Metal Gear Solid 2 HD - RAY Hijacked Cinematic - Gameplay

[@pathendlem]

Ocelot in MGS2 was at his best as a villain. Ruthless, cold, calculating, always in control. He stole every scene he was in

[@andrejlykov6408]

For me he was also a very charismatic stupid boy in mgs3.

[@Magido89]

They fucked him over in mgs4

[@izaakdamon1979]

@@Magido89 TBF He was pretending to be liquid, well a very bad impersonation.

[@V1ncenz010]

Does this metal gear ray appear again? He was stolen and than what?

[@badgermcbadger1968]

@@V1ncenz010 raiden deletes them at the end of the game

[@EndThusIAm]

"Metal Gear only has room for one!... No seriously. It's a single seater."

[@jeffcarroll1990shock]

"Besides, there’s no way you’re getting your fat ass into that thing"

[@SithxRaverxLuis]

That one is kojima 😂

[@afriend9428]

*They were making a family one that one can have 4 people inside!!! It comes next week folks!*

[@natesell2615]

And that one is Big Boss

[@Bleyfds1995]

@@SithxRaverxLuis Suddenly Kojima pulls Ocelot out and steals RAY by himself XD XD XD

[@MESSier1188]

I love the way Snake yells “Ocelot” after treading through the water. Legend.

[@CODA96]

Same here. I believe there was a compilation of every OCELOT yell from Snake.

[@konradomorelo6819]

@@CODA96 There wouldn't be many as he was insignificant to Snake in MGS, had just few interactions in MGS2 and believed that he was Liquid in MGS4. But there is MGS3 with technically different Snake but still :D

[@GrayFox790]

I absolutely love that part!

[@edwardfetner2513]

that part is so cool. Ocelot knew Snake was there but not vice versa. Snake's calling him out is epic, like "it's YOU!"

[@davidanspach1624]

Lol I literally came to this video after randomly thinking about it this morning.

[@pepsidude8919]

R.I.P. Earl Boen (the voice of Sergei Gurlukovich) (Friday, August 8th, 1941 - Thursday, January 5th, 2023)

[@angelsackson]

Oh what?! Brutal to hear :(

[@pepsidude8919]

@@angelsackson Yeah. I didn't even know about that myself either at first until I found out just a couple months ago since Earl Boen just passed away two months ago back in January and it's a shame now that he's gone already. R.I.P. to him too. 😢

[@spookydonutghosthouse]

RIP

[@miimiibeschde4818]

And solidus's va is gone too

[@pepsidude8919]

@@miimiibeschde4818 Yeah.

[@Pingaheimer]

One of the greatest cinematics in the history of video games, Ocelot is so badass, and pat zimmerman is irreplaceable, that voice is so iconic with the character.

[@dogestranding5047]

Andy Freeman He's cool in this scene but it's so dumb how he's out in the open and nobody retaliates. The main reason Metal Gear characters are "badass" is because of the forced stupidity and incompetence of the enemies.

[@dougy0324]

I was 16 or 17 when I first played this and saw this scene I was blown away

[@Balmung115]

Totally agree. The voice acting in this game is second to none.

[@krono6967]

@@dogestranding5047 Actually, Ocelot owns the bullet-immune device that Fortune had, as shown in the Big Shell chapter. He was likely wearing it here.

[@A-B101]

Bryan Wheelock Yeah it’s clearly hinted at later that he had Fortune’s gizmo and that’s why he wasn’t getting hit

[@QuiteDan]

"What are you planning to do -- steal this thing?" ~Quote from man whose thing was stolen

[@Magido89]

What?

[@BBHSN98]

@@Magido89 It's a reference to that one news headline where the guy that got stabbed said "What are you gonna do, stab me?" before getting stabbed

[@lastyhopper2792]

I think it's supposed to sound funny, since he had to steal a humongous item positioned inside a tanker full of marine personnel.

[@RetroHappyFace]

imagine being 13 and seeing this for the first time and having no context of what metal gear is or that it was even a game franchise...

[@CODA96]

I played the game first when i was 11 or so. Back in 2007. I seriously had no idea, but i remember i was already blown away by the graphics and heavily interested in the storyline.

[@PlasticSorcererTheOriginal]

Try 7...

[@gabrielcornejo238]

That's why is rated M duh

[@Xxandrew01]

Bruh. I played this when I was 5 back in 2003. Needless to say I was confused as fuck. Didn't stop it from being my favorite game of all time though. XD

[@armarelder7260]

That was me i knew i was watching a very interesting movie on my ps2..

[@ssus]

Ocelot: "Shows over. If you wish to live. I suggest you run now" Boy he wasn't joking

[@OnafetsEnovap]

He could have at least given them a head start (say, maybe a minute or two) before setting off the explosives... then again, it wouldn't have been as thrilling.

[@Lysimachus]

4:01 MGS gets some shit for the retcons but at least they kept this part true - the Shagohod was developed by a Russian scientist, Sokolov, and the designs for a bipedal tank originated from another Russian scientist, Granin, 40 years earlier as revealed in MGS3. So there is a point behind Gurlokovich believing that Ray was going to be "taken back" by Russia, despite him being betrayed.

[@DjFulcrum]

Made more sense with the existence of OKB-0 in MGSV

[@oi6915]

Not to mention pre MGS3 the original Metal Gear was developed by russian scientist (Petrovich Madnar)

[@Crusher29]

Sokolov?

[@oi6915]

@@Crusher29 nah Madnar in the msx games, so throughout each game they always kept the Russian background

[@Crusher29]

@@oi6915 Virtual mission?

[@Uncle_Troy]

Imagine this being the first Metal Gear game you played and wondering what the hell is going on in this scene...

[@thephantomoftheparadise5666]

Guilty.

[@evanvera22]

That was me at 6 years old. Played the game and watched my older bro play the game and was like😮

[@TheDavo10001]

That was me. It only made sense later when I finally played MGS 1

[@Yamato-t3d]

Me too , MGS2 was actually my first MGS , of course after completing it and being blown away by it , i immediately moved onto MGS1 like a serious bitch.

[@joejones8454]

Yes that was me. MGS2 was the first game I played in the series I was hooked!

[@madjack1748]

About 200 Highly trained marines and a camera crew pointing directly at the commandant and a fat Russian guy get's the drop on them. Gurlukovich is Big Boss

[@kingbyrd.1512]

WAS Big Boss...

[@milkcarton8500]

They both have the gizmo thing. The only person around there capable of piercing a bullet in him is someone who has the same cutting edge tech too. That was ocelot. That’s how ocelot killed fortune.

[@burntgrahamcracker2866]

Dave Harris no ocelot hit fortune because she wasn't wearing the device. He was, there's only one device.

[@dack]

@@kingbyrd.1512 now he's just big boss' kid

[@CODA96]

@@milkcarton8500 What gizmo thing? I've been playing every single Metal Gear for probably about 10 years now, and i still didnt get what ocelot was wearing.

[@venomsymbiote4823]

Man at 7:32 seeing snake just bravely charge threw that water and run past those marines, who he previously had to sneak by. Then run right in front of his enemy and shout OCELOT while aiming his gun at him, is so EPIC!!! He is so brave, mad respect for solid snake

[@OllieLK]

glad u respect a fictional character

[@schnapps2241]

@@OllieLK bet you're fun at parties

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Through. NOT threw.

[@squib9]

​@@OllieLK oh go sit on a cactus Ollie you chubby toff

[@ahmadrahimkhan]

He really is!

[@lntimidatingxbl5857]

Liquid just has a thing for hijacking Metal Gears. Sahelanthropus, REX, RAY...

[@SpeedRacer896]

Such a lust for hijacking...WHOOO?!

[@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б]

Yes, he does. Thank God he didn't hijack Rex in MGS4 and was too dead to hijack Metal Gear Exelsus.

[@thealgerian3285]

Liquid never hijiacked RAY, Ocelot did.

[@clairelurose1386]

@@thealgerian3285 Hypnotic suggestion!

[@stardust_sonic]

No, Liquid only has a thing for hijacking in general : Sahelanthropus, REX, Ocelot, RAY, those military guns in MGS4, even GW isn't safe from Liquid's hijacking.

[@guswindsor8842]

How many people picked up on Ocelot talking about Snake's accelerated aging here as a foreshadowing for MGS4 the first time?

[@field33P]

wasn’t accelerated ageing discussed in MGS1 already?

[@pedrocesarrocha9298]

@@field33P Where?

[@BLACULA-Skeewoah]

@@pedrocesarrocha9298 Gray Fox: "snake, you haven't aged well" Colonel: "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" In fact, most of the characters make reference to snake's age

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@BLACULA-Skeewoah None of those hint towards accelerated aging as a result of being a clone though, like Liquid did here. Those were just normal comments for any soldier, since battles take a toll on you and you’re usually at your best during your youth. Big boss has the worst case, the difference between his 25 year old self in Snake Eater vs his 35 year old self in Peace Walker is absurdly huge, due to the cost and trauma of Snake Eater.

[@Majhool95]

@@Alex_Logan22 ahh the snake you’re referring to is the Big Boss aka Naked Snake not solid snake

[@BertoPlease]

I love the implication that Liquid feels like hot shit for stealing a body because his old body would've rapidly aged.... *as he inhabits the body of a 70-year-old*

[@AzelfandQuilava]

Not that you'd be able to tell. Its not like Ocelot is slow in his old age.

[@FantomMisfit]

​@@AzelfandQuilavaA badass like his mom

[@FantomMisfit]

Tbf 4 (or is it 8?) Years from now Snake is in worse shape physically from rapid accelerating aging so Liquid did get the better deal here. Well until Ocelot removed that arm and got a cybernetic one and started pretending to be him...oh well Liquid :P

[@CODA96]

@@FantomMisfit Worst plottwist in Metal Gear in my opinion. You can bet Liquid would have prevented Ocelot from removing the arm, by taking over entirely. Which would have been a way better storyline than Ocelot altering his brain in 4.

[@FantomMisfit]

@@CODA96 Yeah thats fair he seemed to be able to exert himself anytime he wanted to in 2.

[@TheBeholderist]

"You're going down Snake, with this tanker!" Love that line, love that powerful Liquid's voice.

[@Snowbird_89]

“You don’t have what it takes after all.”

[@ImWithTeamTrinity]

@@Snowbird_89 "Like surfing? Its a good way to go!"

[@Theemilioyap]

19 years ago wow how time flies and game is still fantastic!

[@camm8642]

I miss Liquid Snake Kojima said if he knew how popular he would have been he wouldn't have killed him hindsight is 20/20 of course.

[@MrOrlandodh12]

I hated how they killed liquid he was the perfect villain along with ocelot that is the worst thing he did in gaming I wish he could of just been frozen then brought back to life.

[@FearsomeVoid]

Fuck Liquid, we only need Ocelot

[@psg1208]

Liquid is awesome, ocelot was too but I prefer liquid as a primary antagonist.

[@Crimson_Snake1]

Cam M A mistake any Franchise creator can make.

[@Alex_Logan22]

In large part due to the English VO that he didn’t really oversee, so he couldn’t really predict how the character was going to be received exactly.

[@joeytrimboli2845]

This is the best cutscene in any game. And Ocelot’s outfits in this game = drip

[@i.d.9754]

I can't stop listening to Liquid and Ocelot's dual voice moment at 8:31. It's just so satisfying to hear

[@repubblesmcglonky8990]

Konami on the MGS IP in 2030: What are you planning to do? Steal this thing? Kojima: No, no, I'm taking it back

[@thephantomoftheparadise5666]

Konami did Kojima dirty. If he can get it back then he should.

[@Gonkers20XX]

There were some really awesome games on the PS2. I was 8-9 years old when this game was released and I remember it fondly.

[@Magido89]

How many people can you cross and betray Ocelot: yes

[@denifnaf5874]

His own hand betrayed him😂

[@FantomMisfit]

​@@denifnaf5874He then betrays that arm and then betrays his mind with drugs and hypnosis. He then betrays everyone by tricking Snake into destroying the Patriots

[@gurunhitam3414]

Ocelot is always the best villain, "Mother Russia can ROT for all i care" and "I abandon her since cold war" makes me want to betray my country and join him lmfao

[@usul573]

Crazy that anyone trusts him, you'd think Liquid, Sergei, and Solidus would know better. Olga just says "Are you sure you can trust him?" so she had a bad feeling about him.

[@gurunhitam3414]

@@usul573 Yeah, he seems like a person who shit on the word named "Loyalty" on their faces every fucking time, except for Big Boss, he always idolizes him. He's a true form of HYPE

[@bujubanton3829]

@@usul573 he is legend of his own, highly skilled and resourceful, also a damn good spy, they probably either get caught in his web or thing they can outmaneuver him

[@usul573]

@@gurunhitam3414 I just look up his wiki page about affiliation, and it was like every group that exists in the MGS universe haha.

[@Mars_over_seer]

This scene feels completely different after playing MGS3 with how the game expanded Ocelot and Metal Gear. - The Shagohod was the first prototype of Metal Gear developed in Russia. - Granin designed the intial blueprints for Metal Gear - Ocelot revealing he abandoned Russia during the Cold War, as it turns out he was a triple agent by the end of MGS3

[@Timliu92]

Ocelot is probably the most badass video game villain ever. There is an enigma in him since he does not side with anyone, and not to mention he is always cool as ice.

[@badgermcbadger1968]

Except big boss

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@badgermcbadger1968 even tho he is supposed to be a villain he wasn't really portrayed much as one, only in metal gear 2, but barely

[@badgermcbadger1968]

@@ilikepigeons6101 I meant how ocelot never betrayed big boss

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@badgermcbadger1968 oh ok

[@JThom529]

His loyalty is basically only to Big Boss (and in a way his own mother The Boss from Snake Eater)

[@BillGunslinger]

4:15 When your friend borrows your game and doesn't return it to you

[@ADM1500]

I regret to inform you that I have no intention of trading my PS2 game for two of your least favorite PS1 games and leftover lunch money. As I said, I came to take it back.

[@joepearson6644]

Borrows in pristine condition comes back looking like it a battle with metal gear ray

[@CarlosRodriguez-lk8oz]

Otacon screaming “snaaaaaake” brings back memories when I was little I wasn’t as good as my brothers and cousins till I figured the enemy’s walking pattern 😄😂

[@thatweirdgreenparrot7715]

Ahhhh I miss those long cutscenes in Phantom Pain...

[@partycakeboy92]

Who knows, maybe it was real for a while.

[@obidahasdia4095]

IKR

[@CODA96]

@Excelsior Metal Gear is like an interactive movie. Most people that dislike the cutscenes dont like flow in videogames, they just wanna blow something up. I really enjoyed every cutscene, hell even every codec call. It had so much heart poured into it, i couldnt resist. I bet 60% of my overall MGS3 playtime was just listening to sigint and Para-Medic. I think the cutscenes are amazing, and not generic like the rest of games nowadays.

[@CODA96]

@Excelsior You are right, Kojima tends to overdo things, but exactly that is what makes MGS unique. It could have been yet another ''Heroic americans save the world from evil russian'' story, but it has so many facettes on so many levels, that im glad that Kojima overdoes it. Same with Death Stranding now. Its different from the crap people are used to, and a COMPLETELY different gaming experience - yet people mock it for carrying things around. UPS Simulator. Kojima always takes a different approach, and i love that. He isnt afraid to put it in.

[@daskommando2507]

@@CODA96 Those are the cavemen who always play every CoD that comes out and thinks they are groundbreaking.

[@duskbringer4583]

Lesson? Never challenge Ocelot in quick-draw.

[@arsenelupin1854]

Duskbringer unless it's John Marston

[@someidiots5510]

@@arsenelupin1854 or Arthur Morgan

[@christophercarlisle7887]

@@someidiots5510 pfft both would still lose

[@evagelinadicante9840]

@@christophercarlisle7887 red harlow is also quick on the draw

[@ilikepigeons6101]

Ocelot would just use his nanomachines hax

[@ianchesney]

The ''LA-li-lu-le-lo''!

[@ColonelFrontline1152]

[Ian Chesney] How's that -- possible?!.

[@kyronharvey9545]

@@ColonelFrontline1152 Ocelot You Have You Sold Us Out.

[@ColonelFrontline1152]

@@kyronharvey9545 "I was never i your employ Gurlukovich."

[@kyronharvey9545]

@@ColonelFrontline1152 are you still in league with solidus.

[@ColonelFrontline1152]

@@kyronharvey9545 No hard feelings Colonel. Mother Russia can rot, for all I care.

[@gochem3013]

6:01 Earl Boen's scream is legendary.

[@ShaneMurphyHendrickson]

The music and the scene that play 13:15 gets me excited every time.

[@Kez90]

Didn't realise what liquid meant by "not so young anymore ay snake " until I played mgs4

[@dillonkinder9296]

I like how Ocelot is one of those characters he gets away in every game but not in 4

[@gamingawesomeness222]

Of course, 4 is the end. There’s nowhere to get away to

[@vadont]

0:54 and the biggest truth i ever heard has been spoken in a video game xD

[@dogestranding5047]

vadont It's really not true "xD"

[@victorgz2907]

@@dogestranding5047 It really is

[@z_styles]

Agreed

[@ShasOSwoll]

How did a cargo hold full of marines become 12 guys?

[@Magido89]

They kinda forgot about the other ones

[@lilmurfer]

@@Magido89 kinda like how Dany forgot about the Iron Fleet?

[@afriend9428]

*They are called Sea Men so it was easy to carry them! LOL!* ⭐️

[@ericfieldman]

There were 3 holds and I think the last one actually was similar to that number.

[@CODA96]

PS2 man. Back in the trailers they even showed gameplay footage of you actually escaping the sinking ship, filling with water. But the PS2 probably couldnt handle it. Just look at the graphics: This game was insane for its time. And apparently it even ran at 60FPS NATIVE. Thats complete bonkers.

[@darthsidious2788]

This scene was soo powerful this game is so great

[@Ridley_Lockhart]

The most epic game ... 🎮🤷👊😅

[@elmanolocko8755]

l just love Revolver Ocelot's voice!!!

[@thebatman6781]

That's Cam Clarke for you.

[@misterxzxc7314]

@@thebatman6781 that's liquid ocelot died a long time ago

[@thebatman6781]

@@misterxzxc7314 you mean the actor or Liquid Snake because Liquid Ocelot wasn't voiced by Cam Clark.

[@tehsnipatres208]

I AM Batman ummm...yeah he was. In MGS2 Liquid Ocelot was voices by Cam Clarke.

[@thebatman6781]

@@tehsnipatres208 no it's Patric Zimmerman but when he sounded like Liquid after turning on Solidus, Ocelot sounded like Cam Clark.

[@macrussell78]

I've played this game so many times this scene is itched into my brain to the point i can act out every character word for word.

[@JThom529]

Poor Gurlokovich, died trying to salvage what was left of his homeland and yet his last words were of his daughter he wanted to protect and hoping she would succeed where he failed. And she did, because even though she died, her own daughter still lives. Hope Ocelot took comfort in his own death giving Big Boss’s son a final fight before joining him in the after life, along with his own mother The Boss. All the needless death and deception, he did it all for Big Boss, and vicariously, for his mother. Whether Ocelot can be seen as pitiful or evil makes him all the more interesting. Perhaps the world they live in is hell heh

[@assassincreed2087]

He deserves an episode of analyzing evil

[@victorgz2907]

"No one has to die needlessly"

[@kakanayaka1176]

*kills the entire fucking ship

[@professorsosa880]

More than 20 years later, one of the best games ever made and one of the best scenes in gaming history.

[@keithbeckett1349]

What a majestic beast Ray is

[@ahmadrahimkhan]

the cool thing that you fight her with REX in mgs 4

[@TMX1138]

10:32 I think Liquid Ocelot's line where he says, "You don't have what it takes after all!" would've made more sense if they preceded it with a gameplay part where you engage in an unwinnable boss fight against Metal Gear Ray. Also on a side note, I think they should've re-dubbed Liquid Ocelot's voice when he's possessed by Liquid Snake's arm with Patrick Zimmerman (Ocelot's voice), similar to how he sounded in MGS4.

[@kingsboro1]

There was no need since we knew it was liquid from the beginning it was only at the end when ocelot resurface I also heard that Japanese voice actor of ocelot died so they had liquids voice actor

[@CODA96]

@@kingsboro1 No, Ocelot wasnt possessed by liquid in 4. He removed the arm. He just acted like him. MGS2 Ocelot - Liquids arm, could be controlled by him MGS4 Ocelot - removed Liquids arm a long time ago, used nanomashines to shape his mind into Liquids.

[@kingsboro1]

@@CODA96 he used hypnosis to pretend to be control by liquids arm after that he removed it allowed liquid psych to takeover through the nano machines my comment was about the voice

[@CODA96]

@@kingsboro1 His english MGS2 voice and MGS4 voice are different, arent they? IDK aboutt he japanese voice actor, thought you were asking about why his voice changed tho.

[@TMX1138]

CODA Ocelot's original Japanese VA died before MGS4 was in production, so they had to use Liquid Snake's Japanese VA for Ocelot in MGS4, even though Patric Zimmerman still played Ocelot in the dub of MGS4, though he added a slight British accent to his voice for when his mind was replaced with Liquid's via nanomachines and psychotherapy.

[@xXFOYXxQ8]

Man this game was way ahead of its time!

[@noremac387]

Gotta love those PS1 graphics flashbacks!

[@sonic1135]

To those don't understand 4:39 "La li lu le lo" IS the Patriots it's their censored name the commander isnt authorised to even say "Patriots " and the nanomachines he probably has changed his words so that comes out

[@truebigboss]

Ocelot, the son of The Joy and The Sorrow, the only man skilled enough to revive Big Boss in the end.

[@armarelder7260]

Ocelot was the son big boss was talkin about in msg3???

[@truebigboss]

@@armarelder7260 yes

[@michelecompagno4861]

What a blurred memory Snake has about Ocelot, hasn't he?😂

[@Robert-dt3is]

Ocelot looks like he would have Blue Ribbon in his fridge.

[@JulioHernandez-wy8nh]

Heiniken? FUCK THAT SHIT!

[@fabiospasiano9885]

11:06 is this guy serious? A pistol?

[@TheMrCHELL]

😂😂😂😂

[@codafett]

This is Ocelot's coolest outfit if you ask me

[@Faze9784]

i completed this game at least 8 times.

[@vultur311]

me too...just to get infinite ammo and invisibility

[@darkram13]

I'd imagine I've done 10 times myself. Not bragging - just huge admirer of MGS2

[@somefuckinguy4519]

Me too. But mgs on ps1 I've got about 100 or more finishes.

[@Vollification]

Those are rookie numbers... ;)

[@mikehunt8247]

Did it all on difficulties as a kid. One of my favorite games ever. Video games have taken a really big shit in the more recent years

[@BDNeon]

13:59 crowning music of awesome.

[@youngfox2186]

Mu headcanon is that in MGS2 Ocelot was actually being possessed by Liquid's spirit (he accidentally summoned him through the connection with his arm due to having inherited The Sorrow's powers). In MGS4, however, he managed to get rid of both Liquid's arm and spirit and implemented his persona through nanomachines. That may be verified by Ocelot having Liquid's voice in MGS2 but his own voice in MGS4.

[@CODA96]

Exactly right. I wish they would have kept Liquid in MGS4 instead.

[@AdamWest1290]

"And of a liar, Americans are too in love with the sound of their own voice to speak the truth" Very very true

[@ocelot72]

Actually i would've said politicians in place of Americans

[@VideoGamesAndTheWorld]

@@ocelot72 true about politicians. But Americans are indeed in love with their own voice. Be they left or right.

[@edwinsparda7622]

@@VideoGamesAndTheWorld They actually believe they're the ones who defeated Nazi Germany.

[@bennittotheburrito9606]

@@edwinsparda7622no one country won ww2

[@FantomMisfit]

​@@edwinsparda7622I'm just saying yall were losing then we joined and then yall won....also nope as an American I will ignore any facts that are inconvenient to my narrative and won't acknowledge that it was most likely because Hitler f*ked around and found out with the Soviet Union and turned it into a 2 front war 😂

[@shapen360]

Liquid Snake tells Solid Snake that Big Boss was in his late fifties during the Les Enfants Terribles project, but the twins were conceived in 1971. According to Vladimir Zadornov, during the peace walker project, Big Boss was 39 in 1974, meaning Big Boss was in his mid thirties and not late fifties during the project.

[@Jameslawz]

Kojima confirmed he fucked up with this fact but later "rectified" the scene by saying that maybe Liquid wasn't always in the know about certain things, since he didn't even know he was the dominant clone. It's a good save but he got lucky since this actually fits with Liquid's personality.

[@Jameslawz]

EddDoubleDD Considering the situation it was not lazy, Kojima is far from lazy and he's subjected to make a few mistakes (he's only human) and it was a good save because lucky for him, it fits well with the story and Liquid's persona. If he didn't have that then he would have had to retcon the whole scene entirely or make up a new BS story arc to explain that one scene which is backtracking and no one likes backtracked story telling, it's tedious and boring (here's looking at you Naruto). What part of my comment did you not understand when I said "Kojima fucked up" he's acknowledged it and even admitted to it, allot of developers won't do that but at least he addressed the situation and the story can still flow, he was lucky...very lucky he had something to fall back on that actually worked. Kojima's biggest fuck up though is Liquid's arm and how that whole segment got retconned into Ocelot instead, tricking the Nanomachines and the system to believe he was Liquid. This was down to Kojima's poor understanding of genetics, which is understandable, he's not a biologist or a scientist but his research on the subject was a bit lack luster. This pissed off allot of fans (myself included). IMO he should have just rolled with it, the games have always been sci-fi/fantasy with sprinkles of reality, he's not a school teacher, he doesn't have that responsibility, this is entertainment.

[@Jameslawz]

EddDoubleDD No offence bro, but you sound like you don't know Kojima and his work ethic at all and you sound like you're new to the series and to the franchise as a whole. There's a strong difference between the words "lazy" and making a "mistake", it's clear as day, the two words are in contrast, they aren't even related in context. You're hanging this guy's neck for a minor detail and disowning and unacknowledging his hard work for a few minor details that don't sit well with you? That's kinda pathetic. I am sorry, but I can't take you seriously after you posted that. Everyone makes mistakes, more so when you go back in time on your own story to create a prequel that hasn't already been set in stone to start off a new branch in the story but at least he did his best to fit it in with the Solid timeline. Liquid/Ocelot brings up some contradictions in MGS2 but nothing that wasn't salvaged later. The story as a whole is pretty SOLID (no pun intended). MGS4 was a weaker story because it wasn't hiding behind a guise of fantasy but more of a unveiling as the final curtain draws so it's allot harder to inject plot twists in a finale when your goal is to make sense of all this and as the smoke clears and the dust settles, you see where Koijma was pointing us too and what Snake was fighting for. MGS4's story was also rushed as Kojima was under a strict time frame to complete it, not to mention he was getting death threats to even make the game in the first place (and that was from the Japanese fan base...whom are quite conservative people).

[@Jameslawz]

EddDoubleDD Okay firstly, WTF are you smoking man, lay off it. Secondly, you've resulted to insults, nice one man I can tell you take to criticism like a champ and are you too stupid to not notice I've said I hated that from Kojima? So calling me a "fan boy" is completely redundant? The rest of your comment is a load of waffle strung together with no point or purpose. We are talking about a minor retcon that got salvaged and you bring in economics? (seriously, lay off them funny cigarettes, they are bad for you). Metal Gear Solid as a stand alone drew from MG and MG2:SS. Big Boss was a villain but his story wasn't as fleshed out as it was when MGS3 rolled out. MGS2 took on a new narrative on proxies and AIs and touched on themes of social political awareness and manipulation. Raiden was a new actor on the stage and Big Shell was the puppet show. Kojima wanted to make Solid Snake look like more of a legend, so looking from the outside in we get to admire him instead of playing out his actions and becoming the legend. MGS3 setup the ground works for MGS2 (NOT MG or MG2:SS). Big Boss being the good guy was a new concept. MGS4 tied up lose ends left behind by MGS2 cliff hangers. Peace Walker sets up the ground work for Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Now there is a gap in the story where Big Boss was in a coma which doesn't get explained in Metal Gear Solid. I know, let's make a game for it to become a complete circle. Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain will serve as a transitional phase to link up Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, so now Peace Walker supports MGSV and MGSV squeezes in to support the beginning of Metal Gear. Reading that timeline, the MGS series was supposed to end at MGS2. Kojima didn't write past that timeline. Big Boss having his own game was literally because Kojima didn't know how to continue the SOLID saga past this point. I mean MGS2 was literally a copy of MGS with a few altercations, but dressed differently to simulate the first game's success. Ask yourself if he could really get away with making a 3rd game that copied the first 2? Big Boss is allot more fleshed out than Solid Snake who was the original protagonist of the series. It's a shame because everyone now dick rides Big Boss when I remember back in the days of MGS no one even heard of him and just thought of him as another bad guy. My point is, the first two stories were more fictional writing, the backdrop storytelling from Big Boss' perspective fleshes out the saga entirely and you understand what Solid Snake is fighting for and he's not just some mindless rogue taking down Metal Gears which is what you see in the first two iterations of games. With that, I am done talking to you. Anyone who can't hold an intelligent conversation without resorting to flaming and insults don't deserve my time, there are more than enough people of your caliber on KZbin to talk too, you won't be alone.

[@Jameslawz]

EddDoubleDD Honestly, stop smoking crack. What does economics have to do with Liquid's arm being retconned? Are you that lost with the conversation that you have to fly off on a new tangent? "I also pay attention to our economic system and industry news" You're telling me you've followed Japan's economics and predicted Konami would venture into new IPs before it even happened? Where were you when Kojima needed you! Shit son! What a joke, you probably don't even know what's going on with the economy in your own backyard let alone in a foreign country, but Weaboos like to think they know it all, they are part Japanese after all (in their heads...). Kojima planned on ending the series after MGS2 and wanted to work on other things. He said he would later revisit MGS but at a later time. Fans were sending Kojima death threats to make another MGS game and even camped outside of his office begging for another game (this is 1 of 2 times that this has happened, the other time was to make MGS4). MGS2 was the highest grossing profit game of any in the series, MGS4 sold the least and cost Konami the most. MGS3 was the only game well received by old and new fans alike, with MGS and MGS2 getting mixed receptions from new fans. Konami wants to liquidate its shares in the gaming market because there is no future for console gaming in Japan with the current situation with Sony ($6 billion in debt) forcing to reduce the cost of all TV sets and even their home console units. The future of Japan is within mobile technology, everyone in Japan is going mobile (and soon, eventually nano). Thus supply and demand, Konami is a business, it understands its consumers, it knows what the industry demands and it shall supply to its demands. Konami's gaming industry is held together by one man, Hideo Kojima and the MGS franchise, PES and Silent Hills are dead. Kojima costs Konami more in production costs than they receive in profitable returns. From a business stand point, Kojima is more of a liability than a resource or a means of income. Konami make the bulk of their money through the casino industry, microtransactions and gym products, even bottled water! Their gaming division is obsolete and they are reformatting the department and supplying the needs of mobile gamers on mobile platforms. Now explain to me how the fuck Japan's economy in 2015 has affected the retcon of Liquid's arm? Dumbass...

[@solidus2916]

Steal ? NO , NO im taking it back

[@GenocidalSquid]

Yes.. returned. To the “Patriots”!

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Calvin Nathan Uy The la li lu Le lo?

[@kingkoop28]

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec How's that possible

[@JackYOgurl606]

As a kid I NEVER skipped this cut scene...it was always so amazing to watch...still is! Kojima really knew how to tell a story.

[@-Markus-]

The camera is so great in this sequence!

[@6ch6ris6]

i have watched this single cutscene like 100 times

[@davidanspach1624]

"Americans are too in love with the sound of their own voice to speak the truth." - Shalashashka

[@denifnaf5874]

*shalashashashashashashkashashashashashka

[@davidanspach1624]

@@denifnaf5874 took me a couple times to spell it

[@VioletBandicoot]

Commandant: You think you can steal from us and just walk away?! Ocelot:

[@brettpritchard265]

Ocelot: Let's not blowwww things out of proportion.

[@Megaman11432]

8:17 Liquid Snake has returned!!!! He was awakened on ocelot, he is back

[@Gingerbread-jc4cm]

3:04 This guy's position, just chilling on his side all casual.

[@jasonbrowning6247]

My first memories of every playing video games was this game on ps2. My dad was a fan of the series

[@vadont]

10:39 my favorite Liquid Ocelot line

[@A-B101]

10:32

[@vadont]

@@A-B101 0:54

[@AwaisMunawar1]

I am Shalashaska ..also called Revolver Ocelot!! Coolest character ever

[@Frenki94]

I'm glad you noticed comrade. I abandoned "her" during the Cold War.

[@TheOriginalMoc]

Revolver Ocelot needs his own film, i mean how fuckin cool is he.

[@glitchxedfix134]

I still say after Ocelot killed the Commandant and Gurlukovich, why didn't the Marines open fire?

[@Nix11999]

Or snake before ocelot jumped in Metal gear

[@Hugs_4_Bugs_]

Doesn't matter, he has that bullet deflecter device

[@jayguero2123]

Maybe they were scared of an unannounced bluff? Perhaps they thought Ocelot had the whole room secure.

[@Nakarotto1]

@Starscream91 I do think he did have it. Otherwise they are like the Stormtroopers of star wars and can't aim for s*** when Ocelot is just walking to the cockpit of Ray.

[@arakihirohiko580]

Perhaps they were afraid that he would blow up the ship?

[@tommi_marsetio]

ocelot was so cool here, especially when he shoot his revolvers

[@shinrajordan]

cut the tension with a knife.........luv it

[@zharnadir3473]

Best mgs cinematic

[@GCXBUGaming]

Possible Big Boss age: (Solid and Liquid Snake are born in 1972.) 1915+57=1972 1916+56=1972 1917+55=1972 1915+99=2014 1916+98=2014 1917+97=2014 Official Big Boss age from Konami: 1935+57=1992 1935+58=1993 1935+59=1994 1935+79=2014

[@A-B101]

Big Boss perhaps was originally a WW1 veteran

[@AtheismF7W]

@@A-B101 He was born in 1936. This part has been retconned. Big Boss (naked snake) wasn't in his 50's when they cloned him. He was around 32 (1972)~.

[@kinghashbrown7998]

ocelot turning into liquid confused the fuck out of me and occasionally still does

[@WeiAkuIrzuan]

They should use that voice till mgs 4...more exiciting to play

[@DoctorFail]

Liquid: I LIVE ON THROUGH THIS AHM! Snake: Arm*

[@NewHaven420]

5:25 the coolest, most cinematic kill in all of gaming history.

[@ikagura]

Ah, like Doctor Strangelove fighting against his right arm.

[@Zoom.x9]

The only metal gear game I ever played and one of the best games I ever played

[@henrlima87]

Oh you need to play the first one. At least.

[@oi6915]

​@@henrlima87 Metal Gear msx? Or mgs1?

[@henrlima87]

@@oi6915 both are great, but i was referring to the first solid, not the first metal gear.

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

Someone pointed out that you can see the Russians prepping to ambush on one of the screens beforehand Stuff like this makes me admire Kojima for his details

[@thefearofg0ds758]

I really liked Ocelot's "Shalashaska" moniker. Him having this boogeyman like reputation and seeing how respected(and feared) he was within the russian camp really added to his character. Especially after his *Noone knows who I really am...* Line at the end of MGS1. When I first played MGS2 as a kid I thought that was his name lol. It really added a lot of mystery and intrigue and gave a since that we only truly have a small grasp of how dangerous this guy is(as we know so little about who he even is).

[@kimmolaine8069]

Ocelot is the best villain ever.

[@dubiouscaesar3709]

Imagine ocelot interrupting a wef summit.

[@angelsackson]

One day… One day… 💖

[@SGVB22]

Camo and coat Revolver is my favorite look 😍

[@MrAroiko]

Epic!

[@Aivottaja]

So. In the Japanese version, Ocelot has his own voice instead of Liquid's. How was Snake's first guess Liquid, then? Even in a world with telekinesis (that is assumed to have been the pinnacle of supernatural in Snake's life before this), the spirit of his dead clone brother hijacking Ocelot's body was a shot in the dark, IMO XD

[@InfernoCleric384]

Ocelot doesn't have his own voice there. It's still Liquid's voice. Then again, it's implied that Liquid's voice is just for the viewer's discretion, and in-universe it's still Ocelot's voice. So yeah, it's weird that Snake immeadiately guesses Liquid.

[@Aivottaja]

@@InfernoCleric384 It was for the viewer's discretion. This was confirmed by Kojima. So canonically Snake hears Ocelot's voice. But it takes him just a couple of seconds to jump to the conclusion that Liquid is possessing him :D

[@InfernoCleric384]

@@Aivottaja Yes, of course. It was also in a digital novel, where you only ever hear Liquid when Ocelot and Liquid are fighting inside Ocelot's head. I think that's where I found out.

[@clubpenguin13531]

My guess as to how Snake knew was because Ocelot started calling him "brother" when the only guy he knew at that time who called him that was Liquid

[@shinkenger2011]

​@@clubpenguin13531Also the fist thing, that was Liquid's signature

[@Galactis1]

So much of the game I've played over and over for certain things.

[@ADM1500]

6:15 COVID cancelling of all my Summer plans.

[@FantomMisfit]

For those of you wondering why they didnt just shoot him it wouldnt have worked dude learned from MGS1 and was wearing that bullet deflection device Fortune had. The bullet would have just whizzed around him. They do try to shoot him later but all the bullets mysteriously miss...thats why.

[@dillonkinder9296]

I like how Gurlukovich soldiers is trying average their commander but Ocelot got the super quick shots

[@jeffshrik727]

6:04 Ocelot with the revolver Drop..#epicness #legendary # savage 100. purely no fucks given

[@elruso8403]

10:58 Those guys are not smart if they were thought that they can take out Metal Gear Ray with the Rifle ))

[@datguy8805]

El Ruso they might as well try, also heat of the moment

[@Zer0Mercy83]

Those dudes are Marines, they’ll fight to the death.

[@samikalastaja]

"Live through this arm" - WTF?

[@Jameslawz]

That got retconned, play MGS4 to understand.

[@DoctorFail]

ghosts

[@duskbringer4583]

Nanomachines.

[@axel9473]

It wasn't retconned. In this game Liquid is actually living inside Ocelot, which is why Ocelot replaced the arm as we see in MGS4. That's when the nanomachines and mindcontrol and shit come into play.

[@SerpentineDeity]

@@axel9473 Definitely a retcon prompted by the editor. Kojima created The Sorrow as Ocelot's father to explain Ocelot's affinity for anchoring Liquid's soul from the arm. At some point in MGS4 the editor points out how stupid this is and they patch it up with nanomachines machina like everything else. If that were liquid do you really think he would have allowed Ocelot to remove the arm? Even the ending to the game seems to lead to a more spiritual/scifi path before he switched to a more convenient way to tidy up all the plot threads.

[@kayjeld1813]

The best part of this video is that I found it by typing 'MGS2 Ocelot coat shot' in the search bar 😤

[@bluegoose7832]

This is the cutscene I discovered that you cant pause cutscenes... had to do something right when this custscene started, pressed Start on my controller, and it skipped ahead in the cutscene... hence why I am here. Looks like I missed 15 minutes worth of story

[@WB_19]

2:30 Pvt. Zangief: "Quick change the channel"

[@robertneak8613]

Hands down msg game have the best cinematic in gaming history I don't care what anyone say it's the true.Somen of there cutscene be like any where from 15mins to 45mins sometimes lol but love it.