The Phone Thats Fighting Big Tech - Fairphone 4 Teardown and Repair Assessment

Designed to be sustainable, repairable and open is it really as fair as it seems?
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[@busterscrugs]

a headphone jack might break, so let's make you use the charging port twice as often so it breaks instead! lol

[@autotropicplaybench1819]

And in exchange, you can buy our wireless earbuds for your audio needs instead, which are actually not sustainable! Smh for (un)Fairphone

[@coffeemakerbottomcracked]

This.

[@SweBeach2023]

Yeah, the reasoning is just insane. I can live with a phone without a working 3.5 mm jack. I can't live with a phone with a broken charging port.

[@tonyconpint1342]

If the headphone jack did break, they should just make it easily replaceable instead of not including it.

[@KingEurope1]

Modern USB-C jacks have way, way higher supported insertions before a fail state. Modern 3.5mm jacks simply do not. This is important when they offer a 5 year warranty.

[@jozsefizsak]

Great video. Between them not wanting a review from you, the headphone jack story and earbuds, we can see that there is room in the market for somebody to do this even better.

[@KingEurope1]

Perfect is the enemy of good. Fairphone is still a million miles better than anything else on the market. If you wait for the perfect phone you will be waiting forever. Considering they offer a 5 year warranty, it's reasonable why they wouldn't want to include a headphone jack given how few insertions modern jacks support. They would have an insanely high return rate within those 5 years because of that jack.

[@DMack6464]

@@KingEurope1 not if u could replace the jack

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

Well there is the PinePhone and PinePhone Pro from Pine64 which is also extremely repairable and still comes with a headphone port I do believe and has toggle switches to physically cut the power off to some of the phone components such as the Bluetooth and Wifi chip or the headphone port but unfortunately this phone is not really designed for consumers just yet and doesn't run Android or Sailfish OS (which can natively run Android apps) but instead runs Desktop Linux With X11/Wayland application support...

[@TheSuperBoyProject]

@@KingEurope1 I think apple is still better.

[@jozsefizsak]

@@KingEurope1It's a great phone, but as Hugh said, leaving out the headphone jack from the most easily repairable phone because it could break is a bit of a contradiction. To then offer fully disposable earbuds just like Apple does seem at odds with their stated goals.

[@boxman139]

I am not easy on my electronics but I’ve never broken a headphone Jack. If it’s strategically placed such that it doesn’t experience any stress I notice it can survive my abuse. I personally agree with your theory that it’s to push the wireless earbud sales. It sucks how wasteful our society is now

[@acerIOstream]

I've personally broken my fair share of headphone jacks as well. These things are so narrow compared to a USB C they like to just... snap off. Especially when in your pocket, like Janson said. Either that or the solder fails on the inside and it only works some of the time.

[@Bane_Amesta]

@@acerIOstream To that explains why my smartphone's headphone jack started to disconnect and pause my music :'(

[@KofolaDealer]

I broke more USB-Cs than headphone jacks. USB-C is the worst port when it comes to durability

[@avadrumm]

In a blog post they said that the official reason the FP4 doesnt have a headphone jack is for waterproofing reasons. It's already hard enough to make a phone with a removable back with any water resistance at all, they probably couldnt have done it if it had had a headphone jack. The argument that it's for durability is obviously BS since you could just replace it if it were to break. Or if you broke off a male connector inside of it, you could just open up the phone and push it out from the inside. The real reason is waterproofing

[@davenz000]

"What's a headphone jack"? Says an iPhone user. "I use several hundred dollar wireless airpods and throw them away every couple of years when the batteries die", says the same iPhone user.

[@ilantzur02]

The reason for not including the headphone jack is a bit weird. If you merge the charging and headphones jack together you actually use the USB port much more than only for charging, and thus wearing it down faster. That's only if you have to use wired earphones.

[@SweBeach2023]

Not only that, but charging is almost always done with the phone in a fixed position and indoors. I.e. experiencing very little wear and tear. A headphone jack on the other hand is primarily used when out and about, thus experiencing far greater forces.

[@33blue]

@@SweBeach2023 And the headphone jack I'd bet is the tougher of the two. It's a rode that doesn't have tiny pins and that can rotate. With an L shaped headphones plug, it has a small footprint that's hard to apply force to even in the pocket of tight fitting jeans

[@ilantzur02]

@chitrai raj And those are expensive and almost impossible to repair

[@Random_4400]

a headphone jack will break? 😂😂 I've owned tons of old devices and i have NEVER had the headphone jack break and i use the headphone jack very often that's just a very silly excuse possibly worse then Apple's "it won't fit" excuse

[@AlwaysBolttheBird]

As someone whose fixed phones for almost 10 years now let me tell you our third most popular thing to fix is the headphone jack (at least it was a couple years ago when they were still popular). Screen and battery are first two. It’s not exactly the jack itself broke but things breaking in there and people breaking the jack trying to get it out. Also people would get so much crap in there like dirt and lint and stuff. Also we saw a lot of corrosion in there from moisture. Maybe there was some “lost in translation” there and that’s what he was trying to say? With that being said and the phone focusing on repairability I think they should still have one but make no mistake we made a ton of money on headphone jack replacement.

[@kenmastersmaster]

@@AlwaysBolttheBird where do you find good aftermarket batteries? I can't find much for LG v60 except a used battery from a recycled phone.

[@diamondsandteatimewithniki8805]

I ruined the last phone I’d had with a headphone Jack because the chord of my headphones got caught on my boot and broke off in the device, we couldn’t get it out and it was too old to find a replacement

[@solhsa]

I'd bet the charging port is way more fragile than the headphone jack, and if you force me to use that port for both functions...

[@AlwaysBolttheBird]

@@solhsa so I’m not a materials expert or anything all I can say is what I’ve seen for the past ten years. In general the charging port is built better because you will be using it more. It’s also easier to clean because it’s a “rectangle” not a small circle. Now onto the actual charging ports themselves (not the protocol they use but merely the design”. I still say the design of the lightning port will always be better than USB because there is no middle part to mess up. It’s just an empty hole. Even USBC has a middle part (way more robust than micro but it’s still there”. The main reason we had to actually replace a charging port was the middle part was messed up bent broken and so on. On lighting ports 90% of the time it was just a cleaning. So yes the charging port may have an issue “faster” than a headphone jack it’s because you use it way more not because it’s more fragile per se.

[@Steve-tu8eb]

I remember when Google wanted to do something similar with Project Ara. I honestly wish they had followed in the same footsteps as Fairphone so we just upgrade the parts we need and keep the parts we don't want to upgrade.

[@eolink]

3:53 Democratic Republic of Congo

[@lazer1036]

Huh

[@Scyth3934]

wtf it's literally the exact shape too

[@blakegriplingph]

They took the effort of sourcing the minerals used for the phone's ICs from mining firms practising fair trade, ensuring that there's no slavery or conflict minerals involved i.e. those funding local warlords and the like.

[@Neptunewashere2011]

🤓

[@darkguardian1314]

Formerly Zaire.... Countries in Africa are always changing their names...

[@mojolotz]

Fairphone "community member" here: The negatives you mentioned (headphone jack, the e-waste earphones, stuff being soldered on, confusing website...) are definitely contentious in the community. I feel like feedback is being listened to so i am fairly happy with the bunch of sea people.

[@TuxraGamer]

Are you Fair-ly happy? Sorry.

[@t0raneko]

You know, I've owned countless portable devices with 1/8" headphone jacks, including walkmen, discmen, and 3 iphones and NOT ONCE DID I BREAK A HEADPHONE JACK even as a child.

[@SaikatJoydhar]

Gives me my school days vibe when I used to disassemble my computer, cleaned it, and reassembled it. It was so easy and no-brainer. Phones should be like this. After all it's a tool, not a fancy toy.

[@phonewithoutquestion80]

I can see where they made progress but had my eyes rolling at the lack of a charger and cable and headphone jack.

[@HeyNighT_Art]

I get the charge and cable things, the headphone jack one is not the thing I'm surprised about, since everyone is appears be doing the same shit so idk The charger thing tho is reasonable why you're rolling your eyes on it

[@ORIOLESFan02]

I feel like if you’re putting this much effort into a phone, at least give us features please. I’d love a headphone jack again.

[@HeyNighT_Art]

@@ORIOLESFan02 true. I do use the headphone jack alot as well, but I get why they didn't put it. Even so the USB C port audio thing has some stuff that I heard wasn't really good for the audio stuff

[@ORIOLESFan02]

@Ellis The DJ your username is very ironic lmfao

[@ORIOLESFan02]

@@HeyNighT_Art what happened to charging your phone and using a $5 (USD) pair of wired earbuds too?

[@krono9451]

Let's be clear: Fairphone, a company all about reparability, didn't include a headphone jack in their latest smartphone, because... It'll break and you'll have to repair it?

[@TommyAgramonSeth]

Instead, your USB-C port will break much faster and you can buy a replacement part from them, or their TWS earbuds 😏

[@KingEurope1]

Yes. They offer a 5 year warranty, so it makes zero business sense to include a port that offers so few supported insertions before a fail state that it will break before half that warranty period has elapsed. Sony offer headphone jacks on their phones. And they sell terribly. LG did, and they sold so poorly they went out of business. It's a niche feature. Fairphone's USP isn't a headphone jack, it's removing slavery from the supply chain.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

@@ingulari3977 Yeah that's the weirdest, reasoning i've ever heard

[@dlewis9760]

@@ingulari3977 LG went out of the phone business because of their reputation over a really bad phone, and the continual lies about Android updates would be released "Really Soon". I had a LG phone. Great phone. Crummy company.

[@tridinh1011]

@@KingEurope1 m8, sony phones dont sell because they are more secondary display for their Alpha cameras than being a phone. And LG had no direction for their phones so their downfall was seen from a mile away. The inclusion of a headphone jack does not account to anything

[@krono9451]

Fairphone always seemed gimmicky to me. Behind in the tech, with a dated look. Removing the charger, USB-C cable and headphone jack further exemplifies how Fairphone is becoming worse year by year.

[@rn.v4629]

my mother in law has one, but it feels so cheap tbh. and is very slow also.

[@jamoin9810]

@@rn.v4629 "and is very slow also." Thats because fairphone literally uses old parts - apperently "to be better for the environment"

[@sybsygstgstsgysg5330]

@@jamoin9810 it’s an excuse for them to upcharge you and make more money.

[@rn.v4629]

@@jamoin9810 but charge prices of newer parts hehehe what a shitphone i told her 20times but she wanna help the world and such...

[@williamv0242]

the removal of a headphone jank kills it for me thats just so stupit ill just stick to buying cheap nokia phones they are the same specs they just require more tought when replacing parts (but is totally doable)

[@TheSpotify95]

Reminds me of the days when most Android phones were easy to repair, and could have the battery swapped out in seconds (Samsung Galaxy S4 era). How times have changed... The only thing I don't like is the lack of a headphone jack - there's enough space for it, and if it was to break over time, they could make it repairable (like how they made the USB C port repairable). Sadly, if you need a headphone jack nowadays, there's very little choice.

[@Chris47368]

I just mainly use a Bluetooth to aux receiver on my FP3+, despite the presence of the headphone jack. The lack of a headphone jack, lack of a OLED display and the notch design on the FP4(price combined) did get under my skin however - I might consider a shiftphone when I do eventually upgrade/change phones, as i feel 'upgrading' from a FP3+ to a FP4 would actually be a downgrade in many aspects for me. Fairphone has really lost it's direction with its design and release of the Fairphone 4. Especially when it concerns the lack of a headphone jack with their release of earbuds that would become landfill trash within 2-3 years of use. I might have forgave Fairphone over the headphone jack loss, if you could replace the batteries in their wireless earbuds....but nope....

[@PhilXavierSierraJones]

I think this phone could've been made better with some feedback from the community, and maybe partner with other companies in other countries to provide the logistics. The repairability gimmick is cool, but it still needs some problems ironed out. Adding back a headphone jack seems to be the first step in the right direction.

[@DDRKhat]

The unfortunate part is you called it a "Repairability gimmick" , being able to repair your hardware that you purchased should not be considered a gimmick.

[@technomatic6285]

reparability gimmick? I think we have lost the meaning of the word "gimmick"

[@taxsi]

if repairability is a gimmick, this is not a phone to go for or even comment about further issues.

[@baconwizard]

@@DDRKhat what I’m concerned with is that Fairphone seem to think its more of a gimmick - removing the headphone jack because you cant repair it whilst simultaneously being able to replace the USB-C port is asinine. Also wtf kind of company charges €35 for a cable?

[@technomatic6285]

@@baconwizard The USB C charging port is a necessity which cannot be fulfilled by any other port. The headphone jack however is not a necessity because you can just buy an earphone with a type-c connector However, that means you can't charge your phone while using the earphone or vice versa but who tf does that anyway? I personally just use Bluetooth earbuds when I'm charging and cable when I'm not charging.

[@Toma-621]

I think one of the more ironic features of this phone is how large the top and bottom bezels are yet they still decided to have a notch

[@oatmeal7818]

Better use a design like galaxy s9

[@D_A86]

Fairphone is kinda a overstatement when once you purchase the charger, cable and headphone separately its no cheaper than any top end smartphone 😕

[@Okararu]

How is it not fair? Because you have to pay more money so the people who mine the resources don't have to suffer? Yeah, totally unfair.

[@lagautmd]

Would love to see this in the USA! The headphone jack is not a big deal either way for me. I prefer a jacked set of phones mainly because I've always considered wireless buds to be a bad idea (though a fine option to offer). And, they will get lost. Putting a $200+ device in my ear using friction is just completely nuts to me. So, I'd be buying an adapter.

[@Abishek_Muthian]

If the Linux support for Fairphone 4 gains momentum and becomes usable then it would be the go-to phone for the Linux enthusiasts as other options have performance drawbacks(but lesser proprietary drivers though).

[@ginx2666]

That just feels like a scam phone, now a "fair" phone. Their excuse for removing audio jack is laughable.

[@FMeister94]

How is it is a scam it does what it says it pays its workers fairly, sources its parts ethically and it’s repairable. Why must a company be dogpiled on cos it doesn’t fit every single expectation. Sure I think they can certainly work on their PR as it lets them down.

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

Probably the best teardown video I seen to date. To me having the chance of swapping the battery would be my main point. My Nokia 6110 Navigator was the pinnacle at the time. Found every Australian street with turn instructions at the best time. Got me thru Japan and China. Next hit was the HTC Velocity, gave me nearly 500 days of Apple free 4G network freedom and perhaps the best Navigator of its time. A Fairfone and a spare battery will save your life if lost in the bush. Thanks Hugh! Next: Set up a go fund page to provide for Louis's depression?

[@iankrajacic7974]

I remember when I worked for a Samsung repair centre years ago, this phone reminds me of the Samsung galaxy s2. Very easy to open and repair.

[@hydreg]

I feel like this is a case of one step forward, two steps back - no headphone jack, no dual sim (they could at least merge second sim slot with micro SD card slot, like Xperia did, though I personally don't like that either), sim and micro SD slot non openable without special tool or dismantling the back of the phone, therefore making it more prone to breaking (once again Xperia has the right idea), no gasket so I wonder if it's splash proof... Also I must wonder if hardware can be upgraded? If they come up with better camera component or OLED screen - would I be able to just swap it? That would seriously be a huge step to reducing e-waste. There's potential there, but it's not really realized.

[@extrahourinthepit]

Upgradability is something they have committed to with previous phones and I'm pretty sure they're on the record for intending to keep doing it, and it is IP67.

[@YearsOfLeadPoisoning]

I love the idea and product, but unless the major players adopt these principles, the net effect is still nearly zero. Legislation is the only way forward, not niche products.

[@brunoais]

I think both are the way forward. Legislation to provide a basic but niche to go one step forward. I love having a physical keyboard. So I found a way to get one (f(x)tec PRO¹)

[@YearsOfLeadPoisoning]

​@Bessie Hillum I wish I could agree, but the free market has only continued to move away from repairability. I see no reason the major OEMs would sacrifice profit margins for sustainability unless given an economic incentive. Competition with a hyper-niche brand isn't going to accomplish this.

[@brunoais]

@Bessie Hillum I disagree. People being enforced by the majority is bad. Causes suppression. However, companies being enforced by the majority is good. However, the laws governing companies are not protecting the people while they are supposed to protect the people from the companies (such as the abuse that is happening).

[@brunoais]

@Bessie Hillum In a democracy, it is. democracy means the people makes the laws, not the companies. So, it's expected that the companies get lawfully bullied by the people when they don't act in the people's interest. Corporations and companies don't have rights, in a democracy.

[@cosminandreimatei756]

If you ask me, I prefer the headphone jack back again. While I'm not at home, yes, I use the wireless headphones, but while I'm at home I'm using the headphone jack because I own some wired headphones and I have an wireless speaker with a headphone jack

[@amak1131]

I'm surprised buttons aren't replaceable, given those are the parts getting used the most. Great idea, but the execution can use more refining.

[@SeptienPatterson]

A smartphone with a removable back? What year is this?

[@billienomates1606]

Excellent vid, I like the concept of the easy self repair and the replaceable battery, but value for money, in my opinion, I think not. Putting the recycle, fairtrade blah, blah, blah out the way I just by 2nd handphones, which is my little way of helping the planet. The bonus to buying 2nd hand is I can upgrade every year or so. Currently for the price of £220 British pounds I purchased a nearly new condition OPPO Reno 4 Pro 5G with 12 gigs of ram and 256gb memory. Value for money is my bottom line when buying a mobile phone.

[@kokonut5]

The headphone jack breaking is the last thing on my mind on the thousand of parts in my smartphone to shit itself. My PocoF1 lasted me 6 years before its motherboard decided to kill itself. I opened it a few times replacing the battery and power flex cable. I literally used my headpohone jack everyday to commute for 6 years. I call total BS on Fairphone's reasoning here.

[@pablouribe1522]

Too expensive for what it offers, almost impossible to get in America, the missing headphone jack. The idea is great but the execution so far has been subpar. Also the parts seems way to expensive, the premium is huge. It will be powerful if they competed better and make other companies make changes towards reparability.

[@DDProCo]

MagSafe Battery Pack is my replaceable battery, and I don't have to compromise on specs thickness of durability.

[@jaash8]

9:20 I didn't know Digi existed in Australia. I thought Digi was only in Malaysia.

[@MohamadAlifHazwanRoslan]

He probably went to Malaysia for a holiday i guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@denimunjas6831]

Recently my phone froze and the on/off button was unresponsive. Man I remembered the old days when I would just remove the battery to get it to hard reset.

[@mayurdumbre9347]

The next fairphone need to bee upgradable. Like you have notch display but you can buy a punch hole display and just plug in it it . If you want to upgrade camera just change module. That would be so awesome

[@clgst14]

Well, they tried that back in 2011 with Project Ara by Motorola. Never really took off because they said not many people would actually upgrade their internal components as much as possible/wanted.

[@walter_marcus]

bruh...my portable tape player from 1990 has a headphone jack and it still works fine, what do they mean my "it may break"...if they cared they would make it modular on a tiny ribbon cable like sony does on their products since they started making phones and on my Xperia XZ premium i replaced it only once after 5 years of using it daily on lockdown days.

[@athmaid]

3:43 had a feeling it has to do with their campaign to source conflict-free metals needed for production. And sure enough, it really is the map of the DRC, where most of the tantalum and cobalt is from

[@solhsa]

The missing headphone jack is a deal-breaker for me. A pity.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

This. Guess I'll forever be stuck with my S10. Can't think of any recent phone that I'd even consider worth replacing it, as they all have some form of huge drawback to me... like no headphone jack (most phones), garbage cameras (A-series Samsungs), being garbage overall (Xiaomi), being no longer in the market (LG), intentionally crippling a couple features like leaving out the compass for no good reason (Motorola), etc. .... phones have turned into a pain in the rear TBH. A game of "which drawback do you pick and never end up being fully happy with because of it"

[@aujorduunforte2922]

@@Knaeckebrotsaege why don't you try sony's

[@StarfoxHUN]

Tbh a TWS Headphone with repairability is really interesting concept to do. All i can think about is making you able to unclip the bottom part where the battery is from the speaker, and replace just that. I wonder if there's a better way for that.

[@StarfoxHUN]

@@ingulari3977 Yea or replace it entirely. However i'd like to mention that TWS-cabled hybrid IEM exists, maybe LG or Sony made one recently, can't remember the exact company tought.

[@AliG-rc6ox]

Wish all phones were made this way, removable battery rocks, why don't we get more phones with that built in

[@Agumon5]

The lack of a headphone jack is perplexing ..... The target audience for this device certainly would have wanted such a feature.

[@dracopug]

5:00 honestly removing the headphone jack doesn't make it more sustainable. First of all, if you're using the charging port more for audio, you're going to wear that out a little bit sooner. And secondly, it requires new peripherals like usb-c to 3.5mm dongles which could also become landfill, moreso that they're a flexible cable. Theyre just moving one breakable part inside the phone, and pushing it out while moving the cost of dongles/wireless headphones onto the user.

[@JaiRestore]

I'm honestly impressed by the time and effort you put into these videos, Keep it up!💛

[@asteroidrules]

One thing this makes painfully obvious is just how unnecessary the complexity of repairing most modern phones is. The software rejection side in things like iPhones was obvious on its face, but this shows how the overreliance on adhesives and permanent mountings are also ways most phones discourage repair purely for the sake of it.

[@BABiFun]

Okay hardware aside, how's the software? Will they update it for years to come like Apple does or are they doing the usual Android move where it's 2ish updates and they're done

[@PaperReaper]

5 years of official updates, maybe even more. And 2ish updates has not been standard for a whiiiile

[@BABiFun]

@@PaperReaper That's good to hear then, 2ish big android upgrade was what I wanted to say, but anyway, 5 years sound really good. Just wish they ship to more countries

[@runedyrting8476]

This was really interesting in spite of a few downsides.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

For a phone that's sets to be different from the rest, it seems to follow a lot of the modern trends of not including a charger and cable, having a camera notch, raised camera cluster, no headphone jack, requiring a stupid USB adapter for headphones and so on. The argument for no headphone jack is BS of the highest order. A USB C port would be much more expensive to replace than a headphone jack and breaking one would also prevent you from charging the phone. They want to lure you into their rebranded bluetooth earbuds. The battery is also pissing small for a SD 750G CPU. Only 3905 mAh? Even phones with SD8 Gen1 CPUs have larger batteries. Also, would they care to explain how you're being more environmentally friendly when you'd need two extra boxes for the charger and cable instead of a single one if the phone came with those?

[@FMeister94]

But they did it before it was popular at least the cable

[@mirkopacchioni4158]

We all hope that the phones will all be like this again but I guess it's just a hope. Nice video as always.

[@TechthroughToni]

Fairphone is a great phone! It also has a great performance and the UI is very close to stock android.

[@shapelessed]

If their mindset is that they had to remove the headphone jack because it can "break" - then they should also remove the screen - because it could shatter, the battery - because it could blow up, and everything electronic - because it might short out.

[@CarbonPanther]

So you'd be left with just the Phone's frame! No wait... It might bend so they'll better remove it too.

[@shapelessed]

@@CarbonPanther Introducing... AirPhone! A phone that can not break because it's just air!

[@CarbonPanther]

@@shapelessed Too bad the name "Nothing Phone" was taken already, eh? XD

[@FinlayDaG33k]

I still remember when I got my first Android phone... It hardfroze quite often *but* I could just yank off the back cover and take out the battery. God where have those days gone T_T

[@toonistiny]

It's a miracle someone actually thought of this and made a company just for fan service.

[@MalikDiallo223]

The country is Congo DRC, where we get lots of minerals like cobalt. Seems like there are trying to spread consciousness.

[@rambledogs2012]

Hey, we took the headphone jack out of our repairable phone as it might break (which means it's unrepairable). To combat this, you can spend additional money on our over priced wireless headphones, instead. Can't say we aren't fair. While you're at it, buy a charger too as we didn't include one.

[@brunoais]

Yep. If it breaks, then just make it easily pluggable inside the phone

[@rambledogs2012]

@@brunoais Just a scam to spend more money on the wireless ones.

[@brunoais]

@@rambledogs2012 Indeed. That dent has been making me rethink about what they are actually after... Or what investors they have...

[@JJ21lives4ever]

Water resistantance is a must. Rain, accidental drops, even snow had ruined some of my phones in the past. Need water resistantance and repairability. Some of Samsung's enterprise phones have this

[@bonniemunene5163]

You can be sure if you stream music with that speedy 5G network or put your music in that 256gb storage , you are most likely to deplete earbuds battery first, you need a headphones jack to prevent this. and being able to charge the phones small battery while you listen to music.

[@alistairgammond2221]

Thank you for the upload Hugh It's 4am in the UK and I'm wide awake stressing because I'm supposed to be going away today, but I've been testing positive for the last 6 days so I'm stressed out

[@samal3196]

Ah man, I'm sorry to hear! Hope you sleep/slept alright man.

[@kenmastersmaster]

You have aids?

[@TheColinputer]

Be awesome if they offered a external battery charger. The last phone i owned that had a removable battery (Samsung Note 3) had these awesome little kits which came with a spare battery and a little white case would not only protect your spare battery from damage but also had a USB port to charge it outside the phone. Was awesome back in the day.

[@zanegandini5350]

As another Australian KZbinr would say: BRING BACK THE JACK! Granted, I have a Fiio BTR5 that can make any set of headphones bluetooth compatible, but there's no reason to omit the headphone jack in the first place. Just make it easily replaceable like everything else on the phone, it isn't that hard.

[@yearls]

The headphone jack does NOT easily break. My PSP Go still has one, never had to replace it. Heck, my GBC is still fully functional and that has a headphone jack. That reason that "it can easily break" is total bs.

[@comicsanz97]

If anything, this phone further convinces people that easily-repairable devices have to be bulky and ugly-looking. Also, they removed the headphone jack because it breaks over time, but the power and volume buttons are not replaceable? Ahem.

[@tessierrr]

Screws to hold the screen in is genius, how did no one think about this, or how long have they been suppressing the idea 🤣

[@ncc74656m]

Nice idea, but it's not very useful if you can't own it in most countries. While I'm not a frequent dropper of my phones, either, and don't tend to use them in places where they'd end up in water or something, I'd still very much appreciate a higher IP rating and availability/compatibility with other regions' networks.

[@danr3778]

my 2016 moto x pure comes apart just like this. use the sim removal tool through a small hole in the back to remove the rubber battery cover and everything is there to be replaced. its got about twice as many screws though but the screen frame and mid frame go together the same.

[@zeniktorres4320]

They still don't sell in Australia :( As for the headphone jack, yea not good.

[@Druid_Plow]

Replacement headphone jack could easily be implemented in a nearly identical way as the charging port. So leaving it out is just them trying to look the part of big tech.

[@NightsIntoDreams777]

I applaud them for trying to make a repairable phone but there's alot of weird decisions also.

[@ErnestJay88]

The mysterious country is "Congo Free State", lead by our beloved His Majesty King Leopold, he's really kind to Congolese people 😎

[@zenmaster24]

guessing the fairphone has a pretty bad IP rating due to everything snapping/screwing place and what looks like no gaskets?

[@august7324]

Correct

[@Marcelo-56]

I have an idea to lower costs: They could put all the components in a heat-sealed envelope and let each buyer assemble it as they prefer, like a fun brain teaser🤗

[@eddiew.4650]

And still charge the same price? No thank you. If you're expecting me to build my own phone, then there better be a deep discount.

[@kaylons]

@@eddiew.4650 Ehhhh... no. Running a company is hard. Selling products is even harder, because the company _needs_ to make a profit to keep developing phones. If you want a deep discount, corners will be cut. And I'm p sure you don't want a cheap phone that sucks. Fairphone still needs to operate within a fair market. They can't undersell their products, otherwise they go out of business and the smartphone market becomes monopolized. The customer isn't always right. (Alsp depending on whether or not this also comes to fruition, you may get a discount since shipping it incomplete may or may not cut down on labor.... but not a deep discount)

[@sihamhamda47]

Framework laptops actually do that thing with their customizable DIY pack, and customers can freely choose any components individually like motherboard, RAM, SSD, display, laptop frames, some other modules and even operating systems I doubt if Fairphone would do the same thing because RAM and storage in phones are all soldered into the mainboard

[@Marcelo-56]

@@sihamhamda47 My son put my computer together by buying all the components separately, choosing the best of each one, it is totally personalized and it works very well.

[@vandarkholme4745]

I remember taking apart my first smart phone and putting it back. (A Motorola milestone 2) All phones used to be like this🤒

[@arthurbttf]

I was thinking about buying one but it's not a choice when it doesn't have a headphone jack

[@jounneejr8073]

My wife and I have 100€ Cubots, removable back cover, replacable battery, normal screws inside & 3.5mm jack, pure Android without any crap software. They work great.

[@alexlandherr]

That clip-on back reminds me of my first Android phone (some Sony Ericsson Xperia X3 I think).

[@foxnight2312]

Fuck them for that missing headphone jack explanation That's bullshit, they could make it modular and just make a hole in the motherboard if they wanted to, they just don't want to lose accessories money Also from my personal experience: I never broke a headphone jack

[@peterjf7723]

I have broken headphone plug, but never the socket.

[@phonewithoutquestion80]

This, and anyone who says wireless audio can be studio quality is either a liar, a shill, or both.

[@foxnight2312]

@@peterjf7723 yeah, that's the issue for me, I break the headphones all the time and just repair them, but the device's headphone jack usually never breaks Also I had a lot of mp3 players from 2004-2007 and you know that their original users used the shit out of them, and still even in that case it's so rare to see a broken one Mfs are just lying to sell their shitty tws unrepairable headphones

[@Minitrucker231]

They're not going to be around for much longer I don't think. Piss poor decisions all around.

[@foxnight2312]

@@phonewithoutquestion80 wireless microphone quality is also really bad, every wired headphones with microphone smashes any airpods microphone quality

[@yaralaterveer]

3:47 I did some research and it's the map from Congo-Kinshasa

[@majstealth]

replaceable batteries are coming back to the eu in the next years, and with that i hope for the rest too.... with 2 additional rubber gromets between the screen - case - back and some screws on the back it could even be waterproof

[@Jagermonsta]

I want to disagree on the 'this should be mandatory' part as far as making phones easy to disassemble , as I personally want a water 'resistant' phone. perhaps all phones without an IP rating should be made to be easy to disassemble?

[@mjc0961]

Nah, because a lot of times for cheaper phones, companies will put the water resistance measures in, but not pay to have it officially IP rated. There should just be more choices in the market, but there won't be because making an easy to disassemble phone means the companies can't try to force premature upgrades to new devices.

[@33blue]

The galaxy S5 had a removable battery and was water resistant??

[@LaskyLabs]

Sad that it doesn't have a headphone jack. But, boy would it make for a nice backup phone, I believe Calyx OS supports it. I'd be better off having a Pixel a series as a backup, but still a nice thing just because of the easily removable battery.

[@joeball1st]

First, the headphone jack thing makes me very sad. Second, I use my right earbud a lot more than my left, so that battery is likely to degrade faster, so having three ability to replace one if it is lost, damaged, or worn out, makes a lot of sense for me.

[@LolJolk]

It seems that the fairphone company is slowly steering away from its original goal. Maybe later models will have less replacement, maybe they will continue not shipping outside Europe for reviewers, maybe they will not be for sale in other countries with the same reasoning from 5 years ago. Who knows, maybe Im still not interested :)

[@Minitrucker231]

Sounds like they're just going to turn into another company that doesn't support right to repair..

[@LolJolk]

@@Minitrucker231 Not gonna happen, they will always claim to support some sort of right to repair but they aren't entitled to keep that position forever. Their market is small in Europe as it is, it won't be long until they cease unless they make a perfect product because currently their phone is not for everyone, even "right to repair" minded people are having second thoughts

[@Minitrucker231]

@@LolJolk they're not going to survive another decade imo

[@kyokazuto]

I wonder how other similar companies like teracube and shiftphone stack up against FP..

[@asfsfas2435]

i am sure those charging brick and cable are everywhere, from you or your family or college's old phone. can find quite a few in home or office. and they don't break

[@glynnetolar4423]

Fairfone, I purpose a name change, virtue signal fone. Not as snappy but more to the point on this product. It's just worthlezsexcept to make someone in the EU feel better. Too many dumb decisions.

[@hakarmalm7756]

The map of the DRC is the cherry on top. Virtue signaling at its finest!

[@davidorama6690]

Brilliant. Me, an iPhone user since the 3G, is wondering if I might switch.

[@hopelessdecoy]

When is Fairphone coming to the USA?????????????

[@marsdoria189]

This is almost a perfect phone. I would buy these if they sold it in the USA.

[@pazz2518]

Dear Fairphone, it should be an awesome feature if you would add a portable charger for a spare battery. When you are low with one of your batteries you can switch out rapidly to the charged one and in the meantime, with the portable charger, you can charge the other one. I hope you read this because I think it could be a big deal for people like me! Seeing a pop-up back cover remind me straight to this possibility.

[@lastlast2078]

Yes. Do this, so I can play PoGo on it without carrying a huge power bank and annoying cable. Also won't have to replace cable several times a year

[@when-do-we-get-a-block-button]

@@lastlast2078 idk about the cable statement, i had to replace my phone charger(usb-c) after 2 years, and even then it still works i just got the second as a backup for when it does fully break

[@lastlast2078]

@@when-do-we-get-a-block-button But you probably don't play PoGo, I'm talking about charging phone while walking and carrying it around every day; this put's a lot more stress on the cable and they break more frequently. If you just charge phone at a plug and leave it while charging, the cable will last way longer.

[@BeingBOTisCareer]

This company had so much potential, but the removal of the headphone jack and the fact that they are selling unrepairable wireless earbuds makes them a hypocrite.

[@vladimirlindemann5422]

As for me I don't need the headphone jack (prefer Bluetooth) and I like the idea of it being removed. For me it's just another hole for the dust and water to get into.

[@gabd.5299]

As you can see there is no gasket in this phone, so plenty of water and dust will gonna sneak in elsewhere. So you just lost an option while gain absolutely nothing.

[@vladimirlindemann5422]

@@gabd.5299 as I said this option is of no value to me and I am surprised that so many people are attached to it. The headphone wires tend to tangle and pull the phone so I prefer to go with Bluetooth. This is natural solution of the problem. So, if I were the engineer, I would also drop the unnecessary part to make the design minimalistic.

[@gabd.5299]

@@vladimirlindemann5422 I get what are you trying to say and I accept that you don’t use wired headphones, but this phone is anything but minimalist. The whole concept is against that. And the stupid reason why they are not included is just a whole new level of bs. Because it can be broken? The fairphone core ideology is that you can EASILY replace almost any part of it. Why is the headphone jack is omitted? Why is it gonna be harder to replace than the charging port? Obviously we know the real reason. They are pushing their own bt headphones.

[@vladimirlindemann5422]

@@gabd.5299 then I wonder whether this is a win or fail.

[@jasmeetsingh6064]

But this phone is shitty zero value for money People on a budget won't buy it and people with a high budget won't bother about it

[@Minitrucker231]

Fairphone: "oh look we're sustainable and repairable but we don't want to sell our devices in other countries"

[@jasmeetsingh6064]

@@Minitrucker231 and repairable doesn't mean i can repair it at home it must be easily repairable by a lowly skilled technician in best possible way

[@IILego_BatmanII]

I don't care about missing headphone jack or dual sim but 1:04 not to sold outside europe or asia, that's one big massive letdown. I would called this Unfairphone.

[@farisghaisani]

THIS IS THE FUTURE

[@BloodAsp]

I definitely want to see a sim slot soldered onto it!

[@PepitoBadHat]

I have an ipod touch first gen . It's so so old now. But works perfectly. But the headphones jack is busted. Doesn't work at all.

[@graywolf2694]

Trying to make a statement by not selling outside of the EU... gotta sell everywhere.

[@geoffreyguez]

Isn't it the shape of the DR Congo ? Nice video !

[@pablouribe1522]

3:51 The country could be the DRC.

[@HR_Breeding]

Clean phone, he also speaks beautifully👍👍👍👍👍

[@AlexHenriksen1283]

I have a Fairphone 3, did the upgrade to FP 3+ in mins, trying out new software like the No goggle Os, E Os er so simple..

[@UncleRico371]

IM HOPING HE DOES DO THE EXTRA SIM. IM CURIOUS TO SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS THEN. 🤞🤞