Ifrit Elemental DMG Module difference [Arknights]

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@harunammie4898
@harunammie4898 3 күн бұрын
Same way how Valaqvin performs in E0 clears, ifrit would just kill the elite/boss way before triggering burn
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 3 күн бұрын
I mean, they did tested against a 90 res enemy tho so theres that. maybe her s3 would perform better against around 70 and her s2 just suck with the burning mod
@xtranathor8143
@xtranathor8143 3 күн бұрын
​@jonnevitu4979 90 RES enemy but skill level 7, which would greatly impact the rate at which burn will trigger.
@harunammie4898
@harunammie4898 2 күн бұрын
@@jonnevitu4979 you don't need more res shred from ifrit, it becomes pointless the more you use it
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 күн бұрын
@@harunammie4898 its the skill that procs the burn the fastest cuz it decreases her atk spd lol, its perfect for the burning mod.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 күн бұрын
@@xtranathor8143 oh thats why. man, the year is 2024 and ppl still test stuff with skill lvl 7 smh...
@bellseb
@bellseb 3 күн бұрын
I’m still completely confused as to how they’re releasing new content related to burn gameplay, especially so considering how they handled necrosis. They literally released this module and warmy WAY before bobbing which will never make sense to me
@L_Nivale
@L_Nivale 2 күн бұрын
uhhh who's bobbing?
@HungImpregnator
@HungImpregnator 2 күн бұрын
​@@L_Nivale 5 star burn ritualist supporter released in Vina Victoria's event
@alostperson2125
@alostperson2125 3 күн бұрын
this module almost feels like nothing if she is not assisted with either Warmy, Bobbing or Viviana in terms of elemental support
@emenn76
@emenn76 2 күн бұрын
couldnt agree more
@villgernumber1132
@villgernumber1132 2 күн бұрын
pretty sure Viviana is a horrible elemental support for ifrit
@IrvineTheHunter
@IrvineTheHunter 2 күн бұрын
​@@villgernumber1132nor really they both rely on arts damage to proc 🔥 and get extra damage during 🔥 so Ifrit gives the shred they both need, but I think it's more of a case of S2 to win + Viv instead of them tag teaming a single opponent.
@Miestwin
@Miestwin 3 күн бұрын
From what I'm seeing, unless you have her in line to DMG a boss or some super tanky mofo, like Gundams, that's being held by a Defender or a Guard, her old mod is better.
@Sceptera
@Sceptera 3 күн бұрын
With Elemental Burn burst, Ifirit becomes the best RES shredder in the game.
@bellart_ramana
@bellart_ramana 3 күн бұрын
if she can proc it
@Sceptera
@Sceptera 3 күн бұрын
@@bellart_ramana Most Enemies are dead by then anyways!
@lordofbanshees
@lordofbanshees 2 күн бұрын
(She already was, the module doesn't even help)
@ShahzebAsh
@ShahzebAsh 2 күн бұрын
Welp, atleast her res shred is OP AF for Reclamation Algorithm, as the bosses are tanky AF. she can easily get the boss from 100 res to 25 res while her s3 and burn are active. Res goes from 25 to 20 if you're using logos as well.
@almondbread8255
@almondbread8255 2 күн бұрын
So -40% just for being in range and additional -30 flat from s3 isn't enough to be the res shredder
@kaynanbirro7277
@kaynanbirro7277 2 күн бұрын
Ok so basically: Mod delta is much worse, UNLESS you manage to hold the enemy in range for 6 business days so burn procs (if they somehow still haven't died from base Ifrit damage). The only way this gets fixed is if they release a burn version of Arturia, no way around it.
@StickmanHatena
@StickmanHatena Күн бұрын
That would be Bobbing. Gotta wait til Vina event
@aadipdip1326
@aadipdip1326 3 күн бұрын
the damage conversion between her attack and the burn damage is only 8% makes it takes too long to trigger the burst effect, i believe it wont work to any other operators who have lower attack stats than her, and her attack speed also is too slow to maximize the burst effect on her own except using S3..... 😢
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 Күн бұрын
She also has the dumb thing where if you don't time her properly, burn procs near the end of S3 and she gets very little bonus ele dmg during the burn.
@xtranathor8143
@xtranathor8143 3 күн бұрын
Honestly, I don't think it's a fair comparison at all. The fact that her skills aren't M3 makes a big difference to how the module affect them due to how the RES calculations or SP generation will interact with all the effects happening. I do appreciate that you made a comparison (since I've not seen any yet), but this can't be used to decide which module is better unless someone wants to invest in only 1 module for Ifrit but also doesn't want to master either skill.
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 Күн бұрын
It makes little relative difference since her ele buildup is tied to % of arts dealt. That is, if she deals 6k to kill an enemy, she will literally never proc burn before the enemy is dead. On Patriot, somehow that makes the comparison even less favorable, as her burn fallout will proc at the end of first S3 rather than start of second S3, meaning she loses out on a lot of ele dmg.
@Luxo-tm9mp
@Luxo-tm9mp Күн бұрын
If the module is suppose to apply burn and it doesnt finish to burn then its not worthy easy as that, did you get it?
@xtranathor8143
@xtranathor8143 Күн бұрын
@@Luxo-tm9mp but if she's S3M3, then the RES is lowered further in addition to higher raw damage and it's easier to apply burn. Do you get it?
@Luxo-tm9mp
@Luxo-tm9mp Күн бұрын
@xtranathor8143 then use another module but not this who is focus on apply burn
@xtranathor8143
@xtranathor8143 Күн бұрын
@@Luxo-tm9mp your reply makes no sense, so I guess you don't understand
@fuaddawdemirov5982
@fuaddawdemirov5982 3 күн бұрын
Thx for showing the comparison
@glitchtwist9762
@glitchtwist9762 3 күн бұрын
So, in short: Module X is better.
@xtranathor8143
@xtranathor8143 3 күн бұрын
Only if you refuse to master her skills. M3 on either skill would make a big difference to the video.
@nexpersonal5066
@nexpersonal5066 3 күн бұрын
@@xtranathor8143 it would still be worse in the majority of situations, but once we get Vivi delta module, it will be really really good
@xtranathor8143
@xtranathor8143 2 күн бұрын
@@nexpersonal5066 that may be true, but it can't be concluded using this video, which is the entire point of my comment. Why would it be better once Vivi gets her Module though? If Ifrit is bad at burn but Vivi is good at it, then it doesn't really make a difference. Edit: oh, the bonus elemental damage. Yeah okay, that might do it!
@nexpersonal5066
@nexpersonal5066 2 күн бұрын
@@xtranathor8143 The whole issue with Burn is taking too long to trigger it, having both together helps both of them trigger faster then get their bonus damage, as well as Ifrit lowering the RES has perfect synergy with Vivi, so they give each other what the other needs, it will be the classic Surtr + Ifrit S3 for RES Debuff but on steroids
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 Күн бұрын
@@nexpersonal5066 -why not just use Surtr instead though- Also Surtr mod gives even higher res ignore, making Ifrit even less necessary for her
@salesberuang4448
@salesberuang4448 3 күн бұрын
Conclusion : Blast caster have low damage output, debuff RES only make her overkilled the enemies. But Delta module is still better for damaging than X module. But if you need ifrit as debuffer, X module is better for better skill cycle.
@Atomik-suksateverything
@Atomik-suksateverything 2 күн бұрын
that burn stack was so low that i think she would only function well with other operators that benefits from these burn stacks like vivi
@dannieblack4245
@dannieblack4245 2 күн бұрын
This module GOES CRAZY WITH VIVIANA
@Piquliar
@Piquliar 2 күн бұрын
Her delta module seems so woefully under-tuned ugh.
@ikerkhazix4519
@ikerkhazix4519 2 күн бұрын
thrank you so much
@tanphamnhat969
@tanphamnhat969 2 күн бұрын
Finally, her dmg is now accurate Edit: still coping for more allies's elemental varieties
@xMYx507
@xMYx507 2 күн бұрын
Boss damage vs Mob clearing.
@kyarumomochi5146
@kyarumomochi5146 Күн бұрын
HG is so backwards with making Necrosis and them Burn lol. Necrosis lasts longer deals more damage and has much better damage dealers, Burn cant be maken great use of as it lasts much shorter and only proper damage dealer regarding it gains its value from the RES reduction than the burn and elemental dmg itself which is Viviana and she is single target...
@Sephiko
@Sephiko 3 күн бұрын
I would only consider this module when I get my Viviana module. Sadly Viviana isn't paired with her in the video.
@jevs1555
@jevs1555 2 күн бұрын
There’s no way that reed’s sister is not a burn ritualist. The support is very much lacking
@qull3840
@qull3840 2 күн бұрын
mod delta only works with vivi mod at this point, because there are no good burn op.
@easypeasy7161
@easypeasy7161 2 күн бұрын
Viviana + Ifrit
@youredad10yearsago91
@youredad10yearsago91 3 күн бұрын
Its so ass 😭
@backfisch4270
@backfisch4270 3 күн бұрын
Hard to trigger the burn effect
@therrogue1193
@therrogue1193 3 күн бұрын
In theory it could be gud, only problem it got is it take ages to trigger it compared to thing like Logos and Eben module. Even Vivi module does it faster than Ifrit
@kr4547
@kr4547 2 күн бұрын
Yeah Ifrit never had an issue with high res so it doesn't do much for her ngl. She just kills them before it procs it and even with her s3, proccing is hard for her. Not to mention it's awful with s2 too and that's the skill most people use.
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 Күн бұрын
@@therrogue1193 Vivi triggers pretty quickly, faster in many cases than Logos and much faster than Eben when he can't proc with a single, fat burst.
@therrogue1193
@therrogue1193 Күн бұрын
@@bluerendar2194 yeah because mainly she is single target most of the time while Logos is aoe on s3. Pretty sure s2 Logos too is relatively the same with Vivi. Tbh DMG is not that big of an issue for her. It's her long setup and inconsistent shield is. Compared Tu Surtr where you just wait few seconds then start bonking them
@TOFUUUUU14
@TOFUUUUU14 2 күн бұрын
mod X is still better since you will use her S2 more often than S3
@Vovchik28
@Vovchik28 3 күн бұрын
Thank you, dude. I bought her for yellow tickets and now I'm thinking about which module is better for her. What about use her second module with Vivian's module?
@backfisch4270
@backfisch4270 2 күн бұрын
Viviana's module takes some time to get to global. I would just use her first module for now
@IrvineTheHunter
@IrvineTheHunter 2 күн бұрын
Vivi already procs fine on S3 and with no module Ifrit saves her from those she can't. I already have X but i can't image getting Y unless we get some good burn support to balance Logoat, Virtuosa, or even Eben. You cant proc multiple elements on a single target, so unless your using them to cover downtimes or on different parts of the map building multiple elements is kind of a waste. Also Ifrit has res shred so she helps our Nec casters on either module, because it's based on % of damage.
@Vovchik28
@Vovchik28 2 күн бұрын
@@IrvineTheHunter I have Viviana and I use her with S2, cause she becomes kind of art centurion. Just put Liskarm behind her and u have strong line. But I thought Viviana and Ifrit will have a good synergy. Cause Ifrit will reduce RES of enemies for each of them. But Viviana will help Ifrit to fill faster elemental damage round through a lot of fast attacks. P.S. I'm so sorry if I made any grammar mistakes, but English is not my native language :(
@putrairhamni8883
@putrairhamni8883 2 күн бұрын
Such a suck module
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