iLife W450 Robot Mop First Look and Testing

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This is a first look at the iLIFE W450, an updated version of the W400 "Shinebot" that adds a new brush design, app control and camera navigation.0
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[@3_languages_1_gamer]

1:13 you opening your box with such a big knife was the most stylish thing i've seen on youtube! thanks for the review :D

[@Jose_Pointero]

I was already impressed with the older model and this one seems like quite an improvement. I'm sure the app will evolve and features will be improved. Congrats on the sponsorship.

[@MrRoombato]

I hope so. Too many manufacturers just abandon their products. iLife seems like a good company and I hope they continue to support their app. There are a bunch of robots using that same app so hopefully we will see regular updates.

[@theattorney6072]

@@MrRoombato hello, so did the app evolve and improve features ? If so whats New ?

[@MrRoombato]

@@theattorney6072 I don't know, I haven't used that robot in a while.

[@theattorney6072]

@@MrRoombato Nothing has changed in the app. Ilife seem to abandon their product also as others.

[@MrRoombato]

@@theattorney6072 Yeah, it's a shame.

[@spastroboy]

Subscribed. Can't wait to see results on dried stuck on stains that kids make

[@jeanniegilbert6253]

Thank you for the video! I had the 400s. I sent it back. I spent more time babysitting it and couldn't get it to clean one room completely. We have similar thresholds/transitions from hardwood to tile. It would go over one way and then get stuck. I will get the 450. I tried 3 robot mops. This one for sure got the floor cleaner hands down! I just couldn't deal with the dumb version. I am hoping that they make this one smarter over time. I agree with the mapping. I do wish it could dock itself. I also wish they could figure out a way to deal with the transitions. Thanks again! PS: We have 4 dogs & live on the rainy side of Washington state. I also loathe housecleaning...so many more enjoyable ways to spend my time.

[@MrRoombato]

You sound like the west coast version of me! Though I only have two dogs, I have enough other animals to make up the difference.

[@theattorney6072]

Look at the SmartMi A1.

[@arttulinnanmaki6346]

Tbh I didn't even know about Shinebots' existence before watching your videos. Got a W400 last week and super happy with it!

[@MrRoombato]

I’m glad you like it. Not really seeing much about the W400 on KZbin is what inspired me to start this channel.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

My 400s is due soon. I'm pretty darn excited. The apps don't excite me. Maybe when they improve it by making it flatter, so it can get under more furniture, I'll be enthused about an upgrade. I'm picking my robot vac now, and will probably get a 2/1 to get under the couch and under the clawfoot tub upstairs (where our cat litter is).

[@theattorney6072]

Hi, robot still working ? Are you still Happy with it ? Thx

[@vickicutie2753]

I do hope they will update the product as i really like this method cleaning, seems it cleanse better too

[@MrRoombato]

I hope they update it also. It has a lot of potential.

[@ha231]

If you get an IR blaster you can use your phone as the remote. RM4 for instance just connects to your router and can do power over ethernet so no extra plug needed. Then you connect your phone to the app and you press each button and it'll simulate them in app. I keep a remote drawer and use my phone as a remote. Don't have this W400/450 but you've convinced me. I'll wait for a sale.

[@MrRoombato]

Thanks for the suggestion! Yeah, definitely wait for a sale. For 350 I'd rather have the M6.

[@jacksonmin2058]

Hey, question on this model, can you lock it into your local network and still use the app? Like I prefer to not allow objects with cameras phone home, but I don't know how locally it runs. If you can't I might just do the w400.

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

Thanks for the video.. Do you still recommend the W450?, I was recommended the Yeedi vac 2 pro as a very good "mopping" robot. Also, how the W450 deals with carpets, do i need to remove every time ?

[@MrRoombato]

The W450 doesn't do anything on carpets, it can't climb onto them and if it somehow does, it will just make it wet. No, I don't recommend them. If you want something that mops and vacuums, get a Dreame W10.

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

@@MrRoombato thank you so much.

[@jijisuka2708]

I am waiting for my w450. Get it on sale for myr750 which about 178 usd. Ilife should make more of this robot. The concept is good, same as carpet/floor cleaner

[@MrRoombato]

iLife should do a lot of things. They are innovators, but they need to follow through. Hopefully they'll get it together. They are doing things no one else is doing, but they're kinda a fire and forget company.

[@theattorney6072]

Did you receive it ? How is it working for you ?

[@bryanheald7001]

Now I may be wrong about this but I’m 95% sure I’m correct. With the feature showing it’s position in real-time being able to do it with the W450 and not the roombas actually has nothing to do with Vslam rather than the gyroscope. I have a ton of robot vacuums with all different navigation methods and one that maps like this one doesn’t have lidar or vslam it’s gyroscope navigated. I wish iRobot would integrate that into their systems it wouldn’t be hard for them I’m sure. Actually would love them to switch to lidar. It’s beyond me why they haven’t, even though they’ve done a lot with vslam.

[@MrRoombato]

You may be right, but I'm pretty sure the Roombas have gyroscopes. Without them, their navigation would be completely worthless. Take the i3, for example. It HAS to have a gyroscope, or else how would it have the slightest idea where it is?

[@lauracavanaugh5610]

Does the w450 vacuum as well? Do you need to vacuum before washing?

[@MrRoombato]

Well, it's not designed to, and you don't want it to. It will suck smaller debris and pet hair into its water tank if you don't vacuum first, but you don't want that, since it's a pain to clean. So to answer your question, this is a dedicated mopping robot and you want to sweep or vacuum the floor first before using it.

[@graceloh2734]

It would be great if they design a rotating cleaning cloth with self cleaning instead or add on spinning mop.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I don't see why it would need that. It's already the best mopping robot on the market.

[@graceloh2734]

@@saintejeannedarc9460 nothing is best, probably the best for you so far in the market. Things can always be better, that's call improvement. After reading some of the reviews fr users, I add up my earlier comment.

[@user-nv3zk3nc7w]

Nice review! I really wish they make both products with less height. So they could get under all my beds and drawers.

[@MrRoombato]

I don't think they can, not with the dual tank design. But think of it like this...you definitely need to vacuum under beds and such because dust gets there...but why do you need to mop there? You don't walk there or spill anything there. Unless of course you have a ferret...

[@user-nv3zk3nc7w]

@@MrRoombato Agreed. It would be difficult for their design. But if they can make it, it would open more buyers for them.

[@spastroboy]

Gonna try and import. Any chance you can get me the box dimensions so I can try calculate shipping. Haven't been able to find that info online for what ever reason

[@MrRoombato]

17"x17"x8.5" in freedom inches. You'll have to convert it to Euro-squiggles if you need those. :P

[@spastroboy]

@@MrRoombato cheers, but I'm Aussie. Inches will do fine

[@monicalavale]

Any one month review comment on iLife W450? Mine seems to have lost suction. For the amount of clean water I fill in, I would expect at least half of that to be collected in dirty water tank. Instead I see extremely wet floors.

[@MrRoombato]

Nothing new to add, it's still doing great. Have you checked yours for hair or other debris stuck in the water tank? They include some handy cleaning tools for getting it out of there. There is also a little orange sponge filter that needs to be cleaned.

[@theattorney6072]

Hello, how is your robot doing ? Did you sort out the suction issue ?

[@monicalavale]

@@theattorney6072 It happens when the robot runs on floor that has not been dry vacuumed. Even when I think the floor does not have enough dirt to be vacuumed, and run the W450, the small dirt is enough to clog it and the robot loses suction. Cleaning it is a mess. I am not using it anymore. Waste of money.

[@killuazenitsu]

One of the most important factors regarding the useability of any cleaning/mopping robot is the use of cleaning the robot after each use. E.g. emptying the dirty tank and cleaning the brush, etc. These were not covered in your review. Hope you can add them. Thanks.

[@MrRoombato]

I went over this in my W400 review (I think!) and it's exactly the same for this.

[@killuazenitsu]

@@MrRoombato Ok, thanks for the info. I'll go check it out.

[@BrandEver117]

If iLife committed to making better programming, this would easily be the best (and basically only fully cleaning) robot mop on the market

[@MrRoombato]

I would have agreed with that until I got to play with the latest generation mopping/vacuuming hybrids (e.g. Roborock S7/S8, etc.).

[@theattorney6072]

Smartmi A1 is now on the market.

[@MrRoombato]

Looks really cool! Wish they'd send me one.

[@theattorney6072]

@@MrRoombato They refused sending you one ?

[@MrRoombato]

@@theattorney6072 No, I haven't asked them. Usually companies contact me. So I guess they're not interested.

[@Zcahm]

would you pick the m6 or this for 500 sqft of tile. I don't care about babysiting it I just care about cleaning performence

[@MrRoombato]

Definitely the W450. But you want to make sure its movement speed is set as slow as possible in the app. That's how you get the best performance. However...it also depends on the complexity of the environment. The m6 will do better navigating around obstacles and still cleaning the whole space. The W450 is not a real navigating robot and has only the slightest clue about where it is in the room.

[@keith3761]

when is the full test?

[@MrRoombato]

I don't do "full tests" with mopping robots, I tackle messes as they come up. It's all good and fine to put various stuff on the floor like I used to and see how the robot does against that, but I don't find it interesting because, well, that stuff never happens to me in real life. I want to base my tests on the sorts of messes that I actually use my robots for. For vacuums, that's easy to replicate. For mops, not so much. Any ideas?

[@keith3761]

@@MrRoombato hmm you would probably have to have a few sheets/tiles like a square meter that you put different dried dirt/products on and keep the tiles to age for like a day or 2 to dry out. ketchup. mustard, mud with a water % mixture and let sit till it dried out. then test the robots on the surfaces against each other. how many passes how well it cleaned them etc. It would be nice to know what the optimal cleaning settings for the w450 are.

[@MrRoombato]

@@keith3761 That's the kind of stuff I have no interest in doing...too artificial. Plenty of other people do that stuff, and do it very well. I like to showcase real world messes with mopping robots. That's my thing. Also, I can already tell you what the best cleaning settings are with the W450. Standard water, fastest brush speed, slowest movement speed, 3x cleaning passes. That should pick up nearly everything, except stuff you'll need a steam mop for.

[@TheSleeplessMind]

Does it detect stairs ?

[@MrRoombato]

Yes, and quite well.

[@Doobie386]

Why only test mapping? Why not testing cleaning capability?

[@MrRoombato]

I have other videos where I do that. In particular, this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ_EiImZebx5brM

[@Doobie386]

@@MrRoombato ok thanks

[@DanCycles]

W400S for 180, W450 for 298. Do you think that the updates on the 450 worth the 118 dollars difference? 66% price difference

[@MrRoombato]

Honestly, no. The W450 is great, but so is the W400. With that much of a difference, I’d go with the 400.

[@DanCycles]

@@MrRoombato thank you!

[@MrRoombato]

@@DanCycles You're welcome! I hope you enjoy it.

[@DanCycles]

@@MrRoombato just received the w400S, and it came with the new W450 brush. But everything else was the same

[@MrRoombato]

@@DanCycles That brush seems to be more effective. I'm glad they're retrofitting the 400.

[@kabassa]

Is that camera real? I've read reports of people covering the camera with duct tape and it didn't change the robot's functioning at all. It wouldn't be a surprise to have a fake camera on certain Chinese products.

[@MrRoombato]

I don't know if it's real or not, but it doesn't seem to do very much.

[@monicalavale]

Oooo I am getting this one. I hope $350 investment lasts me at least 5 years.

[@alicad1]

After watching this video, I was Googling it to see other reviews and I see that there is a new model, a W455. I see it for sale on AliExpress. I've never heard of AliExpress and until this video I had never heard of ILife either so I don't know if AliExpress is a legitimate site with a real product. There were only two videos on KZbin and not in English. The only English I heard in one of the woman's videos was she did not recommend it. I didn't watch the whole unboxing video because it makes me crazy not to be able to understand what they're saying. And I don't like the whole unboxing thing. I just want to get the testing started. I almost bought the w450 based on your review but I may wait to see if you get the W455 to review. Please let us know if you think you may get the newer model if it's even real. I'll hold off on buying the W450. No pressure. :-) As an update--I don't see this newer model on ILife's website. It's very probably a fake.

[@MrRoombato]

I know that iLife is working on a true navigating/mapping version of the W450, but I don’t know if that’s the W455 or if that’s just some overseas version of the W450. I also don’t know when they will release it. Wish I could be more helpful.

[@graceloh2734]

I saw w455 too and it is in white silver colour I guess it is the same as 450 just colour different. Like L 100 in white & A10s in black. Just my guess.. looking at this brand & this 2 models also. Haven't decide though

[@Vivi-yk8rw]

You can regard it as W450 but with different color sell in different channel.

[@vivekme4985]

Though the technology behind the machines seems good but after usage over the 5 month period i can say that run time is not that high and there are recurring issues with the machine. Not worth the money and time.

[@MrRoombato]

At this point I have to agree.

[@MrBlueCreeper]

Would you use this robot or the Braava Jet M6? Oh yeah, you need 1,000 Subscribers and 4,000 watch hours to get ad monetization. Ad monetization is the only way you can make money on KZbin.

[@MrRoombato]

I know. I have 8,000 watch hours, just waiting for enough subscribers. My channel is only four or five months old so I think I'm doing okay, all things considered. I would use this robot. The M6 is nice but it has the same problem with room dividers, so for me at least, it also is not a true mapping/navigating robot. And there is a limit to how much it can clean before the scrubbing pad fills up. Ideally I'd have both. The W450 to clean, and the M6 to keep it clean until the dogs drag more mud in.

[@MrBlueCreeper]

@@MrRoombato Alright, thanks for letting me know. :)