Hal Response to Verhulst Calling Him Out

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[@K2195_]

Evan took the "F*ck the Big 3 it's just Big E" joke too literal lmao

[@baronsonics]

its gotta be planned out for the views, idek im schiz af rn

[@deadw3ightt]

as fucked up as this is between evan and hal, im honestly rlly happy to know that hal and reps are still good and have a lot of respect for eachother. that last clip w reps comment made me hella smile and this situation would be more fucked up if the beef was between those two and not with evan

[@yokaihorizon2931]

Also knowing he def had issues but was able to manage it. A lot of respect earned.

[@dekruf]

Take a shot everytime Hal adjusts his hat

[@Keyato]

lmaooo i was just thinking this

[@reptile5167]

bro first thing i notice lol

[@PurrkourCat]

Mr Fridge!

[@WarnDaBrothers]

Right?!?! Dude acts like it's his first time in a hat 🤣😆

[@AntaryMW2]

Insanity mode

[@teamluxk274]

poor reps just taking shots for no reason

[@ctieco3549]

He catching strays 🤣

[@lawlietriver8869]

Not really man/lady. Hal is just sharing his experience. He made it clear that he digs them as bros and all that. The passion was just never on Hal's level. That was obvious even for a casual as myself. Hal is always on grinding. Reps not so much, at all. So the shots are not for "no reason." And Hal even accepts that because Reps was always showing up when it counted. If he had that Hal level passion the dude would be an unstoppable machine, lets be real about that.

[@rexington6737]

@@lawlietriver8869 man/lady lmao

[@renzbay123]

If TSM still wins ALGS is Reps the GOAT?

[@rexington6737]

@@renzbay123 yes

[@shaunmiller442]

A lot of what Hal said here is the struggle of being an IGL. You only get the credit when you win and every other time you’re framed as the bad guy for having to call people out while you’re simultaneously expected to guide them to victory. It’s a lot of responsibility and it’s why he wanted to be a Fragger and not IGL anymore.

[@ixxac9814]

You can igl without being a dick I believe

[@jrolla1858]

When Hal said "I love being Honest" I knew shit got real

[@slylockfox85]

People can say what they want about Hal but he usually said how he felt. Evan strikes me as the fake "nice guy" that does that kind of weasel stuff that he ended up doing. It would be different if Evan said all of this to Hal's face before saying it in public but he didn't. I don't understand people who wait until it's too late to air their grievances.

[@rixtalinc6109]

@@slylockfox85 i wondering thought why hal not just kick evan outta the team,, i already said so many times in zipp clip if evan aint worth it...

[@gokuization]

@@rixtalinc6109 Hal basically said that he had hopes on Evan and Reps. If they had the passion like Hal himself, they would be unstoppable. It appeared that Hal gave them too many chances and it didn't change much, so things changed. Hal eventually wanted to switch to another roster and he did. Now they just have to learn that they are not compatible with each other and have to move on. I simpified the whole drama into simple sentences. Bruh

[@solomonbacon8893]

this hurts to see the bois like this….

[@AntaryMW2]

nothing is permanent

[@ggarr91]

They’re all looking at it so hyper fixated on one thing It wasn’t just Hal… Evan didn’t want to play the game anymore & Raven was in his eyes “falling off” and after every game Hal was yelling at him or reps…. Crazy how Raven overreacting for 10 min to a 45 second clip sparked the boys going at it

[@stephenterrill8427]

Can’t say Evan’s right for saying what he’s said, but of Hal’s four TSM teammates, Snipe’s the only one who could truly handle him. He’s an incredibly hard person to play with long term.

[@0maxk_]

Snipe ain’t gonna let some kid say anything to him lol

[@youngrootv]

Snipe has been in worse eras of esports. He’s been in the game since Halo 3, ain’t nothing he can’t deal with lol

[@mortifiied3776]

you mean reps right? wtf are you even talking about?

[@GKXxBreezyxX]

Snipe and Hal worked the best together 😂 just insults and smiles and vibes

[@althepal883]

Snipe was also the worst player in TSMs roster

[@yashawal]

Honestly what Evan had to do is yell back whenever he thought Hal was wrong or overreacting when they were playing together

[@SugarHillGoGetBack]

hal wants to win, saw his value and worth and didn’t want to waste it by depending on teammates who got comfortable being comfortable ( shoutout dezign ). it feels like this was the best option too, verhulst and reps keep their jobs and he gets a bigger check and better chance at winning, shoutout to da falcons🦆

[@Syrptoh]

we got an eclipse 2 months and the whole game of apex flipped around

[@sppl623]

are you stupid or?

[@Visstnok]

Evan: The moon is bright. Let's channel her feminine energy.

[@jadarrientatum3751]

Hopefully they figure this out. Nobody wants to see them like this even if they are on different teams. just play apex and be friends lol. it's not worth losing friends and beefing over especially when yall are champs together

[@xythiera7255]

Val started that so he is the won haveing problems .

[@SugarHillGoGetBack]

@@xythiera7255 who the fuck is val

[@SugarHillGoGetBack]

@@xythiera7255 holy fuck your spelling sucks

[@jadarrientatum3751]

@@xythiera7255 doesn’t matter who started it

[@SheldonMLee]

All this just happened and they are all still competing, I highly doubt it affects their long-term relationship. Honestly its probably good some of those got to the public, it had to be annoying having to act like everything is perfectly fine. that's how resentment starts to build in the first place.

[@andis9076]

The only person can handle Hal is Reps. The rest simply can't. I foresee he gonna struggle to keep Zero and Gen together once they start loosing.

[@deki5616]

Nah zero and hal have the same mentality so it's going to be fine mah dude

[@onlyonered3242]

​@@deki5616💯 plus doesnt have to carry Reps heavy butt anymore 😂

[@rajuparla4863]

This is true if he is still IGL

[@zbaitl]

Personally I've seen a huge personality shift in hal. He's so much more composed and is still working on it. I can see them making that a problem of the past for sure

[@JohnJohn-bz1lq]

Bro, you guys are taking this the wrong way zero and Hal have the same mental this will actually strengthen the team that’s why gen plays like a demon and will eventually be better than zero Hal was exhausted from constantly worrying about Jordan and helping out Evan It just made him not want to play with them anymore, Jordan has been on a downhill for a very long time since snipe left

[@notben7]

1.) I think Raven is being a baby. What Evan said about him wasn’t bad at all. 2.) I do feel bad for Hal. Even though he could be a dick sometimes with his raging, I’m sure it’s hard to hear one of your close friends say that it was “miserable” to play with you. I get Hal is passionate and whatever, but it seems like he could’ve done a lot more to reign in the insults when talking to Reps and Evan. 3.) All around, I hope they’re able to work things out, offscreen or on

[@xythiera7255]

They did talk about it of screen Val needed to talk about it on screen . Raven is not a baby about it his reputation hangs on it and how other teams look at you makes or breaks you getting work in the industrie . Val never had any problem with Hal when they were winning only when Hal left he magicly swings at Hal thats a insane dick move .

[@0maxk_]

@@xythiera7255who tf is Val wtf are u even saying

[@julioperez2627]

for you 1. point. I dont think it even matter if he is being a “baby” or not. the point is that if they agreed to not talk about it and make it public then dont talk about it. they were all to blame, ggs and move on. 2. agree. I dont care how much somebody rages it doesnt justify calling people the things they say to THEIR teammates and friends. one of the reasons i dont fuck with Dezing. where im from some of those words are fighting words. 3. agree.

[@JohnJohn-bz1lq]

What the fuck are you talking about? Evan basically said that Raven fell off because he wasn’t going hard that’s disrespectful Hal even agreed with him how are you as a coach supposed to fail when people are constantly telling you, they are good and that things will change, but it doesn’t that’s like you’re my personal trainer and you’re telling me to lose a certain amount of weight each month with a set plan, you’ve given me but instead of losing weight, I’m gaining weight but I’m paying you lots of money you’re going to stop caring what I do

[@Croagge]

You can't tell somebody how they can or can't feel about what someone says about them.

[@user-ek6rl5ht5v]

Get your popcorn here. TeaTime

[@buffalobill7595]

Hal mentality is the key for success in any thing you do in life

[@sfxs9090]

except keeping good relationships

[@gabeitches87]

His mentality, sure, but not his attitude. Lol. Speaking to somebody in real life the way he sometimes does when something doesn't go exactly his way on this video game would get your teeth punched in.

[@maxpower789z]

I'm no Hal fan, but he's completely right when he says only some people will understand. Apex scene is choc full of overly sensitive fans who, simply because an approach to competition wouldn't work for them personally, tend to project their own idea of competitiveness and teamwork as superior in general. You don't have to like him, but his results speak volumes. Same with zer0

[@SlapDashR]

Reps a real one for that comment in his chat though. He actually gets it

[@HachimaruuTV]

take a drink every time Hal take his hat off and puts it back on. See if you can make it the whole video. Bet you cant.

[@anglerholic]

Anything against Hal is "doing it just for views." Hal has such a lazy, cowardly mind its stunning.

[@TheEnigma271]

Id much rather deal with hals yelling and winning then dezigns yelling and losing 😂

[@leedelemere5811]

😂

[@ripper_blade64]

The mack shit is true

[@evo4gplus]

EA's most positive player btw

[@rayakojuice]

reps is the embodiment of being professional. i've said this before and i'll say it again... the apex competitive scene is super immature. feels like high school drama. maybe it's cuz the game's esports is still in its infancy. i've been watching CS esports for almost 8 years now and nothing like this goes down, publicly at least. these guys need PR teams.

[@siapaajaboleh84]

you should know how hal feel as an IGL and when they are playing poorly he is the IGL , the burden is on him guys and other reason hal always playing to win and try so fckin hard to grinding, but have a teammate who not try as hard as hal and just want enjoy the game , its hard bro, maybe it will be different if hal not the IGL, he will be more calm like he is now with zero

[@n00bism0ke5]

Okay Hal we get it, Red Bull 🧢.

[@twerp4307]

can we get a hal takes of hat and puts it back on for no reason counter

[@banaatti]

13:10 and it's crazy how big the gap between them and the rest is in terms of mindset

[@Lokixfps]

Hal’s chat was just riling him up more lol.

[@drumbum9963]

Is Raven the Doc Rivers of Apex?

[@andycortez9316]

I think the amount of followers hal has plays a role in why hal grinds more than verhulst and reps. Of course anyone will milk the content apex content as much as they can when you got a ton of people watching you. Reps and verhulst do not have that kind of viewership. Why would they need to grind for 8 hours playing rank everyday with hal when they wont gain anything from it? If it was scrims that would be a different story but during scrims, they were always there. That is why I don't blame reps and verhulst for being "bronze players"

[@DurrellDT_]

Totally agree.

[@ethandaniel8123]

Hal took his hat on and off about 400 times.

[@jonathonrice4834]

I have a buddy whos almost exactly like hal almost down to the T and sometimes it makes him a hard person to play with. He super competive and wants to win but cant take criticism without taking it as an insult. You arent always right and sometimes you have to aknowlege that. At the same time nobody is perfect and screw ups happen even to pros. Its all about finding someone to match your playstyle and aggressiveness while also playing it smart.

[@oneounceslugAPEX]

Don't overlook the condescending BS he had to go through

[@b7shoota]

Fake beef

[@RootyTootTootin]

15:34

[@julioperez2627]

take a shot every time he touches his cap

[@KalexVII]

blacked out 3 minutes in

[@bobbyfischer7329]

1 game of hospital

[@karnizor4051]

Did this man just compare himself to Michael Jordan 😂

[@anim3z4u]

In the mentally sense of wanting to win. They both wanted to win! Like he said, it was two different mentallys. Evan and Reps wanted to have fun while Hal wanted to win.

[@ripp123m]

Just dont verbal abuse ppl for not doing what you want them to do. Leadership dont belittle or tear ppl down !

[@joeltaylor67]

You cant blame either of these guys hals passion for the game is unmatched and maybe Evan and Jordan just needed a breath of fresh air which is hal being gone

[@itzmaash]

Truth is best igls in the game shit on their teamates...so...

[@iotafps5761]

Bro joined the Man City of apex

[@manforgotten]

Hal is probably the most toxic pro player and it's pretty obvious. Here you can just tell by his body language he's just pulling whatever he can out of his ass to try and defend himself. Hal is a poor leader. A leader's job isn't only to make his team win, it's to inspire them to perform better. Hal blaming their poor performance just highlights his inability to lead.

[@eamonnw]

11:08 11:30

[@sxfrr]

I think they're roleplaying as kendrick and drake tbh

[@manpreetsahi9221]

Hals hat "You are a victim"

[@theoparayre8763]

bro basically said "i don't know what else i have to win to get you to understand me" CEO shit fr

[@Tonzibonzj]

Can someone resume to me? I m sorry ahha

[@Kalagni1000]

Hal and Reps basically Fire and Ice. Hall will burn, fire up the the team to get better and Reps will cool it down to strengthen it. That's why it sad to see them split apart.

[@angryclown7643]

I am bronze what he say fuck me for ?

[@kashura38]

holy hell can we be done with this already lmfao

[@CARTUNE.]

A lot of people forget that Evan doesn't nearly have the same history as Jordan does with Hal. Evan was the pick up after Snipe left for Halo. I also said Evan seemed to be slipping after their first win together, like he would always die first, get called out on a bad play and his only response was a soft, "Yeah, my bad." Now as all these receipts come out with performances makes a lot of sense. He just wasn't feeling the grind anymore but wouldn't admit it to the team.

[@althepal883]

I don’t think verhulst is doing it for views. He doesn’t strike me as that type of guy. But I guess we don’t know them personally

[@NovusInc]

If you watch Verhulst's latest stream, he said He purely joined TSM for the viewership. I didn't believe what I heard but when he said that I realised he was just doing it for views. He said something like "I only joined TSM because of the viewership".

[@alexlee4708]

Hal is basically Kobe... the dude just wants to win above everything else. He eats, breathes, sleeps, APEX. No one plays more than him and that's not debateable. To achieve his goals of winning, he will forge his teammates in a volcano if he has to and it works, he has the results to show for it. Unfortunately that also makes him a tough person to play with over an extended period of time. Not everyone is built to handle this kind of fire and Mac and Evan and to a lesser extent Jordan are proof of that. This happened a ton with Kobe's teammates too. Even Shaq admits that if he had the fire Kobe had, they'd probably have won 10 chips.

[@achange999]

Kobe lmao 🤣 kobe stayed on his team. This kid hal is more like that little trol in 300 movie that bent his knee. Hal is a beta

[@AlexanderWebster_]

@@achange999I guarantee you have never been great at anything your entire life. Your mom told you, you were "special", and you have settled for mediocrity ever since.

[@MuchTrilla]

@@achange999 using your brain is free. Kobe asked to be traded and was going to be but the Lakers then BUILT AROUND HIM. So is Kobe a beta for asking to be traded or are you just dumb? I need an answer

[@JFrmDaAK]

@@achange999are you delusional hal carried tsm throughout the whole span of apex 🤣🤣

[@jorgeserrano4401]

You are delusional. Never compare this boy to the legendary Kobe

[@jarrettwarren1034]

when it's everybody then it's more than likely you!!!

[@keek1337]

funny to hear Verlhurst basically blame Hal for him and reps being lazy

[@4wp3s92]

remember when someone said "they are like brothers" hahaha

[@Lethia277]

Red Bull I get it Hal I’ll buy some 😂 I love the boys but Hal is right.

[@alpang6161]

The one thing Hal doesn't understand is the difference between "sunshine and Daisy's" vs having a good team environment. Its always pretty clear everything centered around Hal hence his nickname the CEO but with the wrong people it, it can really boil over. Evan just wasnt that person so overtime it probably grinded him down and he's not a confrontational person. I feel like Raven and Hal didn't really foster a good environment for people to speak up about personal issues like this thus Evan's ranting online instead of in person. Its tough, and probably not the right move but it goes both ways

[@roguethemachine3928]

raven had hal cock from the mouth to the asshole. the guy was not for the team and always took hal side

[@kogzy4010]

I dont think you even watched the video because they said they talked about it in person before this while they were still in the team together

[@alpang6161]

@@kogzy4010 I did watch and Hal legit said Evan talked about how everything was all good or was clear about it. Meanwhile Evan's video Hal's talking about is him saying nonstop how much it sucked to play with Hal. If Evan is going to stream to talk shit and even to Reps, it's clear he's not good at confront Hal about it. Hal and Raven are strong abelists to a relatively toxic team environment so it seems pretty clear Evan wasn't comfortable confront Hal explicitly about it. He was probably wish washy about it at best or devalued his actual feelings to the team to cause less friction. I ain't saying what Evan did was good but Hal and Raven didn't help. Evan even said at the beginning Raven was a really good mediator at the beginning and reigning in Hal but overtime stopped. We all saw snippets of this happen to over the last few months in their scrims

[@Packedburrito]

Been saying this shit the whole time. Mfs tried to tell me I was wrong. Mfs are waaaayyyyyy too soft. They will be fearful of real life. I feel sorry for them

[@twerp4307]

hal needs pacifier to keep his tears from pouring out

[@MilkoAritonoski]

Hal talks a lot and he has the proof to back it up. However, it's not like you cannot win without shitting on your teammates all the time. Plenty of examples out there of great leaders, MVP players in many other competitive sports. Jordan was the GOAT but he wasn't the only one. Being inspirational and a true leader isn't always about sunshine and rainbows. You can be pushy, you can motivate your teammates and give them a great time without constantly harassing them. I really hope Hal is right on his money because if they get wrecked the next LAN that shit is gonna go back to haunt him.

[@neos.4587]

Yeah because Kobe and LeBron are not toxic teammates and not difficult to play with at all right? Tom Brady was also very nice to you and said "no worries bro you will catch it next time" after you fumbled a 50 yard pass, right? Christiano Ronaldo is also known to be very nice in the locker room. You dont see a pattern? All of them are grinding and toxic. 2 things Verhulst and Reps are not. They both dont grind enough and you expect Hal to be nice? If anything TSM needs to win or people will say they fell off and can't do it without Hal. One has a new team and the other 2 need to prove they dont need Hal.

[@jpatty]

they didnt like his competitive nature. his competitive side is why he is as good as he is... hal is playing to be the best, ver is playing for a cheque

[@mart182003]

Watch out, nerd fight 😂😂😂

[@ForeverMirinBrah]

bro evan can knock hal in one punch ezpz but they are friends

[@Ryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

These guys live together, why can’t they have a conversion in person instead of communicating via twitch clips. How are they being so immature. I hope this is planned drama for content lmao. Otherwise this is just sad

[@KalexVII]

They did. Evan just wanted to leak.

[@cb7636]

Hal could win every tournaments, that would still make it a pyrrhic victory. I mean dude's lost Mac and now Evan. Everybody wants to win, but not everybody is ok to be yelled at. If you lose 2 teammates in the exact same way, what makes you think you are not part of the problem? You being competitive is a thing, but at what cost...

[@Valyrh.]

i mean id be pretty upset too if we get a coach and he starts acting to much like a want to be boss with your igl. its such wierd behavious and i didnt tihnk much about it but the way Revan responds hes got a big ego like he wants all control.

[@EliotUchiha]

Bro Hal can always talk shit but not take shit Evan is speaking how he felt on the team he never said Hal sucks he just said it sucked playing with him and let's not act like we didn't know they really didn't like each other and Hal said Evan is cringe for farming views with this statement and that's cringe that he thinks that fk Hal can't take shit but always talks shit narcissist at it's finest 👏🏽👏🏽

[@CODShowcase]

I mean you don’t go on a podcast and gossip bad things about your ex team and not expect backlash, also farming views by uploading a video on your channel talking more shit playing victim

[@KalexVII]

Have you never learnt how to use proper grammar? commas, are pretty useful.

[@bodresz]

At the end, You will all see, everyone up their level was just a blatant cheater. I will not be surprised, after what happened in Apex Legends in 2023 March. For those who does not remember, more then half of the great, big streamers was banned for hacking.

[@xDarkCrusader]

Verhaulst needs to be more worried about winning with his new roster idk if they win anything without Hal sad but true he will always be the guy that "got carried by hal"

[@andycortez9316]

Apparently verhulst's previous team was doing better than tsm around the time verhulst was recruited into tsm. Verhulst even said he joined for financial purposes not to be in a winning team so this is not entirely true.

[@xDarkCrusader]

@@andycortez9316 sure thing bud lets just watch apex and see how it goes for both teams :D

[@iiZAPPx]

HAL SPITTIN

[@simply1087]

Funny thing is verhulst lives with hal🤣

[@nibhanraheem]

Don't think Evan did it for the view though

[@neos.4587]

Really? So he met Hal the same day and there was no problem. Now that Evan is putting out more content with better thumbnails, he felt he needed to say something....You dont see a pattern?

[@nibhanraheem]

@@neos.4587 you make a fair point

[@andrewoneil9876]

Dudes a Narc 🎉

[@unitynow6043]

They get tired of hal because no one wants to play with someone that is mostly negative and rages like a child . Its not his will to win its mostly due to the fact that there is a high chance he raged at games growing up and no one corrected that behavior .

[@panaeliss8205]

He is a kid. thats all! You picked him - teach him, encourage him. You gave him an algs championship and that kid talks his mouth.

[@realghostofdreams]

haven't seen the original Evan brouhaha because people still riding Hal's nuts even youtube

[@RolandB514]

Evan need to grow up but hal lead like we do on the football field if you cant handle it move around

[@AntaryMW2]

facts, its a rough sport

[@basketball23242324]

Get Hal’s nuts out ur mouth

[@TheSaraphic]

They are there to win not have fun. I am with Hal. 😊

[@yadnitsua5260]

What’s up with the touching of the hat incessantly. Very odd.

[@Pholoxo]

It’s normal when someone is stressed out or venting. People tend to fidget things around under circumstances like this.

[@KalexVII]

Normal human behaviour. Including the excessive mouse clicking.

[@bibumbibest3680]

stop the crap Hal !

[@Saltytomatoe]

Hal basically admitting he left because they lost at lan :P

[@TheSaraphic]

That's not what he said at all.

[@Saltytomatoe]

​@TheSaraphic the first thing he complains about is them not listening to him... what are you talking about 🤡

[@TheSaraphic]

@Saltytomatoe And said those critical conversations had happened as a team, before the LAN. He has been telling them he didn't want IGL if they ignore his calls and when he would call them out they got their feelings hurt. I don't see how that is a knee jerk reaction but rather a trend over time and Hal finally found a team with a mindset that's a better fit for him.

[@bagzy868]

Hal click spamming is giving "this is gonna be a hard talk" vibes. Equivalent to leg shaking when anxious. Wish this wasn't happening to the homeboys:(

[@KalexVII]

He clicks when he is frustrated, not anxious.

[@rRozu]

Hal doesnt understand that even the small things he says comes across as very abrasive and Evan seems like a guy who can only take so much. I hope this is just a miscommunication but their personalities were bound to clash. But to go as far as saying Evan is doing this for views is a bit strange. Nice juicy drama for the scene tho.

[@jacobsalcido5891]

Evans soft

[@KalexVII]

''go as far''... Hal literally said that everything Evan said was already spoken about as a team. Why is there any other reason to bring it up? Hal didn't say anything wrong, he just agreed with Raven. Evan should've known better coming into the prestigious TSM after Mac and Snipe and especially should've talked to Raven once he joined if he had a problem with Hal's criticism.

[@BoogalouJenkins]

I really don’t care. I liked learning from TSM and how they actually won championships. They actually strived and turned heads while doing it. Watching FALCONS get easy ass wins is just boring to me. Everybody has their own perspective as a pro streamer tho. Everybody wanna act like it’s all good. Everybody wanna act like they got the most passion. Apex is just getting boring seeing it all about NA this NA that. This is why reject won. Be humble.

[@HertLife]

A team like this will raise the level of competition in the long run.

[@DAxGOBLIN]

not gonna lie he went bipolar asf😂😂

[@AlexanderWebster_]

I've lost a ton of respect for Verhulst. He started the drama and just keeps escalating it. Maybe for views, maybe to vent. Either way, it's EXTREMELY immature. Like Hal said, he was cool to join the top streamer and two time ALGS champ for money, but when it got hard he just got lazy and expected Hal to be ok with it? Nah. I wanted the best for Evan. But fuck him now. Hope TSM comes last in ALGS and Jordan gets another teammate.

[@colinsmith3164]

To bring this to public is small. We all know hal is toxic. just keep working on being better and stop having excuses

[@gammartageon76]

Who is mac

[@m4n30n4]

Albralelie

[@gammartageon76]

@@m4n30n4 thank you

[@eastoak84]

I think everyone knows hal would carry them 2 so what’s the big deal lol they lacked passion simple as that

[@unusualtaste]

his teamates get tired of Hal because Hal’s main focus is to win and he will tell you when you did a shit job and not sugar coat it! they dont have the same passion, dont put in the same insane ammount of hours playing the game and they dont listen or do a lot of things Hal tells them as he IGLs, i’ve even thought that for a good ammount of pro games and then this comes up and i think i was right. if a viewer realises this and feels bad for the IGL i cant even imagine how frustrated he feels and how much we wants to rage or be angry, especially when we are talking about professional games where a lot of money is the prize.

[@mick5662]

People who don't understand Hal have some growing up to do lol

[@blakg3n96]

Exactly people today need to get out of their damn feelings. Failing to realize that’s what’s holding them back.

[@KalexVII]

@@godpleasegimmehottomboygf Wow we got mr softie over here

[@Valarizator]

exactly . People whining about Hal are 12 years old. Deep inside Hal is very good person, very pasionate. And i know he is true friend. This is not type of guy like Dezign.

[@KalexVII]

@@Valarizator Bunch of soft people jumped on the hate train years ago because it was 'cool' to hate him and be apart of the bigger group. If you use logic they will downvote and disagree with every point you make just because it's Hal. He has always been a great guy and has matured much over the past 2 years yet they'll keep treating him like he's trash talking every single match when they die. It's not even trash talk, it's passion spilling over at the highest moment in the game. Bunch of nobody's get mad at Hal yet complain about their silver teammates and call them horrible with their mic muted.

[@Theturthwill]

Verhulst and reps are Mac 😂

[@icyalan]

Damn this pro players are worse then the reality show celebrities

[@zbaitl]

I should stop commenting before watching it all this is embarassing. I agree with hal and raven. No opinion on how they act I dont live or work with them. Weird that "nice" is the mertic people go after hal for imo. Okay now I feel slightly less stupid para social. Apex is sick

[@orbitals5281]

Good points

[@SolidTemplar]

Evan is just trolling and farming views. He knows that people like drama.

[@nelsonchank]

evan respond to this sht already, people have to watch both side then talk sht,thanks

[@yokaihorizon2931]

Bro said he made the move for the money. Just seems like he’s starting shit.