have entered the chat*

[@bonielsen3459]

Just buy a USB C to phone jack cable. Works fine.

[@sysierius]

I'll just mention the Samsung galaxy xcover lineup. They have: Headphone jack Replaceable battery storage expansion Water resistant

[@Pomacat]

It would sure be a consideration if sold in the US

[@gammaboost]

While I never really knew much about this phone at first, I actually think this could be a really great device and may be something I would buy. I don't really care too much about specs as long as it works, it's speedy, has good battery life and is up to date. However, I still need to see some reviews about it. And while I do live in Australia, Amazon seems to be able to ship the phone from the UK and I think that it is compatible with our network frequencies. I'm not so sure that the seller is trustworthy, and it only appears to have 2 reviews, and the phone has none. Amazon says it costs $1,201 AUD (a little more than an iPhone 13 mini) but sadly it would arrive after Christmas.

[@Username-u5e]

Fairphone In Smartphones And Framework In Laptops Are Good sign For Right to Repair.

[@TheSupertecnology]

As a concept, every iteration can be just described as a huge leap from the last. Hopefully one day such a design will be as capable as a flagship and still if not more serviceable.

[@vladventura1928]

The funny thing is that when my s10+ broke, I saw the fairphone and what pushed me away from it was the missing 3.5 port. Because I didn't want to deal with more usb port issues, I went with an LG v60 thinq, which has been good to me so far.

[@farishanafiah8461]

That V60 is still a solid phone in 2022. Shame that LG has to pull the plug from smartphone market. I totally miss them.

[@matthieudeborbe2542]

I hope Fairphone executives see this comment. I would DEFINITELY buy one as my next phone if it were available here (Canada) even without availability through service carriers. I’d be willing to pay the cost upfront since I know a Fairphone would last for a long time. I really don’t understand what’s so difficult about adapting network receiver and emitter to have Can / USA frequencies. It should be something really minor since they’re in the same frequency range as EU frequencies. This would open a great market to Fairphone. Right to repair is making big progress in North America right now, so people would probably buy it more than we can imagine. I just don’t get it.

[@ythehunter755]

It's not per se about the hardware adaptations. The costs of setting up everything and scaling up is huge and simply not possible for a small company like Fairphone atm. Hopefully this version will do so great it will be possible for the next one.

[@emmanuelgospel68]

Hello Good day. I am running an LCA on the fairphone 5 for my Beng Project. For my analysis, I would be needing, the weight of all hardware components. However, the fairphone 5 isn't available in my region. Please can I would like to know if I can get the weights of the dismantled component from you.

[@valeFarez]

I have a fairphone 3 and thanks to the easy design it has motivated me to learn how to repair my own phone.

[@MulRooster]

I love the idea, I just wish that there were smaller versions - like I don't want to go any bigger than my Pixel 4a, and my wife has a phone the size of a credit card (with the power of a potato) - so 6.3inches is right out. Would love it to top out around 5inches.

[@AleksUsovich]

Reminds me of the Samsung Galaxy S5 that I still miss so dearly. It was the perfect design and super easy to repair. Pretty forward thinking about the usb 3.0 just shy of the USB C era. Bring back the Galaxy S5 with a newer snapdragon and better cameras while keeping the fingerprint sensor, removable batteries, and headphone jack and I'd be a user for life.

[@TheStevenWhiting]

One question. Is it better as in faster than the Samsung s8? If so I'll get this to replace my S8 that now has the known screenburn issue

[@johndumpling1896]

It has a Snapdragon 750G with 5G capability. Compared to S8's Exynos 8895 (European version), Fairphone's chip has a roughly 20% increase in performance. If you have the Snapdragon version of S8 (USA and China) which has Snapdragon 835, the Fairphone is more powerful by 15%. You can find comparisons online, but it seems like the performance is not an issue.

[@johndumpling1896]

Overall, it is very similar, as the chips are optimized differently.

[@bluenight317]

Wait when did Sd card reader stop becoming standard, I thought they still where?!?!

[@King_Jab]

Same I thought only iPhones didn't have sd cards.

[@mixedup5858]

Yes, Samsung M series mostly triple slot and some A series Maybe he's talking about 1+

[@deoxal7947]

@@King_Jab Lot of androids too. That didn't get as much coverage as aux being removed though.

[@kenarok5912]

Sorry Sir, how about autofocus if camera near of the magnetic of speakerphone?

[@thobanimqadi]

2:33 I caught my sub. Thank you 😭😂

[@ras9182]

I would definitely buy one if it had the required frequencies for Canada. It has most but not all and currently doesnt ship directly to Canada. I'd have to use a forward shipping company.

[@isaiah123456wp7]

If it had a headphone jack I would import it in a heartbeat!

[@Petero3]

I like the size of my 1st gen iPhone SE so i'll wait until more compact repairable options are available. For now i consider used iPhone 8 or Pixel 3 good options if i need an upgrade.

[@shanapagdilao3580]

Remember, swapping out your battery is always faster than charging

[@bournes9845]

is fairphone available in the USA at all?

[@bottomtext5872]

Good stuff to see it repairable. Notch and lack of headphone jack is dissapointing though

[@knifekitty_ls]

can you swap batteries in it while charging without os shutting down?

[@benjamincolliot7611]

I may buy one... When I will not be able to use my FP2 anymore. With a software update coming soon and a community USB-C bottom module on the way to my mail box, this will delay the purchase for a product I am already actively promoting with my social circles.

[@georgeh6856]

I wish I could buy this phone in the USA. I lived in the Netherlands a year ago, so I could have bought one then. I didn't because it would have been a pain to import the parts in the future.

[@AlexisTichko]

I never understood why Google dropped project ARA with the modular phone design. I can come up with only one reason, profit. And if I'm right, it was a huge mistake and missed opportunity to develop a new business model based on reuse instead of consume and throw away...

[@ncx94]

If it had a 3.5mm jack, that would definitely be my new device... But can't use a phone without it

[@ronniemaclellan6940]

That was a concern of mine too until I discovered that their USB-C to Mini Audio Jack Adapter (3.5mm) can be bought for £8.95 and now they are giving away their True Wireless Stereo Earbuds worth £89.95 free with the purchase of a Fairphone 4. A win-win for me so I've just ordered one (and included the adapter as well).

[@ncx94]

@@ronniemaclellan6940 yeah i know there are solutions but in my experience you never have the adapter on hand when you need it... And wireless headphones yes, but same, when you need them they have no battery, and you're stuck when you wanna plug anything else

[@linuxdragon57]

Yep, if the modem could work in the US, I'd buy it right now.

[@yvonnehugli-fricker9697]

Ich habe seit 2 Jahren ein Fairphone 3+ und bin sehr zufrieden. Ein einfaches Gerät, stabil gebaut und gut zu bedienen. Das einzige, was vielleicht nicht so gut ist, ist die Kamera. Der Akku hält sehr lange und ich habe immer noch den Ersten. Wenn ich sehe, wie mein Umfeld immer wieder neue, teure Handys kaufen muss.... Ich liebe mein Fairphone. Ein Statement für Mensch und Umwelt. Ich brauche kein Statussymbol um vermeintlich gut dazustehen, ich tue hier aktiv etwas für die Umwelt - jetzt!

[@asmaklad]

I also miss the headphone jack. And will never unmiss it.

[@TheAbhiank209]

Can someone please tell me what background music is that?

[@ethan-fel]

i received mine a few days ago. It's a decent phone, the screen is great, the camera quite average and it's a thick phone. Coming from a Pixel 2, that's still working fine but the battery is dead i just had enough. IDC about flaship specs, i just want a phone that last. Android run fine, the battery life is great, i don't have a lot of fear about breaking it and i will start looking at a new phone in 5-6 years.

[@louisaradice4439]

I so wish there were a more active Fairphone users' community in the UK!

[@Cikub1]

Absolutely excellent. For my next phone the ability to replace battery and other components is a must have. Essentially, if a phone doesn't offer that I'm not considering it.

[@judgeworks3687]

I've wanted a fairphone for a couple years now. If they are ever in the US market I will definitely switch to it.

[@anand4249]

host is so enjoyable, tearing the mobile, removable battery era ended with when nexus series, iphone were introduced

[@spammus1]

This would have been an instant buy from me if only it had the 3.5mm jack.

[@MrEgelantier]

You can buy an adaptor. New chance?

[@JohnGottschalk]

@@MrEgelantier adaptors break so easily.

[@hebe60]

​@@MrEgelantier No choice instead of an internal jack

[@kennith.]

I would absolutely purchase them for myself and the family if they were available in Canada.

[@jlfgcommunications8262]

I've been following Fairphone for years and wish the phones were available in the US.

[@thecbc7658]

Can you tear don an RP2+? Or even upgrade a RP2 with the parts for the RP2+.

[@guptabhishek]

Can they make one with upgradable SOCs?

[@f-22r]

A friend of mine has one. The downside with them is always that they are much thicker than other devices, but we should always consider them.

[@paulharney29]

Kudos to the Fairphone manufacturer. My phone is a mission critical device in my work, and requires multi-platform interoperability. That sort of makes Apple products a no brainer for their turnkey interoperability. However, I always carry a backup phone, because being reachable is part of the road warrior mission critical spec. I’d readily carry a Fairphone as that backup.

[@monisateeque1192]

I live in India, and if Farephone was made available here - I would have definitely bought one for myself and my family.

[@macjim]

I have an iPhone XR and have been an iPhone users since the very first version came out. Over the years, I’ve been less and less happy with the iPhone, to the point where I have considered replacing it with something else. I did try the Punkt MP02 but it went back within a day due to the dreadful software problems… that was way back when that phone was new. The Fairphone 4 has my interest peaked as I like the idea of a phone that can be repaired and upgraded but what has stopped me trading in my Xr for the Fairphone 4 is the cameras. Images off the iPhone XR are good when there’s plenty of sunlight but in low light, not so. With the Fairphone, I’m not sure how good the camera unit is in comparison to the one in the Xr (even though the Fairphone has two cameras over the one with this phone) and has stopped me buying one; well, that and Android (I don’t trust Google( yeah, I know, tinfoil hat and all that)). How good are the cameras? I suppose these can be upgraded due to the replaceable modules which should allow better cameras over time to be added.

[@adfury]

Somebody bring this to America.

[@grahamevans8567]

Nothing about the phones performance/specs/ features?

[@ludosrex]

I look forward to this coming to America. I plan to buy one as soon as it’s available.

[@RDMracer]

Regarding the 3.5mm, sure the PF3 has one, but the DAC is already really cheaped out on having one of the worst SNR's I've ever noticed when listening to. Because the FP3 is still fine, I'll probably wait for the FP5 to upgrade to though.

[@Chris-ut6eq]

wished you would have also talked about tech specs more compared to it's rivals. I know this is just a tear down but you mentioned tech specs early on but never got around to talking about them more. teardown part was good intro.

[@Chris-ut6eq]

PS. what would USA users give up by buying a euro phone?

[@TheDroidMate]

What an amazing piece of tech. Brilliant video, thanks!

[@MultiTelan]

No headphone jack is a ding against them, but unlike every other phone out there, it wouldn't stop me from buying one. The rest of the design makes up for it.

[@alimukhtar1282]

Nice information about repairing iPhone 👌.

[@_colonial_]

Amazing! Companies like Fairphone and Framework are showing that the "sealed aluminum box" model is avoidable. I'm starting to think we should just straight-up ban any products that don't meet certain standards for consumer repairability.

[@Dug6666666]

I have an old model now Moto G5 phone with easy battery replacement and storage expansion, don't know about the screen but I'm one of those people who is yet to break one. Good to know I can upgrade to something similar in serviceability if Motorola no longer support this kind of phone. Its the first phone I have ever bought and I hope it continues to be reliable. (I started with friends hand me downs)

[@shubhamjain6874]

I was ready to unsubscribe iFixit if they've rated this phone 9/10. This phone definitely deserves 10/10.

[@JohnGottschalk]

Because it's missing the 3.5mm jack, I think I'll still default to a second hand or refurbished device. If it were just this and the top 2 and I had to buy new, I'd buy the fairphone.

[@beachsandinspector]

I do like this phone but the lack of a headphone jack for me is a deal breaker for now.

[@mnz3211]

I loved the concept of repairability and huge fan of this concept. I hope fairphone will reach great heights and bring a lot of competition into the market. More the competition, better it is for the consumer.

[@apn42]

Looks like a fairly nice phone with a metal frame unlike older Fairphones. Long time SW support is very important for phone longevity.

[@estousemideias]

It seems to be supported by LineageOS, which will help on that. My current phone is too similar to the Fairphone4 to justify a move, but my next phone will be a Fairphone running LineageOS right off the bat.

[@Jordan-hz1wr]

You better believe I will be ordering one THE DAY they announce they are shipping to the US.

[@Babas013]

Can we upgrade parts too?

[@diddymies]

Theu havent give any upgrades to older ones so I doubt it. Also it would be impossible because Fairphone is reliant on supplier for the phone to get parts, They arent big enough company to design custom parts.

[@chtay2886]

Will this phone work in the Asia region?

[@hilal_younus]

Then Why- why did they introduce wireless earbuds? That’s not even repairable… which goes against their whole stance…

[@TheSilverWolf1998]

I will absolutely buy one to replace my note 8 as soon as they start selling in the US

[@ryutenmen]

For me, the Fairphone 4 has two drawbacks - the lack of audio Jack and not a 5000mAh battery. The rest is great.

[@ethan-fel]

the 5000mAh battery is a non issue since you can have a spare.

[@johnsparozich6839]

I would niy it if thr battery had larger amprage that gets me thrpugh the whole day, as well as a 3.5 headphone jack. Having a removable battery, headphone jack and sd card are most important to me. This is the main reason I am still using my 5 yr old LG K20 plus phone and have no plans of replacing it any time soon.

[@jeffery19677]

I would LOVE to be able to upgrade my phone as tech increases. I live in the USA. If I knew it was compatible, I would order one today. I am not interested in "saving the planet", but reducing waste and saving my hard-earned money is ALWAYS a good thing.

[@jarencascino7604]

I really like the modular usbc port because those can break easily

[@kintustis]

the hypocrisy of using torx screws and removing the headphone jack, along with the eol for the FP1&2

[@TravellerChris]

Samsung user here. I'm definitely jumping ship as soon as my device becomes unusable! In this modern world where everything is either a matter of freedom or convenience, I will always root for freedom!

[@in-sympathy-old]

Oh btw what do you guys think of a Fairphone 4 from user experience perspective? Is that one worth the price? I love the repairability, but is anyone actually using that one as a daily driver? Are there any major issues? I’ve read mixed reviews on the official forum, so asking here too

[@aliffaiq7883]

Bang aku kan punya hp tapi gak bisa di cas di colokannya itu kalo benerin berapa ya bang!!

[@mr1bienvenu1]

I would buy it.

[@WyvernDotRed]

I wouldn't. The lack of a headphone jack is a deal-breaker for me. I would buy a Fairphone 3(+) if my current Moto G5 breaks. But it's still going strong, so I will continue using that.

[@fynn1202]

Check out the framework Laptop! It's the same, bit a laptop with clever designs for updradability

[@JonathanBondu]

I want to see a teardown of the fairphone earbuds.

[@dumboy886]

Now I want fairphone to make a budget, scrappy SOC version of this. With a headphone jack. Pretty please ?

[@dumboy886]

@@Fairphone I was considering that while waiting for the FP4 specs to be released, but it seems to be out of stock or with highly inflated pricing everywhere I look now... *Sadface*

[@deoxal7947]

@@dumboy886 When I read, I recalled seeing on their store page it was out of stock and then I read your reply.

[@MrMarty77]

I would have instantly bought one if it came with a headphone jack.

[@Carighan]

Already ordered mine about a month ago, so about 2 months left to wait. :P

[@AlexisTichko]

Luckily I'm from Belgium and I will definitely get one as soon as I can. Will opt for the 256 GB version with higher RAM just to cope a bit with the not so young chipset.

[@JohnnyWatkins1503]

Sounds great! Work on getting them here in the usa. It will bring other phones down in price.

[@giantjam4918]

This phone is amazing, it would be perfect if it also has kill switches for cameras, wifi and mic.

[@MIBProductionsAL]

Thank you for a new video!!!! Love it!

[@samconomo3726]

I would buy it,as soon as it gets to Australia, I think you still need to do really do really slow videos ,close up,just for old people,

[@octhewatcher]

you can add more storage by micro solder !

[@extectic]

Basically the only thing they missed here is the 3.5 mm port, and arguably we're beginning to get over not having that. I've been using a FiiO BTR5 for a while now even though my current phone has the 3.5 mm jack. It's forgivable - in this day and age, when it's sadly going away all over the place. Extra kudos to Fairphone for keepign the SD card slot. That's still an extremely useful feature that I find inexcusable when it's missing. All this plus actually paying the workers who make it and taking care to do minimal damage to the planet.

[@farishanafiah8461]

Not me. I used to be in the wireless audio bandwagon and I'm NEVER coming back. Any smartphone that doesn't have a headphone jack is automatically out of the list, including this Fairphone. Fairphone should better learn all the tricks from more established brands about giving IP rating while keeping the headphone jack.