Illegal killing of birds of prey in North Yorkshire

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Geemeff

Geemeff

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The illegal killing of birds of prey in North Yorkshire was featured on the BBC’s Crimewatch Roadshow 10th March 2020. Iplayer Screengrab, all credits and copyright BBC.
Well done Inspector Matt Hagen, Head of North Yorkshire Police’s Rural Crime Team for telling it how it is and acknowledging North Yorkshire as the biggest raptor persecution hotspot in the country and identifying Nidderdale as an area of particular concern.
Weblink: raptorpersecutionscotland.wor... : Regular readers of this blog will be only too aware of Nidderdale AONB’s reputation as a massive wildlife crime scene. We’ve blogged about it many, many times including the poisoning and shooting of red kites, hen harriers, buzzards, marsh harriers on Nidderdale grouse moors (as reported by the AONB partnership in September 2019). We’ve also seen how the local community is turning against the criminals in their midst which is hardly surprising when according to the Chair of the Nidderdale AONB these crimes are “starting to have a damaging effect on tourism businesses”.
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Sadly those in rural communities often don’t report the perpetrators of these crimes for a number of reasons.
It’s often very difficult to report “your neighbour” , knowing that you have to live in a small community together.
Whilst there is often suspicion, the persecution frequently takes place out of sight making direct evidence of the crime hard to prove- leading to a reluctance to report “mere suspicion”.
Some residents live in property rented from the estates which own the grouse moors, or are employed in some capacity by the estates……the Guardian newspaper wrote an interesting article on “rural bullying.”
The only way this will change is when the perpetrators of illegal raptor persecution are vilified and viewed in the same way as other criminals such as drug dealers and thieves.
Only once it becomes socially unacceptable to kill raptors, and the mindset of rural populations towards the perpetrators becomes hostile - will the police start to see a flow of information.
Hopefully by the Chair of the Nidderdale AONB claiming that these crimes are “starting to have a damaging effect on tourism businesses”, will there be the start of that mindset change.
It’s probably also really important that the police community support officers make a real effort to engage with the local community, especially youngsters. Children and teenagers don’t usually have the social constraints of their parents, so will often speak the truth.
If the youngsters in these communities are educated that raptor persecution is wrong- then hopefully in a few years time when they become adults - they won’t tolerate the “raptor criminal” within their community…which will make it very hard for the “bad guy” to hide behind a wall of silence?
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4George M
March 10, 2020 at 5:52 pm
Don’t forget how much hegemonic influence large landowners have over local politics and their appointees too. They ensure their views are well represented in enquiries too, often having a big say in the make up of committees. To sweeten the deal free fishing, free days shooting and cheap holiday cottages can all make up the package. Their political remit also extended to Parliament if one casts one’s mind back to the debate of DGM’s as a refresher..
Police Inspector Matt Hagen also said this:
“People out there in the community will know who is committing these offences and we just need that information. We need them to tell us, to make raptor persecution unacceptable“.
Having met Matt a few times and spoken at length about raptor persecution, he’s definitely one of the good guys, who, along with his colleague Sgt Stu Grainger, is leading what could be a formidable team in an area where it’s most needed.
If you have ANY information about raptor persecution in North Yorkshire, even if it’s just a suspicion, pass that info on to these guys and they will investigate.

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@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Жыл бұрын
Stop breeding them. Why are you breeding birds of prey when songbirds are declining?😡
@GeemeffGeemeff
@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын
Birds of prey have very little to do with the decline of songbirds which is mainly due to human activity like over-development taking away their habitat, and the use of pesticides. Birds of prey are not being bred - they are protected native wildlife, and this video clip is about their illegal killing by people connected to the shooting industry. Millions of non-native birds are bred every year (last year 2022 55 million!!) in order to be shot for 'fun' by people who pay a lot of money to do so. Gamekeepers on these estates shoot, snare and poison native birds of prey because they see them as a threat due to taking the occasional non-native gamebird. By the way, very few of the gamebirds shot for 'fun' are even eaten - they are too full of toxic lead shot so are dumped illegally in huge numbers, contaminating the countryside and endangering songbirds and birds of prey alike.
@GeemeffGeemeff
@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын
www.rspb.org.uk/globalassets/downloads/documents/birds-and-wildlife/gamebird-shooting-review/what-is-rear-and-released-gamebird-shooting.pdf
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Жыл бұрын
@@GeemeffGeemeff That is entirely wrong, there are entire species getting wiped out by medium sized birds of prey that primarily eat other birds. Stop trying to group raptors as one subspecies, you have very useful raptors such as many of large type species of hawks, Ospreys, Eagles, Owls that I agree must be protected but medium to small accipitors such as peregrine falcons, merlins and sparrow hawks are really harming songbird and shore bird populations.😡 Stop intentionally breeding them.
@GeemeffGeemeff
@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын
@@oh_k8 Most raptors are wild. The handful of raptors that are bred in the UK are not usually released, unless they are an endangered species via a captive breeding programme. Domestic cats account for more songbird deaths than sparrowhawks.
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Жыл бұрын
@@GeemeffGeemeff So because cats also kill songbirds, medium acciptors killing millions of songbirds annually doesn't matter?🙄
@nevillewalker6299
@nevillewalker6299 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone caught killing any raptor should receive a long prison sentence. That is from a true countryman who spends his pension saving red listed birds but also takes part in country sports.
@shakeybeatz
@shakeybeatz 2 жыл бұрын
So you save red listed birds and then blow them out of the sky?
@1CameronBird
@1CameronBird 3 жыл бұрын
That’s just sad man
@crus1n
@crus1n 2 жыл бұрын
Stricter sentencing, and no suspended sentences. Min 3 years.
@cjg28
@cjg28 2 жыл бұрын
Small fine isn’t much a deterrent!
@1CameronBird
@1CameronBird 3 жыл бұрын
How dare they
@raymondiveson2535
@raymondiveson2535 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I opened the gate to my wood in n.w. durham after nine months overseas I new I had a problem and I new what the problem was. Three rabbits ran off, over the years I had only seen an odd one in the wood, within the first one hundred meter I counted five grey squirrels which I had never seen in the wood before. I walked to an area of low trees where the raptors normally sound the alarm when they see me but all was quiet as a pair of wood pigeon glided over the area which was a bad sign. Where were the raptors? a tawny owl always nests in a hollow tree on the other side of the stream that I would check, as I crossed the stream I saw a stoat run from a mallard's nest, all the eggs had been eaten and again I had never seen a stoat in the wood before. On arriving at the hollow tree there was no need to climb it to check on the owl as there was a cobweb over the hole. The following day I found a dead Kestrel.
@shakeybeatz
@shakeybeatz 2 жыл бұрын
I know how you felt. 😢
@paulcorbin7495
@paulcorbin7495 2 жыл бұрын
Time the guilty pay
@TERRYKOPITE1
@TERRYKOPITE1 2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone want to shoot an Owl what are they doing that makes them being hunted
@gavinreid2741
@gavinreid2741 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about shooting owls but they are tied down and used to attract larger birds of prey such as buzzards.
@shakeybeatz
@shakeybeatz 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavinreid2741 They tie the owls down?
@gavinreid2741
@gavinreid2741 2 жыл бұрын
@@shakeybeatz yes. Around a leg.
@shakeybeatz
@shakeybeatz 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavinreid2741 Unbelievable 😡
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Жыл бұрын
@finnigan Youre outraged about people using owls as bait but not outraged that the Kite is going to eat them alive?🙄
@meapantz1983
@meapantz1983 3 жыл бұрын
Truth
@mbarker1958
@mbarker1958 Жыл бұрын
It really astounds me, the gamekeepers preside over the husbandry of over 55 million game birds per year (RSPB numbers), most of which are buried after being shot, so therefore they are incentivised to protect their gamebirds by killing raptors. The debate about fox hunting is to me inconsequential here, foxes have become an urban pest, buzzards, falcons and kites have not. There is something seriously wrong with this country and the attitude to wild life.
@kevinturner5857
@kevinturner5857 Жыл бұрын
Sadly my friend our friends the foxes r gettin less & less due to relentlessly bein controlled , foxes r beneficial to controlling rabbits , rats crows etc etc etc , sadly olde fashioned thinking & outdated beliefs hav indoctrinated a lot of people ....they never mention the "good" that foxes do .....
@user-gi3xw5yc5u
@user-gi3xw5yc5u 3 ай бұрын
Always remember Chief Constables wine and dine with Big Estates owners.
@christhirkill1470
@christhirkill1470 2 жыл бұрын
There becoming a nuisance a cull should be allowed sparrow hawks and peregrin esp
@goldie990
@goldie990 2 жыл бұрын
how about culling idiots like you ?
@integrito3323
@integrito3323 2 жыл бұрын
And I am yet to understand why this is being done! Guess it is par for the course! Because they can! History of the kind of behaviour with both animals and other human beings! That is what is sad!
@kenwalker5464
@kenwalker5464 2 жыл бұрын
Two sides to every story. 🤔
@iambarks2814
@iambarks2814 2 жыл бұрын
So one side is that raptors are being killed which is against the law, what is the other side?
@dalejacobson6363
@dalejacobson6363 2 жыл бұрын
Ok Ken do you have testimony from rodants or are you selling post traps
@kenwalker5464
@kenwalker5464 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalejacobson6363 no I'm not into killing.
@enrobsorussell
@enrobsorussell 2 жыл бұрын
@@iambarks2814 Yes they are....but Red Kites & Buzzards are not `endangered`, they are quite common all around the UK. Fake news again,,,,from the home of fake news, the BBC. Harris Hawks are not even indigenous...they are from North America and any wild around the UK are definitely escaped falconers birds.....`endangered`? Do some research on birds of prey in the UK, Iam...then you will realise how utterly lying and pathetic the BBC are. That aside, I agree.....raptors should not be persecuted.
@enrobsorussell
@enrobsorussell 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalejacobson6363 `Rod(e)nt`. Aaaah...the virtue signalling screech of the lesser spotted lefty. Anyone not going along with the narrative and here comes the screech, the finger-pointing and the labelling. Dale....there are 2 sides to every story in freedom of speech UK. You don`t like it....China, Nth Korea & Venezuela are that way. Do some research into raptors without taking in the BBC left wing clap-trap....then you can make an informed decision using your own brain cells and you don`t listen to fake news anymore.
@nut2884
@nut2884 2 жыл бұрын
I love birds of prey why would people won’t to kill and trap them working with these birds 🦅 would be my dream
@hardlines2635
@hardlines2635 2 жыл бұрын
Why won’t people talk about the disaster caused by reintroducing the Red Kite, they have bred at an alarming rate, now when I’m out walking I don’t see any of the small wildlife I use to see.
@andreashessler838
@andreashessler838 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of small animal extinction are you blaming on the Red Kite? They eat mostly earthworms and carrion. Take a drive along the A34 near Oxford and Chilton sometime. You will see hundreds of them circling looking for roadkill.
@shakeybeatz
@shakeybeatz 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you talking about?
@shakeybeatz
@shakeybeatz 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know where you go walking mate but i see all the wildlife i used to see, that includes many magnificent red kites, conservation success story. You do realise red kites are mainly scavengers??
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Жыл бұрын
Agree, sparrowhawks and peregrine falcons are harming songbird numbers. But the RSPB wont talk about that because raptor prosecution is a big moneymaker for them.🤔
@GeemeffGeemeff
@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын
@@oh_k8 How do the RSPB make money from 'raptor prosecution'? It's a cost exercise rather than a revenue raiser. Mounting an investigation, gathering evidence and bringing a prosecution takes a lot of resources. But as the laws against raptor persecution are weak and feebly enforced, it's a good thing organisations like RSPB and Wild Justice do investigate wildlife crime because in many instances the police don't bother.
@1CameronBird
@1CameronBird 3 жыл бұрын
I love birds
@kenwalker5464
@kenwalker5464 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget raptors kill birds. Every time they have a meal. And of course when they are feeding young they are none stop killing machines. 🛑
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 Жыл бұрын
Them you really shouldn't be bother about birds that eat other birds alive.
@kevinturner5857
@kevinturner5857 Жыл бұрын
These Tory criminals mercilessly killing our wonderful variety of wildlife r dead from the neck up , I would call these people who do this murdering ignorant psychopaths , bored insensitive cowardly acts , they've lived so long amongst death n control that they r dead themselves ! 😥😢
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